Essential Research: 54-46 to Labor; YouGov: 52-48

Essential has Malcolm Turnbull losing ground on personal approval, but not voting intention; YouGov does the opposite.

No change on voting intention this week from Essential Research, with Labor continuing to lead 54-46 on two-party preferred (UPDATE: Actually, it was 53-47 last week. Labor is up a point on the primary vote to 38%, the Coalition is down one to 36%, the Greens are down one to 9%, One Nation is steady on 8%). Monthly leadership ratings confirm Newspoll’s picture of declining personal support for Malcolm Turnbull, who is down five on approval to 37% and up six on disapproval to 49%. However, Bill Shorten hasn’t done brilliantly either, being down two on approval to 35% and up four on disapproval to 48%, and making only a slight dent in Turnbull’s 42-28 lead as preferred prime minister, which now stands at 40-28.

Other findings:

• Forty per cent approve of a requirement that for MPs to provide declarations about their eligibility, while 44% say this does not go far enough. Forty-nine per cent say MPs found to have been invalidly elected should should repay their public funding, compared with 30% who thought otherwise.

• Forty-five per cent felt the same-sex marriage postal survey was a bad process that should not be repeated; 19% felt it good, but not one that should be repeated; and 27% thought it a good process that should be used more often.

We only have the report from the Guardian to go on at this point, with primary votes to follow with the publication of Essential’s full report later today.

The fortnightly Fifty Acres-YouGov poll records a break to Labor, who are now 52-48 in front after uncharacteristically trailing 51-49 in their last few polls. However, the pollster’s distinguishing peculiarity – the strength of support recorded for minor parties – is more pronounced than ever, as the Coalition sinks five to 31% and Labor only picks up one to 34%, with One Nation up two to 11% and the Greens up one to 11%. As usual, the two-party total is based on a respondent-allocated preference flow that gives three-quarters of the One Nation vote to the Coalition.

The pollster also has its occasional personal ratings for a range of politicians, which are unusual in being relatively favourable over all, and having low uncommitted ratings. Contrary to the other pollsters, Malcolm Turnbull records little change since early September, with approval steady at 44% and disapproval down one to 47%. Bill Shorten is up two on approval to 45% and down two to 44%, and Pauline Hanson’s ratings are not unlike those of the major party leaders, with approval up three to 45% and down two on disapproval to 48%. Also featured: Richard Di Natale (up three to 29%, down six to 33%), Nick Xenophon (up one to 53%, steady on 28%), Bob Katter (up one to 37%, steady on 41%), Tony Abbott (up two to 36%, down one to 56%) and Christopher Pyne (steady on 32%, up one to 45%).

Other findings are that respondents want same-sex marriage legalised straight away if the survey result is yes, though 42% think opponents should vote with their consciences in parliament; they overwhelmingly favour a “full parliamentary audit” on Section 44; and they want a much harder line on tax avoidance and evasion.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

969 comments on “Essential Research: 54-46 to Labor; YouGov: 52-48”

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  1. Zeh @ #735 Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 – 6:58 pm

    OK, so I was in the shower and for whatever reason had a thought about the HC and ‘reasonable steps’ regarding the eligibility of the Labor members. I would like to know what other bludgers/legal eagles think of the following logic.
    Putting timelines in context, and thinking slightly outside the box (or rather, inside), the reasonable steps determined by Labor’s lawyers and followed by candidates would have been based on the best understanding of the HC’s interpretation of S44.
    At that time it would have been the Sykes & Cleary ruling. As such, it would be unreasonable to expect said lawyers and candidates to have predicted a future HC ruling, such has been handed down recently. In this sense could it be argued that the current ruling should be disqualified from being applied to those members’ ‘reasonable steps’ test, as the current ruling was not available at the time?

    You highlight that in areas that the HC has not ruled the only option is operate on opinion.

    The problem with opinion is, it can be a wrong one.

    And as a result you were wrong in doing what you did.

    Sorry, not a defence.

  2. meh, I agree with you.

