YouGov Galaxy budget polling: Robertson, Chisholm, Herbert

Modestly encouraging results for the governments in post-budget electorate polls, plus latest developments on the by-election front.

Nine News has results of post-budget polling of three federal marginal seats, these being automated phone polls conducted by YouGov Galaxy.

• In the seat of Robertson on the central coast of New South Wales, the Liberals are credited with a 52-48 lead on two-party preferred, little changed from Lucy Wicks’ 1.1% winning margin in 2016. Primary votes are Liberal 44% (44.7% at the election), Labor 37% (38.4%), Greens 6% (8.4%) and One Nation 7%. Twenty-four per cent rated the budget would make them better off, 20% worse off and 48% no difference; 42% supported the government’s company tax cuts, and an equal share opposed the. The sample for the Robertson poll was 514.

• In the seat of Chisholm in Melbourne’s south-east, which was the one seat gained by the Coalition from Labor in 2016, the score is 50-50, compared with a 1.2% winning margin for Liberal member Julia Banks in 2016. The primary votes are Liberal 44% (45.3%), Labor 38% (35.9%), Greens 9% (12.3%) and One Nation 3%. Twenty-six per cent said the budget would make them better off, 23% worse off and 43% no difference; 32% supported, and 50% opposed, the company tax cuts. Sample: 539.

• In the Townsville-based seat of Herbert, which Cathy O’Toole gained Labor by a handful of votes in 2016, the Liberal National Party is credited with a 51-49 lead, from primary votes of Labor 34% (30.5%), LNP 38% (35.5%), One Nation 19% (13.5%) and Greens 3% (6.3%). Sample: 554.

I also offer the following by-election news. If you would like to leave a comment on the by-election that’s not going to get lost in the flow, I can recommend this thread. See also the links to detailed guides for all five seats featured on the sidebar.

The West Australian reports Labor’s federal executive will today anoint the party’s candidate in Perth, which will almost certainly be its state secretary, Patrick Gorman. Prominent lawyer and former Cottesloe mayor John Hammond has also nominated, but it may be presumed that Gorman has the numbers. It was reported that an alternative scheme might involve Senator Louise Pratt contesting the seat, and her Senate vacancy going to Gorman. However, Latika Bourke of Fairfax reported yesterday that the plan had not found the favour of the Australian Manufacturing and Workers Union, the Left faction union that has long been Pratt’s power base.

• The Courier-Mail reports the Liberal National Party preselection in Longman is likely to be contested by Trevor Ruthenberg, who held the state seat of Kallangur from 2012 to 2015 and is now chief executive of the Mosaic Property Group’s philanthropic foundation, and Jason Snow, a disability support worker. One Nation has endorsed Caboolture small businessman Matthew Stephen, despite the controversy that attended his run for the state seat of Sandgate, in which it emerged he had repeatedly had his trades licence suspended, narrowly avoided bankruptcy, and was prone to politically incorrect utterances on social media.

The Mercury reports that a Liberal internal poll gave the party a 53-47 lead on federal voting intention in Braddon. However, it was also noted that the poll had a small sample and, as Kevin Bonham observes, the result may have been contaminated by the Liberals’ easy victory at the March state election. (UPDATE: Kevin Bonham explains in comments that I don’t have the right end of the handle here. “The 53 for the Liberals in Braddon in their internal poll sample is the primary not the 2PP. Labor was on 20 and the Greens were on 15. Hence (and there are other reasons too) my rubbishing of it whenever I have been asked. And that was the seat sample from a state sample of 756, so probably only about 150 voters.”)

• The Australian today stirs the pot on the eligibility of Cowan MP Anne Aly, who has only been able to provide a letter from the Egyptian embassy acknowledging its receipt of her application to renounce her citizenship dated two months before the 2016 election (UPDATE: Aly has today produced a letter from the Egyptian embassy that would appear to put the matter to rest).

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

865 comments on “YouGov Galaxy budget polling: Robertson, Chisholm, Herbert”

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  1. NBN complaint !

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    This should apply 24hrs / day … everyday whether you are connected / using or not.
    You signed up for avalibilty of service .
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    I’ll recommend this action to my local member … Turnbull

  2. Jen,

    You’re right. I’m not really intereted. Nevertheless… it’s late and I’m bored, and I could do with a discussion of some esoteric subject. So, could you give me the Readers’ Digest version?

