As reported by The Guardian, the latest fortnightly poll from Essential Research shifts in favour of the Coalition, who now trail Labor 52-48 compared with 54-46 in the last poll. While this fits the narrative of Labor taking a hit from dividend imputation better than Newspoll, Essential’s question on the subject produces a better result for Labor than Newspoll’s, with 32% supportive and 30% opposed (compared with 33% and 50% from Newspoll). Primary votes and full report to follow later.
UPDATE: Full report here. As with two-party, the Coalition is up two on the primary vote, to 38%, and Labor down two, to 36%, with the Greens steady on 9% and One Nation steady on 8%.
I believe the mystery of Newspoll’s and Essential’s different numbers on dividend imputation is solved: Essential’s question was preceded by another on how many people were beneficiaries of the existing policy (16% received a tax deduction, 10% a cash payment), which explained how the existing policy works and how much it costs. This is unfortunate in my view, because it put respondents on a different footing from the general population. Some of the “statements about imputation credits” that respondents were invited to agree or disagree with also seem a bit leading (“paying people money to compensate for tax they haven’t paid does not make sense”), although in this case it doesn’t affect the responses to the more important question of support or opposition to the policy, as it came later in the survey.
The poll also canvasses opinion on what other tax policies respondents might support or oppose, and as usual it finds that the public heavily favours a more redistributive approach (class war and the politics of envy, if you will). Nonetheless, 40% favour cutting the company tax rate to 25%, with 30% opposed. Twenty-six per cent trust Labor more to manage a fair tax system, 28% the Coalition, and 31% no difference. Only 7% reckon Australia’s gun laws too strict, 25% think them too weak, and 62% say they are about right. A series of questions on Facebook finds 79% agreeing it should be more regulated, with 12% disagreeing, but 45% finding Facebook “generally a force for good”, with 37% disagreeing.
citizen @ #1393 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:18 am
I was looking at the same page.
My favourite is Nepal, 1/4 hour different from India.
Also interesting is Eucla near the SA – WA border, one hour ahead of Perth. 🙂
Barnaby, you beat me to it (regarding China’s official time).
Also, I read somewhere that the Trans Siberian express train keeps Moscow time on board although it traverses multiple time zones. Maybe to minimise the effect of jet lag on the passengers? {smily emoticon}
The “economic powerhouse” also beats Queensland at football ALMOST half the time, so there is that I suppose.
Briefly
Excellent point on Nato. Ditto for the EU. The problem with the EU is to make it either like ASEAN or APEC or to make it literally the United States of Europe. Its trying to be both.
To me the die is cast. Europe should go the United States route. In reality the big one on decisions about the military has already been made by being part of Nato anyway.
Its just getting over the jingoistic our sovereign country has rights part that should be addressed. It would fix Spain’s separatists movement. It would then be an argument over two states borders not a sovereign country.
That Jingoism of national identity from centuries of practice is a lot harder to get over the top than it was for the US or Australia.
Its a huge challenge for Macron and Merkel. However if they don’t want to see more exits its ultimately what they have to do.
They are more than halfway there and they need to put it straight to a referendum to fix the mess that is the halfway house that is the EU now.
That means setting up constitutional modelling like we would have here for a Republic.
IF they cannot do this then EU project will fail.
I make no prediction as the nationalist identity is very very strong in many countries. That is their challenge to make it work however.
It’s mistaken to suppose that NATO represents a “hostile force” in the same way as Russia itself is hostile to and aggressive towards its neighbours. The Euro States have never evinced any territorial ambitions with respect to, say, Byelorussia, Russia itself or any Russian dependency. The same cannot be said of Russia, which has a very long history of armed territorial conquest and is now prosecuting the acquisition of Eastern Ukraine, territory that Russia has always regarded as its possession. It has the same attitude to parts of Poland, the Baltic States and probably Moldova. It certainly wishes to claim the Western Balkans as a sphere of influence…a lamentable posture, considering the catalyst for the war of 1914-18.
We should listen to the peoples of Eastern Europe, of the Caucasus, the Baltic, of Central and East Asia. They have firsthand knowledge, running back hundreds of years. Their interest in security, peace and prosperity is very much the same interest that we have.
bemused @ #1395 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:20 am
Do they all work the same hours according to Beijing time?
I think it’s mainly for Government admin, the people seem to adapt to a more local time for day to day activities.
poroti @ #1397 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:22 am
That’s why Chinese donors are so interested in the WA libs.