    The HC has been trying to ensure that 44(i) does not prevent Australians from exercising their political rights. To this end, the court has made a point of saying that the operation of foreign laws should not determine the operation of 44(i) and has found a way to exempt dual citizens from otherwise “peremptory” disqualification.

    They will fortify this exemption if the circumstances of K,L and S, among others, are referred to them.

    The clearest enunciation of this is made in Canavan:

    http://eresources.hcourt.gov.au/downloadPdf/2017/HCA/45

    [39] …. all members of the Court in Sykes v Cleary accepted that s 44(i) does not contemplate that foreign law can be determinative of the operation of s 44(i)37. An Australian court will not apply s 44(i) to disqualify by reason of foreign citizenship where to do so would be to undermine the system of representative and responsible government established under the Constitution.

  3. Diogenes @ #718 Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 – 9:06 pm

    I don’t understand the huge backlash against Hannity about Moore. This is what I read about it:

    [“Every single person in this country deserves the presumption of innocence,” Hannity said. “With the allegations against Judge Moore, none of us know the truth of what happened 38 years ago. The only people that would know are the people involved in this incident.”

    The Fox News host added that Moore “should step aside and leave the Senate race” if the allegations are true.]

    Is that so horrendous? Hannity is a total knob but that quote those comments could easily be have made here about any number of people without a pile-on.

    A couple of things:

    1. The presumption of innocence is only relevant to criminal sanctions. Insofar as anyone is saying that Moore should experience those (not that I’m saying anyone actually is) I agree with (that part of) Hannity’s comment. And it’s why he will never be arrest or face any criminal charges, let alone punishment. However if the question is whether or not Moore meets the ethical standard required by Congress, there’s no presumption of innocence and Hannity is out of line.

    2. I think the biggest part of the backlash would be due to the “if the allegations are true” that he tacked on there. That simultaneously implies that all the people who have spoken out against Moore and all the others who have provided circumstantial evidence corroborating the allegations are liars, and sends a coded message to Moore along the lines of “it’s okay, just keep running and deny everything because nobody can conclusively prove anything about anything that happened 30+ years ago”. It’s disingenuous and victim-shaming and rug-sweeping-under all at the same time.

    All told it’s pretty bad. Most for the second thing, and particularly the part where a large number of people (victimized people, at that) are being dismissed as outright liars in favor of one person who didn’t even do a very good job of defending himself when asked. If people want to be pissed at Hannity, I have no problem with it.

  4. My gut feel is that the High Court will look to interpret the renunciation steps in a way that doesn’t ask more than proof of the execution of the renunciation papers and related requirements by the person renouncing. I can’t see them opting for a ruling that depends in any way of the subsequent actions of the renounced country other than where it may be clearly seen that there were serious deficiencies in the attempt, e.g. form not signed, cheque bounced, etc.

    They will be adding significantly to the law on this one, whichever way they go, so I’d be surprised if they don’t opt for something that is workable for all potential candidates.

    If not, then Alexander is already cactus.

    Which reminds me, the story of Joyce’s second inherited foreign citizenship via his maternal Gran has been quiet. Did I miss something. Did he renounce that one or was it all an urban myth?

  5. Zeh said: “. …… As such, it would be unreasonable to expect said lawyers and candidates to have predicted a future HC ruling, such has been handed down recently. ”

    Lawyers would definitely have predicted that there would be another HC ruling. That’s how case law is developed. And all competent lawyers will also be able to predict with a high probability of accuracy just how the law will develop in the future, because they can track the case-progression of the law up till the current time and because they can understand and decipher the intricacies of the developing “trend”. And also because that’s their expertise, that’s their job.

    The new question for the HC now to consider is the status of those who have properly renounced but have not received acceptance of the renunciation before the election.

    Lawyers know that the law strongly disfavours uncertainty, and that the many predictions on PB over recent days that the HC will allow Candidate A to be “in” because s/he did the renunciation some months well before nomination day, but Candidate B will be “out” because s/he was slack and renounced only a fortnight before nomination day (both having not yet received a formal reply) will not come to fruition. Too much uncertainty …..

    Instead, the HC will make an objective statement extending the law, for example that the completion and transmission of all reasonable renunciation steps required by the foreign country and completed by nomination day, in the absence of a formal reply will suffice or will not suffice.