  3. “I grasp that not everyone is a Douglas Adams fan, but I still thought the reactions were a bit OTT.”

    And then, one Thursday, nearly two thousand years after one man had been nailed to a tree for saying how great it would be to be nice to people for a change, a girl sitting on her own in a small café in Rickmansworth suddenly realized what it was that had been going wrong all this time, and she finally knew how the world could be made a good and happy place. This time it was right, it would work, and no one would have to get nailed to anything.

    — Douglas Adams, The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy.

  4. Jäger,

    Exactly. Such a shame her world was demolished to make way for a hyperspace bypass (or whatever it was, since I’m going on memory and it’s a long time since I read it) before she could explain her revelation.

  5. jenauthor @ #650 Friday, May 11th, 2018 – 11:31 pm

    The ancient ram god was a depiction of of Amen/Amon/Amun from ancient Egypt, who finishes every Christian prayer. Predates the Jews and biblical stories.

    Much of Jewish tradition is from the Babylonian ‘sojourn’ as Geoffrey says above – though I do not believe it had anything to do with an exodus – but that it a long-winded explanation that few here would likely be interested in

    😆

    Amen is Greek for verily.

    Tom.

  6. “I think that Jehova would normally be classed as a sky god, as would his forerunners such as Atep etc – the Sun gods, which I believe is still part of the Yazidi religion.”

    actually am not sure the sky god classification is normal at all – the jewish god is not imperial or conceived in terms of the pagan mega-deities that oppressed them in Babylon – there is a deep agnosticism in jewish belief – that god does not answer entreaties, that god is not rational or known or depicted in any natural or perceptual form – hence ‘sky god’ might be misnomer

    it’s too late not to tell hawkins but such nuances of religious tradition would be beyond his determination to simplistically debunk

  7. Ante Meridian @ #649 Friday, May 11th, 2018 – 8:28 pm

    I’d just like to say that I have no idea why P1 was blasted for quoting Hitchhikers’ Guide To The Galaxy.

    I grasp that not everyone is a Douglas Adams fan, but I still thought the reactions were a bit OTT.

    I also think that maybe crawling out of the oceans might have been a dud move.

    No problem with Hitchhiker’s quotes, I’m guilty as charged, the issue was her initial response.

    You don’t really have a sense of humour at all, do you? This is something you might want to work on.

    Implying it was obvious she was making a joke, so what’s your problem.

    No reference to Hichhiker’s, so someone not blessed with being acquainted with Adams’ work would be none the wiser and be thinking, what’s she going on about.

  8. Andrew_Earlwood @ #647 Friday, May 11th, 2018 – 11:20 pm

    DTT. Your Vijay-jay is not the issue. Just that make shit up as a make weight between ascertainable facts and your theory of whatever subject you are banging on about. Take as but one example your theory that Rudd couldn’t have called a DD in January-February 2010. First you claimed that Gillard and Swan were agin the CRPS and hence wouldn5 support a DD called on the issue. When I pointed out that their views related to the period after Rudd himself ruled calling a DD but left the CRPS hanging in the breeze for several months as something for Abbott to have a free kick, you then start banging on about the supposed views of Crean and Ferguson and how that was somehow decisive. As if Rudd gave anything more than zero fucks about the opinion of those two plonkers, even if there was any evidence of what you say. Which there is none. Then you started to rabbit on about how the left were onside with the CRPS but not the right. Again, In January 2010 Bitar and Arbib – both from the NSW Right, recommended calling the DD. As did Gillard his deputy from the left. Of course, none of that matters because you where making shit up as you go.

    Basically on every post that I have bothered to read, you may start off sane, but then the mad woman comes out and you make shit up. A few posts ago you posited that the celts were female centric. Oh those Druids. Such feminists. While it is true that some Celtic fertility rights were female centric, basically that could be said of most European cultures of equivalent period. So what. The rest of those cultures, including the celts, were basically appalling in their attitudes towards women. But hey, making shit up is your speciality. In America conservative talk show hosts would call you a truth teller. …

    In the process you completely loop out.

    You are on the right track about one thing however. The Shiraz I’m quaffing is particulary good tonight. In vino veritas.

    Andrew

    You cannot conduct a rational discussion and tun every minor point into a a cause celebre to attack me.

