Federal preselection round-up

A round-up of recent federal preselection news, as the Prime Minister asks his party’s state branches to get a move on.

With the fortnightly cycles of Newspoll and Essential Research in sync for the time being, we would appear to be in another off week for federal polling (although ReachTEL are about due to come through, perhaps at the end of the week). However, there is a fair bit of preselection news to report, with Malcolm Turnbull having told the state party branches to get candidates in place sooner rather than later. That might appear to suggest he at least wishes to keep his options open for an early election, although betting markets rate that a long shot, with Ladbrokes offering $1.14 on an election next year and only $5 for this year.

• With the creation of a third seat in the Australian Capital Territory, the Canberra Times reports the member for Canberra, Gai Brodtmann, will contest the seat of Bean – new in theory, but in reality the seat that corresponds most closely with her existing seat – while Andrew Leigh will remain in Fenner. The ACT Chief Minister, Andrew Barr, said he contemplated running in the Canberra electorate “maybe for a moment”. The other name mentioned is Kel Watt, “a member of ACT Labor’s right faction and lobbyist for the Canberra Greyhound Racing”.

• The Courier-Mail reported a fortnight ago that Jane Prentice, Liberal National Party member for the Brisbane seat of Ryan, is likely to lose preselection to Julian Simmonds, a Brisbane councillor and former staffer to both Prentice and her predecessor, Michael Johnson. Despite Prentice being a moderate and a Turnbull supporter, the move against her has reportedly “outraged” Campbell Newman.

• Elections for administrative positions in the Victorian Liberal Party have seen Michael Kroger easily face down a challenge to his position as president, and conservative young turk Marcus Bastiaan much strengthened, including through his own election to a vice-president position. The Australian reports Bastiaan is “largely regarded as Mr Kroger’s numbers man”, but his use of his new influence to cancel an early Senate preselection process suggests the situation may be more complex than that. According to James Campbell of the Herald Sun, the preselections had been initiated at the behest of Kroger, consistent with Malcolm Turnbull’s aforementioned call for them to be handled expeditiously. The report further says Bastiaan’s determination to delay proceedings suggests a threat to James Patterson or Jane Hume, the two Senators who will face re-election at the next election. However, a report by Aaron Patrick of the Financial Review suggest the bigger threat from the conservative ascendancy is likely to be faced by factional moderates in the state parliament.

• The Toowoomba Chronicle reports John McVeigh, the Liberal National Party member for Groom, has easily seen off a preselection challenge by Isaac Moody, business manager of Gabbinbar Homestead. Moody accused McVeigh of having “betrayed” his constituents by voting yes in the same-sex marriage plebiscite (49.2% of those constituents did the same).

• The Clarence Valley Daily Examiner reports Labor’s preselection for the north coast New South Wales seat of Page will be contested by Isaac Smith, the mayor of Lismore, and Patrick Deegan, who works for a domestic violence support service. Page has been held for the Nationals since 2013 by Kevin Hogan, whose margin after the 2016 election was 2.3%. Smith is backed by Janelle Saffin, who held the seat for Labor from 2007 to 2013 and is now the preselected candidate for the state seat of Lismore.

• The Townsville Bulletin reports that Ewen Jones, who lost the seat of Herbert to Labor’s Cathy O’Toole in 2016 by 37 votes, has again nominated for Liberal National Party preselection in the Townsville-based seat of Herbert.

• The Courier-Mail reported a fortnight ago that George Christensen might face a preselection challenge for his north Queensland seat of Dawson from Jason Costigan, member for the state seat of Whitsunday, but Costigan announced a few days later that he had chosen not to proceed.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. Scott Pruitt continues to provide inspiration for Liberals about how getting the most out of your taxpayer funded position.

    A controversial trip to Morocco by Environmental Protection Agency chief Scott Pruitt last December was partly arranged by a longtime friend and lobbyist, who accompanied Pruitt and his entourage at multiple stops and served as an informal liaison at both official and social events during the visit.

