So there you have it. Below is a tool for exploring the results at divisional level according to a range of electoral and demographic criteria. Take your pick from the drop down menu, and you will get divisional “yes” votes recorded on the vertical axis, and their results for the relevant indicator on the vertical axis. Most of these are self-explanatory, with the exception of “One Nation support index”. This equals the division’s 2016 Senate vote for One Nation divided by the party’s overall Senate vote in that state, multiplied by 100. So an electorate will score 100 if its One Nation vote is exactly equal to the state average; it will score 200 if it’s double; 50 if it’s half; and so forth. This is to prevent the party’s across-the-board high results in Queensland from spoiling the effect. “Finished school” is measured as a percent of the 15-plus population.
Most of the Sydney seats voting no are labour held with the exception of Greenway and Bennelong. I think most of their members are yes voters (Jason Clare, Chris Bowen, Tony Burke, Julie Owens, Ed Husic
I think people will differentiate between this survey and a vote at the ballot box.
If the postal survey was an actual, fair dinkum referendum it would’ve passed. Majority Yes vote plus all states/territories recording majority Yes.
Alan Joyce’s partner is pretty cute. 🙂
I should of added…Newspoll and Essential are proof people can and will differentiate.
LOL!
Yes, the No campaign should be very proud of a result which – in a general election – would be a historic wipe-out for any party that recieved it.
Whacko for the SSM result!
But a couple of great under stories as well.
79.5% overall participation rate. Bigger than UK Brexit and USA Presidential. Makes Australia the leading real participatory democracy.
190,000 young people put their names on the Electoral Roll so they could vote. These will be voting at the next election. No prizes for guessing which way.
Whacko indeed!
Those No electorates:
If you look at the survey response rate in Williams tool above it highlights clearly the issues in accessing remote areas of the Country.
Poor Lingiari looks very lonely!
Well done Dean Smith!
It’s interesting that most of the ‘No’ seats were the ethnically diverse ones in Sydney and Melbourne. They’re basically the seats with the highest proportions of Muslims, Asians, Italians, etc.
In contrast, most of the rural conservative seats seem to have ended up voting ‘Yes’.
:kiss:
It’s a well known phenomena that the children of migrants adopt ‘Australian values’, almost regardless of how orthodox their parents are.
Yep. The kids go to school, make friends with, get jobs with, hook up with, get married to people from outside their immigrant communities.
The more they are exposed to other ways of living the more they embrace them. Basic socialisation but also generally a less restrictive life. Each generation simply becomes more and more like the general population.
The nickname for our location is the Rainbow Coast.
Turns out to have special significance today with 56% of O’Connor voters voting Yes.
The Daily Telegraph has some interesting raw material here for their self-styled “Champion of the West” posture.
But what I want to know is whether if a Muslim baker refuses to bake a gay wedding cake, does the gay couple have the right to refuse it anyway because it’s halal?
Now, how to persuade the 52% of voters in New England who voted ‘yes’ to vote for Labor? Hmmm…
In light of the results in most of the Western Sydney electorates, I wonder of Pauline Hanson now wishes there had been more immigrants from majority Muslim countries?
C@tmomma @ #104 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 10:46 am
Joyce when asked about his marriage plans said he’s still waiting for him to propose to him. !
What is the “demographic” of Blaxland ? 73.9% NO !!!
The top 10 electorates voting “Yes” – Sydney, Melbourne, Melbourne Ports, Wentworth, Grayndler, Brisbane, Higgins, Griffith, Goldstein, Warringah – all returned double digit primary votes for Greens ranging from 12.19% (Warringah) to 43.75% (Melbourne).
JimmyD @ #116 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 6:54 am
Or at least vote for someone else and put Barnaby last.
Guess that silent majority stayed silent :P.
Australian Christian Lobby’s Lyle Shelton, seeking to interpret the result, has said the yes side has “been campaigning for many, many years”, as opposed to the no side, which has only had three months.
Suck it up Lyle . . . and then skulk out of our lives!
Watching the conservatives pivot in the face of the results is really something.
ratsak @ #113 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 10:52 am
Especially school where peer identification is extra strong, and just being a bit trivial, I love the strong aussie accent coming from their mouths.
BK @ #123 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 11:02 am
BK, the NO side has been campaigning for centuries one way or another
It’s times like these I wish I’d kept links to all those works of so-called journalism that kept telling us how the Yes case was losing the campaign. You know the ones – “The Yes case is in danger of falling off the rails”, “The Yes vote is in freefall”, etc. etc. etc.
