The latest Ipsos poll for the Fairfax papers is a much better result for the Coalition than the last such poll four weeks ago, with Labor’s lead narrowing from 53-47 to 51-49. This is presumably the result from 2016 election preferences: Ipsos also produces a respondent-allocated result, but it usually takes a bit of digging to get hold of it.
The Coalition is up four on the primary vote to 39%, Labor is down one to 34% and the Greens are steady on 12%. Malcolm Turnbull also records strong improvement in his personal ratings, with approval up five to 55% and disapproval down six to 38%, while Bill Shorten is down two to 38% and up one to 54%. Turnbull’s lead as prime minister is out to 57-30, compared with 51-33 last month. Also featured are questions on best party to handle various issue areas, which have the Coalition leading 60-33 on the economy, 56-33 on interest rates and 45-41 on asylum seekers, while Labor leads 48-41 on health, 49-42 on education and 49-35 on the environment.
The poll was conducted Wednesday to Saturday from a sample of 1200.
See also the post below this one on Super Saturday by-election polling. You may also care to observe the post-redistribution electoral pendulum I posted over the weekend (and perhaps even to give the tip jar at the top of the page a workout, redistribution calculation being rather laborious exercise).
Bribie would sink with another 50,000 residents assuming you could find the places to house them.
poroti @ #96 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 10:49 am
damn socialist extremists !
https://theconversation.com/what-should-be-done-with-the-nbn-in-the-long-run-99294
Davidwh
You mustn’t pay any attention to such stupid ON statements. It’s not good for your health. 🙂
My take on The Narrowing is this becomes inevitable whenever our Murdoch dominated MSM goes the full propaganda mongrel, which has obviously been triggered by the potential importance of these multiple by-elections for both leaders. Later on this week, not even a boys-trapped-in-a-cave-rescue event would be able knock off frontpage Shock and Awe attacks on Labor along with gorgeous garlands for noble Mal, aka The Battler’s Benefactor. Given that a small percentage of no-shows might determine the winner of a couple of seats, the Labor Party’s current challenge is analogous to Democractic Party’s in America’s upcoming Midterm election.
The author of ‘The Art of the Deal’. Tony Schwartz, today warned Democrats to stop “parsing” Trump’s statements because he’s just an unhinged compulsive liar. Accordingly, forget about persuading the 40% of Americans who support Trump no matter what and concentrate all efforts on getting the other 60% out to vote.
To eschew wasting my time with Trump normalisers among White House “correspondents”, I’ve noticed they’ll always call him “THE President”. These stenographers of propaganda and leaks then appear on MSNBC, CNN etc. and bask in glory for their “scoops”. If an interviewer seeks any analysis, we get variations of “there are more questions than answers”. (Young Mel Gibson, playing an Aussie correspondent in Sukarno’s Jakarta, gets castigated for spouting this hoary nonsense to his editor in Peter Weir’s ‘The Year of Living Dangerously’. David Williamson’s scintillating screenplay is based on Christopher Koch’s widely lauded novel.)
@J341983
If there are substantial swings towards Labor in both Longman and Braddon, then Malcolm Turnbull’s position is weaken. Tony Abbott will be embolden to continue subverting the government. Hard to say what would happen if Labor retains both and there is little of a swing. The Liberals winning both would be a great outcome for Malcolm Turnbull and be a rebuke to Tony Abbott.
Tony Abbott is doing this subversion because I believe the Coalition die hard supporters were disgusted generally at his deposing as Prime Minister. Many would like him back as Prime Minister.
Davidwh @ #101 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 7:52 am
Maybe Bill is looking to increase tourist numbers to the island. 🙂
lizzie @ #88 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 10:39 am
I doubt the ABC RN audience will be particularly influenced by the ravings o. f the One .Nnation candidate apart from re-inforcing why they wouldn’t vote for him or his Party.
The claims that Bill Shorten might allow a hypothetical 50,000 AS land on Bribie .Iisalnd is a bit of a stretch.
The most interesting thing in that interview was that Pauline Hansen was taking R & R leave in the final week of the campaign that could make or break her Party’s influence in Federal politics. Has she given up?
You call it lack of mettle, I call it good sense. Labor learned the hard way of the transactional costs of switching leaders mid stream and know what would happen if they tried it again now. Unfortunately you prefer to indulge your own little pipe dream rather than try to understand that.
If Portugal continues on its current trajectory of recovery, I expect its government to be overthrown with the aid of the USA!