    The four-day journey has drawn scrutiny from lawmakers and the EPA inspector general, who is investigating its high costs and whether it adhered to the agency’s mission to “protect human health and the environment.”

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/lobbyist-helped-broker-pruitts-100000-trip-to-morocco/2018/05/01/b2e20ee0-4d76-11e8-b725-92c89fe3ca4c_story.html?utm_term=.bbb150d655c8

  2. Cash machine: Apple flags yet another $125 billion buyback as sales surge
    Apple will return even more money to shareholders as the company generates mountains of cash from iPhone sales and benefits from recent US tax cuts.

    How do they have any money left from the tax cuts to afford share buybacks? I thought they were going to spend it all on wage rises for their employees…

  3. Sorry Zoomster

    You are just wrong.

    You are only right to the extent that Jenny gains a specific and specialist skill set at university that her sister did not. I am really talking of generalist business or events management or marketing courses (or even arts and general sciences) which actually do not provide specific skills.

    Come back to me with data that excludes all the specifically professional degrees and we can start to talk sense.

  4. Possum on the case.

    .
    Possum Comitatus
    @Pollytics
    14h
    The CBA – The Australian Boardroom’s “Boardroom” is full of mediocre dross that can’t do their jobs. Believe me now that it’s across the entire corporate sector?

    Tim Watts MP

    @TimWattsMP
    Need some industrial relations reform in the boardroom to improve productivity

    4:39 PM – May 1, 2018 · Melbourne, Victoria
    10
    See Tim Watts MP’s other Tweets

    Possum Comitatus
    @Pollytics
    The biggest impediment to Australian social and economic development is the garbage in our boardrooms. For 20 years, this closed, grubby little club of rent seeking refuse has bullied public policy into outcomes as competent as their firm management.

    4:32 PM – May 1, 2018

    Possum Comitatus
    @Pollytics
    Let there be a reckoning, if not for the benefit of the 24 million of us that live in this place, at least for the benefit of the firms run by this grandiloquent menagerie

    4:43 PM – May 1, 2018

  5. dtt

    No, I am not. I have used actual data. You have created a unique set of circumstances, which would not happen in real life (Jenny would not get the position to begin with; a Uni graduate would).

    And these – ‘ generalist business or events management or marketing courses’ all provide specific skills (in business, in event management and in marketing…).

    Many Arts students, of course, do an extra year and get their teaching diploma, and earn $60k in their first year of employment.

  6. A detailed analysis of the costs of degrees.

    My basic point remains: the Greens have provided no costings for any of their hairy-chested trillions of additional expenditure over forward estimates. Everything is free: just shake the money tree.

    The Greens are relying on the magic pudding. This approach trashed the Venezuelan economy such that the erstwhile middle class is now fleeing the country as refugees while those remaining try to cope with hyperinflation and with queuing for the basics, if they can be found at all.

    https://docs.education.gov.au/system/files/doc/other/deloitte_access_economics_-_cost_of_delivery_of_higher_education_-_final_report.pdf

  7. Poroti

    This is what I have been putting on here

    The RC into Financial Services is restrictive and is not a RC into banking practices, practices which are not in the public interest or the National interest

    Then you get to business per se

    There are some excellent operatives but, unfortunately they are few and far between

    My knowledge?

    30 years lending to Corporate Australia

    Whilst I pulled up stumps over 20 years ago my associations and therefore knowledge remain

  8. Morning all. Possum is correct. Australia’s boardrooms are a collection of (mostly) private schooled boys who are well connected and of average intellect. Look at how our “successful” banks fare every time they venture to operate overseas. Without the RBA to prop them up they lose money by the fistful. In protecting depositors and homeowners well, the RBA has created a system where our bank executives look far smarter than they are.

  9. @Boerwar

    Actually, the plummeting price of oil, coupled with sanctions from the USA designed to ‘encourage’ Venezuela to vote properly next time destroyed the economy.

