The latest fortnightly YouGov poll has Labor down a point on the primary vote to 32%, the Coalition steady on 34%, the Greens up two to 12% and One Nation down one to 9%, with the combined result for all others steady on an ample 13%. The respondent-allocated two-party result shifts a point in Labor’s favour to reach 50-50, with the Greens both increasing their primary vote and recorded a somewhat stronger flow of preferences to Labor. The results remain peculiar for the high overall level of minor party and independent voting.
Also featured are a comprehensive seat of leadership ratings: Malcolm Turnbull on 44% approval (down one on six weeks ago) and 48% disapproval (up one); Bill Shorten on 43% (up one) and 46% (down one); Pauline Hanson on 42% (up three) and 50% (down two); Richard Di Natale on 26% (up one) and 39% (up one); Nick Xenophon on 52% (up two) and 28% (up three); Bob Katter on 36% (up three) and 41% (down two); Tony Abbott on 34% (steady) and 57% (up one); and Christopher Pyne on 32% (up one) and 44% (steady). Other findings are that 66% are worried about North Korea, up 12% on eight weeks ago, with 29% not worried, down 11%. Fully 43% would support military action in response to the missile test, with an equal number opposed. Sixty-four per cent would support banning the niqab, with 26% opposed; for the burqa, 67% support and 24% opposition; but for the hijab, 29% support and 61% opposition.
The poll was conducted Thursday to Monday from a sample of 1032.
DTT
I concede your very good point. This is undone a lot of course by schools that have uniform prices that compete with those products.
bw
Its a lived experience. Unless you are educated otherwise how can you know the lived experience?
For a lot of kids, not wearing uniforms magnifies the have/have not divide. Boys could still make the ‘I’m a cool dag’ argument by not having their clothes ironed while wearing uniforms
If school uniforms were intended to protect kids from having to think for themselves what they wanted to wear, they would not have made an effort to make them as uncomfortable, ugly and impractical for many weather conditions as possible.
Boerwar @ #1093 Friday, September 8th, 2017 – 9:20 am
It’s can be pretty constant Bw. You are conscious of always standing out. Two blokes, our age, at a concert, anywhere, and you watch conclusions being drawn. We are very regular looking if I say so myself. The work place, or my work place, can be tough. That said, I lean toward the more sensitive side. MOH is less affected I think – their problem not ours – but then he comes from the music and ‘creative’ world. Generations behind us probably feel differently, I don’t know.
Just saw guytaur’s thoughts – we wouldn’t dream of physical affection in public. I remember my first walking in a Mardi Gras. I was late to the party, but MOH is a 78er (the first year). We were holding hands. An overseas broadcaster came with a microphone and asked : ‘What does this mean to you?’, and without a thought I heard myself say : ‘I am being myself in public for the first time’.
ItzaDream @ #1105 Friday, September 8th, 2017 – 9:38 am
I was 40.
IaD
Thanks. I experienced somewhat similar but, I think, lesser experiences as a migrant child. I have been very aware of the horrific impacts of racism on Indigenous people. But I simply had not given much thought to the lived experiences of gays.
VE – the uncomfortable/impractical aspect of school uniforms is a leftover from Victorian times.
BW
The reason why the Irish referendum result was so positive was it was the voting population saying we are with you we are not judging you.
As a result LGBTI people in Ireland have more self esteem than in most countries. I am hoping that the outcome of this nasty debate is similar here. That in the end we get a more healthy accepting society.
One where gay people feel more able to be themselves in their own life.
Bill Shorten presser now
Assuming that we do get marriage equality some time in the next couple of years, it will be one of those things we look back on and think in horror, ‘why was that not a thing until (which ever year it comes into effect)?!’ Just like homosexuality being decriminalised as late as 1997 in Tasmania, or Aboriginals not being allowed to vote until 1962.
