The latest fortnightly poll from Essential Research has Labor’s lead at 52-48, up from 51-49 in the two previous polls. It also features Essential’s monthly leadership ratings, which reflect Newspoll’s in being bad news for the goverment, thought not in quite the same way. Where Newspoll had Malcolm Turnbull’s ratings tanking, Essential has him down only one point on approval, to 42%, and up two on disapproval, also to 42%. However, Essential records an improvement in the ratings of Bill Shorten, who is up three on approval to 34% and down three on disapproval to 44%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is 41-27, down from 42-25. Further questions relate to drought and climate change, freedom of speech and social media and the Nine takeover of Fairfax, which you can read about at The Guardian – or when Essential publishes its full report later today, which is also when we will get primary vote numbers.
UPDATE: Full results from Essential Research here. The primary votes are Coalition 39% (down two), Labor 37% (up one), Greens 10% (steady) and One Nation 6% (steady). The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1032.
Also, federal voting intention results have now emerged from the YouGov Galaxy poll of Queensland, which have two-party preferred at 50-50, compared with a 52-48 lead to the Coalition in the last such poll in May, and 54.1-45.9 at the election. The primary votes are Coalition 37% (40% in May, 43.2% at the election), Labor 34% (33% and 30.9%), One Nation 10% (10% and 5.5%) and Greens 9% (10% and 8.8%). This poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday last week, from a sample of 839.
Further results from the Newspoll: 55% would favour lifting restrictions on gas exploration if it would mean lower power prices, with 31% opposed; 37% said Malcolm Turnbull and the Coalition would be “best at maintaining Australia’s electricity supply and keeping power prices lower”, compared with 36% for Bill Shorten and Labor; and 63% said the government’s priority should be keeping energy prices down, compared with 26% for meeting greenhouse gas emissions targets and 8% for preventing blackouts.
Jackol
A regulation can be a disallowable instrument, each house has 15 days usually to flag its intent to disallow, disallowance requires a majority of 1. A tied vote means the regulation stands.
Conversely, legislation needs a majority of 1 to pass. So a tied vote means it fails.
When numbers are tight, like in the recent Senates, this 1 vote either way matters a lot.
Adelaide news break here (commercial channel)- shed fire, ute crash and dog takes a dump and is caught on camera….the fact we might have a new PM on Monday doesn’t rate a mention.
I was going to say a C-NT
But whatever floats ya boat.
No reports of Malcolm being beleaguered or embattled yet.
Everything you need to know about disallowable instruments
https://www.aph.gov.au/About_Parliament/Senate/Powers_practice_n_procedures/Brief_Guides_to_Senate_Procedure/No_19
Zoidlord
Now that was well done 🙂
Barney in Go Dau @ #2598 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:45 pm
A cartoonist?
Steve777 @ #2604 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:49 pm
Which is the test. This is just the local yokels door knocking late at night.
Ladbrokes currently: (BTW, the list includes Mike Baird!)
Next Liberal Leader – Australian Politics – Federal Information
Tony Abbott
3.5
Julie Bishop
3.5
Peter Dutton
4
Scott Morrison
8
Josh Frydenberg
11
Greg Hunt
13
Christian Porter
17
Kelly O’Dwyer
26
Christopher Pyne
29
Mike Baird
41
Sussan Ley
41
Paul Fletcher
51
Alan Tudge
51
Stuart Robert
51
Michael Keenan
51
Steven Ciobo
51
citizen @ #2609 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:52 pm
Try Angus!
“What starts with C, ends with T, and describes a person prepared to sell out future generations for short-term gain?”
A cheat? A communist? Clairvoyant?
http://www.yougowords.com/start-with-c/end-with-t
[‘Everything you need to know about disallowable instruments.’]
Thanks very much, sprocket: we had no idea re. disallowable instruments until we were advised thereof.
BK (Block)
Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 7:45 pm
Comment #2508
You have to say Turnbull is a man of principle.
BK (Block)
Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 7:45 pm
Comment #2508
You have to say Turnbull is a man of principle.
Quote Christopher Pyne for the rest of us dumb c@nts who can’t spell and know nothing.
Quote
A Coal-loving-protagonisT?
Passing this Legislation is Trunbull’s journey.
https://theconversation.com/turnbull-dumps-emissions-legislation-to-stop-rebels-crossing-the-floor-101754?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=twitterbutton
Steve777
I believe he current status is ‘Embuggered’ , that period between embattled and buggered.
Turnbull has effectively said to the electorate that he has been unable to persuade his party to take even modest steps towards emissions abatement; that the Liberal Party is the voice of denial and refusal.
They have indicted themselves as Trumpists and reactionaries.
They will pay the price.
Do you honestly think that these people give a single flying fuck what you think?
I think that the fact that Malcolm won’t even talk about emissions and climate says it all.
“What starts with C, ends with T, and describes a person prepared to sell out future generations for short-term gain?”
corrupt
sprocket_: I believe in practice tied numbers in the Senate results in the legislative instrument being disallowed, because if those in favour of the instrument do not have a 1 vote majority they cannot force the question of disallowance to be put. This means the motion lies unresolved, and after 15 sitting days the original instrument is deemed to be disallowed.
This is working as intended, because the idea is that the Government shouldn’t be able to push delegated legislation through that they couldn’t have gotten through the Parliament as regular legislation.
