Ipsos: 52-48 to Labor

A new poll from Ipsos just about does for Malcolm Turnbull what he can apparently only dream of from Newspoll.

Two days out from the one we’ve all been waiting for, Fairfax has cutely interjected with an Ipsos poll – conducted on this most special of occasions from Tuesday to Thursday for publication on Friday night, and not from Thursday to Saturday for publication on Sunday night as standard. The sample is 1166, somewhat lower than the usual 1400 from Ipsos.

The headline two-party result of 52-48 to Labor, as determined using 2016 election preference flows, is only slightly above the Coalition’s usual form – but Malcolm Turnbull is given a very useful straw to grasp with a tied result using respondent-allocated preferences. This is something the Coalition hasn’t achieved on either kind of two-party measure in any poll since September 2016, except for the quirky and apparently short-lived YouGov series for Fifty Acres. The previous Ipsos poll in early December had Labor leading 53-47 on previous election preferences and 52-48 on respondent allocation. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up two to 36%, Labor is up a point to 34%, and the Greens are down a point to 12% (high results for the Greens being a consistent features of Ipsos polls).

The good news for Malcolm Turnbull doesn’t end there: the poll finds only 28% in favour of the Liberals removing him as leader, compared with 62% who think he should remain, and his approval rating bounces five points to 47%, with disapproval down six to 43%. This is the first time since April last year that Turnbull has recorded net favourable personal ratings – the previous instance being another Ipsos poll, which is no coincidence, since the series consistently records high approval and low undecided ratings for both leaders. Bill Shorten is steady on 38% approval and up one on disapproval to 53%. The poll also finds 49% support for company tax cuts, with the number opposed not provided. This is dramatically more favourable than ReachTEL’s finding of 29% in favour and 56% opposed, although recent Essential Research polls have had slight net favourable results.

We have also had Roy Morgan publish results of its face-to-face polling for the second fortnight a row, which the pollster has hitherto been reserving for its massively expensive subscriber service since the 2016 election campaign. I’m not sure if this portends a regular return to publication, or if it will be appearing on an ad hoc basis, as the release a fortnight ago seemed to suggest. Whatever it is, the result is likewise on the high side for the Coalition, with Labor holding a steady 51-49 lead on two-party preferred. This is in contrast to the form of the Morgan face-to-face series of old, which was notorious for its skew to Labor.

However, as with Ipsos, it’s respondent allocation that’s making the difference – if previous election preferences were applied, Labor’s lead would be up from 51-49 to 53-47. The primary votes are Coalition 38.5%, down from 40% a fortnight ago; Labor 37.5%, up from 35%; Greens 11%, down from 12%; and One Nation on an unusually weak 3%, down from 3.5%. The Morgan release has two-party breakdowns by state and income category. The poll was conducted over the past two weekends from a combined sample of 1477.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. While we are waiting for NewsPoll, here is an interesting photo. Prince Charles is done with the Gold Coast games, and has ditched Camilla to hook up with JulieB and ‘go native’ in a visit today to Vanuatu.

    Not sure why he declined to don the penis gourd?

  2. Groan. FTTC is Fibre To The Curb

    OMG that is so incredibly unbelievably ridiculous!

    And presumably because it’s gone on for so long now they can’t conceivably make it FTTK at this point.

  3. sprocket_ @ #751 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:55 pm

    While we are waiting for NewsPoll, here is an interesting photo. Prince Charles is done with the Gold Coast games, and has ditched Camilla to hook up with JulieB and ‘go native’ in a visit today to Vanuatu.

    Not sure why he declined to don the penis gourd?

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    Would you put your “p” in a gourd?

  4. C@t:

    There’s also that statement from the Sth African govt that was released the other day. Do Goodenough and Hastie refute the advice from the Sth African govt, in which case they need to discuss this with JBishop and Turnbull.

  5. The use of “curb’ instead of ‘kerb’ no doubt caused by an infestation of ‘Septic Tanks’ in the NBN woodwork.

  6. Ratsak
    In fact the technical trend is in the opposite direction i.e. back to rail. Most advanced technology large vehicles as you have suggested have not panned out in practice. Large vehicles are heavy and running in the same spot over a regular route usually means they need a concrete pavement to take the weight. This is costly, often with no saving over a rail track slab. Batteries to replace petrol or overhead catenary power are heavy, so modern wireless electric vehicles (bus or rail) are actually heavier than the diesel buses or electric trams they might replace.

    Yes you could develop an entirely new vehicle from scratch, as the US tried to do with the BART system in SanFranciso. But then it does not fit any of the existing road lanes or rail lines and so needs a whole new guideway at very high cost. Our cities are already built, with the width of roads and rail lines already fixed, unless you resume all the land along one side (costly and impacting) or go to tunnelling (even more costly). So most technical development focuses on getting more efficient vehicles that will run in existing road lanes or rail lines. It would take decades to rebuold all that infrastructure. It wont happen in my lifetime.

