The BludgerTrack poll aggregate is drifting back towards the Coalition as other pollsters fail to replicate their particularly bad result from ReachTEL a fortnight ago. There is no change on the seat projection, though this is due to the correction of an error that short-changed Labor two seats in Queensland last week. The is balanced by Coalition gains of one seat apiece in New South Wales and Victoria. Newspoll’s latest numbers have taken a big chunk out of Malcolm Turnbull’s readings on the leadership trends, while Bill Shorten holds even on net approval. Enjoy all the results in detail by clicking on the image below.
Note that there’s a post below this one on Newspoll’s latest state voting intention result from Victoria.
zoomster @ #2397 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:20 pm
Wiping us out is easy. All we have to do is … well, pretty much exactly what we’re doing!
It’s saving us that requires real effort.
bemused
‘So I am free to take offence at any word directed to me?’
The implication of this is that the people who are telling you they find your use of language offensive aren’t really offended, but are pretending to be.
You could work from the basis that they genuinely are, and show their concerns a little respect.
@bemused
I find offensive that you are using “tard”.
Regardless of how it’s used!
Tard is an insult to ones intelligence.
And for a Labor person that you are would bring disaster to Labor if you bring down to the point of being that ‘low’ N.korea leader intelligence level with Donald Trump.
People who are Disabled can take offense even if it’s not directed at them but refer to others intelligence.
So Bemused I would limit you’re use of insults.
Lib-Lab unity ticket on the mystery TPP.
#samesame
Boerwar (and others) – have you read ‘Call of the reed warbler” by Charles Massey. He has amassed a lot of data about potential win-wins from less ‘industrialised” farming/food production for food, biodiversity, soil health and human health. He also highlights a lot of problems with monoculture/chemical farming. I recommend the book.
“So I am free to take offence at any word directed to me?”
Exactly but whether or not you or the person who offends you gets the sympathy is a difficult call. It is around community. Offending certain racists, even if you didn’t mean it, would have once got you kudos in Australia, now most intelligent people will condemn you and the racists celebrate you.
So it is all a matter of who you want to think what of you.
P1
Missing the point, as always.
Simon Katich says: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 5:24 pm
Paper Chase PhRed?
I seem to remember some in my family enjoyed that movie. The only TV I remember from the 70’s is Noni Hazelhurst.
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‘The Paper Chase’ is one of my all time favourite movies – and the subtlety of its message is still as true today – I see a lot of student James Hart in my life as a student and how in the end personal happiness of life is something you achieve irrespective of how many diplomas or degrees you have/don’t have ….
….. agreed 70’s Noni Hazelhurst was eye candy ……. and it was a must to watch ‘Play School’ with your kids !!!!!
Offense is on the hearing side, not the speaking side.
Indeed.
Sometimes I regret the offence.
But usually I welcome the offended party to it.
Not every feeling of offence is reasonable. Some that are reasonable are no where near serious enough to warrant a change of language. And some of course are absolutely deliberate.
Good afternoon all,
Labor will be making a major policy announcement tomorrow.
Shorten and Bowen will be front and centre.
Cheers.
zoidlord @ #2403 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:28 pm
Should I remove ‘leotard’ from my vocabulary? What about ‘dastard’? Or bastard?
Where does it end?
bemused @ #2399 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:23 pm
No you dickhead.
doyley @ #2409 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 4:35 pm
“We’ve decided that Labor’s position on Adani is going to be ‘definitely, maybe, or whatever gets us the most votes, I guess'”
Or something to that effect?
bemused
It ends when people stop telling you you’re being offensive. Pretty simple, really.
adrian @ #2412 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:37 pm
I never take offence at poor Adrian.
Life is so miserable for him.
Betsy DeVos is emblematic of the entire Trump regime: corrupt, ignorant, openly hostile to the mission of the agency she runs (and as a special bonus, a war criminal brother knee-deep in the Trump Russia scandal).
https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/973074763957571584
Jim Chalmers on the proposed company tax cuts.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/mar/12/we-need-to-find-a-better-way-than-turnbulls-corporate-tax-cuts
I believe bemused has been tardy for all his life.
Cameron says: Monday, March 12, 2018 at 5:40 pm
Betsy DeVos is emblematic of the entire Trump regime: corrupt, ignorant, openly hostile to the mission of the agency she runs (and as a special bonus, a war criminal brother knee-deep in the Trump Russia scandal).
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and an apologetic repeat from the other day :
Dr. Dena GraysonVerified account @DrDenaGrayson
Erik Prince “just happens” to be the brother of Betsy Devos, whose husband “just happens” to be on the board of Spectrum Health, whose server “just happens” to have been connected to w/Trump Tower & #RussianAlfa Bank.
Helluva “coincidence.”
Good to see you haven’t lost your sense of humour, Bemused.
