Labor’s two-point gain in last fortnight’s Essential Research poll has proved to be an aberration, with the latest result snapping back to 52-48. This is matched by the primary votes, on which the Coalition is up two to 38% and Labor down two to 35% (we will have to wait for the full report later today to see how the minor parties have gone). According to The Guardian’s report, the poll also finds 50% favouring Labor’s tax policy over the Coalition, with the result for the latter not stated, except of course that it’s lower; 79% supporting the first stage of the government’s tax cuts, targeting lower and middle income earners, but only 37% for stage three, whereby the tax scales will be flattened to the advantage of higher income earners; support and opposition for company tax cuts tied at 39% apiece; support for higher finding for the ABC, though we will have to wait for hard data on which areas of the broadcaster’s activities were most favoured.
Other questions relate to international matters, with 35% responding that the North Korea summit would make the world safer, 8% less safe, and 41% no difference. On foreign leaders, Justin Trudeau (up nine on last year) and Jacinda Ardern (on debut) both scored 54% approval, and if I’m reading this correctly, Theresa May scored 42% (up nine) and Donald Trump 22% (up six) – I believe other leaders will have been canvassed as well, but further results will have to wait.
UPDATE: Full results from Essential here – the Greens are up one to 11%, and One Nation down one to 7%. Further international leadership approval ratings include a 43% for Angela Merkel, unchanged on last year, 42% for Emmanuel Macron, up one, 19% for Vladimir Putin, up three, and, if you could credit it, 9% for Kim Jong-Un. Fortuitously, this comes as the Lowy Institute publishes results of a survey of 1200 respondents on Australian attitudes to the world, which similarly finds high levels of confidence for Theresa May and Emmanuel Macron, and low ones for Donald Trump and Kim Jong-Un.
Also out today is further results from the Newspoll in The Australian, finding Malcolm Turnbull favoured by 47% as best leader to handle the asylum seeker issue (down five from December) and Bill Shorten on 30% (up two). It also finds 26% expecting Labor will “improve the policy”, 37% that it will “open the floodgates”, and 24% that it will make no difference.
booleanbach
Think of it as tough love.
Boer
Yes, they do.
Were men responsible for 82% of murders and manslaughters last year?
Do you think that might indicate some kind of problem?
https://www.couriermail.com.au/rendezview/170-reasons-to-stand-up-to-violence-in-2018/news-story/08c130fef99c662d77b8be2b4af5d8e3
Re Shellbell @8:19AM.
Ipse dixit – another expression I’ve had to look up. “An assertion without proof; or a dogmatic expression of opinion”: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ipse_dixit.
It’s a good term for the standard operating procedure of right wing politicians and their boosters. Assert a factoid (or lie) loudly and often until it (hopefully from their point of view) becomes accepted wisdom.
zoomster
‘Men’ means all men. Not some men. Not many men. Not most men. But all men.
If you want to continue to stir up the men who do not rape women or murder them, the men who are not silent, and the men are active in their social and political and work spheres in these matters then I would heartily recommend that you continue to waste all our time and energy by continuing to accuse good men as if they are bad men.
This good man will continue react to these false accusations.
I use the phrase anthropogenic global warming when I want to be specific about what is causing global warming.
But generally I just use ‘global warming’.
zoomster
‘Were men responsible for 82% of murders and manslaughters last year?’
This is true but the fact does not transmute into ‘Men are murderers’.
Nor does it transmute into ‘Women are murderers.’
What it transmutes into is ‘Some men and fewer women are murderers.’
Apart from anything else if every man and every woman were a murderer all our problems would be solved.
s777, Shellbell
I Bludge therefore I ipse dixit.
This vandalism was carried out by a group of people (were they only men? No proof ) who have no respect for anyone. They simply want to destroy. This is the same motivation (?) behind the trashing of houses at ‘parties’.
Or perhaps
I ipse dixit, therefore I am.
In English:
I feelpinion, therefore I am.
How do you participate in Society if the Society doesn’t recognise you exist?
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jun/19/queensland-indigenous-children-no-birth-certificate
imacca @ #865 Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 – 1:14 am
So then she followed the advice, but died anyways. Seems the advice is perhaps not that useful, and not actually solving the problem.
All the talk about how danger exists so therefore women should factor it into their decisions is a massive red herring. Women shouldn’t have to do that, and they die anyways even if they do. Telling/reminding them that they need to keep doing it is worse than doing nothing.
FFS… are people still banging on with last nights acrimony?? I think by now everyone knows what everyone else thinks on this. Going on and on and on and on with the same stuff is how you wear people out, get people to switch off, and ignore rather than confront an issue.
lizzie
It was an act of hatred and it was despicable.