They’re just paving the way for the invasion!!!! 🙂
OOPS! Barney not Barnaby
Asha Leu says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:14 pm
c@t:
Was it also premature for the Liberal Party to snaffle almost equally new Senator, Lucy Ghichui?
Quite possibly, yes. Time will tell whether she turns out to be an asset or a hindrance.
In any case, should Labor really be taking their tactical cues from the Liberals?
The Fakes may have their own eyes on Storer.
Someone told me he would prefer if time changed EVERYDAY. 6:00am was to be set with sunrise everyday. Has some merit, but the down side would be enormous.
briefly @ #1404 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 12:27 pm
Yeah, right. Russia has never faced a threat from the West.
Check your history over the past couple of hundred years.
NATO may be relatively benign now, but in the longer term, who knows?
lizzie @ #1398 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:23 am
My favourite time of day or night;
🙂
It’s not the digital watches’ fault.
Coming down from the trees was the real mistake.
guytaur:
Not everybody has children.Not everybody works 9-5, Monday to Friday. Not everybody needs their “family time” to happen while it is light out. (Also, just how much time does someone need to teach their kid how to ride a bike? Surely, a couple of weekends will suffice?)
That really is my big issue with all the arguments for DST. It always seems to come down to forcing everybody to change to accommodate those living particular lifestyles. Surely a better solution would be to introduce more flexibility into the workplace to allow people to work the hours that best suit their own individual needs and family responsibilities.
Nor do I see it how it is particularly important for the east coast to all be on one time zone. It’s just an hour difference. Surely tourists and international businesses, more than anyone, should be familiar with the concept of the time zone changing in different places? If they aren’t capable of performing a quick Google search or using the World Clock app on their phones, then they probably have bigger problems than DST.
I currently run Dungeons & Dragons games over the internet with players from all over the world. Not only do we have to deal with a stew of different time-zones when working out scheduling, but we also have to deal with the numerous DST change-overs in both the northern and southern hemispheres. We manage.
citizen @ #1401 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:25 am
Them’s fighting words!!!!!!!!! 😠
citizen @ #1407 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:29 am
You’re forgiven.
Don’t do it again!!! 😠
AL
Yes. This is why I brought up the Spanish approach. A sensible climate adjusted policy. Lets families single people etc have light time as well as night life time and lots of healthy sleep.
Work has to work around the human factor. Not the other way around.
In fact a lot of what the ACTU is arguing now with penalty rates etc is to base work around the human factor not workers being fixed into an economic neo liberal model.
ratsak @ #1412 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 11:31 am
Nah, leaving the oceans was the big mistake
ratsak says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 11:49 am
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…”How can you get rid of Daylight savings”…
You could always just NOT fiddle with your watches.
I understand the complexity of this might baffle a large portion of your population.
Darn @ #1336 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 10:28 am
Sorry darn but I think it IS.
Oddly the people who cop most flak on here are female and the level of nastiness is greater.
For example I in fact say pretty much the same as quite a few posters here but get picked on much more. As does Pegasus and even Kezza and Player. it is probably pretty unconscious bias but Don, and Briefly seem to spring to mind first.
Those women who tow the party line ie say only what is acceptable and mainstream are not treated badly but anyone who dares to have an opinion that is outside the box gets trampled and if they are women there is an added layer of viciousness. Some younger posters also cop it eg Nicholas.
It is old white man stuff and their female accomplices. To be honest I rather think you are one of them but perhaps that is unfair.
The level of viciousness towards me (and Pegasus) is really unacceptable for decent people but I have long since realised that few of you are “gentlemen” but far more of you are wannabe thugs.
90% of the time my hide can handle it but I really do get fed up from time to time, especially if the matter is important.
http://paulbudde.com/blog/nbn-ftth-broadband/business-case-national-broadband-network/
guytaur,
I have always thought Spain and other Mediterranean countries were very civilised re the long midday break.
I also loved Madrid and Barcelona which only got rocking when people would go out for dinner at 9 pm or so.
I should add on the human factor that is where we should be talking flexibility just like the ACTU does.
Argue yeah we will give up penalty rates when and only when business has to give people the flexibility to decide what two days they can have off.
Then we can have the win win of the convenience of a 7 day a week trading while people can choose to fit their days off for being with families.
That leaves only time off for games like cricket AFL etc for going to the ground to watch and play.
Television coverage does not count it can be on demand now and that can be the business model for the sports industry.
There are many options for change if we have the will to make it so.
Nah, leaving the oceans was the big mistake
Some have argued this, but I take it as hyperbole.
