The Guardian reports the Coalition has retained its two-point gain from last week on the Essential Research fortnight rolling average, with Labor’s two-party lead steady at 52-48 – primary votes will be with us later today. The poll also records 75% of respondents having voted in the same-sex marriage survey, with 60% having voted yes (down four from three weeks ago) and 34% no (up four).
Other questions related to energy policy, with 35% expressing approval for the government’s new national energy guarantee, 18% disapproval, and 47% unable to day. Only 16% thought it would reduce power prices, compared with 31% who said it would increase them, and 31% who felt it would make no difference. Thirty-two per cent expressed support for the end to renewable energy subsidies in 2020, with 41% opposed; 35% supported the replacement of the clean energy target with new reliability and emissions reductions obligations on retailers, with 32% opposed. Labor was “more trusted to reduce carbon emissions, invest in renewables, stand up to the power companies and develop a modern power grid”, but there was little in it on “reducing power prices or ensuring a reliable power supply”.
If Barnyard gets punted, Cash will be a massive liability during the by-election and she’ll either resign or get sacked to make Trumble look strong.
mikehilliard
The whole Forestry Dept shambles is the area which should be opened up. It is the one area in which I find it very difficult to vote Labor in Victoria. It has been going on for at least 20 years – a bit like the Murray Darling Basin.
Voice Endeavour @ #2045 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:39 am
imacca @ #2044 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:35 am
An adverse finding for Baaaaarnaby and the other goats tomorrow will probably see this maladministration plunged into the worst crisis I can remember. Even in the depths of Gillard’s destruction there was nothing to compare.
We are potentially facing the prospect of three ministers including the DPM being found to have been ineligible to stand and so potentially all of their ministerial decisions from about September last year and absolutely everything they’ve done since their issues became public knowledge open to litigation.
That will also open up a witch hunt for more dual cits who potentially fall foul of whatever standard the HC sets. A witch hunt you know Labor won’t be too actively driving in the foreground, but won’t be trying to hose down either because they’re confident of their processes and the stupid Libs demanded Shorten provide the paperwork until he did so, creating the standard to which they will be held.
Add to that the member for Lyne and probably another Qld Senator with serious s44 questions relating to government contracts.
A minister in the dead throes trying to fend off resignation on an issue that has only really started unravelling, with much much more dirt almost certain to follow on the depth of the misuse of the ROC to pursue political opponents.
And this is all before Abbott has even had to open his mouth. And we get the SSM result shortly which is already promising to see the loons try one last destructive push.
If this government and this PM had a single achievement with which to bless themselves they’d stand maybe a snowflakes chance in hell.
Tomorrow’s HC decision could be the most momentous occasion in a decade of politics. (or it could be a damp squib and the walking dead will limp on /grattan 😉 )
“This mystery was solved a few days back when it was suggested she sleeps standing up.”
She is Borg??
I liked Seven of Nine better. 🙂
KayJay
Voice Endeavour @ #2045 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:39 am
@KayJay – a source told me that not only will the HC remove the 7 dual citizens, they will also remove Abbott and Turnbull for being (direct quote from the high court ruling) “literally the worst, like, I can’t even”
imacca @ #2044 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:35 am
KayJay mate!
the gang of seven will be given the boot tomorrow.
lizzie
I think the problem is that there are a % of Labor voters who coudn’t give a toss about the environment.
KayJay
Voice Endeavour @ #2045 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:39 am
@KayJay – a source told me that not only will the HC remove the 7 dual citizens, they will also remove Abbott and Turnbull for being (direct quote from the high court ruling) “literally the worst, like, I can’t even”
imacca @ #2044 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:35 am
KayJay mate!
the gang of seven will be given the boot tomorrow.
I will take comfort from these assurances.
Jenauthor has thrown a spanner in the fortune telling by being sensible.
Nevertheless I will rest peacefully until tomorrow knowing that Mr. Turnbull’s house is being protected and our borders kept safe by what one astute poster has named the “uber tuber”,
I hope that nobody will be so crass as to mention the “uber tuber über alles,”. That would be a step too far.
Time for hamburger and coffee lunch.
Repost. Try again.
The LNP are clearly desperate…anticipating an early election, losing badly on their right and to Labor, facing a huge defeat in WA and QLD….looking for something/anything to reverse the weight of sentiment and totally mangling it all…
mikehilliard
You’ve only got to yell “jobs” and they go to water. But there is no logic in saving timber jobs when all the trees are gone and the region has been ruined for tourism.
When asked, most voters – 4/5 – will nominate the environment as a matter that concerns them. the politics also hinges around jobs v environment…we need to make a better argument that protecting the environment is also pro-jobs
lizzie
Still would be extraordinary for it to be even read in that time frame, let alone acted upon.
Emails rarely go directly to the person in authority – the more important the person, the more emails they receive, the more likely the emails are channelled through staffers, the longer it takes for them to be brought to the attention of the important person.
If I wanted to prevent something, I’d have sent off the correspondence at least a month beforehand, and spent the ensuing time madly bombarding the relevant office with follow up emails and phone calls.
