A Galaxy poll for the Daily Telegraph has John Alexander clinging on to a 51-49 lead ahead of tomorrow’s Bennelong by-election, after a poll at the beginning of the campaign had it at 50-50. On the primary vote, Alexander is down two to 40% and Kristina Keneally is down one to 38%, with the Greens on 8%, Australian Conservatives on 7% and Christian Democratic Party on 3%. The sample is only 524, but the result is in line with a similar poll conducted by the same company but badged as Newspoll for The Australian earlier in the week.
Galaxy: 51-49 to Liberal in Bennelong
Another poll points to a cliffhanger in the make-or-break Bennelong by-election.
Trog Sorrenson (Block)
Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 10:31 am
Comment #195
Sorry to hear about your dog’s misfortune although I am never sure it should not be that you are the dog’s person and personal slave.
Good luck to both in any case. 😇
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2017/12/16/false-labor-and-the-birth-manus/15133428005653
Thanks KayJay
I thought these days were behind us. And the attackers are so young – 19 and 20 years old!
https://thewest.com.au/news/wa/grindr-thugs-jailed-over-violent-attacks-on-gay-men-ng-b88690695z
Has Turnbull blown the Asian Australian vote…..the Chinese apparently don’t approve of him…
https://twitter.com/OverTheHill4/status/941814459051339776
Fess
It will probably take another generation for attitudes to change all over the country.
Labor and asylum seekers..
https://www.thesaturdaypaper.com.au/opinion/topic/2017/12/16/false-labor-and-the-birth-manus/15133428005653
Katharine Murphy looks at what’s at stake for three political leaders as a result of Bennelong.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/dec/16/if-alexander-loses-bennelong-turnbull-will-slide-into-survival-mode
Trog Sorrenson @ #194 Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 10:31 am
Yes, we had this one. Cost us $1000 in surgery. It’s worth repeating the warning about corncobs. Do not even put corncobs in your compost and then use that compost on your garden. The corncobs do not decompose and your dog will just dig them up and eat them!
p1
You must have a cheaper vet.
The by-election has given Shorten a chance to sharpen his rhetoric.
Much better now.
Really good interview just on ABC news.
100% agree with the sentiment expressed here…….
https://twitter.com/venusboy1977/status/941818211649052673
Apologies if already posted – I just realised I need to do cartoons today. My links are a bit old, and so it took a while to get these together.
David Rowe’s take on the Fox / Disney merger
Matt Golding has a good take
David Pope on church and state responses to the Royal Commission
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
Alan Moir think that the ALP have crashed at years end
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/alan-moir-20150921-gjrcxr.html
Andrew Dyson inspired by the approach of Christmas
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/gallery-of-illustrations-by-fairfax-media-artist-andrew-dyson-20090819-epqv
John Kudelka on CBAs problems
From John Kudelka’s Calendar
Ron Tandberg on John Alexander’s new place in the Southern Highlands
Matt Golding on the by election
Matt Golding on level crossing removal
Matt Golding with Jacinda Ardern – must illustrate a story
Thank God I hate corn cobs. I assume that my dogs would take the cue from me. However, I also hate paralysis ticks, yet one of my dogs managed to get 36 of them in his shaggy coat. We walked out of the vet $850 to the worse, with a very nude looking dog!
Let’s hope that KK does us proud!
Trog Sorrenson @ #208 Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 10:51 am
I think most vet bills are done on weight, so probably just a smaller dog!
[brigid glanvilleVerified account @brigidglanville · 24m24 minutes ago
For full coverage and results of today’s By-Election tune in @abcnews 6pm kick off with @AntonyGreenABC, Labor’s Tony Burke and the Liberal’s Trent Zimmerman. #BennelongVotes]
lizzie:
Thank you for that reminder re Huawei. From 4 years ago:
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/business/in-depth/huawei-ruled-out-of-nbn-involvement-on-advice-from-asio/news-story/6e8bb6c51a2fda571cdcb173b30c9dbf
lizzie @ #215 Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 11:01 am
I hope the ABC can afford to give Antony Green a new abacus this time!
Basically a win for JA is only the start. The ‘consensus’ saying the Libs are actually pretty comfortable and 53-47 is agreed by both sides as the more likely position has basically made a tight Lib win (even a 51.9) a serious problem. If the consensus polling is overstating the Libs, then what does that say for the National Polling?
A 52 will be nasty for Turnbull as it is still a big scary swing in a situation where incumbents have had swings to them previously, and Labor and it’s supporters have demonstrated a taste of what is going to be thrown at every Coalition marginal at the next general election. But he will at least be able to bullshit enough CPG to get his ‘Summer Reset’ pushed as the beginning of the end of Shorten 7.0.