    Alternatively the HC could simply rule that the formal renunciation acceptance by the foreign country must have occurred before election day. I doubt that that will occur because it would be handing the power to the foreign country (and its admin processes) to influence our elections, something that the HC has already expressly disfavoured in earlier cases.

  6. Additional thing:

    3. Where were Hannity’s nice words about the presumption of innocence when mobs of people were chanting “lock her up” over Clinton’s e-mails? Or during birtherism? I think he’s being rather selective in terms of who needs to have their guilt proven first and who can just proceed straight to the stake for burning.

  7. Psyclaw @ #760 Tuesday, November 14th, 2017 – 9:59 pm

    Zeh said: “. …… As such, it would be unreasonable to expect said lawyers and candidates to have predicted a future HC ruling, such has been handed down recently. ”

    Instead, the HC will make an objective statement extending the law, for example that the completion and transmission of all reasonable renunciation steps required by the foreign country and completed by nomination day, in the absence of a formal reply will suffice or will not suffice.

    Alternatively the HC could simply rule that the formal renunciation acceptance by the foreign country must have occurred before election day. I doubt that that will occur because it would be handing the power to the foreign country (and its admin processes) to influence our elections, something that the HC has already expressly disfavoured in earlier cases.

    I agree with what you say regarding the HC is looking for certainty in any model that they apply.

    This seemed to be an area where the Government got into real trouble in the last round of cases where their construction was easily shown to lack certainty.

    In the renunciation process I see two points that provide absolute markers in the process.

    1. The date of acknowledgement of your application by the Country;
    and
    2. The date of renouncement.

    There is only one relevant date that these can be applied to, the close of nominations.

    So a construction that said, “if acknowledgement of your application has been received before the close of nominations you are eligible to stand.”

    Alternatively if date 2 was the critical date the construction would be “if you are a citizen of another country you are not eligible to stand.”

    Both these constructions provide a basis where someone can say with absolute certainty that they are eligible or not to stand in the coming election.

    As to which one it is that’s for the HC.

  8. Alternatively the HC could simply rule that the formal renunciation acceptance by the foreign country must have occurred before election day.

    Note, there could be several weeks difference between “formal renunciation acceptance by the foreign country” and when the person receives notification of successful renunciation.

    At what point does a renunciation application become irreversible?
    e.g. 1) posting of the form and payment; 2)receipt of the form and payment; 3) at some stage during the processing of the renunciation form; 4)sending of the notification of successful renunciation 5)receipt of the notification of successful renunciation.

    A person will cease being a citizen at some point between 1 and 5, but won’t know when it happened. If the HC decides on 4 or 5 then that might well exclude candidates who were not dual citizens at the time.

  9. briefly

    Moore is a gun-toting, bible-bashing sexist, racist, homophobe. This should be enough to disqualify him.

    Yep, but by US standards he’s not unusual in RW politics.

    Trying to use our standards to evaluate US politicians needs a big taking into account that the centre of politics there is well to the right.

    What we may think is appalling is just distasteful to them.

  10. I don’t think that Mugabe is going to be able to ‘hand over’ to his current wife.

    Things have been coming to a head particularly over the last 5 years. Zimbabwe has all the natural resources necessary for it to be a successful country.

    Let’s hope his challengers have a preference for democracy rather than another dose of dictatorship –

    Tensions were mounting in the Zimbabwean capital Harare on Tuesday, a day after the army chief warned that the military would not hesitate to “step in” if President Robert Mugabe continues his purge of members of the ruling Zanu-PF party.

    Several tanks were seen moving near the Zimbabwean capital Harare on Tuesday, witnesses told AFP, a day after the army warned it could intervene over a purge of ruling party officials.

    http://www.france24.com/en/20171114-tensions-harare-army-chief-warns-mugabe-purge-tanks-chiwenga

  11. Good Morning

    CT

    I did not bother to watch the Sessions testimony. Of course he would continue to lie. He has to. Despite this however he will go down his name has come up in the Mueller investigation.

