A Galaxy poll for the Daily Telegraph has John Alexander clinging on to a 51-49 lead ahead of tomorrow’s Bennelong by-election, after a poll at the beginning of the campaign had it at 50-50. On the primary vote, Alexander is down two to 40% and Kristina Keneally is down one to 38%, with the Greens on 8%, Australian Conservatives on 7% and Christian Democratic Party on 3%. The sample is only 524, but the result is in line with a similar poll conducted by the same company but badged as Newspoll for The Australian earlier in the week.
Galaxy: 51-49 to Liberal in Bennelong
Another poll points to a cliffhanger in the make-or-break Bennelong by-election.
The Tories still believe the public are on their side and they dont seem to get that voters have deserted the right wingers shortly after Abbott was elected. Yet they still bang on about how its what the public wants.They are seriously deluded and thats why the polls are not going to change for the Libs until theyre booted out.
Ides of March says:
Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 3:18 pm
lol. A lady kept interrupting Corey Bernardi telling him she wouldnt vote for ‘religious nutmegs’
Has Bernardi been out on the hustings?
Jeremy Gans @jeremy_gans
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But there is a problem for Danby, Dreyfus and (perhaps) Leeser: s116(2) of German’s Basic Law (its constitution) provides a pathway to restore citizenship of such people ‘and their descendants’.
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Bernardi is running a candidate in the byelection.
Fess
That appears to be an ‘on application’ argument. Its not by descent. You have to apply for it. Ergo you may not be in trouble.
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The ABCs program ‘Foreign Correspondent’ is not captioned.
Ides of March says:
Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 3:30 pm
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Bernardi is running a candidate in the by-election.
Ys, but has he been present himself?
I’m with ESJ on the meaning of the outcome tonight.
Politics is about winning. A moral victory, the voters “sending a message to Turnbull”, exceeding expectations and all that kind of stuff are feel-good sentiments but the only result that will really shock the Liberals to their core will be them losing. They can spin away a narrow victory with a big swing but a loss of any kind would be magnitudes of horrible worse for them than a one vote win on count back.
ESJ
> “Presumably if Turnbull goes down tonight the liberals wil
End up adopting a Rudd 2013type reform for the same reason.”
The leadership rules cannot prevent challenges.
If a challenger has the numbers then he or she can simply walk into the leader’s office and say that the leader doesn’t have the confidence of caucus anymore & the leader should either resign or call a leadership ballot. If the leader refuses then they’ll be faced with resignations from the (shadow) ministry and public calls from them to go. Most leaders will find it impossible to resist the pressure.
I think the NSW ALP had Rudd 2013 type rules in place before the 2015 election, but that couldn’t prevent John Robertson from losing the leadership when he lost the confidence of the caucus.
Drawn and quartered, head on a pike, quick smart.
No ifs, no buts.
Jeez, it must piss them all off, no end, to see Julia getting accolades for a Royal Commission, that all those weak-kneed, pedo-protecting, former PMs were so afraid of doing.
Men are so stupid, sometimes.
Bernardi is as outdated as flared trousers in the 80s.
Actually Bennelong was quite well represented in the Caymans particularly in the Panama papers but also the Paradise papers. Idiot white men, actually you know who was over represented … shhhhhh
Headline Idea for William or Kevin:
Kristina Keneally Is Just A Normal Polling Error Away From A Win In Bennelong
Labor has its own dark paedo history Keith wright, Darcy etc
Rather than just copy/pasting perhaps Confessions can actually say why she posted the German Basic Law excerpt.
As it stands it is cryptic, and communicates only that Confessions can (a) read twitter, and (b) copy/paste to PB blog.
Perhaps she is just encouraging PBers to now look up the ancestry of the three named politicians on Google for themselves to see just how these pollies or their parents or their grandparents fit into the Law quoted.
I would be surprised if even one PBer could quote the ancestry of those three without research, given that they have not at all been at the forefront of the (citizenship) names named.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-16/asylum-seekers-win-right-to-pursue-compensation-in-png/9265078
Thought ESJ had departed but ESJ is like Abbott.Keeps turning up like a bad penny.
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Yes, hes in Bennelong today with his candidate.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/health-science/cdc-gets-list-of-forbidden-words-fetus-transgender-diversity/2017/12/15/f503837a-e1cf-11e7-89e8-edec16379010_story.html?hpid=hp_hp-top-table-main_cdc-725pm%3Ahomepage%2Fstory&utm_term=.18651dc378eb
Proving yet again that in America, you can be armed. Just not with the facts.
Question, self appointed know-alls can be very handy. Especially when you don’t have coverage and cannot use Google.
Do all these Chinese voters in Bennelong support the Chinese government? Aren’t they out here because they don’t like the Chinese system? Turnbull’s attacks are on the Chinese system rather than the Chinese race. Are Chinese people in Bennelong upset by Turnbull’s targetting Chinese government influence?
Ides:
Jeremy Gans has some interesting tweets on the subject, and explains his reasoning:
https://twitter.com/jeremy_gans
Check it out if you’re interested.
