I’d have thought Newspoll might have had the week off, but The Australian reports that the latest instalment has Labor maintaining its 51-49 lead, with the Coalition up a point on the primary vote to 39%, Labor steady on 36%, the Greens steady on 10% and One Nation steady on 7%. On personal ratings, Malcolm Turnbull is up one on approval to 42% and down one on disapproval to 48%, Bill Shoten is steady on 32% and up one to 57%, and Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is unchanged at 48-29. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1704.
Newspoll: 51-49 to Labor
Newspoll caps a weekend of status quo by-election results with a status quo poll result.
Longman roughly similar to the state election vote………//
Darn
Will be interesting to see how this all plays out.
On that note, night all
Darn, the human resources Labor can summon for electioneering are really astounding. Moreover, they’re well- trained, well-organised and already seasoned even though the talent pool is generally made up of young people.
Labor members and supporters work together with volunteers from the unions and from community groups. The results are truly impressive.
As well, there is financial depth, with the vast majority of cash coming in small but regular amounts from a very wide array of donors, so there is no reliance on a narrow group of rain-makers.
There is also very detailed and consistent collaboration between the Federal and State offices and the campaign fronts. There is in-depth communication and preparation.
This is a very great strength for Labor.
By contrast, the Right are fragmented, compete against each other, lack volunteers and finance and seem to be as opposed to each other as they are to Labor.
Labor will out-campaign the Tories every time.
@Gorks
One Nation is not the only player in the territory to the right of the Coalition, there are a Smörgåsbord parties for such voters to choose from. Apart from the ones such as the Australian Conservatives, Katter’s Australia Party, Clive Palmer’s resurrected party. There is a small party called the Australia Liberty Alliance which should get some attention, namely through it Anti-Islam policies.
https://www.australianlibertyalliance.org.au/
Tristo…quite right. The RW is fragmenting, just as occurred prior to the formation of the Liberal Party. This has some way to travel I reckon.
Briefly
I totally agree and I would add that you personally deserve great credit for being part of the Labor team in WA that works so hard to get Labor candidates elected.
ItzaDream – laughing as I just saw that – yes I changed to that a while ago and then couldn’t change it back! I think I know how to now but I am leaving it till I am singing it (badly) on Federal election night. When I was young I never realised it is actually new words to an old Russian song – Дорогой длинною
(By the Long Road)
And thanks for all the info about Ketamine. I am a bit stunned if that’s what they used but it seems to fit with what I’ve read here. Very strange stuff – used by the US military for battlefield injuries and also in disasters.
Darn…I’m very happy to help out…it’s invariably interesting and constructive. But I can very safely say the volunteer base is now huge compared to the commencement of this process at the time of the Canning by-election.
There is a great feeling of shared purpose too…..a feeling that is strengthened by success. Winning is important. We know how to win. We know how to persist and to maintain focus. It is quite formidable.
I read this with puzzlement “This bespeaks one poor aspect of the by-elections for Labor – after playing dead at two successive elections, its vote in Mayo has fallen all the way to 6.0%. ”
Duh ?
Mayo has never voted strongly for Labor..Not in 32 years… So there lost little by playing dead’ as you say it..
Rather by withdrawing Labor has allowed the growth of a real NON Liberal party alternative in Rebekha Sharkie. as an effectively Independent Mayo MP. And made life for the Liberals that much harder.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jul/29/he-may-not-be-as-vulgar-as-trump-but-turnbull-uses-the-same-playbook
He may not be as vulgar as Trump but Turnbull uses the same playbook
I know people have been talking about a May election. Isn’t that going to cause problems with the budget?
Amazed that Cyrillic script loaded! Must be all those Russian hackers at work.
I have been reading the comments sections on “The Australian” articles after the by-elections. There were 1500 on one article – read a few hundred. The writers have for the most part totally lost it – I have seen their style before but this is a whole new level.
