The Courier-Mail has a Queensland-only YouGov Galaxy poll of federal voting intention (presumably state results from the same poll will follow tomorrow or the next day), and it records the Coalition with a 52-48 lead, which compares with a 54.1-45.9 result at the 2016 election. This is unchanged from the last such poll in early February, although that result was stronger for the Coalition than other polling from Queensland. The primary votes in the latest poll are Coalition 40% (41% in the February poll, 43.2% at the election), Labor 33% (32% and 30.9%), Greens 10% (10% and 8.8%) and One Nation 10% (9% and 5.5% from ten seats contested). Other findings from the poll:
Other questions related to the budget: 39% said the budget will make them better off, compared with 32% for worse off; 26% think Labor would have delivered a better budget, with 51% for the negative; 39% said it would be good for Queensland, and 28% bad; 21% said it would make them more likely to vote Coalition, 17% less likely and 57% no influence; 46% said Malcolm Turnbull and the Coalition had “the best long-term plan for Australia’s future” compared with 31% for Bill Shorten and Labor; and Scott Morrison led Chris Bowen as preferred treasurer 38% to 23%. The poll was conducted Wednesday and Thursday from a sample of 900.
It’s a bit out of date now, but let the record note that the latest BludgerTrack update had Labor up two seats in Victoria and down one in Western Australia following some quirky state breakdown results, but recorded next to no change on national voting intention. This was all based on this week’s Essential Research poll, which also included a new set of leadership numbers. There will presumably be a lot more post-budget polling to come over the next few days.
Also noted:
• The state council of the Liberal Party has announced it will not be fielding candidates in the by-elections for Fremantle (not surprising) and Perth (very surprising). The party’s Twitter account says is “will not be distracted by Bill Shorten’s duplicity and dishonesty”, and will instead devote its energies to the state by-election in Darling Range. Jessica Strutt of the ABC reports the candidate is likely to be Rob Coales, Serpentine-Jarrahdale councillor and candidate for Thornlie at the state election. If so they will be overlooking Alyssa Hayden, who unexpectedly lost her upper house seat to One Nation last year, and again be exhibiting their lack of concern for anything resembling gender parity.
• A poll of 1277 respondents in Longman, conducted on Thursday night by ReachTEL for The Australia Institute, gives a remarkably strong result for the Coalition, who lead 53-47 on respondent-allocated two-party preferred from primary votes of Coalition 36.7% (39.0% at the election) and Labor 32.5% (35.4%).
• Jane Prentice has lost Liberal National Party preselection for her Brisbane seat of Ryan to Brisbane councillor Julian Simmonds, and the Liberal state council meeting in Western Australia appears set to take over the preselection process in Moore to protect Ian Goodenough from four challengers (Andres Timmermanis, John Raftis, Paul Miles and Robert Marie).
Tristo speaks for himself/herself here……………………………..
Ides
Yes there had been rumours about Prentice. Probably not a wise move but who knows
For those not in Brisbane you will not quite understand the nature of Ryan as a seat. It includes the major University and all the associated voting patterns, a key business district where all the IT firms operate, the richest hobby farm zones where there is wealth and ponies, some pockets of strait out rural farms several struggling outer suburban areas,one housing commission area with a significant indigenous population, several leafy green wealthy neo hippy suburbs – inner city type ones, an area a bit like Strathfield or Camberwell and some leafy green upper middle class suburban areas.
In short it has the bloody lot.
In 15 out of 38 booths the Greens got a higher vote than Labor. Labor did very badly last election. Which was sad. Very nice candidate but maybe not much oomph. More to the point I think Prentice did exceptionally well
She won booths that she should not have won. Heartland ALP type booths
From previous thread.
bemused (Block)
Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 4:37 pm
Comment #863
C@tmomma @ #809 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 2:33 pm
adrian @ #788 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:48 pm
bemused @ #779 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:30 pm
lizzie @ #709 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 8:22 am
Kon KarapanagiotidisVerified account @Kon__K · 11h11 hours ago
In a week where 5 women have been killed in Australia this week I want you all to remember @TurnbullMalcolm committed more money to a statute (sic) of Captain Cook than new funding for #DV and Sexual Assault Services & Prevention in #Budget18
So the lives of men and boys don’t matter.
Sick!
Seven people died. 4 were children.
What a ridiculous conclusion to draw!
Maybe you should join the Moronic Posters on PB Club. I’m sure that extremely senior President and CEO Borewar will accept your membership application.
Exactly. Especially as the only person who hasn’t been mentioned as being one of the murder victims is the MALE husband and father of the children.
WRONG as usual.
From previous thread.
bemused (Block)
Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 4:46 pm
Comment #864
steve davis @ #824 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 3:09 pm
I cant believe how someone could kill all his family in that way.Why couldn’t he have sought professional help or just took his own life?Heartbreaking stuff.
I have discussed this with a Mental Health professional who explained that it can arise from a type of depression where the perpetrator decides the world is too terrible to live in or to leave loved ones to live in. So they take their family with them.
Ghastly.