Inaugural speeches of newest Greens parliamentarians in Victoria (MLC Samantha Rathnam and MLA Lidia Thorpe) and federal (Senator Jordon Steele-John and Senator Andrew Bartlett):
https://greens.org.au/magazine/national/first-speeches-our-newest-mps
Ides of March says:
Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 3:40 pm
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Yes, hes in Bennelong today with his candidate.
Thanks. It will be interesting to see how they go, and whether their votes come at the expense of the CDP or the Liberals or both.
Hola Bludgers from my couch! I never made it to the by-election because I was struck down overnight with one of my semi-regular allergic reactions to something I ate yesterday and so got up this morning only to be dizzy, nauseous and tired. I’ve only just woken up fully.
I see Dio is trying to spin a near death experience ‘win’ by Alexander as some sort of glorious triumph for Dear Leader Turnbull. Lol.
PeeBee,
The self-appointed-know-it-all’s I have in mind are rarely right, and serve only to impede good conversation with dubious opinion stated as fact 🙂
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I think hes already bitten a big chunk out of the CDP.
Heard Antony Green on ABC RN news this afternoon wtte Bennelong will be won by the candidate who gains the higher primary vote because preference flows (80%) from B’s Cons to Alexander and Greens to KK will essentially cancel each other out.
C@t:
Oh no! I hope you feel better now.
…Because on the day of the Bennelong by-election we’re jonesing to read the maiden speeches of some Greens. 😉
Ides of March says:
Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 3:50 pm
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I think hes already bitten a big chunk out of the CDP.
It seems so, looking at the polls. They need much more than that to get off the ground.
C@tmomma
At least you’re honest.
Hope you’re feeling better; and despite your affliction, Labor wins Bennelong.
Take it easy, though. I know you’ve put in a grand effort.
Al Pal – prepolls cast within the electorate (which is nearly all of them) are ordinary votes and should be counted tonight. Postal process starts tomorrow. See http://www.aec.gov.au/bennelong/counting-process.htm
C@t….sounds ‘orrible…hope you’re over the worst…
I don’t think this result will have any real effect on either leader.
The L-NP don’t have any talent.
The ALP went through Turnbull’s honeymoon, which was far worse than what a conservative seat could dish up, without even a whisper.
A loss would make it very difficult for the L-NP to gather any momentum, and much harder for them to do the one-rule-for-you and another-rule-for-us on s44. I’m not sure that is such a smart move anyway.
Peg
If the candidate with the higher PV is going to be the winner, unfortunately that is going to be JA.
The self-appointed-know-it-all’s I have in mind are rarely right, and serve only to impede good conversation with dubious opinion stated as fact
Exactly, and they usually become abusive and dismissive if challenged.
I wonder what impact (if any) the SSM outcome will have on voters today.
FFS people – ignore election betting – it follows the polls and if single seat polls are unreliable, so are the odds.
WWP
No need to wait for a white woman to do it. Just think Bronwyn Bishop, Julie Bishop, Michaelia Cash, Sophie Mirabella, Kelly O’Dwyer, Sussan Ley, Gina Rinehart, Miranda Divine, Peta Credlin, Michele Bachman, just for starters and tell me if that lot don’t fit your description of “stupidity, privilege and unearned sense of entitlement”.
And then for good measure you can throw in the millions of women who will vote for the LNP at the next election and who voted for Trump in the USA and May in the UK. The evidence is all around you and you don’t have to look very hard to find it.
‘fess,
Not entirely better yet but I’m used to it. So I start by having Vegemite toast and some salad, then a light meal tonight.
It all started with my Hyperemesis Gravidarum throughout my first pregnancy. I was the original skinny baby momma, weighing less by the end of the pregnancy than when I started! I could only keep down chicken and rice and toast by the end. Everything else I threw up!
briefly, it’s not that bad, I am in a quasi dream-like state as if dizzy with love!
Anyhoo, I just didn’t want to be the ‘human interest’ story at the poll today if I fainted. =)
C@tmomma says:
Saturday, December 16, 2017 at 4:07 pm
briefly, it’s not that bad, I am in a quasi dream-like state as if dizzy with love!
lol…will probably wear off then 🙂
Kevin B
Thank you for the response and the link.
C@tmomma (AnonBlock)
Saturday, December 16th, 2017 – 3:49 pm
Comment #473
Take it easy and get well soon. ❣
C@t:
Sounds very nasty!
Thanks kezza2. It’s a predictable script I’m running to. ^_^
Btw, hope you and yours are going well after your recent ‘downsides’.
‘fess,
It’s a bit Migrainey, is the closest approximation.
Turnbull reported earlier today saying that everyone should read the final report of the royal commission.
It’s 17 volumes.
Typical turkey talk.
I feel so relieved and hopeful. The Pope has said the the church would look into the report from the CA royal commission.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-12-16/pope-francis-responds-to-royal-commission-report/9265466