    You are just ignorant and silly to suggest that Crean and Ferguson were not opposed to the ETS. They were from the Melbourne manufacturing unions and of bloody course they opposed the Carbon price because it was all about jobs (possibly for Ma’arn less noble issues too). You could hardly cause either plonkers and both were extremely powerful factional players. Even you should understand that in January 2009 the following represented the factional make up of the caucus.

    Obviously the NSW right with the Sussex St mob (Bitar, Arbib) have great influence with probably Tony Burke being the key player from NSW. Closely aligned were the right in WA (Stephen Smith) and the AWU (Swan). In Victoria the key person was Conroy. Crean was a player too. Then there was the left which was pretty split but key power brokers were Feguson, Kim Carr, Gillard on one side and Tanner, Faulkner and Albo on the other.

    Now in January 2010 when Rudd was being pressured for a DD what you can say is that he had most but not all of the left behind him solidly (ie not Ferguson and with Gillard a little wobbly).In terms of the obvious right eg Smith and Conroy and Burke, I have no clear idea about where they stood, but if you are even a little reasonable you will agree that while possibly not opposed to the ETS strongly they were also not enthusiastic supporters. Based on my knowledge of the trio I think they would have been more opposed that supporting. Like their mentor Keating they were not enthusiastic supporters of the Balmain basket weavers.

    So the only RATIONAL difference between my position and yours is the view of Swan and the AWU faction.

    You maintain that they were supportive of a DD in January and that Rudd ignored their advice. Perhaps you have better inside information than I do about the attitude of the AWU faction, but I think I am on solid ground is saying that while they may not have been actively opposed they were not 100% solid supporting either.

    If they HAD been supportive of the ETS they would not have ditched it so quickly after Gillard came to power, (It as later resurrected of course but only because of the hung parliament)

    Also I think you must be a little naive. Surely from December on (actually November) the number of people with cold feet was growing and this would certainly have included some influential people within the AWU faction.

    My point stands

    In a Cabinet of 20 Rudd had strong support from Tanner, Faulkner, Albo, Wong, Evans and Macklin although the last 3 while great are not really power brokers. He had opposition from two heavy weights – Crean and Ferguson and probably (I am not sure on these Conroy and Carr).

    Now then we are left with just considering Gillard and Swan. Sure they were members of the inner four and powerful, but I do not feel that either was a strong supporter of the ETS. If Rudd had gone for a DD their support would have been a little lacklustre. Gillard was close to Ferguson and Swan increasingly under pressure from the AWU and the mining interests.

    In any case Andrew your reaction was way over the top and offensive. Perhaps it was the ranting of a mad man eh what. We are arguing over the views in cabinet 8 years ago. My point is in any case simply that while Rudd may have been too cautious, the criticism is unduly harsh given the number and power of the doubters within Cabinet.

  9. It’s highly likely that slavery had its origins in the development of agricultural economies. Slavery…the concept of personal property…rules of inheritance…patriarchy…

  10. Tom,

    Now all you have to do is explain what the freak “verily” means.

    (Yes, yes. I know. I was joking, okay. I know the joke wasn’t very funny, but the basis was that you are explaining the meaning of one old archaic word that nobody uses anymore by eqating it to another archaic word that nobody uses anymore. Geddit? Please don’t subject me to a torrent of abuse for not being funny.)

  11. barney
    the issue was not whether adams was read or sense of humour
    it was passing comment that whatever point adams was making of it the idea of human ancestors living in trees is actually quite widespread as one evolutionary narrative and is most probably indeed definitely wrong. the rejoinder of what is a preferred evolutionary narrative remains wide open. normal discussion nothing about humour. some obnoxious soul seems to want to score points on anything above all, not discuss

  12. Jen

    Are people really calling on Amen when they finish prayers!!!

    The horned god was also prevalent in Europe- Horne the Hunter etc and the wild ride! –

    I assume you have read the Dark is Rising series etc.

  13. Ante Meridian @ #660 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:10 am

    Tom,

    Now all you have to do is explain what the freak “verily” means.

    (Yes, yes. I know. I was joking, okay. I know the joke wasn’t very funny, but the basis was that you are explaining the meaning of one old archaic word that nobody uses anymore by eqating it to another archaic word that nobody uses anymore. Geddit? Please don’t subject me to a torrent of abuse for not being funny.)

    All good, a have a verily developed sense of humour which is greater than my sense of my self value 🙂

    Tom.

