Wentworth by-election live

Live coverage of the count for the Wentworth by-election.

Live publication of results, updated by the minute with full booth results and swings, can be found here. Commentary of the progress of the count follows below.

Thursday evening

The remarkable swing to Phelps on postals continues, with today’s batch favouring her 306-243. This means the progress of her two-party vote across the five batches has gone 36%, 40%, 45%, 52%, 55%. She also gained with the addition of pre-poll declaration votes, which favoured her 189-112. Her lead is now 38,757 to 36,974, or 1783 votes, which is probably more than the number of late arriving postals that constitute all that’s left to come. Phelps’ margin has ticked over from 1.1% to 1.2%, and looks sure to stay above 1%.

Wednesday evening

The dwindling daily addition of postals put a further nail in the coffin today, breaking 242-224 in favour of Kerryn Phelps. Her shares of the two-party vote across the four batches of postals that have been added to the count have been, consecutively, 36%, 40%, 45% and 52%. The provisional votes were also added to the count, and they were higher than usual in number and heavily favourable to Phelps, who received 246 to Sharma’s 175. Phelps’ leads is out from 1554 to 1643, with roughly 2000 postals and 250 declaration pre-poll votes to come.

Tuesday evening

The count continues to drift away from Dave Sharma, with today’s postals favouring him only 433-361, giving him 54.5% where he needs nearly three-quarters. Phelps’s current lead is 1554 votes, with maybe 3500 still to come.

Monday evening

Today’s counting consisted of finishing off the rechecking of ordinary votes. It appears 54 votes in the Paddington PPVC were reassigned from Sharma to Phelps; other than that, the effect was to cut 209 votes from Sharma’s total and 234 from Phelps’s. So evidently a lot of the action on rechecking has consisted of ruling informal votes that were initially admitted to the count. The upshot is that little has changed since yesterday, except that the window seems to have closed on a major anomaly being identified in rechecking, which was Sharma’s best hope. I had a fairly extensive look at the progress of the count in a paywalled article in Crikey today.

Sunday evening

Today’s events as they unfolded:

• Anxieties in the pro-Phelps/anti-Liberal camp that set in as the largest pre-poll voting centres recorded their votes late last night cranked up a notch in the morning as the first and biggest batch of postals were added to the count. These broke 3356-1858 in favour of Sharma (later revised to 3346-1851), his 64.4% share being fractionally more than he would likely need to rein in what remained of Phelps’s lead. Not long after, Antony Green wrote on Twitter: “No (Phelps) is not home. The difference between on the day voting and voting in advance is wider than I’ve ever seen at an election. In conversation with very senior party people today, they have the same opinion.”

• Around 10:30am or so, Sharma got a further small boost when the two Special Hospital Team booths were added to the total, collectively breaking his way by 266-54.

• After that though, the pendulum swung back. The AEC set to work on the routine recheck of the ordinary votes, starting with those booths where the preferences flows recorded yesterday appeared to be anomalous, as was keenly observed by Kevin Bonham. This confirmed that Phelps had indeed been short-changed in the Bondi Beach and Bellevue Hill booths – because, according to Antony Green, the preferences from primary votes for the Liberal candidate had been entered the wrong way around. As a result, Phelps’ 2132-1714 lead in Bondi Beach blew out to 2427-1330, and Sharma’s purported 1305-985 lead in Bellevue Hill turned out to be only 1152-1119. About half the booths have had their votes rechecked to this point, the net effect of the others being neutral.

• Then a second batch of postals went 698-467 to Sharma, or 59.9% to 40.1% – less than he would have needed even before the rechecking raised the bar.

The main votes yet to be counted are late-arriving postals – I see no reason to doubt my earlier judgement that the final number of postals will be very close to the 9392 that were cast in 2016, since the number of applications received was almost identical. That leaves maybe 3000 postals outstanding, along with provisionals and pre-poll declaration votes, of which a high-end estimate would be about 500. This leaves Sharma with about 3500 votes outstanding with which to close a gap of 1616, meaning he will need about 73%.

That’s not going to happen, so it will take the emergence of another error in what remains of the rechecking to make a Sharma victory plausible. Precedents do exist, such as the decisive 1000 votes that showed up for Cathy McGowan as she grappled with Sophie Mirabella in Indi in 2013. But if the remainder of the count proceeds normally, Sharma only seems likely to reel his existing deficit in by around 700 votes, giving Phelps a winning margin of around 900 votes, or 0.6%.