Who needs experts when you have PB’s resident experts in ignorance.
adrian @ #2420 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:48 pm
Perhaps I should gift some of it to you. 😀
Greensborough Growler @ #2418 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:42 pm
Whilst not a suffix, it is another illustration of the innocent usage of ‘tard’.
I have no problem tacking it onto the word ‘green’ to indicate my disdain for them.
“Should I remove ‘leotard’ from my vocabulary? What about ‘dastard’? Or bastard?
Where does it end?”
You clearly aren’t good with language and meaning but are you really as bad as this post would suggest?
So two questions:
Do I bemused care that I’m offending a broad range of individuals.
Do I bemused care that there are another group of individuals who consider this kind of behaviour poor form and who would think significantly less of me if I continued to do it after the offense caused was simply and clearly explained to me.
If both answers are you don’t care, then you are fine, you and that other genius Trump who likewise doesn’t care can start a club.
Barney in Go Dau @ #1277 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:41 pm
It’s a good article, but I have trouble being convinced of its sincerity.
https://twitter.com/stephenjmolloy/status/972865648610201600
A question for PBer tech-heads.
I’m having a problem copying to my usb memory sticks.
I can copy and paste folders no problem, everything is there, but when I change drives and then come back all my folders have changed to shortcut folders that lead nowhere.
Any suggestions on how to fix this problem appreciated.
Cheers!! 🙂
WeWantPaul @ #2424 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:52 pm
I don’t mind offending Greens.
This is a good one too from Mr Sausage:
Me: Any news?
Doctor: I’m just waiting for your x-ray.
Me: But I’ve never dated anyone called Ray.
Doctor: And we might do a brain scan
Barney in Go Dau @ #2426 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:55 pm
Have you tried turning it off and on again?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nn2FB1P_Mn8
I signed this petition earlier today and request others on PB sign.
https://www.change.org/p/peter-dutton-bring-priya-back-to-biloela
It is good to see a small Qld town experiencing the full nastiness of Dutton’s Gestapo and feeling outrage. They deserve support.
This lady is right on top of her job. A lot like Ben Carson and Scott Pruitt.
DeVos: ‘I don’t know’ if number of false rape accusations is the same as number of sexual assaults.
Asked whether she was suggesting that the number of false accusations was as high as the number of actual rapes or assaults, DeVos said, “I don’t know.”
http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/377854-devos-i-dont-know-if-number-of-false-rape-accusations-are-the-same-as
Greensborough Growler
First “Check the cables” THEN “Have you tried turning it off and on again?”
zoomster @ #2407 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 5:32 pm
You had a point?
I reckon there will be some heavy inhalation of smelling salts on PB with this new appointment at the ABC.
http://about.abc.net.au/press-releases/abc-announces-new-head-investigative-and-in-depth-journalism-in-news/
rhwombat @ #2370 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 2:53 pm
I agree RHW
Mind you fairly silly way for WHO to report things..
I am taking a look at their prioritization methodology. The list as reported seems a bit strange but maybe it will be clear based on the methodology.
No, P1 – I was politely answering a query from you.
There really is no point in doing that, and I should stop.
Barney,
I suggest that you create new folders on your usb sticks, then go to your source folder, open it, click on a file,Ctrl a to highlight everything , then ctrl c to copy it all, then go to your usb folder, open it, and ctrl v to paste.
zoomster @ #2438 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 6:11 pm
And I responded to your comment, politely.
What point was it that you were making that I missed?
Lyons’ ABC gig is hardly new ..
August last year
P1
Persevere, one day you might work it out, but I doubt it.
Yabba88 @ #2439 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 6:12 pm
I don’t understand what you mean by “when I change drives”.
Please explain Barney.
The latest from Batman.
https://www.facebook.com/alpspicymemes/photos/a.739253809510858.1073741832.708396762596563/1205220396247528/?type=3
zoomster @ #2442 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 6:17 pm
That you are a patronizing git? I figured that one out a while ago.
Player One @ #2444 Monday, March 12th, 2018 – 6:21 pm
You two need to team up and play the Politeness game. You are both very good!
https://tefltastic.wordpress.com/worksheets/business-esp/market-leader/ml-pre/polite-game/
RHW
Fairly unimpressed with the WHO methodology paper.
Jargonese that told us only the obvious.
Lots of jawing, but no analysis.
After skimming it I am non eht wider about what factors they think are important, although they do exclude or reduce concern where tried and proven methods reduce spread. Perhaps surprisingly they include burial practices etc which while we now know are effective in limiting disease spread are still pretty new for many populations,
All is not green in Turnbull’s valley. 😆
http://www.news.com.au/national/politics/majority-of-queenslanders-want-a-review-on-adani-mine-approval-stats-show/news-story/71b1256f3180ccc62c605e342c8f5001
Can we lay off the tard talk please. Not interested in anyone’s sophistry in response to this.
GG, weren’t you recommending various ways of turning a pillow into a murder weapon, for use against Empathy, in the early hours of this morning?
Now you’re recommending tag team politeness?