The recent action and excitement in federal politics continues to make no impression on the polls. This week’s reading of the BludgerTrack aggregate nudges very slightly to the Coalition on two-party preferred, but the vagaries of state breakdowns cause Labor to pick up two on the seat projection, with a gain apiece in New South Wales and Victoria. The only new addition this week is the regular Essential Research result, which provided no new data on leadership ratings. Full results on the sidebar.
BludgerTrack: 53.2-46.8 to Labor
As chaos mounts in Canberra, the situation on the polling front remains eerily quiet.
Ciobo and Hunt must have a lot to talk about when they have a chance to have a private discussion – both in the pockets of property developers.
Why doesn’t anyone ever ask the Trade Minister from the Coalition, who is talking about the TPP, to explain the functions of Investor State Resolution!?!
Property Developers are the new Tobacco Companies for the LNP/Liberal/National parties.
KKeneally: Wow. He kept that under wraps. twitter.com/scottludlam/st…
As posted in The Age
See, there he goes again. Ciobo is all about ‘job growth’. Never about Wages and Conditions!
‘fess – Yep. Of course Stutch has negotiated hundreds of these things …
That’s the first time I’d seen the footage of the Dastyari abuse. How horrible to get stalked by these assholes when you’re going about your private business!
Though I loved Tim Watts’ response: what race is a dickhead?
peterjblack: “WA Liberal Senator Dean Smith to introduce same-sex marriage bill this week“ pjblack.me/2yTSKQq #auspol #marriageequality
https://twitter.com/peterjblack/status/929476797447786497
briefly @ #1096 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 2:14 am
Good to see you back on the reservation Briefly.
You are now addressing the issue currently confronting Parliament and doing so in a reasonable manner.
We are on the same page.
guytaur @ #1158 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 8:33 am
Trumble’s life gets more interesting and exciting all the time.
Mal Farr tends to support Shorten.
guytaur @ #1154 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 5:26 am
So I assume Barnaby was:
senator and deputy Greens leader.
What happened:
kicked out Parliament by the HC for being a dual New Zealand citizen.
I can now see some of Pyne’s confusion!
Hilarious. Stutchbury complaining about how politics is fragmented and polarised. It’s been the Liberal party under Abbott, goaded on by Murdoch’s press that has fueled that polarisation.
Why is it that people like CPyne can spit out untruths!?
Nola Marino now mentioned. Cassidy reckons she’d be of the Canavan variety.
:large
mrbenjaminlaw: @JarrodBleijieMP @SteveDicksonMP Also over journalism’s lazy reliance on “she said/he said” stories passing as balance. Check the facts. If someone’s blatantly lying, tell the reader.
Top of the online page headline in the GG . Good to learn which leader is under pressure 🙂
“Shorten faces bitter party dispute”
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/?nk=6e468469ccc62fbc82bb54d2f665a442-1510439244
PaulBongiorno: @BevanShields @Raf_Epstein Not all suspects are in the same boat. Labor and NXT have documents to show they renounced ahead of nomination. Alexander and Parry clearly didn’t. The HC judgement at paras 70 & 72 can be read two ways. Turnbull’s opinion political, his legal advice suss – again!
lizzie,
Fact check on the Le Lievre cartoon.
My understanding is not turbans are feature of the Sikh religion not Hindu. 🙂
And judgement poor – as usual!
Middleton
Turnbull needs to have a plan for coping with dissension after the poll is declared and she doesn’t think he ever thinks forward.
BiGD
Sorry, I didn’t really look. Blush.
What a horrible sentence below.
I claim a lack of caffeine.
Re-write.
My understanding is that turbans are a feature of the Sikh religion not Hindu.
lizzie @ #1173 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 5:49 am
Not your fault.
You’re just the messenger! 🙂
BiGD
I was able to translate 🙂
Stutchbury reveals his colours. Call equality granting extra rights. This while all the panellists ignore State Federal divide.
What legislation Labor put in place under Rudd does the LNP want to remove?
victoria @ #1164 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 9:39 am
And never get called out for it.
lizzie @ #1176 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 5:51 am
Thanks.
I have another coffee now! 🙂
Sorry if already posted but reaching “embattled” status is a major milestone in his brilliant career.
