This fortnight’s Newspoll result is 54-46 in favour of Labor, after the Scott Morrison era began with successive results of 56-44. The primary votes are Coalition 36% (up two), Labor 39% (down three), Greens 10% (steady) and One Nation 6% (steady). Movement also to the Coalition’s advantage on personal rating: Scott Morrison is up three on approval to 44% and steady on disapproval at 39%, while Bill Shorten is respectively down five to 32% and up three to 54%, and Morrison’s lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 42-36 to 45-32.
UPDATE: Further findings from the poll record 24% of respondents saying Scott Morrison has made them more likely to vote Coalition, 31% less likely and 36% no influence; and 46% nominating Morrison as the more “authentic” of the two leaders, compared with 31% for Shorten. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1675.
billie @ #785 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 4:11 pm
Not really true. Satellite internet is available just about anywhere. Sure, the satellites capacity is limited (so there will eventually be issues once too many people connect) and the service is slow compared to other internet options – but it is easily fast enough for streaming audio or downloading podcasts.
a r
wait till 5g comes through and you can get 10gbs. I wonder will they switch fttn to 5g hubs then?
Scrott has a real Fanboi in the Tudge
https://outline.com/WruPem
poroti says: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 4:34 pm
phoenixRED
Saw a doco/recreation re Raoul Nordling /Choltitz and the infamous Hitler phone call asking “Is Paris burning ? ” . Uncle Otto had a bit part in it and was described as ‘extremely cultured’ . His effort involved palming of nasty business re political prisoners to someone else.
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I have read many different views on Dietrich von Choltitz and his thoughts on war crimes/Jews and saving/ wrecking Paris .
General von Choltitz is quoted as saying in October 1944
We all share the guilt. We went along with everything, and we half-took the Nazis seriously instead of saying “to hell with you and your stupid nonsense”. I misled my soldiers into believing this rubbish. I feel utterly ashamed of myself. Perhaps we bear even more guilt than these uneducated animals. (An apparent reference to Hitler and his supporting Nazi Party members.)
http://www.historynet.com/dietrich-von-choltitz-saved-of-paris-from-destruction-during-world-war-ii.htm
New Slogan Government
John Smythe
@Johnsmythe26
31m31 minutes ago
Replying to @Qldaah @JRWeaver55
Responsible spending….now THAT’S a good 2 word slogan
phoenixRED @ #780 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 4:06 pm
Hey, at least he spelled all the words correctly. Even ‘douche bag’, apparently.
He almost got the punctuation correct, too.
a r:
To an extent, I agree. We need a bit more bravery from our MPs when it comes to toeing the party line. But I think the US takes things too far in the other direction, to be point where it’s often a struggle for anything to get done.
As with all checks and balances, what is great when your own side is in power can be pretty shitty when the other side gets in, and vice versa. To use a flip-side to your argument, how much good legislation may not have been passed here without strict party solidarity? Imagine the nightmare the Gillard minority government would have been if Labor MPs had been crossing the floor whenever they felt the urge. And in the US, think about how much trouble Obama had passing healthcare legislation and especially gun control measures even when the Democrats controlled congress.
I think both sides could do with more of a happy medium. I’ve always been partial to a system here where MPs are allowed to cross the floor X amount of times per year or parliamentary term without repercussions. It lets them vote with their conscience and do as they feel best for their electorate and/or the country when need be, but also forces them to save that power for the times it really matters, and ensures party solidarity is still generally maintained most of the time.
25 years today since “The Winner is Sydney, Australia”.
Interesting report seeing Ros Kelly, John Fahey and Bruce Baird and a summary of the immediate financial impact with the Australian dollar at 65c US and Dow Jones around 3,700 points.
Nath,
They won’t switch to “5G hubs” because it may well end up being more expensive than FTTH.
5G isn’t a magic solution just like 4G wasn’t.
Look how badly under provisioned the the wireless NBN is right now, because it is expensive.
If you want to see how well a Party in Government operates without much discipline have a look at how the Tories are managing the Brexit negotiations.