When I foresee an election loss, or see an actual loss, it gets me down but it’s not the end of the world and I know that things will turn. These writers are apocalyptic – even more so than their newspaper’s columnists! I meet thousands of people every year from all stratas of society in just about all states and territories, and I can think of very few I have met who are this crazy.
It is sort of amusing, but it is also pretty tiring. The “restore Abbott” bunch are the most predictable – I too hope that their dearest prayers are fulfilled and the Liberals reinstate him. Seems unlikely this term, but it would be a nice post-election gift if they did it in the event of losing.
But many of the rest just seem to live in a different dimension. And I often wonder whether these writers themselves benefited from
1. Taxpayer funded tertiary education courtesy of Labor
2. Taxpayer funded universal medicare courtesy of Labor
3. Economic benefit courtesy of Labor’s reforms in the Hawke-Keating years
Anyway, the last time I noticed this degree of “shrillness” and sheer number of comments was in the lead-up to the 2007 Federal Election, so maybe that’s a sign.
In fairness to Newspoll, while the headline 2PP may be on the low side for Labor, from memory the last state breakdown for Queensland was around 47-53 right? At least bludgertrack is giving a swing of 5.5% there since 2016. That’s not incompatible with the hard evidence from the by-elections. I would have thought there’s potential for the big states of NSW and Vic to do very little while SA and Tas go backwards slightly (without flipping any seats), masking the QLD-WA tsunami in the national figures.
Just looking at Insiders.
Tanya Plibersek’s performance was wooden and uninspiring, which is unusual for her.
Another poster remarked on this and said she might have celebrated more than was wise last night. That is what it looked like.
But good luck to her, it was a time that Labor deserved to celebrate!
Any idea how Newspoll allocated preferences this time? What would the 2PP be if preferences were allocated according to how they split at the last election? Something like 52-48?
The SmearStralian trying hard to rationalise the loss, cherry picking..
‘An estimated $450,000 television and radio advertising blitz in the last week of the Longman by-election campaign by Labor across the entire southeast of Queensland — up against no TV ads from the Liberal National Party — helped finish off Malcolm Turnbull’s chances of an unlikely victory.
While the Liberal Party spent up massively in the Bennelong by-election in Sydney in December, at a time the government’s majority and the Prime Minister’s future was at stake, it did not take on the spending by Labor in Longman, or Braddon, when Bill Shorten’s leadership was at stake.
One senior LNP source saidyesterday one of the reasons the party did not pull out all stops in Longman was ‘‘the published polling was encouraging but our polling was more sobering”.
But the issue highlights a broader challenge for Mr Turnbull in the lead-up to next year’s general election: how he copes with a deluge of union money when the Liberal Party has not been able to raise as successfully as usual lately.
Mr Turnbull donated $1.75 million of his own money to save the 2016 election campaign. He has been criticised internally for not doing enough to attend fundraisers.
The Australian revealed last month that Mr Turnbull’s brother-in-law, Michael Hughes, had been employed as NSW Liberal finance director in a bid to raise more funds. Senior Liberal sources saidat the time that the party would struggle to mount a competitive advertising campaign were a federal election to be called this year. One source said that, across the country, the party is at least “a couple of million short”.
Fundraising is likely to prove even more of a challenge after the weekend’s results, as business tends to sponsor the side it believes will win government.’
@Sprocket_
Why do the even bother? LOL.
Right Wing organ The Spectator analyses the state of play from the Chesterfields…
‘Malcolm Turnbull is free to call an election any time between now and May.
He hoped yesterday would provide a spingboard for a poll vault maybe even before the football finals at the end of September or sometime in October, a poll he could win.
Now he has to factor in three more ballots; the Victorian state election in late November, a New South Wales vote in March — and a potential leadership spill.
He’s now been comprehensively outcampaigned by Shorten Labor on two occasions.
His based strayed to One Nation in utterly crucial ground in Queensland on Saturday.