A phone call, in fact, often gets more action – you can quickly establish if you’re talking to someone who has the power to do a anything and then work out from there who you should be speaking to. If you end up with the right person, and a compelling argument, then you can get almost immediate action, but even in the best case scenario you’d expect a delay of a couple of days (the person in authority has to be able to send directions to other people in authority, etc – takes a while to filter down foodchains).
My absolute quickest response ever was the result of a direct call to a Minister who was a friend of mine, but even then her office had to enter into a lengthy dialogue with the relevant department via email.
…sorry, but I always get narked when someone contacts a politician’s office and expects their problem to be instantly solved. It rarely works like that.
briefly @ #2094 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 11:54 am
We would have absurdly many jobs in solar, batteries, and other renewable technology if the government wasn’t ass-backwards on energy policy.
imacca
“I liked Seven of Nine better.”
a.k.a. Jeri Ryan: ex-wife of Paul Ryan, Speaker of the House in the US.
It’s a small universe.
zoomster
I know from twitter links that the relevant minister has been pressured over this for months, but her answer is wtte we are reviewing the situation and will have an answer next year. Bulldozers can wreck a patch in weeks.
Already my friends tell me that there are great gaps opening up beside the well-known tourist drives beyond Healesville.
HA! You should do humour more often Swampy. 🙂
Thank you Questions …. i am normally grumpy….
Cash won’t resign. Libs/Nats don’t give a fvuk about anything. She will just stick around continue blaming Labor.
Senator Murray Watt
(@MurrayWatt)
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October 26, 2017
Swamp,
Who wouldn’t be cheered by watching Cash get dipped in shit?
She is one of those people who annoy by being so pleased with themselves without actually being good at anything.
[briefly
When asked, most voters – 4/5 – will nominate the environment as a matter that concerns them. the politics also hinges around jobs v environment…we need to make a better argument that protecting the environment is also pro-jobs]
One of the problems here is that many people like politicians are unable to project very far into the future and they like certainty.
A job is something they know as a job now.
So when you talk about something new, it’s not something people can immediately relate to and the thought of change creates uncertainty in how they fit into a new order.
This creates difficulties in implementation and acceptance.
Is anyone else having trouble with “load rest of comments” or do I have to go off and clear my cache etc? I’m trying to catch up and see BK’s morning digest.
lizzie
Hmm – which areas? There is very little true old growth forest around Healesville – a lot of what looks like it is was in fact planted as plantations after the 1939. Certainly that’s the case with the Black Spur (I’d be the first to lie under the bulldozers, I hasten to add…)
I’m certainly unaware (and I think I would be) of any trees left in the area which are hundreds of years old. The ones which didn’t get clobbered in 1928 got cleaned up in 1939.
Sign of panic by Chrissie?
Q….load more is a fail for me
“the Government needs to establish an Office of the Registrar of Distractions,”
Silliness!! There is just no way that there could EVER be the resources available to such a body to even attempt to keep up with rate of new distractions from Truffles and the MadCap Flying Circus. They would need acres of warehouse space just to keep a basic half page note registering the mere existence of each issue.
Having the same prob here. Also trying to catch up on the morning’s input.
Questions
“She is one of those people who annoy by being so pleased with themselves without actually being good at anything.”
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You are forgetting her hair engineering skills.
“Pyne’s allegation Shorten should have supplied documents to ROC when he headed AWU defies time & physics. ROC didnt exist in 2006. #auspol”
Probably works in the parallel universe that the Libs think they exist in though. 🙂
Can this lot show up as any MORE chaotic and dysfunctional??
Hmmmm…..QT coming up so better not go there……
I would suggest people try AR’s PB comment extension.
There may be some issue with Crikey servers sending 2000+ comments to you at once when you hit the ‘Load rest’ button.
swamprat @ #2101 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 1:06 pm
I have noticed that.
I seldom agree with you, but do find you likeable. 🙂
Sorry if that impedes your grumpiness. 😛
BK @ #1783 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 7:07 am
Also, Crikey really should invest in a decent platform, wordpress can only take you so far
Question @ #2106 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 1:15 pm
No problem if you have C+ installed.
Allows you to go direct to any page.
When I see Cash talking all I can think about is Terry Gilliam’s cut-out animations from Python.
The “Load more” button is not working for me either.
zoomster
The very old growth trees under current protest and imminent danger are in East Gippsland, but the nibbling away around Toolangi is potential glider/possum habitat and another cause for protests (the Knitting Nannas). The post-1939 growth is just about useful for the larger possums and owls. There was some lobbying a couple of decades ago to change Forestry’s definition of ‘mature’ from 40-50 years to over 90 years, to give the wildlife a chance.
BK @ #1781 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 7:07 am
BK @ #1780 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 7:06 am
BK @ #1779 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 7:06 am
Load more is a failure for me too.
A suitable hairstyle for Ms Cash?
BK @ #1778 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 7:05 am
KayJay
You know it is possible to post links to earlier posts rathr than repeat the whole post.
BK @ #1772 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 6:59 am
@zeh:
I would suggest people try AR’s PB comment extension.
Would some kind soul be able to post a link to this?
BK @ #1770 Thursday, October 26th, 2017 – 6:58 am
Thanks for the clarification, lizzie.
“Load more” never works properly on my mobile. If it adds more posts, half are out of order or in reverse order.