    Thats where the action really is. The Democrats on the committee are not getting in the way of the Mueller investigation and the Republicans don’t want to go there.

    So it was an enough rope exercise which will see more charges to come when Mueller decides to indict.

    I am very impressed with Mueller the secrecy still continues. No leaks. Given the number of people involved with the investigation thats really amazing.

    So we are treading water again as we wait for the next rounds of indictments.

  12. Good morning Dawn Patrollers.

    Mark Kenny on how the Kristina Keneally announcement is a horror scenario for the government.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/kristina-keneally-shock-liberals-face-horror-scanario-as-labor-rolls-out-another-star-candidate-20171113-gzksxt.html
    Adam Gartrell writes that Kristina Keneally has hit the ground running and not taking any shit.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/kristina-keneally-laughs-off-liberal-assault-on-eddie-obeid-ties-go-for-it-20171114-gzkz16.html
    John Howard says he’s expecting a call up as the Coalition campaigns to retain his former Sydney seat of Bennelong, hours after former NSW premier Kristina Keneally was named as Labor’s candidate.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/john-howard-expecting-campaign-call-up-as-kristina-keneally-vies-for-bennelong-20171114-gzlcw5.html
    Jennifer Hewett thinks the fight for Bennelong will get dirty. Google.
    /opinion/columnists/kristina-keneallys-race-for-bennelong-is-a-big-risk-for-the-government-20171114-gzl2x6
    While Quentin Dempster writes that a smear campaign against Keneally would be a dangerous gamble.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/national/2017/11/14/kristina-keneally-smear-campaign/
    Nicholas Stuart refers to the speech George Megalogenis gave to the NPC this week. George has crunched the numbers and adduced the (inevitable) result. Australia is rapidly becoming two countries. The reason is simple. It’s all about immigration. Quite disturbing really.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/queensland-election-2017-two-nations-divided-by-immigration-20171114-gzky7i.html
    “The government’s public standing has eroded. How will it pass crucial laws?” asks Peter Lewis.
    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/commentisfree/2017/nov/14/the-governments-public-standing-has-eroded-how-will-it-pass-crucial-laws
    Nick O’Malley reports on a number of sources that say that the SSM survey was an unnecessary blocking tactic and that the MPs should have done their job.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/same-sex-marriage-vote-parliament-not-a-postal-vote-should-be-used-to-decide-issues-20171114-gzlc6j.html
    Professor of Law Patrick Parkinson says that in the aftermath of a bitterly divisive campaign concerning same-sex marriage, Australia now needs the kind of leadership that delivers on all-too-often empty promises.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/winners-of-samesex-marriage-vote-must-now-govern-for-all-20171113-gzkmlf.html
    Phil Coorey writes that moves by hardline conservatives to substantially alter a proposed same-sex marriage bill, including removing anti-discrimination protections, look set to fail, with Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull saying neither the Parliament, the government nor the people would support weakening anti-discrimination laws.
    http://www.afr.com/news/politics/pm-exerts-authority-as-gaymarriage-fight-begins-20171114-gzkzk5

