The latest fortnightly poll from Essential Research has Labor’s lead at 52-48, up from 51-49 in the two previous polls. It also features Essential’s monthly leadership ratings, which reflect Newspoll’s in being bad news for the goverment, thought not in quite the same way. Where Newspoll had Malcolm Turnbull’s ratings tanking, Essential has him down only one point on approval, to 42%, and up two on disapproval, also to 42%. However, Essential records an improvement in the ratings of Bill Shorten, who is up three on approval to 34% and down three on disapproval to 44%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is 41-27, down from 42-25. Further questions relate to drought and climate change, freedom of speech and social media and the Nine takeover of Fairfax, which you can read about at The Guardian – or when Essential publishes its full report later today, which is also when we will get primary vote numbers.
UPDATE: Full results from Essential Research here. The primary votes are Coalition 39% (down two), Labor 37% (up one), Greens 10% (steady) and One Nation 6% (steady). The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1032.
Also, federal voting intention results have now emerged from the YouGov Galaxy poll of Queensland, which have two-party preferred at 50-50, compared with a 52-48 lead to the Coalition in the last such poll in May, and 54.1-45.9 at the election. The primary votes are Coalition 37% (40% in May, 43.2% at the election), Labor 34% (33% and 30.9%), One Nation 10% (10% and 5.5%) and Greens 9% (10% and 8.8%). This poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday last week, from a sample of 839.
Further results from the Newspoll: 55% would favour lifting restrictions on gas exploration if it would mean lower power prices, with 31% opposed; 37% said Malcolm Turnbull and the Coalition would be “best at maintaining Australia’s electricity supply and keeping power prices lower”, compared with 36% for Bill Shorten and Labor; and 63% said the government’s priority should be keeping energy prices down, compared with 26% for meeting greenhouse gas emissions targets and 8% for preventing blackouts.
Meanwhile in CPGland, the ALP needs to neutralise the debate and pass the NEG, as is, so they can avoid climate being an election issue.
Shorten will relish an outcome of him claiming the skewering of 2 PMs on his watch.
Is there a single word for a person prepared to sell out future generations for short term gain.
C%nt.
The Guardian tweets
Omarosa releases new tape of Trump campaign’s ‘hush money’ offer https://trib.al/o3Lfx2v
PM Turnbull has been bad enough.
PM Dutton does not bear thinking about.
GG
Yes. I am surprised. I did think it would fall when the states rejected the NEG. Stupid LNP couldn’t wait for the cover so they could use the old trick of blame Labor.
I bet Freydenberg is wishing he was still a Hungarian …
boomy1
“Is there a single word for a person prepared to sell out future generations for short term gain.”
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Capitalist?
Well, that too. Can’t say it too loud though I’ll get sacked.
Policy Speech of the Prime Minister (The Right Hon. R. G. Menzies), delivered at Canterbury, Victoria, on April 3, 1951.
“ Coal is the basic material, and its shortage is the cause of most of our material and power shortages. Last year the production of black coal was a record; but it was still woefully insufficient.
Yep. We still have a 1950s Policy.
http://parlinfo.aph.gov.au/parlInfo/download/library/partypol/1149979/upload_binary/1149979.pdf;fileType=application%2Fpdf#search=%22Energy%20policy%22
Is there a single word for a person prepared to sell out future generations for short term gain.
Turnbull
German has a word for every situation. Here is Lucien Aye’s word for the day..
Fremdschämen (Exterior shame)
For those of you who cringe in phantom pain when others make a fool of themselves, this is your word. It describes the feeling of shame when seeing someone else in an uncomfortable or embarrassing situation.
Apparently, Turnbull is disavowing Paris.
He’ll always have oblivion!
Puffy, The Magic Dragon. @ #2546 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 8:49 pm
Shouldn’t that be an empty suit? 🙂
empty suit
an important or wealthy man regarded as lacking substance, personality, or ability.
The Turnbull equivalent of Tony Abbott’s empty chair:
2019, the PM with the cabinet.
“Malcolm Turnbull – Downfall”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gEOwfMo38Os
Fulvio Sammut @ #2557 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 8:59 pm
Victor Orban is worse.
Yeah, c@t, but he’d have an excuse for handing in his resignation before he gets sacrificed.
I imagine Katharine of the Grauniad will be calling this a ‘Malcolm reset’ in tomorrow’s edition.
Anyway, it’s all Shorten’s fault.
Hargrave’s reference to the NEG: “Not Exactly Governing”.
It is hard to keep up so I may have missed it; have we had any reaction from the rwnjs to the revised NEG? I thought I saw something from Craig Kelly suggesting it might be “worse”?
Drove up to Newcastle today (300km return – family visit). Had ABC NewsRadio and ABC RN on while driving. Apart from hearing a few Aretha Franklin favourites, I heard Christopher Pyne officially deny that there is any challenge to Malcolm and it was reported that Matthias Cormann and Peter Dutton have also done so. Barnaby Joyce was interviewed at some length (why?). He bloviated incoherently but also seemed to deny it, but not ‘officially’ – he’s just a backbencher. He did say that maybe Malcolm should consider his position “in a couple of months”.
Now we just need Dutton to pledge undying support for Malcolm and we’ll know it’s definitely on.
Bolt saying JBish being lined up by Turnbull as next GG in return for her vote in a leadership contest.
Steve
Paul Bongiorno doing his best to keep leadership tensions circulating
Difficult to see how @TurnbullMalcolm changing his mind on legislating emission targets, rather leaving it to regulation is a capitulation to his rebels. That is what Labor was calling for.