  14. geoffrey @ #662 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:12 am

    barney
    the issue was not whether adams was read or sense of humour
    it was passing comment that whatever point adams was making of it the idea of human ancestors living in trees is actually quite widespread as one evolutionary narrative and is most probably indeed definitely wrong. the rejoinder of what is a preferred evolutionary narrative remains wide open. normal discussion nothing about humour. some obnoxious soul seems to want to score points on anything above all, not discuss

    Just to prove that I really am a nut case i must admit to having slight leaning towards the aquatic ape theory. But I have not read up on this for a long time so maybe it has been fully debunked.

    I was (am ) a firm mutiregionalist and was attacked by many, many people. So pleased to have been proven right now that we know we have Neanderthal and Desisovan DNA

  15. Ante Meridian @ #660 Friday, May 11th, 2018 – 9:10 pm

    Tom,

    Now all you have to do is explain what the freak “verily” means.

    (Yes, yes. I know. I was joking, okay. I know the joke wasn’t very funny, but the basis was that you are explaining the meaning of one old archaic word that nobody uses anymore by eqating it to another archaic word that nobody uses anymore. Geddit? Please don’t subject me to a torrent of abuse for not being funny.)

    According to my Cambridge, it means to do something in a completely honest way!

    Sounds a bit out of place in a book like the bible! 🙂

  16. daretotread. @ #669 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:19 am

    Tom @ #665 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:16 am

    briefly @ #661 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 12:12 am

    jeez, dtt posts rubbish…

    What? You actually read ? I thought you would’ve learnt by now. You must be a sucker for punishment. As soon as I see the length of a DDT post, I avoid it.

    Tom

    Is that because you cannot read?

    Anyway I clearly must have masochistic tendencies but must close down my ritual mental beatings for the evenings.

    I really do hope you end your mental beatings of posters on this site.

  17. Tom…I occasionally try a sentence or two….invariably give up.

    I usually overlook the second t in the name and take it as an advisory statement.

  18. Amun/Amen became the supreme god before the New Kindom of Egypt.

    Potted version for Ante Meridian:

    The so-called ‘exodus’ were the elite (Yahuds) who lived at Amarna and were left high and dry after Pharaoh Akhenaten died. They were rich and refused to give up their newfound wealth so two generals were sent by Ay (Adon-Ay, or, Divine Father Ay – was one of his titles) negotiate a bargain for their safe passage away from Egypt. The generals were Pa-Ra-Mesu (who later became Ramses I, and after the Babylonian interment known as Moses) and A-Hor-On (who later became Pharaoh Horemheb, and was later known as Aaron).

    These two escorted the elite part way to the northern lands promised to them after a long drawn out bargaining period. Moses was called back when Tut-Ankh-Amun died (70 days up the mountain and returned with the tablets depicting the cartouche of the new Pharaoh, Ay).

    Ay only lasted a couple of years and Horemheb and Moses had a struggle for power. Horemheb became Pharaoh an made laws (which later became known as 10 commandments – the cartouche and these laws became confused over generations of story-telling).

    Ay was revered by the refugees and was worshipped as Adonai much later. As was Moses (Ramses I) as he was responsible for safe passage northward.

  19. Here’s my favourite piece of music of all time. Enjoy, or don’t, as per your whim.

    Good choice; how many videos did you go through to find a good one? (Speaking from experience e.g. Top of the Pops truncation.)

  20. Amun predated the Jews and Greeks by 1000 years and lasted another 1000. He was the grand arbiter god (but was unseen or hidden).

    The Jewish ‘tabernacle’ description is almost a perfect description of one of the Karnak temples.

    And anyone who has seen the booty found in Tut’s tomb would have seen an ark like that described in the “ark of the Covenant”.

    During the captivity of the refugees from Amarna in Babylon, they rewrote their histories to make Egypt the ‘bad guy’ to suit the political situation between Egypt and Babylon at the time. That period lasted a couple of generations so the stories became entrenched

  21. Jäger,

    I remembered it from my now distant youth and searched for it by name. It was always my favourite.

    By the way, I hope the way I spell your name (with the umlaut) is acceptable. I just kind of assumed it’s German, but as we all know, we should never assume.

  22. Amun… was the grand arbiter god (but was unseen or hidden).

    He was “verily” embodied (even if hidden). Hence the Greek “Amen.”

