The Australian reports Labor’s two-party lead in Newspoll is unchanged at 51-49, but Malcolm Turnbull has enjoyed a big hike on preferred prime minister, his lead out from 38-35 to 46-32. Both major parties are up a point on the primary vote, the Coalition to 39%, Labor to 38%, while the Greens are steady on 9% and One Nation are down one to 6%. Malcolm Turnbull is up three on approval to 39% and down three on disapproval to 50%; Bill Shorten is down one on 33% and up one to 55%. The poll was conducted Thursday to Sunday from a sample of 1728.
By contrast, an Ipsos poll for the Fairfax papers has Labor’s lead out from 52-48 a month ago to 54-46, which partly reflects the fact that Ipsos is sticking with a straight application of 2016 election preferences. A separate result based on respondent-allocated preferences has it at 53-47, out from 50-50 last time. The primary votes are Coalition 36% (steady), Labor 37% (up three), the Greens 11% (down one) and One Nation 5% (down three). Malcolm Turnbull is up four on approval to 51% and down four on disapproval to 39%, Bill Shorten is up one to 39% and down two to 51%, and Turnbull leads 52-32 as preferred prime minister, little changed from 52-31 last time.
Both polls also feature results on budget response, which produce the strongest results for impact on personal finances of any budget since the extravaganzas of 2007 and 2008. Newspoll found 29% saying it would make them better off and 27% worse off, which is the first net positive result since 2007, albeit that this was aided by an eight point spike in the “uncommitted” result. The respective numbers from Ipsos were 38%, the highest since 2006, and 25%. However, 57% of Ipsos respondents said they would prefer the money from the tax cuts instead go to pay off government debt, compared with 37% who favoured the cuts.
Newspoll also found 41% rating the budget good, up five on last year, and 26% bad, down one; but Labor did better than last year on the question of whether they could have done better, with 37% for yes (up four) and 44% for no (down three). Forty-eight per cent rated Malcolm Turnbull more capable of handling the economy compared with 31% for Bill Shorten; 38% rated Scott Morrison the better economic manager compared with 31% for Chris Bowen; and 51% said Labor should support the seven year tax-cut package, with 28% opposed.
Below are two displays putting the Newspoll results in the context of the similar polling that has been conducted after every budget of the past 30 years. The first of these plots the net personal impact result against the net economic impact, with this budget illustrated by the red dot. It shows the budget ranking fifth out of 31 budget on personal impact, with the top four having run in succession from 2004 to 2007. However, the result for economic impact is only slightly above average, at plus 15% compared with plus 10.9%. The red dot’s position below the trendline confirms that this was a budget whose benefits were seen as relatively favouring personal rather than broader economic impact.
The second chart records the net result for the “would the opposition have done better” question (Coalition governments in blue, Labor in red), on which the latest budget equals the horror 2014 budget as the best result ever recorded by Labor. The Coalition tends to do better on this question, and on budget response questions more generally, but even it only managed a net positive result after the other conspicuously poorly received budget within the Newspoll time frame, namely that brought down by John Dawkins after Labor’s unexpected 1993 election victory.


Andrew_Earlwood
I was not impressed by Fifield’s statement wtte that the ABC was privileged because it had a guaranteed income compared to the commercials. Talk about missing the point on purpose!
lizzie,
I prefer cash mostly, as do a lot of women suffering DV who scrimp and save enough cash to get away from abusive husbands who control the bank accounts. I know my mother did.
SkyNews seems to be steadfastly ignoring the Ipsos poll.
C@tmomma
I’m in heartfelt agreement with you. One OH used to give me the weekly ‘housekeeping’ and then dictate how and where I spent it.
Despite conflicting poll results Channel 7 only told its viewers about Newspoll and the “gain” for Turnbull.
The main reason Shorten doesn’t get better results is the BIG BUSINESS media one sided reporting. Sadly the ABC goes down the same road yet is rewarded with bigger cuts. In my opinion a fair media coverage may see Shorten ahead of Turnbull
https://outline.com/4EnrH8
“The best way to combat illegal activity is to cut red tape and reduce taxation.”
I suppose you could stop all illegal activity by making everything legal.
You could stop tax evasion by abolishing taxation.
All very logical.
https://www.theage.com.au/environment/conservation/dozens-of-animals-and-plants-join-australia-s-threatened-species-list-20180512-p4zexo.html
Oj well I was out by 1 on my New England polling night prediction of 50/50 newspoll by the budget.
Still the trend is there and suckers have fallen for the reporting of the Grand Seven Year Plan but he glorious leader.
Bill ain’t gonna get the chance to show how good a PM he could’ve been…..but Tanya might….