God only knows what Abetz finds funny. I don’t think I’ve ever seen the man demonstrate anything to even hint he has a sense of humor.
phoenixRED
Ty for that quote.
Eric Abetz wants the new MD to end the “frolics masquerading as ‘comedy’”. I so want to see what an Eric Abetz-approved comedy show looks like.
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Erica IS a walking comedy!
What about a POTUS masquerading as black comedy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahfypyjVYX0
a r says: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 4:47 pm
phoenixRED @ #780 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 4:06 pm
Michael AvenattiVerified account @MichaelAvenatti
Meet @butchgroves, the Head of Upper School at The Oakridge School in Arlington, TX. I have never met him before or communicated with him but here is his message to me earlier tonight. The parents of Oakridge must be so proud to have this man teaching their sons and daughters.
Butch Groves
You are a fucking douche bag. You lying piece of shit
Hey, at least he spelled all the words correctly. Even ‘douch bag’, apparently.
He almost got the punctuation correct, too.
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Like him or hate him ( I happen to like him as he reminds me of a bulldog lawyer who won something important to me ) Michael Avenatti has a GREAT NUMBER following on twitter and I dare say that this Butch Groves will regret the day he decided to abuse Avenatti and Groves school will feel the sting of the Avenatti fan club backlash when they start school in Texas tomorrow …..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sizkR7Uy2zY, perhaps?
poroti says: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 4:54 pm
phoenixRED
Ty for that quote.
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I wonder Poroti, if someone will say a similar thing of Trump in future days ????? 🙂
phoenixRED
Nah.Electing Dubya the first time may have been a mistake but re-electing him showed the US electorate were ready for a Trump.
Another one for Abetz: https://youtu.be/3efqR_hEow4?t=24s
Its the system not the voters..
http://time.com/4354908/richard-dawkins-electoral-college/
Richard Dawkins is a biologist and author…..
If you ever had any doubts about how preposterously undemocratic the electoral college is, your doubts could surely not have survived the 2000 looney-tunes show in Florida. Florida had 25 electoral college seats up for grabs. The popular vote was a dead heat. It couldn’t have fitted more snugly within the statistical margin of error if it had tried. The total vote in Florida was about 6 million, and the largest estimate of victory for either George Bush or Al Gore put the margin at a paltry few hundred. Yet the rules said that all 25 Electoral College votes must go to one candidate or the other. The final decision was effectively made by the Supreme Court halting the recount but, given such an exactly tied dead heat, they might as well have tossed a coin.
poroti says: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:09 pm
phoenixRED
Nah.Electing Dubya the first time may have been a mistake but re-electing him showed the US electorate were ready for a Trump.
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Trump – like the saying – He is so dumb, blondes tell jokes about him.
A view on the Guthrie-Milne debacle:
https://meanjin.com.au/blog/michelle-guthrie-why-she-went/
AL
Yeah, yeah, just give me the serum!
poroti @ #818 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 5:09 pm
I’m hesitant to generalize based on Dubya. Because 9/11.
Although he did show why the electoral college needed reform. And now the U.S. is paying, again, for not having done any.
An interesting new insight on the Trump Trade War and its implications for Australia:
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/opinion/alan-kohler/donald-trumps-china-tariffs-are-really-aimed-at-us-companies/news-story/ac0a641489f165cccad9ae674aa1f384
Um, and why should Eric Abetz have the final say in what the ABC does or doesn’t do?
Political Parties will take an agenda to any election – and the public decide on the basis of that agenda (well, perhaps not, which is a problem).
But today is today and tomorrow is tomorrow, so there are swings and roundabouts needing to be explained to retain credibility (and surely such deviance is not the whim of one individual, but the result of deliberations and a vote)
In regards the ALP, as I understand, that agenda is formalized at National Conference (delayed because of the by-elections?), where positions are put and voted on.
Correct me if I am wrong, but given this opportunity and then given a vote as to policy, as an endorsed Candidate you adhere to that policy?