Absence of Empathy says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:36 pm
ratsak says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 11:49 am
”
…”How can you get rid of Daylight savings”…
You could always just NOT fiddle with your watches.
I understand the complexity of this might baffle a large portion of your population.
I suspect that many people never change their car clock, ever.
bemused @ #1409 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 11:30 am
NATO benign. Pull the other one.
Take a look at Winston Churchill’s plans to invade Russia, or USA plans to lob 250 nukes there in the immediate aftermath of WWII. If Russia had not obtained nuclear weapons then NATO would have invaded in the early 50s.
More recently the expansion to Russia’s borders poses an existential threat which naturally they oppose.
The Iraqis might have a few views on the benign nature of NATO!!!!!!! So too might the Serbians and the Libyans.
NATO is a war alliance. It was set up to oppose the USSR and continues now with a SOLE role of opposing Russia.
doyley @ #1421 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 8:44 am
I couldn’t adapt in Spain.
I like to take my time waking up in the morning usually over a long breakfast and several coffees.
By the time I was ready to interact with the world everyone had gone home for their siesta. 🙂
So try this on!
Cricket is an elitist sport, from Gentlemen v Players until today
How reoresentative is the South African team of the South African population?
So elitist with the token dark skin – which was the tenant of the appeal re their fast bowler
Frank Worrell was the first non White to Captain the West Indies, in 1960/61
Even in Australia the game remains elitist – albeit there are the likes of Warner
This elitism impacts in games and as will be starkly in evidence to us when India tour next summer – watch for the carry on by these Honourable gentlemen of India, replicating their behaviour in previous tours
The Australian cricket team subscribes to the theory that you cut off the head of the opposition – being the Captain – and the team will disintegrate
Others now follow
Including in Australian politics with the “Kill Bill” agenda of the government and its media being principally Murdoch and Costello
And also at State level as we see in Victoria
It is imperative that Shorten and Andrews both succeed against such a tactic employed by who it is employed by
guytaur says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:45 pm
I should add on the human factor that is where we should be talking flexibility just like the ACTU does.
Argue yeah we will give up penalty rates when and only when business has to give people the flexibility to decide what two days they can have off.
Then we can have the win win of the convenience of a 7 day a week trading while people can choose to fit their days off for being with families.
That leaves only time off for games like cricket AFL etc for going to the ground to watch and play.
Television coverage does not count it can be on demand now and that can be the business model for the sports industry.
There are many options for change if we have the will to make it so.
Nonsense.
Those with families with children of school age don’t have the luxury of telling the relevant authorities that Saturday soccer and cricket will be on a thursday.
DTT
On Nato. Yes the US thinking dominates. To change that a united EU would have more of a voice and more of an influence on Nato than the US does now.
Thats Putin’s mistake with trying to divide Europe. He should have gone for dividing Europe from the US .
guytaur @ #1415 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 11:36 am
Guytaur
The Chinese too or at least in the South.
However this idea is not compatible with suburban living. It works fine if you can stroll home for a long lunch and a nap but is not practical where you have a one hr commute.
Also it means starting the day much earlier ie at 6 or 7 AM for school and work.
I thought this was a good piece on the cricket situation.
It highlights the difference between Australia’s reaction and other Countries and also the ICC.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-03-29/unique-team-demands-unique-expectations-and-penalties/9599064
guytaur @ #1428 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 11:50 am
Has Putin tried to divide Europe? I rather thought he was trying to befriend most of it – especially Germany. The ancient hostilities mean that he has little chance of befriending Poland, Lithuania or Western Ukraine and probably the UK but for the rest I rather thought he was trying to make friends but copping interference from the US – Nordstream II etc.
Don
They will have that luxury if the schools also accommodate the new thinking. Just like having staggered days for learning. Eg. Teens need to wake later than young children. So Schools of a morning could be primary schools and of an afternoon High Schools.
Arranging times for matches is only habit after all.
The reality of course is its not going to be all flexibility. However at the moment we have the you work for the economy model set by the first industrial revolution.
We have moved way past that time and its time we readjusted how we approach all our systems for these things.
We just have to think different.
daretotread. @ #1419 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 12:41 pm
Hey, I am not female and few would cop as much as I have over a period of time.
P1 is one of the thugs.
Nicholas gets jumped on because he is stunningly naive. Appearing to be very young is not the cause.
Disagreement is not viciousness although it can be expressed that way as some do.
Your ultra-alarmism taints much of what you post and draws incredulity leading to disparagement.
DTT
The NSW State Government an LNP one is trying to make Sydney a 30 minute to commute to work city.