Sunday morning

To cut the following long story short: this isn’t over.

Those who were still paying attention at the close of last night’s action were thrown into a spin when Dave Sharma did remarkably well out of the pre-poll voting centres, which these days account for many thousands of votes and do not report their results into well into the evening. In particular, the 6431 votes of the Rose Bay PPVC broke 4473-1958, which slashed Phelps’ lead from 4.2% to 1.9% – creating just the slightest opportunity for Sharma to pull a rabbit out of the hat on postals.

In the last of my updates in the section below, I calculated that Sharma would need 70% of postals to close the gap, but it seems this was an overestimate. The number of postal votes issued at this by-election has been almost identical to that in 2016 (12860 compared with 12796), so it’s a very safe bet the number of formal postal votes will be around the same, namely 9329. We can also expect 500 or so provisional and pre-poll declaration votes, but it’s the postal votes that are most interesting because they skew conservative. Malcolm Turnbull did around 9.5% better with postals in 2016 as compared with ordinary votes, on both the primary and two-party preferred vote.

If that bears out this time, Sharma can expect to reduce his present deficit of 2590 votes by around 1400. However, it’s not impossible that he will do significantly better than that. Given the trend of polling and the general course of political events over the past week or two, it could be surmised he would do relatively well on votes that were cast earlier in the process. Kevin Bonham points out that the Mayo by-election is particularly auspicious for the Liberals in that Rebekha Sharkie gained a 3.5% two-party swing on ordinary votes against the Liberals, but there was actually a 5.1% swing in the Liberals’ favour on postals. No doubt this was unusual, but it does demonstrate that it would not be without precedent for postals to weigh towards Sharma heavily enough to sneak him over the line.

However, some objections have been noted to the results as currently published:

• The Rose Bay PPVC is an extreme outlier in having a primary vote swing of only 1.9% against the Liberals, where in every other booth it was in double digits (not counting the 16 votes cast through the blind or low vision telephone voting service), and this is not reflected in any unusual movement in the Labor primary vote. However, this very likely reflects the fact that the Rose Bay PPVC wasn’t in use at the 2016 election, and the “historic” vote totals provided by the AEC to facilitate booth-matched swing calculations (including those featured in my own results facility) were well off the mark. Specifically, the “historic” totals only account for 1459 formal votes, of which 983 were credited to the Liberals, compared with the 6431 that actually appear to have been cast. As such, I see no reason not to think Sharma was indeed being undersold in early assessments of the count, as it was not appreciated how much of the harbourside vote was locked up in the Rose Bay PPVC, waiting to be unleashed at the very end of the night.

• Probably more substantively, Kevin Bonham has identified curiously weak preference flows for Phelps at Bondi Beach and Bellevue Hill. These would be consistent with 450 votes that properly belong to Phelps having been wrongly placed in Sharma’s pile. If the imminent rechecking of votes indeed proves this to be so, the hill would look just that little bit too high for Sharma to claim. But as Bonham also notes, there could just as easily be other inconsistencies awaiting discovery that could tip the balance the other way.

Election night

Midnight. The last pre-poll voting centres tightened things up quite a lot – not quite enough for Sharma, but there won’t be much in it in the end. Phelps ends the night with a 1.9% lead, which would leave Sharma needing a more-than-plausible 70% or so of postals.

9.55pm. The Paddington pre-poll booth has reported on the primary vote, and it’s a better result for Sharma than the Paddington election day booths, suggesting Phelps’ current 4.4% lead on 2CP will be wound back a little by the end of the night.

9.37pm. If anyone’s still paying attention, all the election day polling booths have reported their 2CP counts now. But we’re still yet to see either primary or 2CP numbers from the four pre-poll voting centres, which should be with us later this evening.

9.02pm. None of the four pre-poll voting centres have reported yet. Other than that, there are three booths yet to report their two-candidate preferred results.

8.36pm. With 28 booths in out of 43, Phelps’ lead is 55-45, which is exactly what the Liberal internal polling in The Australian this week purported to show. Sharma’s primary vote of 39.9% is also what today’s report of Liberal internal polling in the Daily Telegraph said it would be.