JBishop is presumably lobbying to continue as deputy to whoever ousts Turnbull. She must have created some sort of record as the eternal deputy.
Denis Atkins tweets
Has @TurnbullMalcolm had his @MrKRudd moment dumping the last vestige of belief?
@PetraAu tweets
Here’s The Audio Of Peta Credlin Admitting The Last Seven Years Of Politics Is Based On Total Crap https://www.buzzfeed.com/markdistefano/whats-the-point-of-australian-politics?utm_term=.tsW5a87Vwp via @MarkDiStef
Diogenes @ #2551 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:17 pm
How close is Bolt to the inner thoughts of Turnbull.
This is a Menzies Forum scam that has one shot in the locker.
“Difficult to see how @TurnbullMalcolm changing his mind on legislating emission targets, rather leaving it to regulation is a capitulation to his rebels. That is what Labor was calling for.”
I was surprised at that. Of course the RWNJs don’t even want 26% cemented in. Maybe they’ll regulate it to zero if they get the chance, or a token amount like 5 or 10%.
Meanwhile, Labor doesn’t have to do anything. If asked, Labor just needs to say “You lot sort out what you want then give us a call and we’ll negotiate.”
TL;DR – whatever the Coalition comes up with should be treated as an ambit claim.
@wimaslurrie tweets
“Lucy dear, I gave up on human rights, I capitulated on penalty rates, I raised the white flag on Aboriginal justice, I let them rub my tummy on refugees, I wet my pants over broadband, and I became a figure of ridicule over Paris Agreement … what more do they want from me?” https://twitter.com/WilmaSlurrie/status/1030411807796559877/photo/1
guytaur,
It all depends what roadblocks Turnbull puts in place to ensure it is almost impossible to raise targets.
Remember, he is desperate to secure internal support. He will not make it easy for labor. So, I suggest Bongiorno needs to wait and see what Turnbull has folded on.
Four things appear obvious to me.
No Paris Agreement. No mention of emissions targets.
Full on intervention in the market to ” secure ” lower electricity prices irrespective of the consequences.
Complete backing away from any intention to legislate certainty going forward.
Billions for coal fired power stations.
Cheers to you.
And I am sure he can pass on that recommendation to PM Shorten when he’s deciding Cosgrove’s successor.
Re the GG – Peter Cosgrove’s term expires in March, two months before the likely election date. It should be put back 6 months.
Diogenes @ #2575 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 7:17 pm
If the fix is in to remove him as leader, will it matter how JBishop votes?
Wednesday next week could be a frenetic day in Canberra.
Doyley.
Your points are why I said Mr Bongiorno was doing his best to on leadership tensions. Or to use the vernacular. Stir the possum. 🙂
You people suck at this. Here’s how it’s done.
“What starts with C, ends with T, and describes a person prepared to sell out future generations for short-term gain?”
guytaur
A much more ‘truth telling’ portrait of Lucien.
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Who is wimaslurrie?
Confessions
No idea. It was Wilma Slurries. I include the name so people can check on twitter if they wish.
It was the content I thought worth sharing.
@William
Is swearing allowed? 😀
William Bowe @ #2564 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 9:33 pm
A carrot?
When the ministers arrive at the Lodge for dinner on Sunday night, it might pay to see which ones bring along interior designers and start measuring the drapes.
Fulvio, I bet he doesn’t!
There has been a bit of a discussion about legislation vs regulation.
For the most part, talking about regulations implemented as standard legislative instruments, the difference is political, not any substantive power difference with respect to parliament.
In either case the legislation/regulation can be defeated by a majority in either house.
Regulation is lighter weight, and easier to enact, in that the executive can propose it at any time and it will basically be in force immediately until (within the limited time window available) one of the chambers of parliament says otherwise.
And yes, it is politically easier in some cases if either the opposition is dozing/being lazy, or doesn’t want to take political heat from taking a position on something, they can just let regulations stand without challenging them, but if people are paying attention then regulations still effectively need the support (or at least not the active hostility) of both chambers of parliament to survive.
So, yeah, I think people are overstating the importance of things being implemented by regulation vs legislation. And this parliament cannot bind future parliaments – if a future Labor government has the numbers to keep regulations alive they most likely will have the numbers to make legislative change as well if they are adroit enough negotiators.
(I have long wondered if there is actually a 1-vote difference in favour of regulation, which no one has ever provided a clear explanation one way or the other – to pass legislation you need 50%+1, but I assume you would need that same 50%+1 to disallow a regulation, so it would seem to me that there’s 1 vote less required to defeat legislation vs disallowing regulations; just one of those wrinkles which is undoubtedly significant at times).
“What starts with C, ends with T, and describes a person prepared to sell out future generations for short-term gain?”
Malcolm Turnbull?. It doesn’t fit the criteria but it’s close enough.
A carrot?
Well played.
Media sucks:
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/aug/17/turnbull-ditches-emissions-legislation-to-head-off-backbench-dissent
Turnbull never received the “Embattled” medal.
C@tmomma:
You can, but it’s a bit like someone saying “can’t you just get all the political discussion you need from TV/radio/newspapers?” about this place. YouTube uploads of music videos, particularly older stuff, often leave a lot to be desired, quality-wise. I suppose the analogy to TV/radio/newspapers for political discussions also holds true there. Some people will be satisfied with that.
William Bowe @ #2585 Friday, August 17th, 2018 – 6:33 pm
A contortionist? 🙂
Carrot is good though.