  13. Section 2 . . .

    Premier Dan Andrews writes “The result of the Australian marriage law postal survey could well be a victory for the “no” camp – probably not by a wide margin, but possibly by a whisker. So what happens then?” An excellent contribution!
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/the-same-sex-survey-result-could-well-be-a-no-what-happens-then-20171114-gzktwg.html
    Michael Koziol says Turnbull has slapped down conservative Coalition MPs clamouring for the right to discriminate against gay people, arguing such moves would be neither welcome nor successful. We shall see.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/marriage-vote-malcolm-turnbull-slaps-down-conservative-bid-to-wind-back-antidiscrimination-laws-20171114-gzkxrg.html
    John Birmingham really disparages the SSM and the NO proponents.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/blunt-instrument/in-24-hours-well-know-the-result-of-the-vote-that-wasnt-even-20171114-gzkzvq.html
    Turnbull could, if he was willing, cut short the ‘No’ campaign shenanigans by simply calling a vote on Senator Dean Smith’s long-standing motion but this would take plain old-fashioned guts, so it probably won’t happen, writes Mungo MacCallum.
    https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/mungo-maccallum-the-bizarre-dishonest-no-campaign-that-never-ends,10926
    Four reasons Victorian MPs say ‘no’ to assisted dying, and why they’re misleading.
    https://theconversation.com/four-reasons-victorian-mps-say-no-to-assisted-dying-and-why-theyre-misleading-87168
    The Australian Workers Union has applied to the Federal Court for all correspondence between the Registered Organisations Commission and Employment Minister Michaelia Cash’s office over its concerns about alleged political interference with the independent agency’s investigation.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/awu-makes-court-application-for-correspondence-between-government-and-independent-agency-20171113-gzkfo6.html
    Paul Keating has delivered a visionary speech, as well as a challenge, at a CEDA meeting. Along with a few well aimed rebukes, too!
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/paul-keating-warns-on-economy-without-imagination-youre-lost-20171114-gzky9c.html
    Karl Quinn says there’s a lot to like in the restructure announced by ABC managing director Michelle Guthrie, but it does little to address the broadcaster’s biggest challenges.
    http://www.smh.com.au/entertainment/tv-and-radio/heres-hoping-michelle-guthrie-hasnt-just-restructured-the-abcs-spine-away-20171114-gzl10u.html
    When the Senate Judiciary Committee asked Brett Talley if he would have any conflicts of interest if confirmed as a federal judge, he failed to disclose one potentially big one. He’s married to a White House lawyer. What an effort!
    http://www.theage.com.au/world/trump-federal-judge-nominee-is-married-to-a-white-house-lawyer-20171113-gzks4u.html
    A suspended Australian Federal Police officer who was part of a prime ministerial security detail was caught leaking information on a drug investigation after police set up an elaborate sting in 2013.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/suspended-afp-officer-ben-hampton-in-court-after-leaking-information-20171114-gzku5d.html

  14. KKeneally: @TurnbullMalcolm if you believe the nasty things you & your guys said yesterday, why did you appoint me to this job? pic.twitter.com/eeimXzsKrE

  15. Section 3 . . .

    Ross Gittins summarises Richard Dennis’s book, “Curing Affluenza”.
    http://www.smh.com.au/comment/enough-of-the-stuff-new-tax-break-could-help-cure-australians-of-affluenza-20171113-gzkso0.html
    Salim Mehajer has been hit with a fine and a legal bill after pleading guilty to failing to disclose his political donations while he was deputy mayor of the now-defunct Auburn Council. This guy certainly keeps us entertained.
    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/salim-mehajer-fined-after-pleading-guilty-to-electoral-funding-offence-20171113-gzkrrh.html
    Foreign spies, lobbyists and donations will be targeted under sweeping new laws that seek to fight interference with Australia’s democratic institutions and influence on politicians. George Brandis might have done some good work here.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/foreign-spies-lobbyists-and-donations-targeted-in-new-interference-laws-20171114-gzkzzu.html
    Jacqui Maley farewells Jacqui Lambie, “the real thing”. I must say the speech that the enigmatic George Brandis gave to Lambie was genuine and heart-felt.
    http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/love-her-or-hate-her-jacqui-lambie-had-what-other-politicians-are-always-trying-to-fake-20171113-gzktba.html
    A group of elderly and bedridden residents will lose their homes just before Christmas as the scandal-plagued retirement village Berkeley Living in Patterson Lakes prepares to close. This is a sorry story all round.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/consumer-affairs/elderly-berkeley-living-residents-to-lose-homes-before-christmas-20171114-gzl3im.html
    Profits of Adani Enterprises – the company in Adani Group’s complex structure that owns the proposed Carmichael coalmine – have collapsed almost 50% year-on-year, according to a half-yearly report released this week, which does not mention the mine. The results further show the company is in financial distress.
    https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/nov/15/profits-of-adanis-carmichael-mine-company-tumble-leaving-it-in-financial-peril
    The NSW department of Finance Services and Innovation has notified United Voice, the union representing the cleaners, that employment guarantees in place since 1994 “will not be extended in the new contracts from 2018”. The 7000 employees will be forced to reapply for their jobs.
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/workplace-relations/7000-school-cleaners-forced-to-reapply-for-their-jobs-20171113-gzk49m.html
    Can growth lift the economy when inflation won’t?
    http://www.smh.com.au/business/innovation/can-growth-lift-the-economy-when-inflation-wont-20171114-gzl9ca.html
    Stephen Koukoulas says the latest Statement on Monetary Policy has confirmed the failure of the Reserve Bank of Australia to implement monetary policy settings that are consistent with its inflation target and objective of full employment.
    https://thekouk.com/item/550-why-the-rba-is-wrong-wrong-wrong.html
    Roy Moore fights for family values. Do those involve assaulting 14-year-olds?
    https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/nov/14/roy-moore-family-values-sexual-assault
    New data on national streaming habits has revealed Australians will stop at nothing to get their TV fix, even taking their binge-watching habits into public toilets and cutting back on groceries to cover subscription fees.
    http://thenewdaily.com.au/entertainment/tv/2017/11/14/netflix-addiction-australia/