  23. Jen,

    That all sounds plausible. It’s all so distant in time, those events could easily become distorted and given a mystic narrative.

    I was hoping I could come up with something more insightful to say, but that’s about it really.

  24. jen,

    I may have mentioned it before but I went to Amarna when I was in Egypt.

    Not much left but when you see the scale of the city it’s impressive to think what was established in such a short time.

    The stories out of it are wonderful, leading to such names as Nefertiti, Tutankhamen and the beginning of the Ramses era.

    I saw one book proposing that Moses was Akhenaten fleeing with his followers as the priests chased them down finally catching up with them at Mt Nebo and returning Akhenaten to Egypt.

  25. Connected reporter says Trump enjoys almost nothing about his job — except the Diet Coke bell

    According to well connected New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman, the answer is, “No.”

    In an interview with Slate, Haberman says that Trump mostly doesn’t like being president, although he does enjoy some of the perks that come along with it.

    “I have never thought he is enjoying this job,” she said. “I think he enjoys the title Mr. President. I think he enjoys Air Force One, Marine One, the big car, having a lot of Secret Service, his Diet Coke bell, all of that stuff.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/connected-reporter-says-trump-enjoys-almost-nothing-job-except-diet-coke-bell/

  26. Mueller now investigating millions of dollars worth of Russia-linked donations to Trump’s inaugural committee

    Special counsel Robert Mueller is now probing millions of dollars donated to President Donald Trump’s inaugural committee — including many made by donors connected to Russia and Middle Eastern countries.

    “According to a source who has sat with the Mueller team for interviews in recent weeks, the special counsel is examining donors who have either business or personal connections in Russia, Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Qatar,” the report reads. “Several donors with those ties contributed large sums to the non-profit fundraising entity – gifts that topped out at $1 million dollars, according to public records.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/mueller-now-investigating-millions-dollars-worth-russia-linked-donations-trumps-inaugural-committee/

  27. Good Morning Bludgers 🙂

    I think we may have turned the tide of the Liberal’s Nasty Names project wrt Bill Shorten. They can’t help to have noticed all the wunnerful names Bushfire Bill started us off with yesterday and which went off! like a bushfire 😉 on Twitter when I posted them.

    Just goes to show, the PB workers, united, will never be defeated!

  28. Paula Mathewson

    On 20 occasions in Australian history, the Speaker has decided not to call a byelection because there was “an impending general election”.

    The longest time between a seat becoming vacant and a general election being held is currently 128 days or about four months.

    If the government held off the five byelections and called a general election for August instead, that would be around three months. So it is a live option for the PM.

    Like many things in contemporary Australian politics, this decision will probably be determined by the opinion polls.

    The government wouldn’t expect a dramatic bounce in the polls from the budget, but would anticipate a further tightening of the race now that voters have more information on which to judge the two major parties.

    If that happens, Mr Turnbull may well decide that his best chance is to call a federal election sooner rather than later.

    But if the five byelections are called in the next few days, we’ll know the PM has judged the potential cost of losing them is less than that of sending all Australians to the polls.

    https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2018/05/11/federal-election-sooner-than-expected/

  29. C@tmomma @ #686 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 6:53 am

    Good Morning Bludgers 🙂

    I think we may have turned the tide of the Liberal’s Nasty Names project wrt Bill Shorten. They can’t help to have noticed all the wunnerful names Bushfire Bill started us off with yesterday and which went off! like a bushfire 😉 on Twitter when I posted them.

    Just goes to show, the PB workers, united, will never be defeated!

    Sticks and stones.BRING IN THE STICKS AND STONES.QUICKLY!

  30. Sticks and stones.BRING IN THE STICKS AND STONES.QUICKLY!

    I hope you’re talking about a putative Liberal thought and not your own thoughts, Graeme! 😡 😯 😕

  31. jenauthor says:
    Friday, May 11, 2018 at 11:31 pm
    The ancient ram god was a depiction of of Amen/Amon/Amun from ancient Egypt, who finishes every Christian prayer. Predates the Jews and biblical stories.

    Thank you, I did not know that. I have several photos of sculptures and paintings of Amon, and never connected it with christianity.

  32. Apparently, there’s no actual evidence of a connection between Amun/Amen. Apparently it’s in the ‘they sound the same so they must be connected’ class of theories.