IMO it was also highly likely a political act. The personal is political and the political is personal.
Posted on previous page:
Steve77,
we were fortunate to not be identifiable by our appearance. No hijabs and blonde.
But for those of us who try to put ourselves in the shoes of others, it was an uncomfortable time when I kept quiet about my then religion .
I sense a rising white supremicism world wide with women often becoming side notes and collateral damage in the scrum for power. The increasing influence of Christian fundamentalism in our LNP and their sidelining of women in their party highlights the trend to the archaic biblical belief of men being in charge. Note how strong women have been so viciously attacked…Jillian Triggs, Julia, Emma Alberici and now Angela Merkel .
I speak from personal experience with siblings who are now fundamentalist Christians and have seen the changes from close up.
Have also felt for some time that this LNP has become a Trojan horse for fascist actions , a strong opinion I know, but it has been so incremental that many either haven’t noticed or don’t want to believe this could happen here.
Obviously union thugs disguised as college boys and IPA research fellows infiltrated that Liberal Party meeting in Arncliffe with a view to disrupting the meeting and making “Liberals” look bad. It’s all Bill Shorten’s fault.
God likes our policy? Really?
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/sessions-invokes-gods-wrath-he-would-do-better-to-fear-it/2018/06/18/66970cfe-731c-11e8-b4b7-308400242c2e_story.html?utm_term=.f3a991fd41b1
“All the talk about how danger exists so therefore women should factor it into their decisions is a massive red herring. ”
Dangerous bullshit ar.
“Women shouldn’t have to do that,”
Entirely correct.
” and they die anyways even if they do.”
Sometime shit happens. That’s the way the universe works regardless of how you may want it to work.
“Telling/reminding them that they need to keep doing it is worse than nothing.”
“Worse than nothing”?? No its not. Failing to acknowledge the basic, objective reality that various levels of risk are inherent to being alive is though.
“It’s all Bill Shorten’s fault.”
Isn’t everything??
Well said briefly and Zoomster among others.
ar
In a sense Ms Dixon was murdered at the intersection between what is and what ought to be.
What ought to be is that any individual should be able to be safe wherever there are, all the time.
What ought to be is that all men and all women should at all times behave with respect towards each other.
What is is that some men have a visceral hatred of women and express that hatred through rape and/or through murder.
What is, is that many men do not do enough to engender respect in themselves in their fellow men or in social, work and political institutions to engender respect for women.
What is, is that some women return this lack of a compliment.
Since what is, and what ought to be, are two separate things each individual has a fundamental choice: ignore the separation between the ideal and the real, or deal with it.
The individual choices made will, from time-to-time have terrible consequences.
It is not their fault that there is a separation between the real and the ideal.
It is not their fault that their risk assessment failed them.
But their risk assessment was, in the event, faulty.
No one disagrees with the assertion that all public spaces ought to be safe for everyone all the time.
No one disagrees with the assertion that any individual has the right at any time to use all public spaces at any time.
What we should all agree on is that good risk assessment is a useful survival tool.
What we should all agree on is that we should all be accountable for moving society in such a way that risk assessment becomes unnecessary.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/18/opinion/immigration-trump-children-american-empire.html?action=click&pgtype=Homepage&clickSource=story-heading&module=opinion-c-col-left-region®ion=opinion-c-col-left-region&WT.nav=opinion-c-col-left-region
Trump is simply doing Putin’s bidding.
You may already read it. Liberal party brawl in Sydney.
https://amp-smh-com-au.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/amp.smh.com.au/politics/nsw/feathers-fly-as-police-arrive-to-find-people-fleeing-scene-of-liberal-brawl-20180618-p4zm9i.html?amp_js_v=a1&_gsa=1#amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&share=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.smh.com.au%2Fpolitics%2Fnsw%2Ffeathers-fly-as-police-arrive-to-find-people-fleeing-scene-of-liberal-brawl-20180618-p4zm9i.html
I go for a 10km jog every morning
Almost exclusively those walking along the pathway I take are women
So all men go for a 10km jog every morning
And 99.9% of those who go for a morning walk are women
That is what my morning jog tells me
And some women are walking their dogs
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jun/19/endangered-australian-parrot-relies-on-government-deal-with-german-charity?CMP=share_btn_tw
Largely unreported in Australian Media is the presence of Cecilia Malmstrom, EU Commissioner for Trade, who will be negotiating a trade agreement with Australia.