@Prof. Higgins
The main difference between the forthcoming Federal Election here and the US mid term elections is that Donald Trump is wildly popular among the Republican base which will ensure a strong turnout by those people. That sort of stuff matters in an electoral system with voluntary voting and low voter turnout as the United States has.
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The ascension of Albanese to LOTO would be an unmitigated disaster. Plibersek, imo, is not an option either.
There’s no turning back. It’s sink or swim with Shorten.
Darn @ #109 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 10:59 am
Apples and oranges.
Rudd was popular. Shorten is not.
Pegasus @ #113 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:03 am
Could you pass that message on to Rex? Thanks.
Alice Workman tweets..
Tony Abbott is in Woodford QLD this morning campaigning with the LNP’s Longman candidate Trevor Ruthenberg.
@Pegasus – agreed.
Like you give a flying fuck Pegasus.
Pegasus @ #113 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:03 am
I disagree that it would be a disaster, given Shorten is unpopular.
But I can’t see a change happening.
GG
Pauline is probably exhausted from all that speechifying. It takes a lot of energy to form sentences.
Also, herding all her cats into line must be a strain.
Does Labor support the opt-out model for my health record?
According to federal Labor MP Pat Conroy:
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/zero-confidence-labor-mp-in-push-for-opt-in-digital-health-records-20180722-p4zsxm.html
Player One @ #115 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:06 am
Rex knows it’s true. It’s just that his wet dream is that it might happen and Labor would be a divided force in Federal politics.
Pegasus
I agree.
****
Abbott with Ruthenberg? I bet they get on well together. Who cares about facts?
boomy1,
What is your gravatar?
poroti @ #96 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 10:49 am
All good wishes to them.
And they decriminalised drugs, all drugs, to considerable social benefit.
And then there’s the gen-u-ine Portuguese tarts (from Belem).
Pegasus @ #121 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:08 am
I believe that Lib MP Tim Wilson has opted out.
https://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/tim-wilson-opts-out-of-my-health-calls-for-opt-in-scheme/news-story/a80a8a7d48e7cc33fd674c93a4269ae9
Tristo,
You’re spot on. All the same, the challenge for the Labor Party is that the Murdochian propaganda blitz has the potential to result in too many lukewarm Labor voters deciding to let this by-election go through to the keeper because neither control of the government nor the Senate is on the line. You know, they’ve got a nasty hangover from TGIF or their kid’s got a big sporting event etc. etc. etc.
GG
As I’ve said before I value your opinions on electoral matters.
Do you think the difficulties the Andrews government has been mired in recently has lessened their chances of success in November? I did ask the question a couple of days ago but I don’t think you were around at the time.
Also while you’re at it, how are you reading Labor’s federal chances in light of the tightening of the polls we are seeing at the moment.
The media, and certain politicians, are obsessed with keeping the population in fear through unbalanced mongering of criminal behaviour. This US study is the tip of the iceberg.
This is not to condone evil jihadists in any way, however you can almost feel the letdown when the latest massacre is found to be ‘not terrorism related’.
‘Terrorist attacks committed by Muslim extremists receive 357% more US press coverage than those committed by non-Muslims, according to new research from the University of Alabama. The researchers controlled for factors like target type, number of fatalities, and whether or not the perpetrators were arrested before reaching their final statistic.
Terrorist attacks committed by non-Muslims (or where the religion was unknown) received an average of 15 headlines, while those committed by Muslim extremists received 105 headlines.
The findings, which are illustrated below, were based on all terrorist attacks in the US between 2006 and 2015 according to the Global Terrorism Database. The disparity in media coverage is particularly out of sync with the reality given that white and rightwing terrorists carried out nearly twice as many terrorist attacks as Muslim extremists between 2008 and 2016.’
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2018/jul/20/muslim-terror-attacks-press-coverage-study?CMP=soc_568
If you buy into the line that, unless he has a brilliant success on the by-elections, Shorten is toast, you’re guaranteeing yourself a life of continuous angst.
At first the CPG told us that if Labor lost 2 out of 5 Bill was a goner.
Then it was only 1 he needed to lose.
Then it was just a reduced vote.
Meanwhile, Turnbull has gone from braying confidence to making excuses for losing, telling us what we already know: that by-elections usually favour the opposition.
CPG chartists quote figures that show an opposition by-election loss is a once-in-a-century event, as if magically if this happens Albo will mount a challenge forthwith, just like the media and Turnbull instructed him to. Forget about Labor spill rules and all the rest. “That’s all been taken care of,” we are assured by anonymous Labor insiders talking to CPG hacks paid to foment trouble.