  16. Morning

    BK

    Big day today.
    chrispytweets: Today is going to be an incredible day, as we wait for #marriageequality survey results. No matter what happens, know that support is there should you need it.
    @LifelineAust: 131114
    @beyondblue: 1300224636
    @QLifeAustralia: 1800184527 (from 3pm)
    #mentalhealth #voteyes

  17. Morning all

    BK

    Appreciate today’s contributions. I did enjoy Premier Andrews piece on SSM. As I have said previously, having this pathetic federal govt, has been bearable for me due to fact that here in Vic, we have had great leadership by Andrews.
    Hopefully the yes vote will get up. If not, as Premier Andrews says, if Labor get elected, ssm will be enacted within 100 days

  18. Democrat Exposes Jeff Sessions’ Hypocrisy On Intentional Failure to Remember Being a Crime

    After a hearing ripe with Attorney General Jeff Sessions claiming, “I don’t recall” at least twenty times by Rep. Jeffries’ count, the Democrat put Sessions on the spot by asking, “Do you still believe the intentional failure to remember can constitute a criminal act?”

    It is hard to sell not recalling a meeting that was not only held in March of 2016, but a picture of which was used and distributed by the Trump campaign itself. And a meeting during which a person who has now admitted lying to the FBI suggested that presidential candidate Donald Trump meet with Russian President Vladimir Putin.

    Sessions claimed earlier in the hearing that he “always told the truth” about Russia. But if he is held to his own legal standard for others, this is simply not accurate, and that is why he got so riled up when Jeffries went there.

    By Sessions’ admission today, if the intentional failure to recall is an attempt to deceive, it’s a criminal act.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/14/dem-exposes-jeff-sessions-hypocrisy-intentional-failure-remember-criminal-act.html

  19. Senate Republicans ask Moore to withdraw as new accuser steps forward

    U.S. Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell led a chorus of establishment Republicans on Monday urging Roy Moore, the party’s Senate candidate in Alabama, to quit the race as a fifth woman came forward with allegations Moore had sexual contact with teenage girls decades ago.

    Beverly Young Nelson said Moore sexually assaulted her when she was 16 and he was a prosecuting attorney in his 30s. At a New York news conference, the tearful Nelson said Moore groped her, tried to pull her shirt off and shove her head in his lap, then warned that “no one will believe you” if she told anyone.

    http://www.politicususa.com/2017/11/14/senate-republicans-moore-withdraw-accuser-steps.html

  20. Trump begged Vietnam to buy US military equipment because he needed ‘quick wins’: report

    resident Donald Trump reportedly begged the Vietnamese government to buy American military equipment because he needed “quick wins” ahead of upcoming elections.

    Sources tell Bloomberg that Trump grilled Vietnamese Prime Minister Nguyen Xuan Phuc about why his country wasn’t spending more money buying American weapons.

    “He needed quick wins, he told his team in the room, because he’d be running for re-election before anyone realized,” Bloomberg reports. “And weapons sales, in Trump’s view, are good for his approval ratings.”