  10. Dtt/zoom
    Generally I agree with zoom – studies consistently show education is a good long term investment for the educated. Even health and social outcomes are better, not just financial ones. It is slow and hard to prove because you need to compare people within their cohort and track them over time. Recently returns to new graduates compared to average incomes have been falling. But returns to non graduates new to the job market have fallen even further, witness the gig economy.

    The only caveat on this is that skills, not qualifications, are what matter. So setting up private vocational diploma mills was a waste of money. Likewise I do question some business courses with limited contact hours. BAs are actually superior IMO. We train far too many MBAs too. But the solution to that is tighten up standards and fundin* allocation systems in education, not throw school leavers onto a job market where the unskilled will struggle to survive.

  11. Emma Alberici
    ‏@albericie
    Are you working part time or casually but wish you were working full time? Have your hours been cut? Are you looking for more work than you currently have? If this is you or you know someone in this situation, Drop me a line here alberici.emma@abc.net.au

  12. Morning all

    Mirabella truly has zero self awareness.
    She exudes such negative and self absorbed energy. Even when she says and does nothing at all

  13. Yep. The shit show rolls on…

    Conversation
    Rick Wilson
    Rick Wilson
    @TheRickWilson
    This story is the craziest damn thing I’ve seen all day. And that’s saying something.

    Trump’s doctor says Trump bodyguard ‘raided’ his office, took files
    nbcnews.com

  14. Rob Brown

    Hey @TurnbullMalcolm do you know what’s cheaper than PAYING farmers to prevent sediment run off into the reef?
    Imposing FINES on farmers for allowing run off into the reef
    #auspol

  15. Feedback I have been getting of late from parents of children in their teens, is that the odds are stacked against them.
    Cost of housing features heavily, followed by casualisation of work, and belief that only way they will have any financial stability is by getting handouts by parents and waiting for inheritance.

  16. @don – I suspect the type of person who goes to university would (on average) be the type of person who earns more anyway.

    i.e. this doesn’t answer whether a specific person will earn more if they go to university or not.

  17. London: Cardinal George Pell is likely to be replaced as head of the Vatican’s Secretariat for the Economy now that he has been committed to stand trial on sexual assault charges, an experienced Vatican observer says.

    “The great likelihood is that he’s never going back to Rome, at least as head of the Secretariat,” said John L. Allen jnr, editor at Crux and a long-time reporter and author on Catholicism and the Vatican.

    https://www.theage.com.au/world/europe/pell-faces-demotion-in-rome-vatican-expert-says-20180502-p4zcrx.html

  18. https://www.reuters.com/article/us-military-spending/russian-military-spending-falls-could-affect-operations-think-tank-idUSKBN1I24H8

    While some might expect ww3, clearly Russia is not among them. Military spending fell by 20% last year and is expected to remain flat or fall further.

    Russia’s finances are still fragile following a two-year economic downturn brought on by Western sanctions and a collapse in global oil prices. Higher crude prices helped the economy return to growth of 1.5 percent last year, short of a government target of 2 percent.

    The export-dependent economy has now got accustomed to lower commodity prices than before 2014, and the budget is likely to post a small deficit or even a surplus in 2018.

    President Vladimir Putin has also called for higher living standards and higher spending on social infrastructure, such as healthcare and education. Some government officials have called for lower military spending to free up funds for such initiatives.

    The Kremlin said in March Russia would cut its defense budget to less than 3 percent of gross domestic product within the next five years.

  19. Socrates @ #562 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2018 – 9:10 am

    Dtt/zoom
    Generally I agree with zoom – studies consistently show education is a good long term investment for the educated. Even health and social outcomes are better, not just financial ones. It is slow and hard to prove because you need to compare people within their cohort and track them over time. Recently returns to new graduates compared to average incomes have been falling. But returns to non graduates new to the job market have fallen even further, witness the gig economy.

