ReachTEL: 53-47 to Labor

The ReachTEL poll for October comes in not a lot different from the ReachTEL poll for September.

The latest ReachTEL poll for Sky News, conducted last night from a sample of 2399, has Labor with a two-party lead of 53-47, unchanged from the last poll on September 28. So far the only primary vote numbers we have are inclusive of a 9% undecided rating: at first blush, they suggest the Coalition on around 37.5%, Labor on 38.5% and the Greens on One Nation on 10% apiece, although forced responses of the undecided would probably bring the major parties back a little. Those figures should be forthcoming soon-ish.

The poll also finds Malcolm Turnbull leading Bill Shorten 51-49 as preferred prime minister, down from 52-48. Malcolm Turnbull’s performance is rated good or very good by 25%, poor or very poor by 40%; for Bill Shorten, the corresponding numbers are 28% and 38.5%.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,128 comments on “ReachTEL: 53-47 to Labor”

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  2. “Well, I for one am quite keen on the idea of MPs being solely Australian citizens. If you want to be in it, then at the very least you need to be 100% Australian with no other allegiances. It’s a simple thing to accomplish if you put your mind to it.”

    BB – I like my MPs having minds, too.

  5. briefly @ #1027 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 1:54 pm

    I really doubt she had ever read the document, or could care less about it. Her feeling was that the decision amounted to the disenfranchisement of people just like her and her family. She’s right.

    She, and you are wrong. If you want to sit in the Australian parliament, you get off your arse and determine if you have dual citizenship or not.

    If you can’t be bothered relinquishing all other citizenships, then you are not worthy of being in parliament.

    I had to prove I was an Australian citizen to gain employment for the NSW Government Insurance Office (GIO). I can see no reason why the rules for getting into parliament should be less than being employed by a state government department.

    Repeatedly claiming “it’s stupid” is not going to change anything. It is even less likely to change anyone’s opinion either. You are beginning to sound like the people who think that seat belt laws are stupid.

  6. AshGhebranious: If Joyce has been ineligible till only this year, he may not be entitled to pension he accrued while in senate and hor #auspol.

    that is huge guytaur, forgot that bit.

    barny likely will not have to repay any salary entitlements etc, but he should do for the period he when he knew he was dual citizen, but mal and others will have hard time justifying ongoing parly pension

  7. Rudd, Gillard, Rudd, Abbott, Turnbull …. the punters must be heartily sick of it, a total clusterfuck of lies, self interest and misrepresentation… day in day out, year after year … all tarred with same brush. Labor need to be very careful in managing the perception that one major party is just the same as the other. Perhaps New England is already lost, but it provides an opportunity to differentiate… to unite in the National interest with an agenda for the future that is fair and reasonable and everyone understands. By all means fight the battle but make damned sure you win the war.

  8. briefly @ #1045 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:06 pm

    Question
    briefly @ #1027 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 4:54 pm

    I really doubt she had ever read the document, or could care less about it. Her feeling was that the decision amounted to the disenfranchisement of people just like her and her family. She’s right.

    How? There is nothing stopping a dual citizen from entering parliament unless they are unwilling to renounce.

    Think about it….Joyce has renounced. Is he in any way changed by this? Is he somehow made more Australian? All he has done is complete a bureaucratic step in compliance with the procedures of another country.

    Australia is unique in disqualifying dual citizens from its Parliament. It is anomalous. It is undemocratic. It says that we do not trust each other.

    It says nothing of the sort.
    It simply says that if you want to sit in the Australian Parliament, you must have undivided loyalty to Australia to the exclusion of all other countries.

  9. Furthermore, there is nothing stopping dual citizens, or even your “factory worker” running for, and sitting in parliament. You, or they just have to pull their finger out and take all the necessary steps to make yourself eligible. If that’s too much trouble for you, then you are not worthy.

  10. C@tmomma
    briefly,
    We are the Australian nation. Not the Dual Citizen nation.

    This is not a reasonable depiction. It is quite lawful to be both an Australian Citizen and to be a dual or multiple citizen. At last 3/5 Australians or their spouses or members of their families are dual citizens. My own children, for example, all born in Subiaco, are entitled to triple citizenships a result of their maternal heritage. There is no way they should be construed as being lesser Australians as a result of this.

    This is a petty-xenophobia…a legacy of the phobias and the racism of the colonial era. It also says we are unsure of each other, indeed that we are unsure of what Australia is. I think it’s f@##$d.

  11. Briefly
    I dunno why you’re arguing this here. The only way the other people here would change their minds is of a Labor MP got caught when enlightenment would strike. Frankly I’m surprised you aren’t of that mind because you usually share the position that Labor’s position is always correct.

  12. C@tmomma @ #905 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 2:02 pm

    If Turnbull was thinking about being a real creep he would suggest an audit of all MPs to try and catch some Labor MPs out.

    No doubt Labor are hoping he is foolish and desperate enough to do exactly that.

    I await with interest any new referrals to the court, after the government’s opponents have had a chance to study the reasoning in the judgement.

  14. The most valuable constitutional reform would be to institute a unicameral national legislature with proportional representation and a low quota (less than 2% of a region’s votes) to secure a seat. Then we could have a parliament that truly represents the diversity of views and interests in the populace.

  16. “ROC has refused 2 explain why AWU raided over 2006 docs when law requires docs only be kept for 7yrs -now says won’t answer due 2 leak probe”

    LOL! thought there would be something like this involved. Egg meet Face with Palm on top. 🙂

  18. briefly @ #1057 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:17 pm

    C@tmomma
    briefly,
    We are the Australian nation. Not the Dual Citizen nation.

