So there you have it. Below is a tool for exploring the results at divisional level according to a range of electoral and demographic criteria. Take your pick from the drop down menu, and you will get divisional “yes” votes recorded on the vertical axis, and their results for the relevant indicator on the vertical axis. Most of these are self-explanatory, with the exception of “One Nation support index”. This equals the division’s 2016 Senate vote for One Nation divided by the party’s overall Senate vote in that state, multiplied by 100. So an electorate will score 100 if its One Nation vote is exactly equal to the state average; it will score 200 if it’s double; 50 if it’s half; and so forth. This is to prevent the party’s across-the-board high results in Queensland from spoiling the effect. “Finished school” is measured as a percent of the 15-plus population.
Same-sex marriage survey: 61.6 yes, 38.4 no
And the winner is …
zoomster @ #1194 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 5:55 pm
No surprises there 🙁
I believe the Bernadi abortions motion was specifically for terminations based on gender. Still indefensible but not a general ban.
From ABC online earlier this week Bernadi :
“asked the Senate to note that the Ottoman Empire’s siege of Vienna was broken in 1529 and Viennese coffee houses created croissants to celebrate the defeat of the so-called “army of the crescent”.
It included a comment that despite the lifting of the siege, “violence and oppression against liberal-democracy and other faiths by Islamists has continued into our own time”.
That motion called on all politicians to “enjoy a croissant with their coffee this week in solidarity with the defenders of liberalism and freedom“
sonar @ #1197 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 5:58 pm
All you’ve got are feel pinions.
All I’ve got is the scoreboard of success.
**I expect him to get us to the World Cup! Mission accomplished.**
If that is ‘mission accomplished’ then Postecoglou would not have become coach in the first place.
C@tmomma @ #1196 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 4:59 pm
Cat,
She is the so called Minister for Women as well as the Minister for Employment.
Words don’t escape me but my mother instilled a sense of decorum in me; so I won’t call her a …….
C@tmomma @ #1189 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 4:48 pm
Yes indeed. Their description is apt, it’s certainly “full on anti Newman-Nicholls-Hanson”.
My concern is that it’s all negative content. Not a word about what Labor actually plans to do post-election.
May play well with the base, but I can’t see it winning back anyone who’s considering giving the LNP or PHON a chance.
No surprises there
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Well the Coalition has worked very hard on it!
I don’t think there’s a word low enough to describe her.
BK @ #1206 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 6:11 pm
They deserve a Darwin Award. The only problem is that we all get to share in the winnings.
Didn’t see it mentioned here, but the wage growth figures came out yesterday.
The expected figure was 0.7% for the quarter, but the figure was 0.5%.
The annualized figure is still 2%, budget forcast is 2.5%
It looks like wage growth will continue flat, and in real terms negative. Though the is expected to fall due to a ‘rebalancing ‘ of the measures used to calculate it.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-15/wage-price-index-november-2017/9151986
Since she’s Minister for Women (has she spoken to any recently?) perhaps she was thinking of male abortions (yes, I know).
She’s so unfeeling she would make a good apprentice to Mesma.
Simon Katich @ #1203 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 6:08 pm
They picked the best guy for the job and he delivered.
That you can only whinge incessantly is just you playing to form!
That ignorant peasant Canavan just said in the Senate “It is the case that all the polls show that the majority of Australians do want to see strong protections for religion and human rights, and also for parental choice as well.”
If he wants to rely on polls then why did he and his nutter mates need a survey?
Pathetic!
CtaR1
A reverse Matabele effect?
Look at me; look at me says Bernardi; I am a rwnj and I am relevant.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/nov/16/cory-bernardis-provocative-motions-on-abortion-divide-coalition
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/green-andrew-bartlett-under-eligibility-cloud-after-just-four-days-in-the-senate-20171116-gzmjre.html
Thank you, John Reidy for the clarification. Still!…
One would think that the Code of Ethics For Medical Practitioners forbade them from doing gender-based abortions anyway. So what was the real point?
The bigoted fool Canavan also wants Christian Rock bands to be able to turn down Same Sex Weddings.
Enshrined in law!
It doesn’t need to be enshrined in law, gays have got more taste than that!