    The only caveat on this is that skills, not qualifications, are what matter. So setting up private vocational diploma mills was a waste of money. Likewise I do question some business courses with limited contact hours. BAs are actually superior IMO. We train far too many MBAs too. But the solution to that is tighten up standards and fundin* allocation systems in education, not throw school leavers onto a job market where the unskilled will struggle to survive.

    Socrates

    We probably basically agree.What i am trying to say is that a generalist uni qual – especially if from an institution that has dumbed itself down to cater for international students, the needs for many students to basically work full time to be able to afford to live and the fact that more kids are going into courses who may not have essential foundation skills – may not be a cost effective option

    I think the story I am trying to tellis
    1. Raising university fees especially on generalist courses may be detrimental
    2.People should not have to pay back their debt unless clearly earning more than their contempories without degrees
    3. expansion of university because it is high prestige etc may not be the best thing overall

    Data should compare like with like – a kid in the top 1% who studies medicine or Law and goes on to become a high flying surgeon or barrister or academic, if left without a degree option would in the past have selected a career path that avoided high uni fees – an articled clerk route for becoming a lawyer, becoming a journalist (until the 80s few journalists had degrees), girls (sorry it was a sexist age) would choose nursing where they got paid). Of course these days those with degrees fare better than those without but since getting a degree also correlates with basic ability to apply oneself in a desk type situation this is an obvious result.

    I might also add that for anyone over 55 and out of the workforce for more than a year, having a degree is totally without any financial benefit at all. Certainly I am sure my employment options are now limited to simplistic call centre work (no degree needed), care work or domestic cleaning. Luckily I was of the free uni generation or by god I would resent it.

    I might also add I had a bit of a dream run at first at a time when Zoomster’s estmates were the workplace reality. But that was 40 years ago.

  20. Briefly

    I am very confident there will be no ww3 that involves Russia.
    Putin is well and truly pissed that Trump has not been able to remove sanctions as agreed.
    Putin sees his puppet unravelling and he is going to cut him loose.
    Fun and games

  21. Well, adult government of Tasmania is starting off well.

    Libs have 13, Labor 10, Greens 2.

    However, one of the Liberals just voted (with support from Lab + Greens) to make themselves the speaker.

    Ms Hickey, who said while she would stand with the Government on matters of supply, she would vote on all other bills on their “merits”.

    Liberals essentially down to minority government on day 1.

    http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-05-02/sue-hickey-speaker-coup-a-dog-act-kate-crowley-says/9718160

  22. BK @ 9:26
    As a person of Irish descent, I thoroughly approve of potatoes in all roles except Ministers of the Crown. Your article says that the accuracy of the grading is adversely affected by the motion of the spud. I wonder whether retrograde motion would be even worse? in that case any attempt to grade our current crop of Ministers would certainly fail.

  23. zoomster @ #530 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2018 – 5:01 am

    ‘Business Council of Australia chief executive Jennifer Westacott said the Gonski 2.0 proposals would create “the real culture change” big business was looking for in schools. She said it was “vital” schools and industry worked together to make students work-ready, and the business community “stands ready to play an active role”.’

    https://www.canberratimes.com.au/politics/federal/pretty-damn-critical-education-experts-urge-big-business-to-step-into-the-classroom-20180501-p4zcnk.html

    If the BCA like it, it must mean that Gonski isn’t proposing Ethics classes for students! 🙂

  24. Dtt

    I understand and as you say, the question is the marginal benefit for someone of equal ability doing or not doing uni. However that is exactly what the long term cohort studies I referred to do check. They still find the students who do uni do better than similar ability students who do not. This often takes more than a decade to show up, but is pretty consistent.

    Interestingly it is the generalist courses NOT the specialist ones, that have shown the largest benefits in the past. Specialist knowledge can become obsolete as technologies and occupations change. Generalist skills like problem solving and communications do not become obsolete.