  7. Confessions @ #755 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:59 pm

    C@t:

    There’s also that statement from the Sth African govt that was released the other day. Do Goodenough and Hastie refute the advice from the Sth African govt, in which case they need to discuss this with JBishop and Turnbull.

    Yes, of course they refute it. The SA government is full of Darkies!

    I mean, you and I know it’s nuts but they would believe what a White Afrikaner says over a Black South African any day.

  8. mike we all know surveyors deal with quaint language.
    I’m reminded of how it was pointed out to us years ago by a surveyor about the difference between a “right of way” and a “right of carriageway”. Apparently the former doesn’t allow cars.

  9. Ratsak
    There is a lot of ink spilt on this topic. If you want more technical discussion read Vukan Vuchic’s book on transit techology, which is a good survey of the topic. For capacity and space wfficiency nothing beats passenger rail. For energy efficinecy nothing with a motor beats light rail. Though bicycle is the real champ for efficiency 🙂

  10. I used Wikipedia as I didnt know lol

    Fiber to the node or neighborhood (FTTN), sometimes identified with and sometimes distinguished from fiber to the cabinet (FTTC), is a telecommunication architecture based on fiber-optic cables run to a cabinet serving a neighborhood

  11. Socrates,

    Weight is no longer the issue with battery powered mass transit vehicles. Any road surface that is designed for trucks (and most are) can cope with a battery powered, rubber tired, segmented vehicle with low floors – in other words a tram.

    In some case you may wish to lay concrete or to lay concrete over a dedicated right of way (such opportunities do exist). However there is no need for the utter excess demonstrated by the Sydney CBD light rail network with trackform (concrete slabs) that are over a metre thick in places.

  12. Steve,

    Thanks to Turnbull we also have “MTM” which stood for Multi Technology Mix.

    History will remember this as Malcom Turnbull’s Mistake.

  13. Socrates @ #767 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:11 pm

    Ratsak
    There is a lot of ink spilt on this topic. If you want more technical discussion read Vukan Vuchic’s book on transit techology, which is a good survey of the topic. For capacity and space wfficiency nothing beats passenger rail. For energy efficinecy nothing with a motor beats light rail. Though bicycle is the real champ for efficiency 🙂

    https://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Livable-Cities-Vukan-Vuchic/dp/0882851616
    Is this the book? (I’ve always thought that transportation is the key to an evolving civilisation. It’s how to fit more in, bring things into reach, etc.)

  14. Trams do not have tires, they have steel wheels that run on steel rails. Trams are smaller versions of light rail. You are talking about battery buses/battery BRT.

  15. steve davis @ #769 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:14 pm

    I used Wikipedia as I didnt know lol

    Fiber to the node or neighborhood (FTTN), sometimes identified with and sometimes distinguished from fiber to the cabinet (FTTC), is a telecommunication architecture based on fiber-optic cables run to a cabinet serving a neighborhood

    I have never heard that distinction made in Australia.
    We are talking about Fibre To The Node and Fibre To The Curb (Kerb) in that diagram plus Fibre To The Basement and Fibre To The Home.

    I don’t like the term FTTH as it is the same connection to small businesses so I prefer Fibre To The Premises – FTTP.

    Who started all the distraction on this?

  16. Late Riser @ #772 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:16 pm

    Socrates @ #767 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:11 pm

    Ratsak
    There is a lot of ink spilt on this topic. If you want more technical discussion read Vukan Vuchic’s book on transit techology, which is a good survey of the topic. For capacity and space wfficiency nothing beats passenger rail. For energy efficinecy nothing with a motor beats light rail. Though bicycle is the real champ for efficiency 🙂

    https://www.amazon.com/Transportation-Livable-Cities-Vukan-Vuchic/dp/0882851616
    Is this the book? (I’ve always thought that transportation is the key to an evolving civilisation. It’s how to fit more in, bring things into reach, etc.)

    Never mind. I think this is the book you mean: Urban Transit Systems and Technology.
    https://www.amazon.com/Urban-Transit-Systems-Technology-Vuchic/dp/047175823X/ref=sr_1_3
    Bit expensive. Hopefully my local library can help. 🙂

  17. bemused @ #778 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:24 pm

    steve davis @ #769 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:14 pm

    I used Wikipedia as I didnt know lol

    Fiber to the node or neighborhood (FTTN), sometimes identified with and sometimes distinguished from fiber to the cabinet (FTTC), is a telecommunication architecture based on fiber-optic cables run to a cabinet serving a neighborhood

    I have never heard that distinction made in Australia.
    We are talking about Fibre To The Node and Fibre To The Curb (Kerb) in that diagram plus Fibre To The Basement and Fibre To The Home.

    I don’t like the term FTTH as it is the same connection to small businesses so I prefer Fibre To The Premises – FTTP.

    Who started all the distraction on this?

    Turnbull!

  18. rhwombat,
    There are still better cops in today’s Queensland Police Force than Peter Dutton! He’s the bad potato in the bunch.