  33. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    In a quite good article Peter Hartcher says that Labor’s budget reply outwitted the government on the politics and outmanoeuvred the government on the economics.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/bowen-seizes-chance-to-make-history-20180511-p4zeph.html
    A Commonwealth Bank loans officer who perpetrated a $3.5 million fraud on the bank and spent up big on cocaine, “lots of girls” and fine dining, was never reported to police, allowing him to continue working in the financial services sector. FFS!
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cocaine-girls-million-dollar-fraud-what-the-commonwealth-bank-lender-did-next-20180511-p4zeqt.html
    Peter Martin writes that suddenly the tax choice is clear.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/suddenly-the-tax-choice-is-clear-20180511-p4zet1.html
    David Crowe tells us that Labor has gained a short-term edge over the Coalition in a crucial political fight over the fairness of radical income tax reform, with the first economic verdicts showing an emphatic gain for more workers under the Labor plan.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/the-verdicts-are-in-on-who-gains-the-most-from-rival-income-tax-plans-20180511-p4zesw.html
    In a long article Pontificating Paul Kelly says that to prevail, Malcolm Turnbull must destroy Shorten’s credibility with a campaign his government is usually incapable of mustering.
    https://outline.com/9J6NJ9
    Morrison’s budget has filed to inspire Paul Bongiorno.
    https://outline.com/NjRHEJ
    Eryk Bagshaw reports that The Turnbull government has quietly banked revenue worth nearly $3 billion from a new economic policy expected to be announced this year, as it also moves to demand more tax from multinational tech giants and popular digital players like Uber.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/revenue-decisions-taken-but-not-yet-announced-worth-nearly-3-billion-budget-papers-20180511-p4zeqn.html
    15% vote for PHON in Longman poll. They deserve what they get!
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/byelection-blitz-survey-has-coalition-winning-queensland-seat-to-boost-majority-20180511-p4zeuo.html
    The SMH editorial contrasts the economic approaches of the two major parties.
    https://www.smh.com.au/national/nsw/two-budget-visions-all-about-me-or-all-about-us-20180511-p4zetc.html
    Van Badham says it’s a neoliberal budget when we no longer believe in neoliberalism
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/may/11/its-the-neoliberal-budget-when-we-no-longer-believe-in-neoliberalism
    Rob Burgess laments that what made Tuesday night’s federal budget so disappointing was the government’s apparent amnesia about what our economy has just been through.
    https://thenewdaily.com.au/money/finance-news/2018/05/10/australia-budget-reform-tax/
    The editorial on the Saturday Paper begins with “What this government hates is scrutiny. That’s what these cuts are about.”
    https://outline.com/jfNWfb
    Stephen Koukoulas asks, “What’s the point of Scott Morrison’s ‘policy speed limit’?” Have a look at the conclusion of the contribution.
    https://thekouk.com/item/600-what-s-the-point-of-scott-morrison-s-policy-speed-limit.html
    Mike Seccombe gives us the truth about wage stagnation.
    https://outline.com/yRnBT2
    Andrew Carr wonders why one of the largest and fastest growing expenditures in the federal budget, defence spending, will receive little or no debate, to the cost of our nation’s security.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/why-is-no-one-debating-one-of-the-budgets-biggest-spends-20180510-p4zekh.html
    Karen Middleton writes that as Malcolm Turnbull and Scott Morrison sell their ‘election’ budget, the prime minister is weighing up a poll that could be as early as August.
    https://outline.com/jnTw6h
    Elizabeth Knight explains how the major banks have come to the end of a super cycle and now face a difficult transition that features a combination of both operating headwinds and regulatory risks.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/amp-shareholders-voted-again-this-time-with-their-wallets-20180511-p4zes0.html
    Meanwhile a student is taking legal action against NAB for failing to pay him for 12 months of work he did as part of a university job placement program.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace/fascinating-test-uni-student-nab-locked-in-pay-dispute-20180510-p4zek1.html
    Michael West’s site reveals Marty Cohen, the man behind CBA’s sales culture.
    https://www.michaelwest.com.au/marty-cohen-the-man-behind-cbas-sales-culture-unveiled/
    Jane Caro accuses the government of ruining Gonski’s school funding plan.
    https://outline.com/9gPxpG
    The ineptitude of economist Ian Harper has left consumers to deal with fraud and deception by the major banks, writes Dr Evan Jones. We got the regulatory framework wrong, he says.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/key-architect-of-financial-system-admits-error,11487
    Clancy Yeates on how the new AMP chairman said the company is in crisis.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/amp-new-chairman-declares-the-company-is-in-crisis-20180511-p4zep3.html
    Trump has created a political mess with his blow-ups on immigration.
    https://www.smh.com.au/world/north-america/the-lies-unmasked-by-trump-s-latest-rage-filled-tirade-20180512-p4zev6.html
    While the fight for the Liberal Party plays out in its state branches, Michael Kroger’s far right has captured Victoria and is bedding down for Napoleonic preselections.
    https://outline.com/umSUWL
    Trouble at the meeting place of the Sydney elite.
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/royal-sydney-members-in-a-lather-amid-constitutional-crisis-threat-20180511-p4zer2.html
    What are the ABC’s prospects?
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/companies/the-challenge-facing-the-abc-time-for-a-clear-channel-20180511-p4zett.html
    I feel sick! Georgina Downer has declared candidacy for Liberal preselection in the Mayo by-election.
    https://outline.com/HWrAzB
    Here’s Peter FitzSimons’ weekend sporting column.
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-way-we-hear-cricket-on-our-screens-will-never-be-the-same-20180511-p4zesr.html
    George Pell met US environment chief Scott Pruitt to discuss a climate-change debate.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/may/11/george-pell-met-us-environment-chief-scott-pruitt-to-discuss-climate-change-debate
    This year’s Archibald Prize winning panting did nothing for me either.
    https://outline.com/dyme8V
    Greg Baum pours some vitriol over Cricket Australia.
    https://www.smh.com.au/sport/cricket/ca-plays-the-wrong-line-again-20180511-p4zete.html

