The second poll of the year from the now-fortnightly Essential Research series has Labor’s lead widening from 53-47 to 54-46 — the primary votes will be with us later today.
Among the poll’s other findings are that 73% believe the cost of living has increased over the past year, and 75% believe energy prices have done so. Fifty-one per cent believe the cost of living has increased more quickly than their income, 28% that it has stayed even, and only 14% that their income has increased more. Eighty-three per cent thought the government should do more to make health insurance affordable, and 60% believed health insurance wasn’t worth the premiums.
Thirty-two per cent of respondents thought the political and economic system needed to be fundamentally changed, 48% favoured refinement, and only 8% registered satisfaction with the status quo. Questions on which party was best to handle various issues evoked the usual responses, with the Liberals doing better on managing the economy and terrorism, and Labor doing better on climate change and industrial relations (and, less predictably, housing affordability).
The poll was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1028.
C@t (from last thread),
It is very tempting to think there is method to the madness, with each outrage quickly superceded by the next, giving little opportunity to pause for thought. But I still think he is just king of the idiots 🙂
Hello? Is this thing on?…Tuck Frump!
We mustn’t forget that Morrison was as brutish as Dutton in his attitude over AS and he was rewarded by being given Treasurer.
Speaking of idiots, how many Hockey’s and Morrison’s does it take to kill off the idea that the L-NP are good at economics?
I think people confuse Big business perks with economics.
Question
No matter how often it is explained to me, I can’t understand why voters still trust the LNP with the economy. Possible reason? Coalition have had that theme front and centre for so many years, backed up by MSM.
“Questions on which party was best to handle various issues evoked the usual responses, with the Liberals doing better on managing the economy and terrorism, and Labor doing better on climate change and industrial relations (and, less predictably, housing affordability).“0
This highlights the point Monbiot was making that it is the *narrative* that cuts through, not facts and figures. Again, the spivs convey the belief they are better economic managers by virtue of appearances and who they hob nob with, and bald face lying. Labor needs to work hard on this, driving the point that the economy is there to equalise individual opportunity and individual prosperity, to reduce inequality, not widen it.
But, but but …”less predictably” …. Labor has achieved the prized goal of being better at housing affordability. That’s a story in and of itself.
There was a really excellent comment on Trump by a bloke called Jordan Orlando on the blog Rectification of Names yesterday:
Jordan Orlando • 16 hours ago
This is very important. The “art” of the deal, according to Trump (and therefore The Art of the Deal as bowdlerized by Tony Schwartz) is about screwing someone — generally the person you’re negotiating with. That’s the whole point, in so many words: you win, they lose (and are therefore “losers,” which is the worst thing to be in the Trump cosmogony; vastly worse than being unintelligent or immoral or, apparently, utterly tasteless). (Josh Marshall has written about this.)
So, already, it’s a model that doesn’t fit politics, which is about compromise and negotiation and both sides walking away happy; it’s an intrinsic mismatch. (Business ideas don’t carry over into politics in general, despite what Ross Perot and many others have claimed, but it’s not Donald Trump’s fault that people don’t understand this, although he adopted Perot-style rhetoric to get elected.)
But with Trump it’s even worse because the assumption was always that his “artful” deals as President would mean that we, the Americans, win (and our enemies or competitors lose). It’s a dubious proposition already, as I’m saying, but fine. What nobody seemed to realize is that Trump doesn’t think this way — it’s not about us winning; it can’t be. It’s about Trump winning. He, personally, is the only entity in the game. (We’re just spectators, looking at photographs of him in his gaudy apartment with his gaudy wife.)
So the actual Trumpian “deal” — the only one that really matters, and the one that fits his model of screwing everyone else over — is, of course, his election, where he beat Jeb and the “12 best candidates ever” and won the White House. He continues to crow over this victory; we’re invited to admire it, or, somehow, evince enjoyment or satisfaction out of it…but it’s about him winning. Now that he’s actually President, he’s confused that the game is still going on, past that magic point of his victory…so he’s looking (as Michael Wolff chronicled) for more “wins” for himself.