Incomprehensible.
From previous thread.
bemused (Block)
Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 4:48 pm
Comment #865
Boerwar @ #825 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 3:13 pm
OK, some more facts.
The killer owned three (3) licenced ‘long arm’ weapons. This means not pistols but three rifles and/or shotguns.
Who needs three death dealing weapons like that?
Farmers.
I’m linking this again because it’s important to know the truth.
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/news/environment/2018/05/12/fuel-reduction-smokescreen-logging-burns/15260472006217?cb=1526108343
lizzie
You raise some good points there.
While the rationale for the control burns is to save lives, they never do a life-for-life comparison of the impact of control burns on hospital admissions and premature mortality.
The only real game in town here is that the control burns are being driven by the property insurance industry.
Vic:
Plenty have noted the obvious that Trump isn’t draining the swamp so much as increasing it to whole new levels of swamp, but I thought Maher’s statement that New York ‘isn’t sending us their best people’ was so ridiculously a statement of the obvious that it needs repeating. The federal govt has been taken over by the worst of the worst low rent thugs from New York.
Am reading Jim Comeys book – half way through -and am struck by his commitment to truth, honesty and candour. He talks about his weaknesses and his failures and his attempts to better himself. It’s a trait of his private life, and is at the core of every public role he has held.
Religion and family play a central role in his decision making.
I can understand now so clearly why Trump fired him. And I can now understand why Trump’s election as President has forever changed the standing that the once United States of America has in this shrinking world.
Trump is a clear and present danger to world cohesion, to world peace and humanities values.
Trump surrounds himself with moral scum. He acts without moral compass. That will be his legacy, and world will be a lesser place, wether he is beaten, impeached or is even re-elected.
Doesn’t look great – Labor needs to start cutting through with its message.
I was on the Council of Environment Victoria – roughly 25 years ago. Then they were saying the same thing, using what appeared to be valid economic analysis. How long must we wait for politicians with a long-term view?
phylactella
The SOP is that it will keep going until there is no native forest worth felling left. At which point they will declare a Yuuge Bold move into ‘environmentally friendly’ , ‘sustainable’ plantation forestry and award themselves gold stars.
Hmmm. I just noticed my C+ extension is no longer working – but only on this thread! I just reloaded the previous thread and it still works fine on that one 🙁
Anyone else seeing this?
Al Pal:
I follow Comey on Instagram and he has this amusing knack of taking massive pot shots at the Trump administration without appearing to be doing so at all. Just a guy posting photos on his social media account.
Very clever.
phylactella
Yes, we knew that forestry must come to an end, but somehow the pollies have handed over their power to the loggers. The excuse that they are saving jobs is wearing very thin against the value of the trees/vegetation/habitat they are destroying.
The term ‘aspirationals’, certainly comes across as ‘grasping’, articles in Fairfax and from what I saw in the GG, had subtext, these people have done well and ‘deserve’ to be rewarded. Anyone who says different is proclaiming ‘politics of envy’.
The Fairfax article had timeline charts showing the ALP plan would leave the middle income earners better off initially but would be overhauled in 2021 or 2022 by the coalition plan. The article was reporting a study they had commissioned but Labor cannot and should not, compete in such a mercenary contest.
P1:
All good for me, everything A-Okay.
Confessions @ #17 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:36 pm
How odd! Maybe it will fix itself once we get to more than 50 posts. I have noticed before that it does odd things on the first page 🙁
Player One @ #13 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:35 pm
Working as usual for me – Both Firefox and Chrome – Windows 10.
Perhaps click on the icon and Save then F5.
Does we know how YouGov is treating the KnowNothing Party prefs? Same as newspoll?
46% said Malcolm Turnbull and the Coalition had “the best long-term plan for Australia’s future” compared with 31% for Bill Shorten and Labor; and Scott Morrison led Chris Bowen as preferred treasurer 38% to 23%.
Unfu*king-believable.
I don’t know why the ALP bother sometimes.
The country is full of ungrateful, dumbarse morons.
They deserve the Coalition.
I sense another column on gender diversity in the coalition ranks coming on.
John Reidy says:
From the time The Rodent held them up as some sort of ideal their supposed characteristics caused me to adopt the term ‘Grasperationals’.
Mundo, and if you asked them what that “plan” was, they would have no fu… idea either.
mundo @ #21 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:52 pm
They must believe the shit that the media pretend is news.
The MSM are the masters of seemingly benign propaganda, and many voters buy it hook, line and sinker.
Labor should say it supports everyone who aspires to have a decent life.
mundo @ #12 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:52 pm
My investigation into this matter reveals that the dumbarse morons get whatever few morsels of information they do receive – from other dumbarse morons or from Newspapers owned/controlled by one Rupert Murdock or from Television. Few take night classes in critical thinking.
What the answer is I know not.
I do know that I do not want the ALP to give up.
Finally. Nobody deserves the Coalition.
Goodnight all. 💤💤💤
It just goes to show slick and shallow and sneaky and smarmy, and just plain nasty, politics and politicians will Trump decency and deep and thoughtful policies and politicians these days.