    “Trump rarely set down in a country without pointing out that buying a few F-18s would go a long way toward winning his heart,” Bloomberg writes. “But he’ll return home to Washington without having secured a major new order for American defense contractors.”

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/trump-begged-vietnam-to-buy-us-military-equipment-because-he-needed-quick-wins-report/

  21. People are misunderstanding a key fact about what Russia did to us in 2016

    Whether one believes Russia successfully hacked the United States presidential election or not is immaterial. There’s just too much incriminating evidence surrounding the hack – both from our own intelligence agencies and numerous journalistic investigations – which indicates Russia did as much and with abundance.

    But “hack” is the wrong word. Russians did not cyber-crime their way past encrypted gateways to gain entrance into software and hyper-sensitive, confidential data. What they did was merely pull on historic propaganda strings. Negative relations between Russia and the United States go back a full century, at the least. Russia lobbed propaganda our way, and the USA lobbed propaganda in their direction. Americans had grown so accustomed to this propaganda war that it was parodied: think “Spy vs. Spy” comics in Mad Magazine.

    https://www.rawstory.com/2017/11/people-are-misunderstanding-a-key-fact-about-what-russia-did-to-us-in-2016/

  22. A somewhat desultory attempt at smear by the Daily TurdBurgler today. The Turd is considered a Westie shit-sheet by the better heeled in Sydney’s lower North Shore.

  23. Sally McManus‏Verified account @sallymcmanus · 11h11 hours ago

    Michaelia Cash continually lies about working people and about unions. She continually leaks and spreads these lies to the media. She has lied at least 5 times to the Senate. Why is she still a Minister? #auspol

  24. Secret Finding: 60 Russian Payments “To Finance Election Campaign Of 2016”

    The FBI is scrutinizing more than 60 money transfers sent by the Russian foreign ministry to its embassies across the globe, most of them bearing a note that said the money was to be used “to finance election campaign of 2016.”

    On Aug. 3 of last year, just as the US presidential election was entering its final, heated phase, the Russian foreign ministry sent nearly $30,000 to its embassy in Washington. The wire transfer, which came from a Kremlin-backed Russian bank, landed in one of the embassy’s Citibank accounts and contained a remarkable memo line: “to finance election campaign of 2016.”

    That wire transfer is one of more than 60 now being scrutinized by the FBI and other federal agencies investigating Russian involvement in the US election. The transactions, which moved through Citibank accounts and totaled more than $380,000, each came from the Russian foreign ministry and most contained a memo line referencing the financing of the 2016 election.

    https://www.buzzfeed.com/jasonleopold/secret-finding-60-russian-payments-to-finance-election?utm_term=.ic79OnPaq#.gi2oJBx8Z

  25. Urban Wronski‏ @UrbanWronski · 9h9 hours ago

    “Of course JA’s citizenship renunciation can be expedited by the local embassy.” Anthony Green’s throwaway line on ABC today.
    As if it’s common knowledge.
    It can? Or only when there’s a lost majority in the offing?

  26. Morning all.
    On the front page of the DT, headline ‘Now She is Bill’s Girl ‘ is a side bar ‘Extreme Laws are No Hope ‘,on Turnbull’s ‘slap down ‘ of Patterson’s bill.

    As mentioned elsewhere I noticed that Turnbull didn’t say the discrimination parts of the bill were wrong, just that they wouldn’t pass or that Australians wouldn’t ‘welcome ‘ them.

    The DT’s sub editor does characterise them as ‘extreme’.

  27. lizzie @ #788 Wednesday, November 15th, 2017 – 7:08 am

    Sally McManus‏Verified account @sallymcmanus · 11h11 hours ago

    Michaelia Cash continually lies about working people and about unions. She continually leaks and spreads these lies to the media. She has lied at least 5 times to the Senate. Why is she still a Minister? #auspol

    rampant lying is part of her job description isn’t it

  28. vanOnselenP: I sincerely hope that today the Australian people confirm their collective rejection of discrimination and the concept of the other. I have absolute faith that they will.

  29. I think the SSM postal survey will be 55/45 in favour. If its 53/47 or less then the conservatives view it as game on. Id love for it to pass by 60/40 or more.

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