If you have fought the good fight on the floor, and lost on the vote the choice is not to stand as a candidate, surely?
Otherwise endorse the Party Policy.
BW:
That bit remains one my favorite Simpsons scenes ever.
One more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SyBBkcdmaoE
a r says: Monday, September 24, 2018 at 5:23 pm
poroti @ #818 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 5:09 pm
Nah.Electing Dubya the first time may have been a mistake but re-electing him showed the US electorate were ready for a Trump.
I’m hesitant to generalize based on Dubya. Because 9/11.
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Now watch this drive
Words uttered by President George W. Bush to the media (on a golf course) after announcing his serious stance on global terrorism. Brought to light from Michael Moore’s Fahrenheit 9/11
“I call upon all nations to do everything they can to stop these terrorist killers. Thank you. Now watch this drive.”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QcsVpHW7Ao
Poroti
Yes one of the things that annoys me about the trump haters is that they seem to have forgotton
GWB – elected twice
Sarah Palin
The panel of horrors that was the republican primary.
Face it Trump is a SYMPTOM of a country where democracy is in its death throes. What happens next is unknown but I do not think it will be pretty.
BW@4:51pm
Party discipline: What about party discipline of OZ Libs. There is a lot of talk of crossing the floor. But they won’t vote against their party when in power.
When MT was PM, IMO he should have introduced the NEG bill in HOR and see whether the malcontents had the guts to cross the floor. He chickened out and that is the end of his PMship. GC threatened quite a few times to cross the floor. But when push came to shove he did not go with his threat.
Shane Warne for PM.
https://twitter.com/ShaneWarne/status/1044121145132429312
The Drum tackling the Guthrie sacking. Worth watching, I think, unless you’re already so prejudiced against the ABC that you can’t take it.
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I sort of agree. But it was a peculiar discussion…. tip toeing past defamation suits, perhaps.
Ah, that Roman!
:large
I think this is the comment of the day wrt the Guthrie sacking:
Dan Ilić
@danilic
Mr. Squiggle should be the next ABC MD—he knows how to deal with a disgruntled board. #ABCspill
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Boerwar @ #835 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 5:48 pm
It’s a political hit!
Greensborough Growler @ #835 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 3:48 pm
Uh…what?
GG
Cutting through as usual.
C@tmomma @ #837 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 5:48 pm
Turn everything over and have Miss Patty deal with the detail?
From Herr Wiki:
“Deontology is an ethical theory that uses rules to distinguish right from wrong. Deontology is often associated with philosopher Immanuel Kant. Kant believed that ethical actions follow universal moral laws, such as “Don’t lie. Don’t steal. Don’t cheat.”
I dont know about that.
Sure, the political tummy is rumbling. But it rumbles both from the left and the right. The left rumblings (Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Stacey Abrams… even Sanders) are not as shiny to the media as Trumps political grotesqueness.
Trump is popular with Republicans but well behind in the polls (I think A rated pollsters are averaging around 38-52). This is a sign of troubled party. Not a dying democracy.
The US have been in trouble before. McCarthyism comes to mind. So does GWB. But they did recently elect a youngish left leaning black man. Twice.
Paddy Manning on the sacking:
https://www.themonthly.com.au/today/paddy-manning/2018/24/2018/1537765628/guthrie-gone?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=The%20Monthly%20Today%20-%20Monday%2024%20September%202018&utm_content=The%20Monthly%20Today%20-%20Monday%2024%20September%202018+CID_ec32f301c34575fb823370d6f68be0ca&utm_source=EDM&utm_term=READ%20ON
Jeebus Zoid! Warning please.
ScoMo, consider yourself warned!
https://twitter.com/i/status/1044105030150762497
SK
Who when push came to shove chose Wall St. over Main St. and was as enthusiastic as the usual US pres. when it came to bombing/invading/regime change .
Check out @FinancialReview’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/1044130564784062464?s=09
David Rowe very topical
Simon² Katich® @ #843 Monday, September 24th, 2018 – 5:52 pm
Would have done it a third time, too. If not for term limits.