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“Embattled PM rules out election”
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http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/john-alexander-resignation-malcolm-turnbull-rules-out-an-election/news-story/191a6b0bbd6e70c4e4fbc7eeb04ffefc
Stutch and Barrie, almost inaudible, seem to blame the stand-off on refugees on Labor left.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/manus-island-authorities-prepare-to-move-in-as-deadline-looms/9140872
I found this very interesting mainly for the comments.
Question to self.
Why did you not understand that Mr. Dutton (thank goodness) is protecting us from these evil lefties (protesters) and illegal immigrants ❓
Right on brother.
And so on, and so on.
I have been such a fool. Why did I not know that there are more than seven virtues.
Bastardry is a late breaking addition.
Psychopathy another.
For want of a better descriptor the “Eff you jack, I’m all right” syndrome now goes to the head of the list.
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If I had my druthers. All the poor victims would be in Australia.
Forced education for dumb bastards would be instituted starting tomorrow. Would somebody please supply a list of suitable candidates please ❓
Brown Bear and I will be working on the educators (electric shock machines – once used in experiments to show that almost anybody would have worked in the Nazi death camps) supplied and maintained.
I note that lack of caffeine is being used as an excuse for errors of all kinds – and rightly so. ❗
Mowing for KayJay again.
😇😇😇
Toodles.
E&OE
Lizzie
More of this decency and empathy is evil narrative. How dare the Labor left stand up for such values.
The Government claims that the rejected asylum seekers at Manus are not their responsibility.
If that is true how is it that they can stop NZ from taking 400 of them?
Does anyone here actually know what the basis of this claim is?
Is it a matter of written agreement between the C’wlth and the PNG Government?
(You’d think the PNG Govt would be more than happy for the asylum seekers to be gone!)
Russia investigation is officially finished, finding that there is nothing to see?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-11/trump-says-us-deal-with-russia-on-syria-will-save-many-lives/9141522
Apparently the guy who abused Senator Sam Dastyari in a Toll Group shirt doesn’t even work for Toll Group.
https://twitter.com/toll_group?lang=en
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11943121
CTar:
According to Pyne they aren’t Australia’s responsibility because the detention centre has been closed and the asylum seekers are “squatting” there of their own volition.
The obvious question as you say, is how then can we refuse NZ offer of resettlement. I wonder if that question has been put to the govt?
From the last paragraph of PaulB’s article yesterday in the Saturday Paper on the SSM result this week:
“Turnbull is determined to deliver on his promise that if the survey is affirmative, same-sex marriage will be quickly legislated through the parliament. It should be a chance for him to get on the front foot. After all, he promoted the cause for change. But such is the pessimism on the government backbench some say he can’t be counted on to make even this a winner.”
Imagine if Turnbull was an effective leader, given the SSM plebiscite, someone smarter would have see the polls and ‘owned’ the process to actively campaign and sponsor a bill through parliament. There aren’t many issues that are contested that have consistently polled at 60-40%.
All Turnbull has done is said he and Lucy would vote yes and ‘encouraged ‘ others to do the same.
BiGD
Putin’s press secretary when asked if this was so answered with a flat “No”.
BiGD – Yes. Perry ‘dun good’.
Bleurgh @ #1186 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 10:01 am
Stale news.
He is a former employee.
Ardern was asked and sees the Australian government as responsible for the refugees and so won’t negotiate with PNG, just the Australian government.
http://www.news.com.au/national/breaking-news/lnp-will-put-greens-last-on-vote-cards/news-story/92a5b18ab46c6f3d3b35f9bcd74642cc
In my opinion Turnbull will attempt to pass the legislation and be thwarted by the people who have been thwarting him for the last three years and it will tear the party apart. That or they’ll delay it until ‘after the next election’ and that will hopefully widen the gap in the polls a bit.
I don’t believe for a second that SSM will pass under an LNP government.
guytaur @ #1187 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 10:02 am
Her message should be “F***k off Malcolm, this is between PNG and NZ.”
Yes, John.
You rightly make the observation that Turnbull’s advocacy for ME during the postal thingy was a magnificent and inspirational defence of the idea of equality for all citizens.
Insipid prick! 🙁
JR
I wondered if something like that was the ‘problem’.
Playing politics.
Read more…
https://independentaustralia.net/business/business-display/the-good-the-bad-and-the-unsatisfactory-how-the-worst-nbn-was-done,10920
CTar1 @ #1198 Sunday, November 12th, 2017 – 10:09 am
How can Turnbull simultaneously maintain that the AS are not Australia’s responsibility but PNG’s and seek to veto some going to NZ?