Does he try for third time lucky, skip bringing back the parliament and still go early, or risk the rug being pulled from under his feet.
Late last night faint talk of a February spill could be detected. It might have been the hour. It might have been the beers.
Whatever the case, it was the last thing the Prime Minister wanted — just as last night’s result was the last thing he needed.’
https://www.spectator.com.au/2018/07/the-only-poll-that-matters-stinks-for-the-turnbull-libs/
iTnews
@iTnews_au
29s29 seconds ago
Govt could tap bank, telco data for tourist insights: As part of “large scale data supply project”.
This is the true reason for using metadata.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/govt-could-tap-bank-telco-data-for-tourist-insights-497888?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=itnews_autopost
C@tmomma @ #22 Sunday, July 29th, 2018 – 10:31 pm
CM & ID:
That’s what I had heard – which implies midazolam either intravenously (which would be difficult without a central line as ID pointed out) or subcutaneously (which would be a bit slow). In fact, it may have been readministration of intranasal ketamine by the accompanying divers that Dr Harris was so proud of. That would make sense – though I hope that the Thai PM doesn’t snort special K prior to shooting.
Mark “Inner Western Culture” Newton
@NewtonMark
5m5 minutes ago
Why does @CAComms have an issue with women standing up in public and saying what they think about abortion? This is pretty disgusting, and I hope she extracts business-changing damages from them.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/cricket-australia-sacks-worker-over-series-of-tweets-about-abortion-20180729-p4zuar.html
ABC are not reporting the election results as a win/loose or victory/defeat but a retain.
Good morning dawn Patrollers
David Crowe reckons the Longman result (and the others) have put the high end business tax cut policy at risk of being dropped.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/byelection-defeat-prompts-rethink-of-turnbull-s-company-tax-cuts-20180729-p4zub4.html
Simon Benson agrees saying Turnbull’s senior cabinet colleagues have privately warned that the government must resolve the company tax issue and seek an immediate resolution to the Catholic school funding crisis or face a wipe out at the next federal election.
https://outline.com/MXuPmF
Katharine Murphy explains how Turnbull has given his government room to move on its unpopular tax cut for Australia’s biggest businesses after losing badly in Saturday’s critical byelection in the Queensland marginal seat of Longman.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/29/malcolm-turnbull-gives-coalition-wiggle-room-on-company-tax-cuts
Phil Coorey joins the pack on the company tax cuts.
https://outline.com/hzqtUZ
And Coorey writes, “ Bill Shorten’s plague of locusts now hovers over the Coalition”.
https://outline.com/EZpryM
And he says the wins were a win for policy over personality. He concludes that Bill Shorten is on a path to election victory and the pressure is on Malcolm Turnbull to respond.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/voters-give-leaders-their-byelection-lesson-20180729-p4zu9d.html
San Kelly goes even further by writing that Shorten didn’t just pass the test – he blew it away!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/shorten-didn-t-just-pass-the-test-he-blew-it-away-20180729-p4zuaj.html
Peter van Onselen pretty well sums up the weekend.
https://outline.com/uEUsDp
Peter Hartcher writes that Super Saturday turned out to be merely Status Quo Saturday with no change to the numbers in the Parliament, but beneath the surface a great fracturing is under way. He says the dismal result exposes the fact that Turnbull’s personal appeal is failing and, in a
marginal outer metropolitan seat like this one, seems to be a liability.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/super-saturday-revealed-voters-are-hungry-for-an-alternative-20180729-p4zub1.html
Jennifer Hewett says that despite claiming the swing in Longman was expected, the frustration of Turnbull and his ministers is obvious.
https://outline.com/nHRAP7
And Mark Kenny describes the weekend as a setback to the government of sobering proportions.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/coalition-byelection-fail-a-setback-of-sobering-proportions-20180729-p4zu94.html
Amanda Vanstone polishes the turd.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/shorten-can-be-jubilant-but-it-s-not-all-bad-news-for-turnbull-20180727-p4zu13.html
The Australian, of course, whinges that GetUp! deployed “hundreds” of its members to campaign in Longman against the government’s company tax cuts.