Fat chance when coastal development is in fashion. Mangrove swamps and “dirty mudflats” are not what developers want to see. International feeding grounds have been under development stress for years.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-10/calls-for-the-government-to-save-eastern-curlew-from-extinction/9746248
‘Buckle up’ says Team Trump as the Mueller investigation rolls over into its second year.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/buckle-up-as-mueller-probe-enters-second-year-trump-and-allies-go-on-war-footing/2018/05/13/e3d15fbe-546b-11e8-9c91-7dab596e8252_story.html?utm_term=.66291a567705
morning all
Surprised by the Ipsos poll. It is usually coalition friendly. 54/46 as compared to Newspoll, 51/49. I’ll take Ipsos thanks!
PhoenixRed
Your link to the Latest Avenatti story. He had made very clear statements over last few days, for those to come clean on these shady money dealings. If they didn’t voluntarily do so, he would do it for them. He was not bluffing. He is doing assymetrical warfare. It is fascinating to watch
Actually Avenatti said this in tweet a few hours ago.
Michael Avenatti
Michael Avenatti
@MichaelAvenatti
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2h
And to be clear – by “warning ignored” I am referring to the refusal of various parties to come clean and the failure of various parties and news outlets to stop with the personal attacks on our side. Keep pushing us. #consequences #basta
Auction results here in Melbourne once again show a market that has slowed down dramatically over past month. Homes are going for considerably less than a few months ago. Anyone who took out a mortgage recently, would not be pleased to see the value of their investment drop so quickly.
Coupled with rising petrol prices, the coalition are not sitting pretty at present.
Vic:
The Avenatti tweets are somewhat cryptic. Here’s the original.
https://twitter.com/MichaelAvenatti/status/995692536122564609
Okay so this is what he’s inferring with his tweets.
One of these headlines comes from The Australian. Can you guess which one ? 😆
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“Coalition behind Budget fails to turn around Turnbull’s government’s fortunes”
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“PM’s rating soars as voters back cuts”
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“Coalition loses ground with voters in bruising tax battle
New findings dash the Turnbull government’s hopes”
Victoria says: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:15 am
PhoenixRed
Your link to the Latest Avenatti story. He had made very clear statements over last few days, for those to come clean on these shady money dealings. If they didn’t voluntarily do so, he would do it for them. He was not bluffing. He is doing assymetrical warfare. It is fascinating to watch
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Hi Victoria – I am trying my best to work out Michaels story – it appears to be some great meeting of the minds at Trump Tower involving many of the “characters” – Cohen, Rebecca Mercer, Mooch, Flynn, Qatari diplomats etc etc – and some sort of bribery/sanctions – seems extremely complex – will wait for a simpler explanation
Agree – Avenatti is definitely a man on a mission – that might just blow the whole mess open
steve davis @ #39 Sunday, May 13th, 2018 – 10:19 pm
Someone left the lid off the petri dish……..
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Fess
Who would have thought that a hush payment made to a porn star, would be the unravelling of the Trump imbroglio.
I am still unclear as to whether Avenatti had figured this out via legal disclosures, or had been tipped off on where to look.
It seems to be that a great deal of this information, had to have come from some intelligence sources.
The unravelling of the puzzle is too complicated to have been done via simple channels. Of course and unless Avenatti has resources at his disposable to do this level of investigative work
Victoria says: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:30 am
Who would have thought that a hush payment made to a porn star, would be the unravelling of the Trump imbroglio.
I am still unclear as to whether Avenatti had figured this out via legal disclosures, or had been tipped off on where to look.
It seems to be that a great deal of this information, had to have come from some intelligence sources.
The unravelling of the puzzle is too complicated to have been done via simple channels. Of course and unless Avenatti has resources at his disposable to do this level of investigative work
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I would be interested to know if there is any Mueller-Avenatti connection ??????
https://outline.com/STV2ZS
https://twitter.com/robfahey
If one were to look at this page, one would see the following picture.
To extract the picture from Twitter right click on the photo and then click on Properties which would then show you:-
Examining this item the Address (URL) would be revealed as
“https://pbs.twimgDOTcom/media/DcfFALqUwAAE2AnDOTjpg”
I have now circumnavigated myself and arrived back, just in time for a fresh cup of coffee.
I guess most will already have this information.
I will now (soon, real soon now) work out how to extract video from Twitter.
I have no idea whether this will be of use to anybody. It kept me busy for a while.
Vic:
I was only thinking yesterday that prior to the Stormy Daniels affair nobody had heard of Avenatti, now he’s practically everywhere, and seemingly two steps ahead of everyone. This is why I was somewhat sceptical of him.
He must have investigators working this for him.
PhoenixRed
Avenatti could well be the chosen vehicle to exposure this whole shit show. Meanwhile over at team patriot, they have again mentioned the sex trafficking stuff.
There is an obvious strategy in play. If it were just about getting Trump, this whole thing would be done and dusted. It isn’t. They have their sights set on players in Russia, China, Israel, AUE, etc.
I really do need a white board!!!
@Mundo – 8 am.
I will have to go through the small detail of the Newspolls since the New England Byelection, but my strong impression is that Labor’s primary vote and that of the Greens has been remarkably consistent.