We don’t have anything to do with it, and never did. Voting for him is like buying the book — a totally vicarious experience; another expression of his supreme narcissism.
I recommend a visit to the thread.
I think the question should be framed as “Who the better economic manager for your circumstances“.
32% believe the political system needs to be fundamentally changed. There’s hope yet!
Maybe a disastrous Shorten Pmship will give us the majority for fundamental change? It can’t belong till we move to some form of proportional representation.
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Here’s the rundown on what’s in the latest Essential poll.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2018/jan/30/most-australians-say-cost-of-living-spiralling-guardian-essential-poll
Michael Koziol on how two unlikely bed-mates are teaming up against the new donations legislation.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/ipa-joins-forces-with-getup-to-condemn-unprecedented-and-dangerous-donations-law-20180129-h0pw1b.html
With the help of the IMF Greg Jericho destroys Morrison’s “it’s the vibe” call for big corporate tax cuts.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2018/jan/30/are-trumps-tax-cuts-really-a-model-for-australian-growth
Cape Town is heading for an horrific situation where the city is about to run out of water.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2018/01/29/cape-town-day-zero-water/
Purportedly leading the charge against increased taxpayer support for electric cars Craig Kelly says there is no looming backbench revolt, as other Liberals dismissed divisions over the issue as “nonsense”.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/turnbull-government-mps-ridicule-claims-of-looming-backbench-revolt-over-electric-cars-20180128-h0pm86.html
Dan Andrews tells it as it is after the Victorian blackouts. Confirming Andrews’ position the Australian Energy Market Operator said there was more than enough capacity in the state’s energy grid on Sunday, with no lack of reserve, even though Victorians set a record for peak power demand.
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/daniel-andrews-lashes-power-companies-over-blackouts-20180129-p4yz0m.html
Stephen Leeder, an emeritus professor of public health and community medicine. Wonders how much our doctors are getting from Big Pharma.
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/much-doctor-get-big-pharma/
FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe, criticised by Trump for alleged bias against him and favour for his 2016 Democratic opponent Hillary Clinton, has stepped down as the agency’s No. 2 official.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/world/us-fbi-deputy-director-andrew-mccabe-steps-down-20180129-p4yz0w.html
Lenore Taylor introduces a series of article on the growing list of critical environmental challenges.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/jan/30/tackling-the-ever-growing-list-of-critical-environmental-challenges
Massive corporations who pay no tax can lock workers out to force lower wages. Workers face big fines if they fight back. Welcome to the fight of our time, writes ACTU president Ged Kearney.
https://newmatilda.com/2018/01/29/one-rule-for-big-business-another-for-small-workers/
Where else are Huang’s tentacles?