To use an Australian colloquialism, it’s the politics of ‘Bugger you, I’m all right Jack!’ Therefore they think they need to be rewarded for ‘succeeding’ in this environment. Altruism appears to be on life support in Australia.
ANTONBRUCKNER11
Ah yes, ‘The Plan”. Abbott’s crew had claims of having “a plan” on very high rotation yet we never actually got told what those plans were. Of course our presstitutes never pressed them on just what “we have a plan” actually entailed. But rest assured the had a plan.
Julian Simmonds 256 : Jane Prentice 103
poroti @ #29 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 5:08 pm
I remember being mailed a copy of The Plan ahead of the 2013 election. It was nothing more than a 5 or so page glossy booklet featuring images of Tony Abbott Looking At Things, but most importantly photos of him sat in an airplane staring out the window.
C@t:
Did you really think it would go any other way?
Will O’Dwyer be next?
Confessions
😀 Tones inspired by the Kim Jong Un . There was an internet meme a while back of “Kim Jong Un Looking at Things”.
The above Galaxy poll was conducted on Wednesay and Thursday, after the budget itself was delivered but before the budget reply from Shorten.
Therefore the budget questions re ” best long term plan ” etc are interesting. Respondents had the government ” plan ” but nothing really with which to compare it from labor. The government picture v the labor blank canvas at the time of the poll.
Labor does not seem to have suffered much politically from the lack of a competing economic vision with its primary vote actually increasing by 1 and the government down by 1.
Given the full on get Shorten on Wednesday and Thursday and the fact Shorten had not delivered his budget reply at the time this poll was conducted I think this poll is a pretty flat result for Turnbull.
Upcoming polls conducted from Thursday onwards which will flow in coming days may be more informative if people out in the real world, in fact, really care or perhaps it is too early after the ” events “to make any real assumptions at this point.
Disclaimer : As a complete amateur my above post could well be complete rubbish and, as such, ripe for ripping apart from more informed posters.
Cheers and a hood night to all.
My advice to female LNPers
Get one of these to get ahead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NQBPgJQhQHc
poroti:
http://tonyabbottlookingatthings.tumblr.com/
His visit to The Reject Shop was notable for his positioning and being photographed under the shop sign, which featured in msm if I remember correctly. 🙂
This one is memorable given recent events, and criticisms in yesterday’s Crikey that Australia wasn’t stern enough with the former Malaysian leader.
Confessions
yes that was good. Thanks for the link. I had not seen this one before 😆
Confessions @ #32 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 7:12 pm
I just saw a report on the ABC about the pre-selection meeting today to decide the outcome of the contest and the antediluvian President of the LNP said that Ms Prentice is in her 60s and it was time for a younger person to take her place! It sounded like he was talking about putting an old cow out to pasture!
I also clearly remember that nothing like that is ever said about any of the old men of the Liberal Party and LNP, such as Phillip Ruddock, Ian MacDonald, John Howard!
poroti @ #23 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:59 pm
And that f*****g idiot Latham was right into it too.
‘Pigs arse’ was also a good one.
poroti:
There have def been some good pics over the years of Abbott unintentionally presenting lolworthy photo ops.
One last observation before crawling into bed with a good book.
Given WA is the home state of Corman and Bishop, one the Finance minister and the other deputy liberal leader, the decision today to not contest Freemantle and Perth ( the big surprise ) is interesting. No bang for their buck from the budget ?
Cheers.
bemused
The Pomgolians have a term “sharp elbowed middle class” . The ‘Grasperationals’ may be their Antipodean equivalent.
From previous thread.
bemused (Block)
Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 4:48 pm
Comment #865
Boerwar @ #825 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 3:13 pm
OK, some more facts.
The killer owned three (3) licenced ‘long arm’ weapons. This means not pistols but three rifles and/or shotguns.
Who needs three death dealing weapons like that?
Farmers.
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bemused I don’t know what you are trying to say, it is unintelligible.
Break it up into paragraphs attributed to whoever wrote them, otherwise it is total stream of consciousness.
C@t:
Yep, the coalition partyroom is awash with pale, male and stale yet whenever talk turns to a refresh of them for younger fresher talent, we always hear talk the likes of what great service they’ve given and deserve respect for their years (decades) in parliament, or they’re a party stalwart and still have a great deal to contribute.
It’s the same old double standard for women. You’re held to standards your male counterparts never have to meet for as long as they continue to satisfy that invisible yet invasive criteria of the Old Boy’s Network.
Confessions
I thought the demise of The Rodent would be the end of a ‘golden age’ for cartoonists. How wrong I was.
Doyley:
I think the decision is more financial than anything else. Why waste resources on a seat you aren’t likely to win when you can conserve your resources for the general election itself?
“Ah yes, ‘The Plan”. Abbott’s crew had claims of having “a plan” on very high rotation yet we never actually got told what those plans were.”
They were in the 2014 Budget.
And current plans will become known in the 2019 Budget if the voters give them another go.