8.12pm. Phelps’ lead after preferences looks to have moderated a bit, with 16 booths out of 43 counted, but just eyeballing the booths that are in on the primary but not the two-candidate count, they are largely from relatively weak areas for the Liberals like Bondi, Clovelly and Paddington. In any case, Phelps’ 54.4% obviously leaves her home and hosed. She is giving her victory speech as I type.

7.43pm. Two-candidate preferred results are coming in at a clip, with eight of them now in, and Phelps now leads 56.2-43.8. Labor’s Tim Murray has edged ahead of the Greens on the primary vote, for what it’s worth. That he wasn’t doing so earlier was another symptom of the first booths being extremely wealthy harbourside ones.

7.35pm. Now we’ve got two-party results from Bondi North and Darlinghurst East, and I need no longer fret that my results display has the Liberals in front.

7.30pm. No doubt having sixteen candidates slows up the two-candidate count.

7.28pm. Twelve booths in on the primary vote – not much point in obsessing over them individually now. Still waiting for some more two-candidate results so my display stops showing the Liberals in front.

7.22pm. Bronte and Edgelcliff added on the primary vote. Still waiting on a fourth two-party result to push Phelps ahead on two-candidate preferred, which is where she will clearly end up.

7.18pm. Antony Green calls it.

7.17pm. Bondi Beach East two-party result almost pushes Phelps ahead on the raw two-party count, which is still dominated by two strong Liberal harbourside booths.

7.16pm. Wealthy Bellevue Hill South pushes Sharma ahead on the primary vote; inner city Darlinghurst East fails to reverse it. But the Liberal primary vote is clearly still too low.

7.14pm. Bondi North in, and the pattern is highly consistent: primary vote swings against the Liberals are between 19.9% to 27.1%. That leaves them below 40% of the primary vote, which is fatal for them particularly given the strength of Phelps’ primary vote.

7.10pm. Vaucluse is in on two-party, and because the two booths to have reported on two-party are super-rich Vaucluse and Double Bay East, the raw two-party vote is deceptively favourable for Sharma. So far though, Phelps is getting 65% of preferences, and she’s actually ahead on the primary vote with five booths counted (the latest being Kings Cross Central, a leftish booth where the Liberals are down 20.2% to 25.5%).

7.09pm. Worth noting Phelps’ thumping primary vote, three to four times higher than Labor or the Greens.

7.06pm. Bondi Beach East is the Liberals’ least bad result so far in terms of the primary vote swing, but it’s also the booth where they had the least to lose. The bigger deal is that Phelps has trounced them on the primary vote, 41.4% to 29.7%.

7.00pm. First preference count in from Double Bay East: Phelps gets over 80% of them, 65 to 15, and only loses the booth 52-48. Liberals down 25.7% on primary vote in Darlinghurst East. Early days, but not looking good for them.

6.53pm. If the swing holds, Sharma ends up on 38.8% of the primary vote, which is less than he wants. But booths in are super-wealthy and not broadly representative.

6.51pm. Vaucluse a bit better for the Libs than Double Bay East – down 22.9% rather than 27.1%, Phelps on 20.0% rather than 29.5%.

6.46pm. Details of Australia Institute exit poll here.

6.42pm. So far so good for my live reporting — my swings are the same as the ABC’s.

6.40pm. We have a result: harbourside booth of Double Bay East. Liberal vote down 27.1% to 47.7%; Phelps on 29.5%. Fairly small booth with 346 votes, but an encouraging result for Phelps I’d have thought.

6.15pm. Which is a bit disappointing from my perspective, as it means I can’t give my results projections a workout, assuming as they did a Liberal-versus-Labor count in which two-party swings could be calculated. From the perspective of letting us know who’s likely to win though, it’s very likely the correct choice.

6pm. Polls have closed, and the first mystery of the night is resolved: the AEC’s notional two party count will be between Dave Sharma and Kerryn Phelps. My live results facility will be up shortly.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. confessions and meher baba, if you’re still around, I had these thoughts regarding your discussion around voting early.

    I think there are two principles involved. The first is that voting should be easy. This encompasses the idea that everyone votes. The second is that voting should be informed. This encompasses the idea that there is a period for campaigning. The two are not entirely aligned in our current voting system. I haven’t thought this through, but what if you can choose to vote early but have the option of changing your mind until the polls close. I can think of a clumsy way you might accomodate this, sealed nested envelopes to preserve the principle of anonymous voting. Like wills the most recent vote you cast counts.