http://www.smh.com.au/world/company-linked-to-chinese-political-donor-huang-xiangmo-scoops-circular-quay-apartment-project-20180129-h0q949.html
There’s some stark contrast between these innovation announcements.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/australia-could-be-world-s-healthiest-nation-says-innovation-plan-20180129-p4yyzs.html
The SMH editorial says that Turnbull is playing with fire with the government’s arms manufacture and export announcement.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/playing-with-fire-pm-wades-into-a-risky-trade-20180129-h0pzq0.html
Thanks to the Coalition’s policies and foreign trade agreements, Australia’s trade is failing while global trade is booming, writes Alan Austin.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/turnbulls-australia-tanking-while-world-trade-is-booming,11141
According to The Spectator’s Katy Balls the Tories are ready to leap into the abyss to get rid of Theresa May.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/29/tories-abyss-theresa-may-leadership-contest
Anna Patty tells us that the failure of many Australian workers to get a real pay rise has been linked to a decline in industrial action, including strikes.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/decline-in-strike-action-linked-to-slow-wages-growth-20180129-p4yyzl.html
Elizabeth Knight says that the choice of the insider to replace Narev is risky.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/cba-makes-risky-choice-for-new-chief-executive-20180129-p4yyzt.html
Adele Ferguson says he’s carrying a bit of baggage.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/comment-and-analysis/cbas-comyn-the-insider-who-can-rebuild-trust-20180129-h0pwqf.html
ANZ Bank chief executive Shayne Elliott says the bank’s initial submission to the royal commission underlines “significant failures over the last decade,” as the industry prepares for a wave of fierce scrutiny into misconduct. All four big banks have now made their submissions to the royal commission.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/we-ve-had-significant-failures-anz-bank-tells-royal-commission-20180129-p4yz0l.html
Some are saying that our resurgent dollar will slip back to US$0.70.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/markets/currencies/australian-dollar-tipped-to-slide-back-to-70-us-cents-20180128-h0pp8v.html
Tanya Plibersek gets stuck into our patchwork abortion laws and services.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/patchwork-abortion-laws-a-lottery-for-women-20180128-h0pplk.html
A pretty clear article on the role of sugar in the increase in Australia’s obesity rate.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/taxing-sugary-drinks-will-save-lives-and-cut-obesity-20180129-h0pzdt.html
The weekend’s Invasion Day protests are symbolic of a growing undercurrent of dissatisfaction with Australia’s unjust laws, says John Passant.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/trains-strikes-and-the-right-to-break-unjust-laws,11146
A nice contribution from Jenna Price in making a success of marriage.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/love-and-lasting-marriage-35-years-on-this-is-what-i-know-20180126-h0p1oh.html
An anonymous article from a guy who helped make our roads safer as a human guinea pig on drugs.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/i-helped-make-our-roads-safer-as-a-human-guinea-pig-high-on-drugs-20180128-h0pr9y.html
How virtual 3D modelling and simulation can help us create better cities.
https://theconversation.com/how-virtual-3d-modelling-and-simulation-can-help-us-create-better-cities-88635
Cartoon Corner
David Rowe and our arms super-salesmen/








Cathy Wilcox and some double standards.
And John Shakespeare gets into the act.
David Pope joins the dots.
Peter Broleman on SA’s heatwave.
Zanetti follows Tomic into the jungle. (If you’re interested!)
A couple from Matt Golding.
Pat Clement has a Pig Iron Bob moment.
https://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/03d0906f5478e71f0169060c8a27577a
ESJ. Mr. Shorten will use his negotiation skill and consensus politics to incrementally unwind the worst of neo-liberalism, and lead Australia to a new golden era.
Good one wombat. Seriously worthwhile comments.
Question @ #1 Tuesday, January 30th, 2018 – 6:55 am
from last thread, in reply to Q:
Q, I actually believe he is a genius, in the Ted Bundy, Jeffrey Dahmer mode. You know, a person capable of devising ways to knock off, metaphorically, person after person, that is between him and his goals, while at the same time giving the outward appearance of normalcy.
I mean, I know he has a person who also does some of his Tweets, but the way he uses the medium himself, and he does a hell of a lot of the Tweeting himself, is masterful. You have to admit it, he gets just the right amount of mass hysteria-inducing persuasion of his base and psychological manipulation into every Tweet!
BK
Thank you. That link to the Capetown water situation is interesting. For political and ideological reasons the Right in Australia went apeshit over the construction of desalination plants, framing them as a unionist lefty genuflection to global warming alarmism.
The Monthly, Feb 2018
The Golding toon is a ripper.
Question @ #13 Tuesday, January 30th, 2018 – 7:17 am
Exactly! Enough of the Neoliberal junkyard dog eat junkyard dog, life already!