BK @ #123 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 7:02 am
Bullsh!t, the “NO” side has been campaigning for centuries!
They just need to accept that Society has reached a point where it rejects their prejudice. 🙂
(add to my earlier comment) … in the 2016 Fed election
Well I live in Western Sydney…what can you say..?
They like it straight in bed and their politics red
This result really highlights that Australians vote by class, not identity. Those no voting electorates in Sydney will continue to vote Labor, even when their MPs vote in favour of marriage equality.
Wentworth 4th strongest YES – 81%
Magda Z made an interesting point that everyone has a minority something in them.
JimmyD: And the same in the opposite direction with Warringah. The alternate explanation is that economic policy trumps social policy for most.
Greensborough Growler is conspicuously absent today.
I wonder if those Labor electorates would have voted Yes had Shorten not been leader …
You there Rex?
Seriously, it will be interesting watching the cheer squads spin this. No doubt some will see it as a victory for Turnbull, despite the fact he sat on the fence and his enemies will still try to stymie the legislation.
Give it a year and it will be total ‘meh’.
Jimmy D excellent point. It’s the signpost to what elections are won and lost on isn’t it. Not social or identity issues but hard economics and a solid plan for the nation.
Caf – exactly. The voters of Warringah will continue to hold their noses and vote for Abbott.
shiftaling
“Not social or identity issues but hard economics and a solid plan for the nation.”
Exactly right. We’re not America.
Abbott’s statement, whilst hinting at further action to come, is more gracious than some others.
So, Voluntary Assisted I’m Outta Here the next little squirmish (sic). The NSW legislation gets put to the Upper House tomorrow I think.
George Brandis, commenting on Draco Malfoy’s alternative SSM Bill:
“If it’s legally and morally wrong to discriminate against one gay person, I don’t know how it becomes right to discriminate against two.”
Good old George – showing more and more signs of the small-l liberal that he was reputed to be when first elected. I thought for a while he’d totally caved in to the RWNJs. but he actually still has a spine. Setting a good example for his “leader”.
Shiftaling – totally agree. The class explanation also goes some way to explaining why it’s been so hard for Parliament to resolve this issue.
Of course Trumble is going to try and claim credit for others cleaning up the mess he made.
It will be laughed at like his claim his capitulation to Shorten on dual nat disclosure was a triumph.
The man’s a dickhead.
Essential showed a higher percentage than the yes vote rejecting the idea of the plebifarce. People voted just wishing the Parliament had done it’s damn job. The ongoing efforts by the loons to reject the clear intent of the population will only reinforce what a farce the entire thing was and how a proper leader would have had this issue sorted years ago.
The win has many champions. Trumble is not and never will be recognised as one of them.
I was an “in danger of falling off the rails” skeptic. Glad to see the “Yes” camp took the campaign seriously.
I spoke to a fair few people in my area who were on the “religious freedom”and “can’t trust a politician” bandwagons. The electorates up this way were:
Berowra (54.7% Yes);
Bennelong (49.8% Yes);
Greenway: (46.4% Yes);
… so the negative attitudes to SSM and the Survey itself that I gleaned were, shall we say, not inaccurate.
In Sydney we seem to have a religiously or socially conservative belt of electorates (most of them Labor seats… gulp!) that aren’t so “enlightened” as many other electorates are.
My guess is that the “freedom” pitch put out by the IPA types didn’t have much sway – certainly not in “white Australian” electorates (look at Abbott’s 75% Yes result) – but that the religious conservatism angle did in “non-white Australian” electorates, with a good dollop of homophobia added for flavour.
Being heterosexual doesn’t mean you’re homophobic, but I suspect a lot of religious types – of all faiths – do see it exactly that way.
Anyway, interesting times ahead for those Labor member who scored No votes in the local electorates. Some of the results were so heavily No that you get the feeling that anti-SSM attitudes might spill over into general political positions among the voters. Local members had better tread a wary path.
Jack Aranda
“George Brandis, commenting on Draco Malfoy’s alternative SSM Bill:”
Heh heh. I like that one. Fits like a glove.
Give it a month and it will be total ‘meh’.
The first couple of weddings in December will be news. Then Bennelong and Christmas and it simply won’t be a thing worthy of noticing. Maybe a mention on the anniversary, but it will only be a tiny minority of the No voters that will be still in anyway strongly engaged in the issue come New Year’s Day.
ratsak
The original line was give it a year. Not month. Apart from that, I agree with your post.