  19. Now here is a list. All the past presidents of the NSW Young Liberals.

    Some august names on the list indeed. I wonder if the latest entry, AFR Editor and Insiders couch warmer Mike Stutchbury’s kid, will do as well?

    PAST PRESIDENTS OF THE NSW YL MOVEMENT

    1962-1964 John Howard
    1964-1965 Jeffrey Kirby
    1965-1966 Graham Jones
    1966-1967 Phillip Morgan
    1967-1968 Warren McCullagh
    1968-1971 Peter Fitzgibbon
    1971-1972 Philip Ruddock
    1972-1974 Christopher Puplick
    1974-1976 Neil Hansford
    1976-1978 Jim Carey
    1978-1979 Robert Nestdale
    1979-1980 David Minty
    1980-1982 Christopher Crawford
    1982-1984 Michael Photios
    1984-1985 Andrew Kirk
    1985-1986 Catherine Cusack
    1986-1987 Scott Heathwood
    1987-1988 Marise Payne
    1988-1990 Donald Harwin
    1990-1991 Joseph Hockey
    1991-1992 Trent Zimmerman
    1992-1993 John Brogden
    1993-1994 Shayne Mallard
    1994-1995 Jason Falinski
    1995-1996 Andrew Maiden
    1996-1997 Gladys Berejiklian
    1997-1998 Jason Collins
    1998-1999 Ross Cadell
    1999-2000 Tony Chappel
    2000-2001 Andrew Constance
    2001-2002 Ben Franklin
    2002-2005 Alexander Hawke
    2005-2005 Dominic Perrottet
    2005-2006 Natasha Maclaren-Jones
    2006-2008 Noel McCoy
    2008-2011 Scott Farlow
    2011-2014 Simon Fontana
    2014-2015 James Wallace
    2015-2017 Alex Dore
    2017- Harry Stutchbury

  20. Late Riser @ #740 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:45 pm

    Confessions @ #737 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:42 pm

    What does FTTC and FTTB stand for anyone?

    I’m going to guess B stands for Building. C should stand for Kerb. N is for Node and H is for Home.

    I thought ‘B’ in this case was for ‘Basement’? My understanding of the acronyms was:

    FTTN – Fibre To The Node; garbage, basically the “don’t actually run any new fibre, just upgrade everyone’s DSL” option
    FTTC – Fibre To The Curb; pretty good, fibre is run all the way to a small box in the street in front of the premises*
    FTTP – Fibre To The Premises; top of the line, fibre is run all the way to a box on the inside of the premises
    FTTH – Fibre To The Home; same thing as FTTP
    FTTB – Fibre To The Basement; pretty good, this is basically like FTTC for buildings*, you run fibre to a box inside the building, but then use the building’s internal copper wire rather than continuing the fibre to each individual unit

    * “Premises” means a single-family home; “Building” means a multi-dwelling unit, apartment complex, and similar

    Sprocket’s image is useful but also a bit confusing because it’s only showing MDU’s.

  21. a r @ #789 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 8:35 pm

    Late Riser @ #740 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:45 pm

    Confessions @ #737 Sunday, April 8th, 2018 – 7:42 pm

    What does FTTC and FTTB stand for anyone?

    I’m going to guess B stands for Building. C should stand for Kerb. N is for Node and H is for Home.

    I thought ‘B’ in this case was for ‘Basement’? My understanding of the acronyms was:

    FTTN – Fibre To The Node; garbage, basically the “don’t actually run any new fibre, just upgrade everyone’s DSL” option
    FTTC – Fibre To The Curb; pretty good, fibre is run all the way to a small box in the street in front of the premises*
    FTTP – Fibre To The Premises; top of the line, fibre is run all the way to a box on the inside of the premises
    FTTH – Fibre To The Home; same thing as FTTP
    FTTB – Fibre To The Basement; pretty good, this is basically like FTTC for buildings*, you run fibre to a box inside the building, but then use the building’s internal copper wire rather than continuing the fibre to each individual unit

    * “Premises” means a single-family home; “Building” means a multi-dwelling unit, apartment complex, and similar

    Sprocket’s image is useful but also a bit confusing because it’s only showing MDU’s.

    Thanks ar. It’s a bugger, but Fibre To The “whatever” is what non-techs hear. And I think that might have been the point all along.

  22. i thought everyone here thought shorten delivered dividend matter well, and gained votes .
    now there are doubts

    he didn’t

  23. Fttb, fibre to the basement is the same technology as fibre to the node. The advantage is the copper to run vdsl is shorter than a node in the street.

  24. Well, at least Wayne has worked out that 3+3 = 6 + 2019 = 2025. Progress!

    Everything else is sad, delusional garbage… unless it’s some kind of trolling/performance art, then it’s an especial waste of time to bother reading him.

    That will be my last response to it.

  25. All these references to “our great LNP” by Wayne – is anyone else reminded of Chinese Communist propaganda of the 1960s and 70s, all overstuffed with adjectives?

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