https://outline.com/7FAdqd
Despite several assassination attempts, Bill Shorten is alive and kicking this morning. The results of Super Saturday should finally put to rest rumours of a challenge by Anthony Albanese. However, as Martin Hirst reports, it could be Malcolm’s bye bye election.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/super-saturday-results-malcolms-bye-bye-election,11735
Michelle Grattan reckons Turnbull’s authority has been diminished after the byelection failures.
https://theconversation.com/view-from-the-hill-malcolm-turnbulls-authority-diminished-after-byelection-failures-100741
The precious Downers are all upset. They just don’t get it!
https://outline.com/rSqjeN
Urban Wronski piles right on to the Downer dynasty.
https://urbanwronski.com/2018/07/30/not-so-super-saturday-for-mal-but-silencing-dissent-a-winner/
According to the New Daily prominent conservatives have called Malcolm Turnbull’s leadership into question after Labor’s “four from four” clean sweep in Saturday’s by-elections.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/07/29/turnbull-leadership-longman/
Matt Wade explains how Victoria has overtaken NSW with respect to economic growth.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/nsw-loses-mantle-as-top-state-economy-20180729-p4zual.html
The Adelaide Advertiser tells readers that serious questions are being raised about the government’s ability to campaign on the ground after the Coalition failed to win two key by-elections at the weekend.
https://outline.com/67EdGE
Frydenberg has flagged a two-stage process with state and territory ministers in an attempt to maximise the government’s chances of achieving sign-off for the national energy guarantee in August.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jul/30/josh-frydenberg-flags-two-stage-talks-to-get-energy-guarantee-over-the-line
John McDuling tells us how Peter Costello has broken his silence to defend the broadcaster’s planned takeover of publisher Fairfax Media in the face of a tepid market reaction to the deal.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/costello-breaks-silence-as-nine-begins-fairfax-charm-offensive-20180729-p4zu9k.html
And Michael West tells us about Nine, Fairfax, media muzzling and the threat to journalism.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/nine-fairfax-media-muzzling-and-the-threat-to-journalism/
Ross Gittins complains about how much money is wasted on the wrong infrastructure projects.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/why-so-much-money-is-wasted-on-the-wrong-infrastructure-20180728-p4zu6o.html
The publisher of the New York Times says he has warned US President Donald Trump that his attacks on journalists as the “enemy of the people” could lead to violence.
https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/donald-trump-s-media-attacks-are-dangerous-and-undermining-democracy-20180730-p4zubz.html
David Smith says that a public service review that doesn’t consider the perils of moving away from a merit-based, permanent public service will not address its underlying issues. He warns that this government’s review is flawed from the very start. It’s a worry.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/an-aps-review-must-back-its-resources-and-expertise-20180724-p4ztdu.html
Here is a staunch defence of Australia’s health care system.
https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/australia-s-healthcare-system-saved-my-life-20180729-p4zua1.html
ASIC is attempting to shut down an investment scheme that has allegedly siphoned off millions of dollars from unsuspecting consumers and has the hallmarks of a major US fraud case and an FBI investigation.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/asic-chases-an-alleged-international-scam-linked-to-fbi-probe-20180729-p4zu9q.html
The Labor Party has referred a number of Liberal and National Party MPs to Victoria Police for investigation, claiming they inappropriately used electorate office staff for political campaigning during normal business hours. Has the Lobster over-reached?