    ???

  2. Kevjohnno @ #938 Sunday, October 21st, 2018 – 1:55 pm

    Antony Green tweeted.
    After much digging around, I’ve worked out the following. The AEC is currently re-counting the Bondi Beach, Bellevue Hill and Vaucluse polling places. At 3pm they will begin a count of and additional 1,200 postal votes. The result will be clearer or closer by tonight.

    Does this mean they expect to be finished the recounts by 3pm?

  3. Late Riser: “I think there are two principles involved. The first is that voting should be easy. This encompasses the idea that everyone votes. The second is that voting should be informed. This encompasses the idea that there is a period for campaigning. The two are not entirely aligned in our current voting system. I haven’t thought this through, but what if you can choose to vote early but have the option of changing your mind until the polls close. I can think of a clumsy way you might accomodate this, sealed nested envelopes to preserve the principle of anonymous voting. Like wills the most recent vote you cast counts.”

    It could possibly work, but I still struggle to understand why PBers are so concerned about minimising the inconvenience of voters.

    I’m completely in favour of pre-polling, postal or absentee voting being made readily available to people who are physically incapacitated through age or disability; have definite plans or requirements to be out of their electorate on election day; work on election day; have religious obligations that prevent them from doing anything on Saturday; or who have other compelling reasons for not getting to the booth on the day. But I simply don’t understand why it is important that those arrangements should also be made available to people who simply have a preference for voting earlier.

    Casting a vote is a legal obligation for citizens. It’s their own personal responsibility, not the AEC’s, to make sure that they actually do so. If they simply can’t be stuffed getting out of bed or dragging themselves away from their double decaf latte and smashed avo on sourdough to vote on election day, then I reckon they can miss out altogether and be made to pay the fine.

  4. Late Riser:

    I just don’t see a valid reason to change what happens now. The mythical ‘what if’ scenarios meher was running through aren’t sufficient justification in my view to force people to vote only on election day unless they can demonstrate an inability to do so. We should be making it easier for people to cast their vote, not harder.

  5. It would be interesting to know the international postal votes outstanding versus domestic.
    At the last Federal Election I was overseas (Georgia – the country not the US state) and the postal vote took 3 weeks to reach me – which it did about an hour before polls closed.
    It was completed promptly and mailed the next day, but goodness knows if it got back in 13 days.

    I wonder if postal votes take very long to get back from New York or Singapore. Now, who might have been voting from there?? Will their votes be crucial?

  6. BREAKING: After Bellevue recount Phelps extends her lead by 281 votes.

    @drkerrynphelps gained 126 votes and @DaveSharma lost 155.

    Phelps’ lead is approx 1165.

    Looks like it could be enough to offset the rest of the postals @SkyNewsAust

  7. Cud Chewer, he means the votes from 2016 that swings are calculated on the basis of. Apparently the 2016 votes are notional, not actual votes. And he rejects some of their notions and substitutes his own based on different assumptions about who would have voted where in 2016, if the booths were at the 2018 locations.

  8. Cud

    Antony’s model works on comparing votes in booths with historic results – baselines – from the same booth. This enables a more accurate projection of overall trends.

    I think he is commenting that the baseline numbers provided by the AEC for some of the pre-polling PPVCs in Wentworth have their numbers derived from elsewhere.

  9. Felix I don’t get it. We are counting actual 2018 votes now?

    Or is the AEC using dummy figures for preference allocation?

  10. meher baba, confessions. I’ve lived in the USA so I lean towards voting being easy. I’ve seen its opposite. For instance I’ve heard the ‘couldn’t be bothered’ argument put forward as a reason to make it harder to vote. (Only the fully committed should vote.) I’m drawn to the idea of supporting all the principles as much as possible, and adjusting our processes to that end.

  11. ar: “Third principle – Having everyone vote on the same day results in long lines, and I hate standing in line.”

    Ah, young people today. All they want is instant gratification…

  12. Cud

    AEC numbers are actual counts for the current election, but the swing is calculated on previous election. So where previous election booth did not exist eg Rose Bay PPVC, they have ‘invented’ the base number.

    The base and therefore swing(s) are used to project the result.

    The issue at hand is why did the projections from last night, including Antony Green’s, missed the true Liberal primary?

  13. If the AEC accepts postal votes up to 13 days after an election, what is to stop people filling them out now and posting them? They may not be bothered, but now they know it is a close run thing, they may act.