53 and above and the Libs will probably say Trumble on the campaign and his/there gutter campaigning makes a recovery possible.
I know it’s probably just wishful thinking, but the effort and energy Labor has put into this really makes me feel KK has got this one though.
On the issue of the youth vote, Bennelong is home to Macquarie Uni and so there is a lot of student accommodation around there. With a high Asian component. Obviously a lot of the foreign students won’t be voting, but the citizenship changes issue, Secondary Education cuts, and China bashing might have a pretty solid cut through in that demographic.
P1
Its not a good showing from Antony Green unless his computer messes up! (for general elections)
He normally doesnt get a full set on the news for a byelection so his computer doesnt get shown but I hear it will be tonight. We dont have a meme for this occurrence!
good luck with the lab Trog – they are great dogs
Thanks Jmc
You would expect YouGov to try to learn from the methodologies of Galaxy and Newspoll (and take it back to the UK) rather than stuff them up.
There must be a “Yougov” quote about the buyout that might explain their intentions. It would make for good content on a pseph site.
Question @ #223 Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 7:10 am
William mentioned it the other day but he didn’t seem to have much more than the take over had happened.
Purely based on my own feelpinions, I still think Alexander will most likely scrape home. But even if he wins with a majority of 53 or so, that would be a pretty awful result for the Coalition. If a swing like that was replicated nationally, it would be a historic landslide victory for Labor.
For Turnbull to be able to plausibly claim this as a win*, I reckon Alexander needs to win 55% of the TTP, at the very least.
*And, yes, I do realise that Turnbull will likely claim a victory even if Alexander only wins by a single vote.
Should be a Labor win today in Bennelong. Shorten has everything going for him with this by-election.
Let’s hope JA is heading for a Twayne wreck.
BigD,
Yes the only reason I know it happened is WB’s mention. I expect he will tell us more in one of his headers if the info comes to hand. Perhaps WB put up a link I didn’t have time to follow?
Douglas and Milko
Which street in Boronia Park do the rels live in?
In the 80s I had a house in Kennedy St – looking at the boundaries that house is now 100 meters inside the electorate.
Should be given the walk up start Labor has warrenpeace.
Trog et al
Thanks for the hint on the corn cobs potentially choking dogs. We will alter our composting arrangements and alert the dogs who own various members of our family.
D&M
The cartoon Disney/Fox – Murdoch looks lke Jim Molan.
Where’s Wayne? Oops, forgot. It’s Saturday, and the IPA don’t work on weekends. Only the poor and working class do.
ESJ
Hold up a tick. You think KK will win?
I like how both ALP and L-NP posters are positioning for a narrow loss. 🙂
I have absolutely no idea, but I’m predicting KK by one vote because I am an optimist and that would be a delicious result. Anyone who gets it right is just a lucky guess.
Question to Trog, Guytaur & Pegasus..
..is what I’m hearing about Green preferencing in Bennelong true? ..the Greens have apparently put Keneally 5th on their HTV ..as opposed to Keneally who has put the Greens candidate 2nd..
I do Ides of March, all things considered yes.
Good work Boerwar.
ESJ
Welp. I think you’ve got the kiss of death then.
Responses from earlier
Barney – right i did not click on the article. It was important.
Zoomster those who remained with the Presbyterians who did NOT go to the Uniting Church were the fundamentalists (and some old stagers still committed but largely ostracised) and this was heightened by the evangelical zeal of Korean Presbyterians.
Sorry forgot who re the Chinese in Bennelong. Yes there is a split between the Chinese but I think by and large those who are out here now come for economic reasons rather than political and mostly keep very strong links with their homes and families in China.
Well Markjs , someone has an eye on Batman don’t they ?
I suspect Alexander may sneak over the line.
I would then expect Turnbull to show up on the Sunday media and straight-faced declare that Bennelong was fought on local issues and the big swing to Labor has no Federal implications but Bill Shorten is the biggest loser.
Journalists will then ask him about Sam Dastyari …
mark,
As long as KK is before JA. I’m sure many Greens are ex-ALP and just go GRN 1, ALP 2 automatically.
Esj thinks a swing of less than 9% to labour is a massive win for Turnbull.
Marksj
Yes. Greens have preferenced a number of small left wing parties before Lab at 5. Said parties are likely to be eliminated from the count before the Greens. Dont expect much to come from it.
markjs
I would hope not.
I’m expecting kk to win mr Miller.
The donkeys will re-elect JA – unless the Conservatives are smart enough to realise that their best chance of getting rid of Turnbull is to vote for KK.
fair bit of look over there – look over there going on with Edward
If the Greens are putting KK at 5 that is ordinary