Now the latest message is that it’s all over red rover for Labor because notoriously unreliable by-election polls say so, making Labor the underdogs. It doesn’t make any sense, unless the idea is to demiralise potential voters into not turning up on Saturday. But the predicted margin is too close for that, a “statistical dead heat” as WB puts it.
What else? To bring on a spill before Saturday? Like Canning in WA? Impossible, given the rules.
The media have been progressively lowering the bar for Shorten Ruination until it’s virtually touching the ground. If a sparrow farts in Longman you could be forgiven for thinking that was enough to Kill Bill by now.
All of this makes it seem to me that someone should be scared of defeat on Saturday, but it’s not necessarily Bill Shorten.
GG
Re Wilson, yes I am aware of that.
As reported, does federal Labor support the opt out model? If so, why?
Okay, Labor does.
https://www.sbs.com.au/news/extend-e-health-opt-out-date-labor-says
Darn @ #129 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:21 am
Andrews just announced a $13billion regional train hub at Sunshine with the Airport connection as the steak knives. Likely to be very popular in the Regions like Ballarat and Geelong. So, his approach is pretty much getting on with the job which is probably the response that most voters will respect.
I tend to ignore the inner beltway issues that the Libs and the Greens like to go on about.
E.G. Skytrain from my sources is a huge success. It’s only the Libs and their running dogs in the MSM that portray it as an issue.
Federally, I’m expecting Labor to win the contentious by-elections. Hansen disappearing is peculiar. One nation never poll that well at elections despite what the polls say.
I don’t take much notice of personal ratings of politicians. People will vote for the candidate that represents their interests. History says by-elections swing to the Opposition. Can’t see any reason why that won’t be the case on Saturday.
https://www.smh.com.au/technology/errors-and-incompetence-australians-split-over-government-s-opt-out-digital-health-records-20180720-p4zsnc.html
I don’t often agree with Tim Wilson.
However he is totally correct on the MyHealthRecord.
It should be opt in. Then the pressure is on the government to get it right.
Hey? Andrew Earlwood The whole world is just shit.
Many people will vote for the candidate that they have been hoodwinked to believe will represent their interests.
Peter Dutton’s latest beat-up is wrong. Signed, VicPol.
http://junkee.com/peter-dutton-laa-chol/168580
boomy1
What does your gravatar represent? I am curious.
Pegasus
Exhibit A: Donald Trump
Tristo @ #111 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:02 am
That first half is entirely wrong. Trump is wildly popular amongst his rabid 35%. But they won’t turn up to the midterms because Trump isn’t running.
The rest of the Republic party won’t turn up, because they’re turned off and disengaged. The may put down that they “approve” of Trump in opinion polls, but they don’t like him and are ashamed of him.
Democratic voters are (rightfully) enraged, and likely to turn out in droves. Along with a good proportion of independent (and usually apathetic, but not when Trump is around wrecking the joint and paling around with Putin/Russia) voters.
Pegasus @ #138 Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 11:37 am
As I said, most people tend to ignore the inner beltway issues promulgated by the self righteous toss pots of the left and right and vote for those candidates whom they think will represent their interests best on issues of day to reality.
I don’t always agree with them. But, I don’t disrespect them the way you are doing in that comment just because they have a different assessment to me.
ar
Give the 35% a few stories about how the the Dems ,if they ‘win’, will try impeach Trump . That’ll get them out to vote.
GG
I meant no disrespect, unlike those here who rant daily about the fools (insert prejorative of choice) who don’t vote Labor and buy into the memes, etc of the MSM.
As your comment illustrates, it’s okay for you to disrespect a whole swathe of people.
Pegasus (AnonBlock)
Monday, July 23rd, 2018 – 10:43 am
Comment #124
boomy1,
What is your gravatar?
I can’t imagine Trump (who’s the only one they’ll listen to) even suggesting impeachment is possible.
@Prof Higgins
I do believe a substantial swing to Labor could be a possibly in the Longman and Braddon by-elections. The polls from Mayo are consistently predicting Sharkie to romp home.
These by-elections could end up extremely embarrassing for Malcolm Turnbull and Tony Abbott’s white-anting of the government will continue. That is certainly influencing policy making by the government, witness the subsides to the coal industry as reported on the Macrobusiness blog.
https://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2018/06/suddenly-neg-big-fat-coal-subsidy/
Just remember what people were saying about Batman at this point…
https://www.theage.com.au/politics/victoria/victorian-senator-falls-victim-to-labor-s-preselection-brawl-20180723-p4zt1m.html