  14. At 1165 vote lead with maybe 4000 postals left, they need to break 65-35 to Sharma to have a hope. Unlikely when you see what the late postals did in Herbert in 2016. Plus we await the Bondi recount.

  15. C@tmomma is correct that Bandt or at least his voters are largely those I term conservatives and socially mainstream, perhaps a little avant garde. It would be helpful for the success of the new establishment party if it contained both someone like Bishop and someone like Bandt to show it isn’t simply a sanitised new left or right like the Canadian Conservatives but a truly national, establishment, mainstream party. (After the spill, I thought Bishop should be its leader, but now I think it should be an ex-independent.)

    Some previous new establishment parties have often contained significant Labor members, although not Menzies’. I think the circumstances surrounding them was different though, so I don’t think they’re precedents.

    (Of course, the real future might be an independent LNP, which I think would seriously narrow the ground, since the resulting Liberals would be more palatable. Then it would just be generational turnover to take us out of the current mess.)

  16. Cud Chewer to get the booth swing compared to the last election you need the historical count. Where there is a new booth or changed booths the AEC reallocates the historical votes from the old booths to new booths so that an indication can be made on changes from the last election. It is the reallocation that seem to have been a confusing effort in this case.

    This in no way effects the count in the current election but makes it harder to predict the result based on booth swings.

  17. Kerryn Phelps tweets…

    Holding our breath for the AEC count. This is a white knuckle ride.
    Whatever the outcome, I am enormously proud of the work of my volunteers and campaign team.
    #WentworthVotes

  18. For people who have to work for a living, especially on Saturdays, voting time is a real issue. Perhaps when I am retired I will not care if all get to exercise their voting rights. I hope I do not grow that cynical.

  19. “BREAKING: After Bellevue recount Phelps extends her lead by 281 votes.
    @drkerrynphelps gained 126 votes and @DaveSharma lost 155.”

    That seems like a large change for a booth with 2290 formal votes. I’m curious as to what would have caused that.

  20. work to rule assume they are 2 candidate preferred … preferences are allocated wrongly

    Bondi beach should be similar

  21. GG: “A fascinating insight in to the views of the RWNJs on Sky. cannot be unseen!
    https://twitter.com/SkyNewsAust/status/1053780660769308672

    The look on Ross Cameron’s face is priceless.

    Phillip Adams summed it up well recently on LNL, when he said something like “I find the views of Andrew Bolt, Chris Kenny and Alan Jones quite abhorrent, but I can see what they’re on about. However, I simply don’t get the point of Rowan Dean.”

  22. WTR: “That seems like a large change for a booth with 2290 formal votes. I’m curious as to what would have caused that.”

    A returning officer accidentally putting a pile of votes preferencing Phelps into a pile preferencing Sharma. It’s quite a common occurrence during counts.

  23. “Does this mean our own Kevin Bonham has saved Western Civilisation (Australian Branch)?”

    They’d have picked up their error at some point in the next few days.

  24. Work to rule

    On the night, in a hurry, it is possible to count votes then put a bundle in the wrong group. Scrutineers should pick it up, but it can happen. Simple human error.

  25. work to rule assume they are 2 candidate preferred … preferences are allocated wrongly

    Bondi beach should be similar

    Yeah this. Some prefs got put in the wrong pile. Same thing almost certainly happened at Bondi. If so Phelps will be very close to safe.

  26. There was a bit of discussion earlier of pre-poll voting, vis-a-vis campaign timing etc

    In Wentworth there were 18,713 pre-poll votes
    Last day, Friday – 20%
    Last 5 days (inc Friday) – 57%
    Last 8 days – 76%

    Bye the bye, I can’t see on the AEC website where the 212 (non-Wentworth) PRE-POLL votes have been counted; perhaps yet to come??

  27. Cud Chewer @ #993 Sunday, October 21st, 2018 – 4:12 pm

    More reasons why the counting (note I didn’t say voting) should be done electronically

    As a backup to manual scrutineering and counting, fine. With an automatic re-scrutiny/re-count if the two methods differ by more than (say) 100 votes, or if the two methods give different outcomes.

  28. Laura Jayes tweets..

    UPDATE: 6th lot of postal votes counting underway – 1200 ballots early indiction 60% 1st preferences are going to @DaveSharma @SkyNewsAust

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