[‘They will pay the price.’]
Briefly, briefly, that they will.
The whole point of Neg was Turnbull didn’t have to talk about emissions or climate change. It was supposed to be dispatchability and cost.
Thats gone as well as expected.
And now for something completely different.
Poland was shockingly liberal during the 1400s
http://www.smashcompany.com/philosophy/poland-was-shockingly-liberal-in-the-1400s
Long, but surprisingly interesting I thought.
Exactly, there is no prise unfortunately.
boomy1 says:
Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:16 pm
Turnbull has effectively said to the electorate that he has been unable to persuade his party to take even modest steps towards emissions abatement; that the Liberal Party is the voice of denial and refusal.
They have indicted themselves as Trumpists and reactionaries.
They will pay the price.
Do you honestly think that these people give a single flying fuck what you think?
No-one cares what I think. My point is that voters care about these issues. The Liberals have declared, from top to toe, that they have nothing to propose except refusal and denial. Voters will exact their toll. The LNP are treating voters as if they are fools. This is the worst mistake a political party can make. They will be severely punished for it.
What a nice week Bill Shorten is having.
caf says:
Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:33 pm
And now for something completely different.
Poland was shockingly liberal during the 1400s
We owe a great deal to the Poles. They kept learning alive in Europe when it was very much out of favour in the theocracies to the west and south.
Old Mavis says:
Friday, August 17, 2018 at 10:30 pm
[‘They will pay the price.’]
Briefly, briefly, that they will.
🙂
ratsak
Has the jury come back yet with a verdict as to whether Lucien has been the unluckiest politician eva or Bill the luckiest bastard eva ?
These by CPG consensus being the only possible reasons for Lucien’s PMship impersonating..
ratsak
Bill has important questions to answer this weekend!
Can Collingwood beat Port Adelaide and confirm their finals spot?
Are they a realistic chance for the Premiership given all their injuries?
We are waiting for his answers.
“The Australian” is probably saying he should be replaced if he doesn’t respond.
poroti,
Shorten has questions to answer.
Bill will be known as the best cricketer in Australian history, judging by the number of tests he has been selected for.
Can’t disagree with that, Scott.
@Scottludlam
just hurry up and go out of business, you malignant trash-fire
poroti
Famous footage – more amazing is that some people were able to jump from the burning “Hindenberg” and get away before the burning airship fell on them.
How many Liberals are ready to jump? Some jumped from the Hindenberg too early and died, and many died unable to escape.
An allegory of the Coalition Government perhaps?
I do really like Yassmin.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/aug/17/why-is-the-far-right-dominated-by-men
Interesting
Paula Matthewson
Verified account @Drag0nista
5m5 minutes ago
Credlin moving the goalposts already – says its not about the target being in or out of the NEG. Now its about withdrawing from Paris.
caf 1033pm
That was very interesting. I got interested in Jan Hus from seeing a 600th commemoration of his execution in Prague in 2015 (and had never realised there was this revolutionary person 100 years before Luther). I have a few Polish relatives by marriage, and acquaintances – I may get them this.
Better still – maybe send a few copies to Poland’s current executive!
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/17/turnbull-loyalists-call-out-colleagues-for-hyperventilating-over-energy-policy
In part this refers to the belief that Dutton might have some appeal in WA. This is a delusion. For one thing, very few West Australians will have heard of Dutton. Those who have will mainly have a negative perception of him. WA is a highly multicultural electorate that has already shown it will reject a Liberal Party that sings from the ON song sheet.
caf @ #2624 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 10:33 pm
Absolutely fascinating. Thankyou.
“Is there a single word for a person prepared to sell out future generations for short term gain.”
The word is Isaac according to the great Leonard Cohen. It refers to someone who would sacrifice one generation on behalf of another.
This is as good as music gets IMHO.
https://youtu.be/-BsajNbOZXY
[‘Bill will be known as the best cricketer in Australian history, judging by the number of tests he has been selected for.’]
You’re sometimes a hard judge, Fulvio:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kyos-M48B8U
briefly
I have only worked in WA a few times, and obviously have little experience there, but I agree Dutton just doesn’t seem the sort of right-winger that the right-wing (South-West) West Australians I met would want. I got the impression more in the fashion of a business-type with big commitment to mining and development. More like Charles & Richard Court than Queensland quasi-One Nation anti-“foreigner” types.
I was scanning 9news a little while ago. I came across an article which explained that the reason the NEG has changed is so that Turnbull can keep being PM. (On my phone so I can’t link it.) My immediate reaction, which I think will be shared by many, is that Turnbull and the Libs are playing me for a fool.
Turnbull is an ex-PM walking and the LNP are exposed as useless. I already had this opinion of course, but tonight makes it stark. No single opposition MP or cross bench MP should align themselves with this mob and be painted with them.
RR….I think your observations are quite right…people associate WA and QLD. This is an error, as the 2017 election made very clear.
Post Script: Wayne must be demoralised.
Agreed Diogenes. A brilliant song by one of our finest.
briefly @ #2646 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:35 pm
I’ve lived in both Perth and Brisbane and agree. The two are quite different culturally, by the standard of differences between Australian states, from each other.
It’s pretty rare for a federal election to be won or lost in WA anyway.