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/labor-refers-liberal-national-mps-to-police-in-new-rorting-claim-20180729-p4zubh.html
Trump said yesterday that he would allow the federal government to shut down if Democrats refuse to back the wall and major changes to immigration laws.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/29/donald-trump-government-shutdown-immigration
Has Mark Zuckerberg, like Frankenstein, lost control of the monster he created?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/29/has-zuckerberg-like-frankenstein-lost-control-of-the-monster-he-created
Advertising market leaders have warned Nine Entertainment that it must preserve the journalistic pedigree of Fairfax Media’s premier mastheads if it wants to successfully manage the difficult prospect of cross-selling across a newly merged media giant’s various platforms.
https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/advertisers-warn-nine-it-must-maintain-fairfax-standards-20180729-p4zuad.html
Richard Ackland wonders if politicians are incapable of fixing this stain on our humanity, our history and our dignity, what about the judges?
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jul/27/offshore-detention-wont-be-fixed-by-politicians-can-the-high-court-help
John Pierik says that despite the hoopla and stunning fall-out surrounding the ball tampering saga in South Africa in March, you could be forgiven for wondering whether David Warner, Steve Smith and, to a lesser degree, Cameron Bancroft are suspended.
https://www.theage.com.au/sport/cricket/sport-thought-have-smith-warner-and-bancroft-really-been-suspended-20180726-p4zto9.html
The establishment at work.
https://www.smh.com.au/national/cricket-australia-sacks-worker-over-series-of-tweets-about-abortion-20180729-p4zuar.html
Cartoon Corner
David Rowe. Oh dear!
Mark David has Turnbull taking one step too far.
A ripper from Peter Broelman.
And also from Sean Leahy.
And a nice one from Glen Le Lievre.
Alan Moir trots out Napoleon Turnbull again.
Pat Campbell sums up the privacy concerns of the MyHealth System.
Mark Knight might have been a bit early with this one,
This one of David Pope’s is just SO good!
Jon Kudelka with Turnbull’s homecoming.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/6a2a79283f1c3eb55364dd7a2106fdbb
Just a few more in here.
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-july-30-2018-20180729-h13aha.html
briefly @ #25 Sunday, July 29th, 2018 – 8:40 pm
Not necessarily. A 54-46 to Labor result would be within MOE.
TPOF @ #38 Sunday, July 29th, 2018 – 8:59 pm
I did a post on this last night about the link between identity and voting behaviour. Not running in Perth to concentrate on Braddon and Longman is another Brian Trumble brainfart that has blown up in his face.
A while ago I found a really good academic paper on the link between identity and voting behaviour and unfortunately have not been able to find it again. The conclusion was that messing with it was not a good idea.
Morning all
BK
Thanks for today’s reports.
It is amusing that after the by election results, the fibs are being pressured to dump the corporate tax cuts.
@facepalm@
Turnbull hasn’t tweeted for 2 days.
ABC news dragging out Nick Greiner to tell us nothing to see here. Anyone from Labor?
You know the answer to that question.
Good Morning Bludgers 🙂
The Storm Troopers at The Lolstralian have swung into action today to tidy up Malcolm’s latest mess. I smell new laws to try and cause the Unions and GetUp to not be able to campaign on behalf of Labor in some way:
And Judith Sloan has been saddled up to ride into battle for the High End Corporate and Multinational Tax Cuts:
You see, it’s just the salesmen, not the product, and, well, Labor. Because, naughty effective Opposition not allowing the snow job from the well-heeled corporate end of town to work! 🙂
Darn @ #56 Sunday, July 29th, 2018 – 10:18 pm
How did the L/NP go with their field campaigning in Braddon and Longman?
The WA Liberals don’t have a field campaign worthy of the name, and the WA Nationals have decided they don’t need one. Neither party have the capacity to change that anytime soon, and the Liberals are broke, so they can’t hire one in.
Asher Wolf
Verified account @Asher_Wolf
Jul 27
Astonishing. Mark Burgess, chief of the Australian Police Federation representing more than 60k police officers, has called on the Turnbull government to urgently legislate to outlaw investigators from accessing the #MyHealthRecord system without a warrant
Another election was held on the weekend, the kind of election only dtt would consider valid and democratic.