  25. Good Morning

    I see that BW is back. I hope he can tell us if he has not already how Ctar is doing.

    BW

    On the Greens. Expensive out of touch marxist ideas. You sound like a Murdoch scribe. The Greens have $65 Billion to spend before they even get close to the LNP profligacy!

  26. Barney

    Yes exactly! I assume the BCA want our schools to teach students how to commit fraud and evade tax, in order to be “job ready”.

  27. Socrates @ #582 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2018 – 9:48 am

    Dtt

    I understand and as you say, the question is the marginal benefit for someone of equal ability doing or not doing uni. However that is exactly what the long term cohort studies I referred to do check. They still find the students who do uni do better than similar ability students who do not. This often takes more than a decade to show up, but is pretty consistent.

    Interestingly it is the generalist courses NOT the specialist ones, that have shown the largest benefits in the past. Specialist knowledge can become obsolete as technologies and occupations change. Generalist skills like problem solving and communications do not become obsolete.

    Socrates
    I am not sure that the studies are still true.

    What you say WAS true for those who completed university any time up to say 1990. However these people are not yet at the end of their working life so the data is not complete.

    However for those who completed university less than 30 years ago, the lifetime data is no where near complete enough to make any sort of lifetime estimates.

  28. A comment on the media in the US

    David Rothkopf@djrothkopf
    Job of media is not to provide “balanced” views. It is to provide truth. If one side speaks the truth and the other does not, the liars are not entitled to a platform. Suggesting otherwise is what got us into this mess in the first place.

  29. The economic questions in education funding begin with asking whether investment tends to result eventually in declining returns or not. If declining returns prevail, eventually it makes sense to curtail investment, at least from an economic perspective.

    I think that in fact the returns to investment in education are unusual. They exhibit increasing returns to scale. As well, investment made in new education compounds the returns accruing to earlier investment. (So, for example, the returns to primary education in literacy and numeracy are increased when the literate or numerate person undertakes a higher degree. There will be an additional gain accruing to the very first round of investment as well as to subsequent rounds.)

    The other question relates to where the returns to education accrue. Do they accrue in the accounts of the educated only? Or do they accrue socially. I think the largest share of returns accrue socially, which is to say that when more of us are better educated, we all prosper; and that this welfare effect can be interpreted in many ways, not merely in financial terms.

    The instrumental example is literacy. When one person in a village is literate, that person has great advantages. But when others become literate, not only do these new learners acquire advantages, the first-literate person also benefits. Their literacy becomes more valuable as they are able to apply their literacy in new ways and with a wider class.

    This illustrates that each person in a community derives benefits from the investment made in the education of others as well as from their own education. There are collective benefits. These collective benefits extend well beyond the individual gains and give rise to expanding returns to investment in education.

    The focus on the return available to the individual is premised on a user-pays approach, which insists that on cost/benefit grounds the recipient of education investment should be required to pay for it. This is, necessarily, elitist and socially regressive.

    As an aside, while not talking about John Monash, it is well worth recalling that he was born in rural Victoria where the educational opportunities were few, even for very talented children. Monash’s mother was persuaded by a teacher that her son should have the best education available. The family were not able to afford to send John to a college in the city, but, undeterred, Monash’s mother went and camped in the office of the Headmaster of Scotch College and eventually he agreed to create a full-fee scholarship for the boy.

    Clearly the investment made in this scholar was well spent. But who knew that at the time? There are obviously large, if unquantified, opportunity cost that arises from failing to invest in education.

  30. A report has found that some English faith schools continue to hold policies banning the “promotion” of homosexuality more than a decade after the repeal of Section 28 – while others are teaching kids that gay sex is “unnatural” and leads to risk of AIDS.
    The National Secular Society (NSS), which opposes faith-based learning, published a report today investigating the teachings of more than 600 state secondary faith schools. 
    The report found that while many faith schools offer sex and relationship education (SRE), 77% of those with an SRE policy were found to deliver the subject “according to the teachings of the school’s religious ethos, rather than in a secular, impartial manner.”

    https://www.pinknews.co.uk/2018/05/01/faith-schools-exposed-over-policies-banning-promotion-of-homosexuality/

    So much for keeping education and religion apart.