Morning all. Speaking of economic management, you could argue Weatherall is doing better than Morrison. A lot better.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-29/economic-report-card-says-sa-doing-much-better/9370786
Boerwar @ #18 Tuesday, January 30th, 2018 – 7:57 am
Which one?
kylegriffin1: Jeffrey Toobin now says he regrets his role in pushing a “false equivalency” between Clinton and Trump: “Every time we said something, pointed out something about Donald Trump… we felt like, ‘Oh, we gotta … say something bad about Hillary.'” washingtonpost.com/blogs/erik-wem…
https://twitter.com/kylegriffin1/status/958044656587206657
I don’t think we should subsidize arms exports which Turnbull is doing.
But I do think that if we import arms, manufacture arms and arm the ADF, there is no reason not to export arms.
In fact there is probably a case to be made for ethical arms exports. The contracts should stipulate use according to our ethical standards and control over end users.
The Swedes, for example, used control over ethical standards to refuse to allow us to use our Carl Gustavs M2s during the Vietnam War.
C@t
The look on the teacher’s face as junior starts kicking the blocks around the school room.
C@tmomma
I’m sure you’re too sensible to undergo any ‘facework’, but as an example of the ugliness that results, one of the women on MKR last night was a ghastly example.
Don’t they realise that so many of them end up looking like manufactured dolls, with no personality?
joshuabadge: The Liberal party has no place at Pride or any other queer event. They’ve done nothing but cause intentional harm to our community. The only people who want them there are white gays who live in Prahan #auspol #LGBTQ
starobserver.com.au/news/national-…
http://www.starobserver.com.au/news/national-news/victoria-news/man-detained-police-midsumma-pride-march/165761
What has gone wrong with VW’s corporate culture? And when did we give up trying to reduce diesel emissions in our car fleet? They are a prime cause of smog and health risks to asthmatics. Australia is going backwards on both car emissions and road safety.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-29/vw-supervisory-board-demands-inquiry-into-diesel-fume-tests/9372040
I would agree that the Liberal party has no more place at Pride than the SDA faction of Labor.
These are the gangs who make Melbournians afraid to eat in restaurants —
‘Dozens of vegan protesters stormed a Melbourne steak restaurant on Saturday evening, shouting chants at diners using megaphones.’
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/vegan-protesters-storm-steak-restaurant-in-melbourne-s-cbd-20180129-p4yz0t.html
We are not so far from this scenario ourselves:
https://www.alternet.org/news-amp-politics/now-far-right-pundits-are-calling-death-trumps-opponents
This story shows that Morrison did use security as an excuse to deny some genuine refugees a home in Australia. Shameful.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2018-01-30/scott-morrison-tried-to-delay-asylum-seekers-visas/9353350
Soc
Sorry, what does VW’s corporate culture have to do with Australia?
zooomster
If those things are happening in Germany a regulated environment you can assume it is happening here without that regulation.
Thus the culture of empathy ethics and accountability are lacking in the corporate culture worldwide.
Zoom
They have targetted a lot of diesel sales here. Sorry a bit of a non sequiter. But we have really ignored what the rise in diesel cars is doing to our urban air quality.
RPFront: Former #Evangelicals: Fundamentalist Churches Are Patronizing #White_Supremacy As Part Of #Christian Faith dlvr.it/Q6GmRT pic.twitter.com/SHbnw5MA8u
https://twitter.com/rpfront/status/942082286761123841
Re Capetown Zero Day, reminds me of when I lived in Macedon, Vic in 1982. Water supplies were running out and everyone was restricted to 15 litres of water per person per day. Surprisingly, that was enough for personal consumption, washing clothes and quick showers.
It is no wonder that the Ash Wednesday fires (Feb 1983), were as bad as they were. Everything was tinder dry.
Sanders does damage to Trump’s base. They listen to him.
SenSanders: You know what Trump won’t be talking about in his State of the Union? He will surely not be apologizing for the many lies he told American voters: how he promised to defend the interests of working people, but then sold them out to Wall Street and the billionaire class.
MrDenmore: Yes, we should all take pride in our gun-runnin’, fossil fuel lovin’, aboriginal shovin’, refugee clubbin’, plutocrat huggin’ government twitter.com/workmanalice/s…
workmanalice: “The Greens… who seem to be ashamed by the nation of Australia” – PM Malcolm Turnbull tells Miranda Devine.