    Cartoon Corner

    David Row is infatuated with Trump’s nakedness!

    Peter Broelman on Super Saturday.

    Zanetti continues his work.

    Mark Knight rekindles Bob Hawke.

    Several good ones here.
    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/federal/best-of-fairfax-cartoons-may-12-2018-20180511-h0zyp4.html

  34. P1 had a number of choices in her response to geoffrey —

    1. Assume that not everyone on the planet had read Douglas Adams and explain the reference;

    2. Pick up the ball of the discussion and discuss whether or not human ancestors were originally tree dwelling;

    or

    3. Snark.

    P1 chose 3.

    If she got any blowback, it was thus deserved.

  35. jen

    Not sure about your potted version of history. Moses, I’ve always understood, was a common abbreviation of the name ‘Ahmose’, the name of several Pharoahs.

  36. Morning all. I actually missed Shorten’s budget reply speech due to work commitments. Anyway I was delighted to read that it included a serious crackdown on tax rorts like family trusts and dividend paybacks. Not only will real reform improve equity, it gives Labor the cash to fund other promises. Excellent! Peter Hartcher sums it up well.
    https://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cocaine-girls-million-dollar-fraud-what-the-commonwealth-bank-lender-did-next-20180511-p4zeqt.html

  37. C@tmomma @ #689 Saturday, May 12th, 2018 – 7:10 am

    Sticks and stones.BRING IN THE STICKS AND STONES.QUICKLY!

    I hope you’re talking about a putative Liberal thought and not your own thoughts, Graeme! 😡 😯 😕

    Oh without a doubt 🙂
    I’ve always subscribed to the theory that the LNP are the original school yard bullies.

  38. The Coalition’s partner in this is One Nation. It is a grotesque alliance. One Nation has blackmailed the government over ABC funding. Last year it said it would oppose all budget measures unless the ABC’s funding was cut by $600 million a year. The party whip, Brian Burston, conceded this could be interpreted as “payback”.

    Pauline Hanson was angry about a Four Corners episode that detailed peculiarities in her party. The anger intensified when details of a trip to Afghanistan were revealed by the broadcaster. The party accused the ABC of collaborating with terrorists for the story. “The ABC are warped and dangerous. Terrible. Horrible. Sad.”

    This is the madness the Coalition now indulges. The damage being done to the ABC is damage that will harm the entire country. The pettiness of this is extraordinary. It is the action of a failed democracy.

    There are no votes in cutting the ABC. Not directly. This is about the votes you hold onto when the country doesn’t know what you are doing. It is about conducting government in darkness. In an ugly and unimaginative budget, these cuts are some of the ugliest.

    https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/2018/05/12/the-cutting-wedge/15260472006218

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