(Their Monday press conference at Parliament House with Ciobo and PM MT was rudely interrupted by Labor moving suspension of standing orders to debate “That the house resolves that it will never support the privatisation of the ABC and calls on the government to reverse its latest damaging $83 million cut to the ABC”. )
Anyway, in her short speech before Ciobo and Turnbull did the bolt, she referred to one of the EU aims of the agreement – defining workers’ rights, environmental protections, and consumers’ rights. Malcolm’s mouth was a fixed line at this point (~5:20 in video). https://t.co/XgAEC8OunH or https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2018/jun/18/turnbull-coalition-labor-newspoll-politics-live?page=with:block-5b2717e9e4b02fa070a14906#liveblog-navigation
The EU fact sheet states:
“The trade negotiations aim at :
1.Removing barriers and helping EU firms – especially smaller ones – to export more
2.Putting European companies exporting to or doing business in Australia on an equal footing with those from countries that have signed up to the Trans-Pacific Partnership or other trade agreements with Australia
3.Ambitious provisions on trade and sustainable development, showing a shared commitment to labour rights and environmental protection (including climate change) in trade
4.Protecting distinctive regional EU food and drink products from imitations in Australia
5.Allowing EU companies to better participate in government procurement in Australia”
Note Aim #3. “showing a shared commitment to labour rights and environmental protection (including climate change) in trade”
Pity negotiations are in secret. I’d love to be a fly on the wall.
edit: add link:
http://ec.europa.eu/trade/policy/in-focus/eu-australia-trade-agreement/
@Ven
Why are Liberals eating foreign foods ?
LNP are like elitist white rich people.
Quasar @ #64 Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 – 8:59 am
Good post. A lot of this comes down to the ability to imagine oneself in the place of another.
We live in a patriarchal society. Surely nobody can dispute this.
A patriarchal society generally favours men. Surely also beyond dispute.
The question is to what extent this patriarchy, organised in the most part by and for the benefit of men is a cause of the level of violence inflicted on women in this society?
Quasar @ #63 Tuesday, June 19th, 2018 – 8:59 am
Quasar
I would like to disagree with you but scarily I cannot. Even down to the incipient fascism.
And just to stir up everyone – OK a tad trollish, the whole candlelight vigil is the other side of the same penny. The craving for public grieving seems to me to be a statement of some unmet need for collective emotion. Religion one gave us all that. As religion lost its hold 100 years ago nationalism (including fascism) grabbed at the heart strings (as did support for sports teams). Prosperity in the post war years gave us happy hippies, but as the prosperity evaporates and optimism dwindles people are searching for collective emotion.
Sports teams are now not local and stars are bought and sold. Emotional connection has dwindled (except for truly local stuff like state of Origin and the World Cup. People in need of shared emotional experiences are searching. Some will return to fundy religions, some to racism, some to nationalism (there is overlap). For those for whom these largely right wing options do not appeal, we will see outpouring of “public grief” but the core rationale is the same although one would hope the outcomes are more civilized. Once we might have seen working class solidarity and the union movement providing just such an outlet. This is still possible but I am not hopeful.
One Nation like the Palmer Party are fraudsters of being an illegal Party:
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/explosive-letter-reveals-one-nation-may-be-in-breach-of-electoral-laws-20180618-p4zm8m.html
“No one disagrees with the assertion that all public spaces ought to be safe for everyone all the time.
No one disagrees with the assertion that any individual has the right at any time to use all public spaces at any time.
What we should all agree on is that good risk assessment is a useful survival tool.
What we should all agree on is that we should all be accountable for moving society in such a way that risk assessment becomes unnecessary.”
Yup.
Good golly there were some nasty exchanges on here last night, normally from the usual suspects, and certainly from grown-ups who should know better. It felt like I had wandered on to the Mark Latham Facebook page.
So, remember, people, none of us really know each other (mostly), and the fact that we are all hiding behind nom de plumes should tell us all just how well we really know those we interact with on this wonderful blog. So please stop taking it all so personally – it really doesn’t matter (or at least, it shouldn’t) what some poster hiding behind a witty (or otherwise) pseudonym thinks of you. And it certainly is of no interest whatsoever to the rest of us to see the regular petulant and self-indulgent self-justifications that often pose for political commentary on this site.
Michelle Rowland
Verified account @MRowlandMP
15h15 hours ago
World Cup woes are a Turnbull ‘own goal.’ #auspol #WorldCup
Because some Liberals like it, it’s sometimes cheaper, and is often a healthier option?
Or perhaps its that they didn’t realize the grave political implications of their choice?