Cape Town is heading for an horrific situation where the city is about to run out of water.
https://thenewdaily.com.au/news/world/2018/01/29/cape-town-day-zero-water/
I bet there a lot of people in cape town that wish the government had built a desalination plant when the dams were low just in case they kept getting lower.
Socrates, diesel passenger cars now come equiped with diesel particle filter in their exhaust stream. From time to time, these filters heat up by burning extra fuel to burn the particles off.
The real problem is created by diesel trucks. Often I see them taking off from traffic lights with black plumes of soot emitting from their exhausts.
lizzie @ #25 Tuesday, January 30th, 2018 – 8:05 am
I’d say they don’t realise because, and this sounds elitist, I know, but they aren’t perspicacious enough, shall we say, to realise it!
It’s why I love, ‘Orange Is the New Black’ on Netflix so much. They do the back story on many of the women in the prison, and so it allows them to explore those sort of modern-day cultural stereotypes and how they have evolved and amongst which demographic of society. And there is definitely an ‘Upper Middle Bogan’ strata that sees ‘cosmetic enhancements’, as just that, enhancement of what would otherwise be very ordinary-looking people. Not that it makes them look better, or beautiful. I’d say, extraordinary is the best word to describe them. And they all do it, and they all do it because all the other people in their social circle are doing it, and it’s like one of the new ways to keep up with the Jones. Also, the bestest expression of our sick, wasteful First World. 🙂
guytaur
Australia is a regulated environment.
zoomster
Nope. Not compared to the EU.
Power goes out in Victoria, so the Liberals do what comes naturally. They lie.
http://reneweconomy.com.au/victorian-networks-blow-a-fuse-in-heatwave-coalition-blows-its-mind-on-twitter-94328/
I must admit though, that as you get older, your face loses it’s youthful prettiness and it’s a bitter pill to have to swallow. And I think it’s that that a lot of those women are trying to retain with all their lotions, cosmetics, added bits and pieces like false eyelashes, and, the ‘cosmetic enhancements’.
So, I think that the reason those women look so gross is because nothing is good enough, yet, to mimic Mother Nature. What they have are gross exaggerations of what they, and the manufacturers think is a natural recreation, plus a little, or a lot, more. 🙂
Socrates
There was a time when we in Aus ran our OWN government funded vehicle testing stations, which helped to drive down the emissions of our vehicles.
The drivers of this were a set of absolutely fantastic air quality scientists – chemists and meteorologists mostly who worked in government EPAs.
They were young, passionate and very, very, very smart. They emerged into government in the early 70s pushing to one side the more fusty public health people in the heath departments (but who were also in their own way good too, but in health departments it was still medicos rule, so he scientists had less clout).
During that time our emission levels fell dramatically in CO, Nox, SOx particularly and of course most significantly lead.
NSW (what a surprise) was the first to tumble of the quality scientist wagon, putting in charge of one of the nations very best air quality chemists two social workers, one of whom did not know what CO2 was the other who did not know what a Kg was. (I kid you not). On the day this fellow resigned, there was no farewell party organised by his OWN EPA, but he did get a note of praise and regret at his departure from the Chairman of the Victorian EPA. That little story tells its own tale.
Slowly the “angry young men” of the air quality departments have left the scene and there is now little in the way of expertise left in government who now rely on “consultants.”
God bless, John Wren! He’s almost as good at Twitter as Trump! But for the good guys. 🙂
C@t
Last year I watched a pseudo-doco on retired well-heeled ladies of Florida. In a group, I couldn’t believe how similar their faces were.
I wonder what image of female beauty (sic) the plastic surgeons have – or maybe they hate women!!
frednk @ #39 Tuesday, January 30th, 2018 – 8:24 am
Oh, but they are White Elephants that use too much electricity, just to keep them going! Said no-one ever when they really needed one. 🙂