I also believe that a 2PP vote based on 2016 election preference distributions is similarly consistent.
The only real movements since the 2016 election in Neespolls has been the collapse and now partial recovery of the LNP Primary vote and the corresponding One Nation surge and now collapse. Also Truffles approval rating has been in free fall only to get a seeming bounce last night (perhaps because he is promising massive tax cuts to his true believers in a few years. However, this maybe just an outlier given the lack of a corresponding surge in other published polls).
That said, it is very clear that the movement in the headline 2PP is basically down to the changes in preference allocation which appears to be totally fudged and basically wrong.
Fess
As I said earlier, Avenatti is doing asymmetrical warfare. He appears super smart. I could be wrong, but My Feeling is that he is being guided.
Victoria says: Monday, May 14, 2018 at 8:37 am
PhoenixRed
Avenatti could well be the chosen vehicle to exposure this whole shit show. Meanwhile over at team patriot, they have again mentioned the sex trafficking stuff.
There is an obvious strategy in play. If it were just about getting Trump, this whole thing would be done and dusted. It isn’t. They have their sights set on players in Russia, China, Israel, AUE, etc.
I really do need a white board!!!
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The network of involved people and situations – be in money laundering, fraud, human trafficking, bribery, kickbacks – is beyond easy comprehension – it is possible to be the greatest crime ever ….
PhoenixRed
Peter Evans seems to have a handle on what is going on. His insights have given me some clarity.
https://mobile.twitter.com/911CORLEBRA777
One thing’s for certain, the Trump Imbroglio is way better than any suspense novel or movie!
https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/budget-tax-cuts-the-worst-piece-of-tax-policy-design-in-recent-history-20180513-p4zf00.html
Interesting. Irvine not holding back at all on tax. 🙂
Fess
It certainly is. And despite my very huge dislike for Turnbull, Bishop and Co., they are doing good in this space. JBishop gets maligned around here, but she has been working diligently with our allies. She hosted Hillary Clinton this week here in Australia. Party politics don’t come into it when national security is at stake.
lizzie says:
Monday, May 14, 2018 at 7:49 am
C@tmomma
I’m in heartfelt agreement with you. One OH used to give me the weekly ‘housekeeping’ and then dictate how and where I spent it.
Ever since we got married nearly fifty years ago, my wife has managed our finances, and she and I have had enough personal cash to (nominally) buy a couple of pairs of jeans each fortnight to spend as we will.
As jeans have risen in price, the amount went up. Now in fact, of course, we spend it on housekeeping costs most of the time, but it is invaluable when you want to buy something that is off the budget, do doubt unnecessary, but that you would really like.
I can recommend the method, even if it is only a very small amount, say $50 a fortnight.
Like the use of a car navigator, it helps the marriage!
I watched. It is video footage of those photos he tweeted earlier.
@Victoria – Yes, because pissing off China is great for our national security.
Vic:
Party politics should never come into international relations. That’s why Abbott was and Trump is so destructive to world affairs.
Fess
I watched it too.
Avenatti is basically stating that “he knows what you did last summer”
Lol!
don
For me, keeping separate accounts is the only way to go, even if one person really does the ‘overall managing’.
“She hosted Hillary Clinton this week here in Australia. Party politics don’t come into it when national security is at stake”.
She hosted Hillary Clinton this week here in Australia. Party politics don’t come into it when warmongering and the military industrial complex is at stake.
Sohar
if you don’t appreciate our western culture, perhaps you could move to a place more to your liking. The world is a big place. Lots of options to choose from
Fairfax poll
Assuming 50-50 split of PHONy vote is too generous for ALP, voter preferences still gives 53-47 to ALP when compared to 51-49 as per Newspoll.
Correct me if I am wrong, Isn’t Newspoll part owned by Murdoch?
If so, is something fishy going on at Newspoll?
Having said that the poll 57% people want national debt to be paid make sense. Why?
Say you have mortgage on your home.
You would want to pay as much as you can even something extra in you good times so that your debt can be paid off in good time so that if you loose your job or some other bad thing happenned, you can ask your bank for reduction in payments or deffer the payment.
The advantage of paying more in good times, you will be paying lesser and lesser interest as time goes by and hence in bad times you burden will not be more.
KayJay @ #175 Monday, May 14th, 2018 – 8:34 am
Thank you KayJay. I use Opera and get a similar result by selecting “Copy image address” directly from the right-click menu.
My son is off to study in Kuching, Sarawak (at the Swinburne campus) for six weeks in June/July. Anyone got any tips?
Victoria says:
WRT to Jess Irwine article in SMH,
We should have 2 more tax rates between 32.5 & 47
19% up to 45k
32.5 up to 90k
36 up to 150%
40 up to 250k
47 over 250k
“The military industrial complex, love it or leave it” am I right? Sheesh
Poroti snap!