    This is not a reasonable depiction. It is quite lawful to be both an Australian Citizen and to be a dual or multiple citizen. At last 3/5 Australians or their spouses or members of their families are dual citizens. My own children, for example, all born in Subiaco, are entitled to triple citizenships a result of their maternal heritage. There is no way they should be construed as being lesser Australians as a result of this.

    This is a petty-xenophobia…a legacy of the phobias and the racism of the colonial era. It also says we are unsure of each other, indeed that we are unsure of what Australia is. I think it’s f@##$d.

    I think we are aware where the phobias and obsessions lie.

  19. Briefly you are correct in principle but it’s constitutional so you have to respect that until the Constitution is changed.

  21. Nicholas, you don’t really need a quota frankly, the number of members is a de facto quota and the disqualification of those below quota generally makes the vote less representative (eg the 6 Seat Seat Senate elections mildly favour the Greens by disqualifying AJP and Reason Party (formerly sex party) who would usually get a seat or two if the entire Senate was elected across the country rather than six per state per election.

  23. “ROC has refused 2 explain why AWU raided over 2006 docs when law requires docs only be kept for 7yrs -now says won’t answer due 2 leak probe”

    Its the eleventy protocol, a hangover from the hockey days

  28. I feel dirty, but damn the Blot is giving Trumble a good working over…

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/lazy-and-incompetent/news-story/445a28dbaa5388fe17974bff99da97f9

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/joyce-out-of-parliament/news-story/fe6b0fa4da4d7166b23118b2a5313b00

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/principle-not-the-side-this-use-of-state-power-is-wrong/news-story/6b6cb256c6edbd632937f1b7eeb96cc2

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/turnbull-must-go-next-month/news-story/a88e2501f99a97783bece667c82496cf

    http://www.heraldsun.com.au/blogs/andrew-bolt/turnbull-flees-press-conference/news-story/f84c2229b2e8eece3e2956ffd6d09760?from=htc_rss

    Lazy and incompetent eh Bolta? Whaodathunkit?

  29. C@tmomma @ #1048 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:09 pm

    Not to forget the ROC. This has been pointed to by Ewin Hannan of The Australian:

    Ewin Hannan‏Verified account @EwinHannan 1h1 hour ago

    ROC has refused 2 explain why AWU raided over 2006 docs when law requires docs only be kept for 7yrs -now says won’t answer due 2 leak probe

    You might remember iI raised this very point the other night!

  30. Bolt has always hated Turnbull more so since he rolled Abbott. Bolt is still one of the 6ish people in the Nation who thinks making Abbott PM again would be a good idea last I heard.

  33. ratsak…..Bolt just wants someone in the Lib/Nat Coalition to take Turnbull out. He detests him that much. Must have got the nod from above to write what he is writing..

  35. The fact that many Australians are dual citizens is all the more reason that prospective representatives should be aware of this, and ensure their declarations on this matter are not false.

    Briefly, you say Australia is unique in disqualifying dual citizens from election to national positions. It seems obvious though, that this would be a universal concern. Possibly other countries ensure allegiance in other ways.

    Can you elaborate on your research?

  39. peter love @ #1083 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:35 pm

    The fact that many Australians are dual citizens is all the more reason that prospective representatives should be aware of this, and ensure their declarations on this matter are not false.

    Briefly, you say Australia is unique in disqualifying dual citizens from election to national positions. It seems obvious though, that this would be a universal concern. Possibly other countries ensure allegiance in other ways.

    Can you elaborate on your research?

    For a start, not all nations allow dual citizenship.

  41. Oh I know how much Blot detests Trumble (and how detestable he is himself).

    But 5 blog posts in one day excoriating him? That’s going hard even for Blot. Like you say sonar it feeds into the change of attitude from Markson. News look like they might be deciding that Trumble is simply not worth trying to save anymore.

    Look out for some more fancy potato recipes in the Limited News papers.

  42. I gather that Windsor does not want to “put his wife through another election”. With all the nastiness flying around politics now, I don’t blame him at all.

    The Drum. Amanda immediately started a rant against Windsor before Julia pulled her up and told her he wasn’t standing.

    “Oh…”

  43. C@tmomma @ #1048 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:09 pm

    ROC has refused 2 explain why AWU raided over 2006 docs when law requires docs only be kept for 7yrs -now says won’t answer due 2 leak probe

    Now the AFP are giving cover to the government.

    Nothing less than a televised raid on Cash’s office will cure the perception they are a political playa (sic).

  46. bemused @ #1087 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:39 pm

    peter love @ #1083 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:35 pm

    The fact that many Australians are dual citizens is all the more reason that prospective representatives should be aware of this, and ensure their declarations on this matter are not false.

    Briefly, you say Australia is unique in disqualifying dual citizens from election to national positions. It seems obvious though, that this would be a universal concern. Possibly other countries ensure allegiance in other ways.

    Can you elaborate on your research?

    For a start, not all nations allow dual citizenship.

    8 years of “birther-ism” comes instantly to mind. You have to be born in the US to be POTUS.

  47. That comment by the High Court that citizenship status is ‘knowable’, covers the case where someone is validly electeded, but a foreign country changes their citizenship status. If not knowable at the time of election the year then they are in the clear.

  50. BK @ #1096 Friday, October 27th, 2017 – 5:47 pm

    How long before, and who will introduce it, Barnaby’s “indiscretions” become a matter in the campaigns for New England?

    My fingers are crossed that if the story of following the young lady into the loo is true that it comes out the day after nominations close and it’s the lady and her mum that go public.

    If it ain’t true then I hope we don’t hear of it again.

    I’m pretty sure Labor will be staying well out of it.

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