Cambodia took a massive step backwards and while the US takes steps against Hun Sen’s regime, Australia, to it’s shame, barely batters an eyelid.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-07-30/australia-urged-to-reject-cambodian-election-result/10030904
Newspoll was about where I expected it to be, but I now believe this will be as good as it gets for the Coalition for a while at least. I expect that Labor will now take back the initiative and momentum, while the government decide what to do over key policy issues such as the company tax cuts and energy. I won’t be surprised if in the coming weeks Newspoll edges back out to 52 or even 53 for Labor.
The interesting thing about Denmore’s 5 pieces of advice is that apart from #1, they were all part of voters expectations in September 2015 when Turnbull had a PPM figure of 60%.
So now Labor are cheating, underhanded b@stards because they ran a campaign?
Malcolm must be looking at Cambodia with envy.
Barney in Go Dau @ #84 Monday, July 30th, 2018 – 7:54 am
Not to mention Hun Sen threatened to unleash a bloody civil war on Cambodians, shades of Pol Pot, if they didn’t re-elect him!
Julie Bishop is complicit by association with this murderous man and has blood all over her expensive clothes if she allows this election result to go ahead unchecked.
zoomster @ #89 Monday, July 30th, 2018 – 5:08 am
It probably explains the close ties. 🙁
lizzie @ #89 Monday, July 30th, 2018 – 8:10 am
Yes please, Mr Smooth! 🙂
Also the religious freedom inquiry is due, there was a number of things put on hold for the byelections.
Jul 29. Is Peter Dutton paranoid?
lizzie @ #91 Monday, July 30th, 2018 – 5:10 am
It will be interesting to see Divided Nation’s position now the by-elections are over.
Hopefully they don’t pass and they’re dumb enough to support them.
Reminds me of a song…..
Death on two legs……
Aren’t we meant to get the AFP’s investigation into Cash’s office tomorrow? 🙂
The Today Show
Verified account @TheTodayShow
53m53 minutes ago
“It’s not about the politicians, it’s about the people.” -@billshortenmp #9Today
Trump Just Dug His Own Grave By Attacking Robert Mueller
Robert Mueller is investigating Trump’s tweets, so the president responded by attacking the Special Counsel on Twitter.
Trump tweeted:
Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump
Is Robert Mueller ever going to release his conflicts of interest with respect to President Trump, including the fact that we had a very nasty & contentious business relationship, I turned him down to head the FBI (one day before appointment as S.C.) & Comey is his close friend..
Trump is trying to discredit the Special Counsel so that he can damage the credibility of the findings. The fact that Trump consistently omits about Mueller is that his own administration appointed him. When Trump refers to the anger of the investigators, he is projecting his own anger onto them.
The Special Counsel wants to talk to Trump about his tweets, so the dumbest and most self-destructive thing that Donald Trump could do would be to attack Robert Mueller on the platform that he is investigating. We are watching a guilty president self-destruct, and dig his own political grave one tweet at a time.
https://www.politicususa.com/2018/07/29/trump-attacks-robert-mueller.html
My recollection of the wash up from the Ryan by election many years ago was that the swing to and capture of that seat by Labor caused Howard to act decisively and freeze the CPI increase of petrol price taxes.
While it was blatant appeal to the hip pocket of voters, it was successful in turning round the LNP popularity and was the catalyst for them going on to victory at the next election.
The contrast today is that despite Labor campaigning strongly against the Corporate Tax cuts and promoting the accompanying messages around how that money can be better spent on hospital and schools and the like, that the Libs are dithering and arguing the point about whether they should persist with the Tax cuts.
A strong political leader would have made the call already imho.
Grimace – I know that seat polling is notoriously inaccurate, but Newspoll had about SIX goes in Longman and didn’t come anywhere near the final result. Surely that tends to suggest, without proving, that it is weighted towards the libs.