  31. Guytaur

    I think if the Greens policy had just two caveats it would be quite affordable:
    – up to four years free tertiary study per person who qualified, with the extra years in longer courses paid for (they generally earn more)
    – the money stops if you dont pass or drop out, so no wasting of years.

    It isn’t marxism. Many other capitalist OECD countries still have free unis. We live in a bubble when we only compare ourselves to UK, USA or wherever else the Murdochracy points to. NZ is introducing this policy now and they have less money than we do. Just cancel that stupid F35 fighter jet purchase. Program paid for, job done.

  32. Good point about Russia and WW3… Russia has a GDP about the same as Australia. Imagine Australia’s budget trying to maintain a country the size of Russia, and a nuclear arsenal, and aircraft carriers, and decrepit infrastructure etc… Putin plays cheap (and effective) cyber and social media mind games to mess with the West. He is not stupid.

  33. daretotread. @ #585 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2018 – 6:57 am

    Socrates @ #582 Wednesday, May 2nd, 2018 – 9:48 am

    Dtt

    I understand and as you say, the question is the marginal benefit for someone of equal ability doing or not doing uni. However that is exactly what the long term cohort studies I referred to do check. They still find the students who do uni do better than similar ability students who do not. This often takes more than a decade to show up, but is pretty consistent.

    Interestingly it is the generalist courses NOT the specialist ones, that have shown the largest benefits in the past. Specialist knowledge can become obsolete as technologies and occupations change. Generalist skills like problem solving and communications do not become obsolete.

    Socrates
    I am not sure that the studies are still true.

    What you say WAS true for those who completed university any time up to say 1990. However these people are not yet at the end of their working life so the data is not complete.

    However for those who completed university less than 30 years ago, the lifetime data is no where near complete enough to make any sort of lifetime estimates.

    Classic, deny the evidence if it doesn’t fit your world view!

    Once again you you pull numbers out of your backside where as zoomster has shown a simple Google search would show that they are rubbish.

    As I said last night;

    Over their life, on average, a Uni graduate will pay much more tax than a non-graduate.

    In fact the difference is multiple times more than the cost of their degree.

    This is because the graduate, on average, is earning more than the non-graduate, around 40% more.

  34. Edjamukation has other benefits.
    .
    “More education is what makes people live longer, not more money

    Could schools be a better public health investment than hospitals?

    When countries develop economically, people live longer lives. Development experts have long believed this is because having more money expands lifespan, but a massive new study suggests that education may play a bigger role. The finding has huge implications for public health spending.

    Back in 1975, economists plotted rising life expectancies against countries’ wealth, and concluded that wealth itself increases longevity. It seemed self-evident: everything people need to be healthy – from food to medical care – costs money.

    But soon it emerged that the data didn’t always fit that theory. Economic upturns didn’t always mean longer lives. In addition, for reasons that weren’t clear, a given gain in gross domestic product (GDP) caused increasingly higher gains in life expectancy over time, as though it was becoming cheaper to add years of life. Moreover, in the 1980s researchers found gains in literacy were associated with greater increases in life expectancy than gains in wealth were.”
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2166833-more-education-is-what-makes-people-live-longer-not-more-money/

  35. Dtt
    This stuff is getting studied all the time. L8ke I said before, yes graduate wages are dropping in real terms. But starter wages for non graduates are dropping even faster. So the relative benefi5 is still there. The problem is falling real wages, not education. Look up some non-Murdoch sources on this:
    https://grattan.edu.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/164_graduate_winners_non-financial_benefits.pdf

    And
    https://theconversation.com/university-a-worthwhile-investment-for-individuals-and-society-oecd-31516

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