JR
What proportion of wage earners would be getting falls in real wages? Any idea? Most?
LOL 😀
Oh and we were talking earlier that casual teachers wouldn’t be hit by s44 under this HC?
All we learnt from Sykes was that it extended to full time teachers (Cleary) AT LEAST. Now it’s clear that you don’t even need to have a full time job. I don’t see this HC (or any tbf) making any distinction at all between a permanent part time position and a casual position.
Sorry zoomster, I reckon you’re out 😉
mikehilliard @ #1220 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 6:38 pm
Apparently, Homosexual Marriage did!
I don’t know what the proportion is, but I reckon it’s a pretty safe bet to start at the bottom of the wage distribution and work up past the median. How far past is the question.
ratsak
Would a general statement like ‘most Australian wage earners are getting falling real wages’ be more or less on the mark?
GG
Very droll.
If it’s any help to anyone, I’ve always refused casual teaching work during election campaigns, and I’m not intending to run for the Senate, so I’m safe atm.
ratsak @ #1221 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 6:42 pm
As I said yesterday, the HC is sending a message to the Pollies in Canberra that they can only interpret the law as she is. They have the Legislative responsibility to remedy the farce!
Greensborough Growler @ #1212 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 6:30 pm
Yeah can’t understand the Postecoglou dislike. He says what he thinks and doesn’t give a shit about the media, which you have to admire.
The primary reason for gender based terminations, at least in the public health system in Victoria,is gender based genetically transmitted serious to profound disorders. This would occur after genetic counselling addressing the risk of transmission, including the results of tests for same.
ML
Thank you for that.
https://mobile.twitter.com/FinancialReview/status/931050451323166720/photo/1
David Rowe
Boerwar
It took several attempts as some how the format for submitting posts has changed. Very puzzling.
It certainly made the Bernardi move look extremely ill-informed.
Joking aside, why would Cash refuse to back those abortions?
ML
Yep. Add ‘vicious’ to that.
Boerwar
I certainly wouldn’t exclude vicious, but stupidly ill-informed and ideologically driven to the exclusion of evidence is right up there.
lizzie
Ms Cash belongs to the ideological, bugger the evidence cohort of the RWNJ. She, in my view, is particularly vicious.
lizzie @ #1233 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 3:06 pm
There exists no rational reason, hence her and the others support! 🙁
The gender abortion motion is a Trojan horse to force women to give a reason as to why they are seeking an abortion.
Next step is counselling before they proceed including colour photos of foetuses to view then waiting periods after this before they can proceed.
Next is approval from psychiatrist and independent doctor.
Cory was testing the waters
Even a part time appointment to the AAT is a permanent statutory appointment – quite different from a casual employee.
Boris
Cory was testing the waters
Looks that way to me. He now knows who his LNP allies are & perhaps there might be more.
Mike
Zed cash cormann et Al belong in Cities conservative party, he whistled and they came running.
Cory’s
Rowe is a genius
Bernardi is trying the Tea Party tactics he went to the US to learn. The problem for him and his supporters is that the Marriage Equality plebithingy went so spectacularly wrong for them. Despite our flaws, this is not the US. Thankfully.
mikehilliard @ #1240 Thursday, November 16th, 2017 – 3:31 pm
Maybe also there was a message to Malcolm not to push the RWNJs too hard.
What’s really clear is that the right is deeply divisive and the more the likes of Bernardi and Phon, if they don’t as usual implode, wreak havoc, the more likely Turnbull will be turfed. If they put in someone like Dutton, they’re toast. He’s repulsive.
I really can’t see why the RWNJs are getting so exercised about the SSM bill affecting freedom of religion.
Even if it did do so (which it won’t), any restriction of freedom of religion would be invalid in terms of Section 116 of the Constitution:
116. Commonwealth not to legislate in respect of religion
The Commonwealth shall not make any law for establishing any religion, or for imposing any religious observance, or for prohibiting the free exercise of any religion, and no religious test shall be required as a qualification for any office or public trust under the Commonwealth.
Therefore the only possible explanation for all their goings on is a cover to gut anti-discrimination laws.
Can I argue that legislating to allow businesses to discriminate against gay customers amounts to making a law that imposes a religious observance and is therefore Unconstitutional?