Some facts about productivity practices have been overwhelming. Reducing the commute time increases the time a worker will be alert and able to concentrate at work.
So even the Conservative party in this country is introducing very slowly change to the way we live.
guytaur says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:56 pm
Don
They will have that luxury if the schools also accommodate the new thinking. Just like having staggered days for learning. Eg. Teens need to wake later than young children. So Schools of a morning could be primary schools and of an afternoon High Schools.
Arranging times for matches is only habit after all.
The reality of course is its not going to be all flexibility. However at the moment we have the you work for the economy model set by the first industrial revolution.
We have moved way past that time and its time we readjusted how we approach all our systems for these things.
We just have to think different.
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You are living in la-la land.
Have you ever heard of school buses?
Think about what has to be coordinated, instead of hand-waving.
don
In my previous car I never quite worked out how to change the time, so if it was missed out on a service it was always an hour out, plus or minus the minutes it inevitably gained over the months. It never worried me as I could always work it out. And I’m a stickler for getting to appointments on time. 🙂
Don
If we don’t think different we will be back to the serfs serving their medieval overlords. What we call the 1% now.
Technology has made flexibility much more possible. See the “gig” economy for how the right is using this flexibility to drive us towards serf status. Just give the flexibility and define the employee as an entrepreneur to drive down income and bargaining power of the employees.
We need to use this same flexibility for the many not the few.
This is the major reason I think Corbyn is on the right track We have to make the human factor be first before the economic factor run by that neo liberal thinking of you work for the economy.
lizzie says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 1:03 pm
don
I suspect that many people never change their car clock, ever.
In my previous car I never quite worked out how to change the time, so if it was missed out on a service it was always an hour out, plus or minus the minutes it inevitably gained over the months. It never worried me as I could always work it out. And I’m a stickler for getting to appointments on time.
I am here to tell you that there is a special place reserved in hell for the software engineers who decide how you change the clocks on stoves, microwaves, and cars.
And in the case of stoves and microwaves, often they will not work unless you set the time. Which can, of course, be the default 12:00 in any case. Then you just ignore the time on that device.
Looks like Foley has done over Gladys on knocking down stadia.
My car doesn’t have a clock.
Don
If we don’t think different we will be back to the serfs serving their medieval overlords. What we call the 1% now.
Technology has made flexibility much more possible. See the “gig” economy for how the right is using this flexibility to drive us towards serf status. Just give the flexibility and define the employee as an entrepreneur to drive down income and bargaining power of the employees.
We need to use this same flexibility for the many not the few.
This is the major reason I think Corbyn is on the right track We have to make the human factor be first before the economic factor run by that neo liberal thinking of you work for the economy.
La-la land, as I said earlier.
Do you have a pragmatic bone in your body?
Don
Do have a reality check in your body? The gig economy exists today. Right wing employers like Uber have been using exactly that flexibility and convenience to force down wages and to reduce union power.
The flexibility is coming. Its how we address it that matters.
ratsak says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
My car doesn’t have a clock.
Is it registered for use on the roads?
My little 1938 bright red Singer sports car four on the floor OHC didn’t have a clock either, but I doubt it would be able to be registered without a complete makeover, if it still exists somewhere.
Great little car, had a lot of fun in it.
ratsak
I have a clock that doesn’t have a car.
To continue this elitism including the aspiration to become one of the elite or even associate with an elite has given us Trump and Turnbull, both very rich figures from the business world who will make “me” rich too
So people aspire to be like Trump and Turnbull, and associate with them including by voting for them
But how did they come by their monetary wealth and what does that monetary wealth and associated status mask in regards character?
These people command
Well, Trump’s record in business is in the public record
Turnbull?
My only knowledge was having a set of accounts handed to me, including the sign off on a suite of Dealing Limits FAI had with Treasury (by the invitation of Treasury)
After (finally) receiving the Financial Statements of FAI I rang Treasury to ask if there were any positions outstanding
There were not
I then requested that they stand by the fax machine because the withdrawal of the facility was being faxed to them
Turnbull later sold FAI to HIH – and we all know the outcome including because of the Levy the government imposed
The outcome was of absolutely no surprise to me – obviously
But, certain put the likes of Trump and Turnbull on a pedestal courtesy of their “success” in business and their (at least gross) “wealth”
How they got it is more indicative – at least to me
zoomster @ #1445 Thursday, March 29th, 2018 – 9:12 am
My motorbike doesn’t have a clock. 🙁
ratsak says:
Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 1:08 pm
…”My car doesn’t have a clock”…
.
That’s because it is really a bicycle.