Josh Taylor
Verified account @joshgnosis
21h21 hours ago
Lucy Gichuhi (who now gets an extra $40,000 per year because she chairs a committee) said in January that $200,000 per year wasn’t a lot of money.
Good Morning
BW
If you don’t want to blame all men look at the cause of the violence. Call it the Toxic Masunlinity it is. Look the term up on Wikipedia.
There you can condemn the violence. Blame the patriarchal culture that leads to that toxic masculinity that lashes out in violence to assert dominance and not have to say all men.
Job done.
While on the subject of violence how about that Liberal Party meeting in Arncliffe?
Now thats a fight over branch stacking!!
While on the subject of violence how about that Liberal Party meeting in Arncliffe?
Now thats a fight over branch stacking!!
https://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/real-life/news-life/everyday-steps-women-take-that-would-shock-men/news-story/8328c96eeff6211bc62e941c5dc542f8
Bette Midler tweets
How do they keep track of the children they have separated from their parents? Tattoo a number on their wrists?
ISDS Still alive and kicking:
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/foreign-company-rights-to-sue-australia-are-still-in-the-trade-pact-mix/
“Then why does the Turnbull government still embrace so called ISDS clauses in the present negotiations for the Trans-Pacific Partnership deal (TPP-11)? ISDS stands for Investor-State Dispute Settlement. It is a mechanism for foreign companies to bypass sovereign courts and sue governments in international tribunals and there are some 850 known cases already: in mining, health, environment, even indigenous land rights law and policy.”
Cheryl Kernot tweets
And the same is true for Dutton in Australia. So step up please journalists. #auspol https://twitter.com/jayrosen_nyu/status/1008856410740936704
Jay Rosen Tweets
Covering a president who, unconstrained by fact, is trying to enflame and polarize requires a different playbook. If there’s one lesson from three years of this, for me that’s it.
Yawn, consider me switched off.
How about the irony of the liberal punch-up (masculine violence) being a breath of fresh air in here…
What is the Trump administration going to do with those children forcibly removed? They haven’t said.
Will the EU/Australia trade pact also include ISDS clauses?
C@t
FWIW I would be very sorry if you ever stopped posting here. I value the contributions of all the regular posters. This blog would not be the same without them.
I don’t always agree with what you say. But a lot of it I do; and at the end of the day you are strong Labor supporter and a hard worker for the cause and I like that.
Some issues can arouse very strong feelings in people, such as the discussion yesterday regarding the tragic death of Eurydice and the ‘debate’ can get very heated. When the very deepest emotions are involved that can easily happen.
The women here (and one or two of the men) took the view that any suggestion that women should play a part in their own safety and always be aware of the risks to them was in effect blaming the victim. Most of the men on the other hand took umbrage at the suggestion that it was somehow their personal responsibility to resolve the problem of male violence, the perceived implication being that it was somehow THEIR fault because another member of their gender committed an atrocity.
Both sides felt they were being blamed unfairly and that is bound to cause serious friction. For my part I prefer to avoid the name calling and nastiness and just state the case as I see it. But as always there are those who like to get involved in a bit of verbal biffo and I say to them, If you are going to dish it out be prepared for when it comes back at you.
Have a great day C@t.
Zeh
There is actually a debate in this country at the moment about the narrative of the response about violence against woman.
A debate that has been notable. So much so it is being reported by the BBC.
The condemnation of the violence and the discussion about victim blaming is making Australia look good at the moment from the report I heard by the BBC.
Its nice to have a positive report on Australians tackling the victim blaming narrative instead of one of us being racists or the punitive AS regime.
Shadow Minister for Education and Training @tanya_plibersek will address the inaugural meeting of Labor’s expert panel on TAFE and unis at 11:45am, Canberra #auspol
“Lucy Gichuhi (who now gets an extra $40,000 per year because she chairs a committee) said in January that $200,000 per year wasn’t a lot of money.”
And people wonder why she joined the Liberal Party.
Andrew Wilkie outlines an alternative to Mandatory Detention. Given his security experience this should be seriously considered
http://andrewwilkie.org/ending-nations-shame-wilkie-tables-refugee-protection-bill/
From Clementine’s article
“It’s up to everyone to challenge those attitudes and behaviours, especially the men who consider themselves “good blokes” who don’t deserve to be lumped in with the baddies.
But suggesting men might bear even the slightest responsibility for challenging violence perpetrated against women is like waving a red rag at a bull, if the bull had zero self-awareness, raging insecurity over a failed political career, and the name “Mark Latham”.”
Was she reading PollBludger last night?