Boerwar @ #1107 Friday, September 8th, 2017 – 9:46 am
And in your case, and indigenous people, the ethnicity can’t be hidden, like say homosexuality. Which raises the issue of being forced to confront your difference, or deny it, the dark secret. This all underlines the imperative to embrace difference and see the dignity underneath it and in all persons. The irony of this is that it is primarily the Christians in our country, who proffer their core value of man being made in god’s image (their anthropomorphism not mine) who are the most vocal and cruel in demeaning difference, believing there is no other conclusion that gays (say) are not (like them) made in god’s image and therefore worthy of nothing more than being called lesser, if not evil. There are many exceptions to these thoughts, and progressive Christians are at the forefront of right thinking.
Dtt
Yep on the blazer pocket thing in the past.
NSW Sate schools had the their standard colour range so just needed to be able to get one pocket with the logo on.
My nephews’ chrilden do netball and they don’t miss you. Not only uniforms but they want kids to have bags as well …
Adam Schiff Puts The Pieces Together That Could Lead To Criminal Charges Against Trump
Rep. Adam Schiff (D-CA) read Donald Trump Jr.’s new statement and noticed that the part about his father knowing nothing about the Russia meeting had been omitted, which could be setting up the President for potentially new criminal charges.
When Trump Jr. decided to change his story to leave out the denial of his father’s knowledge of the meeting, he grabbed the attention of investigators like Rep. Schiff. If it is proven knew about the meeting and why it was being held, that statement that he drafted for his son may have criminal consequences.
The Trump cover story isn’t holding up well under scrutiny. Adam Schiff is connecting the dots, and those dots may lead to criminal charges against the President Of The United States.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/07/adam-schiff-put-pieces-lead-criminal-charges-trump.html
“the ethnicity can’t be hidden, like say homosexuality”
But some people can’t ‘hide’ their sexuality. Though yes, it is generally easier to hide it than one’s ethnicity.
Sen. Kamala Harris Drops A Bombshell: Trump Could Be Called To Testify Before The Senate On Russia
When she asked during an interview with MSNBC’s Ari Melber about whether or not calling Trump testify before the Senate was off the table, the Senator from California responded with a firm no.
One can imagine that Trump could be called to testify if there is evidence personally linking him to the Russia scandal. Trump would try to claim executive privilege and get out of any requests or subpoenas for his testimony, but it is easy to understand why Trump is so obsessed with the Russia scandal. He is closer than perhaps anyone imagines to being on the hot seat and compelled to testify about the Russia scandal.
The Russia investigation is complicated, and it will take time, but investigators are closing in on the truth about the Trump/Russia relationship and what happened during the 2016 election.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/07/sen-kamala-harris-drops-bombshell-trump-called-testify-senate-russia.html
I think that the AIDS crisis set back the acceptance of gays. Thank goodness that’s over.
phoenixRED @ #1114 Friday, September 8th, 2017 – 10:02 am
PhoenixRED
I enjoy your posts and really appreciate your hard work, and say this with good humour.
My mother used to say ~ every morning when you wake, think to yourself: today I might die. And one day you’ll be right.
Keep up the good work !
Neo-fa/ nationalist agitation simmers, supported by the Brexiteers and the Trumpists.
Shorten is much more responsive and adroit at pressers than the hedging, waffling Turnbull.
A very long presser by Shorten (on 24).
So many bombshells have gone off at politicus it must be just a huge crater by now….
😆 😆 😆 😆
Morrison on Liddell: Let the market decide
lizzie @ #1121 Friday, September 8th, 2017 – 10:12 am
Damn ❗
Step 1. Turn on TV. Slow on the draw meant that Mr. Shorten had finished, or been finished by ABC24.
And so, as my wife used to say when thinking up more “Dot and the Kangaroo Story”, I was left lamenting and beholding the slope mouthed Mr. Morrison declaiming in majestic fashion.
Step 2. Turn off not so smart TV.
à votre santé – ☕
ItzaDream
PhoenixRED
I enjoy your posts and really appreciate your hard work, and say this with good humour.
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Thanks ItzaDream – but I must admit to feeling like the English reporter that I posted earlier ( below ) – between Trump and Gippsland’s horrible winter weather I think I have Cabin Fever and slowly going nutso too ….
British reporter mind-boggled by Trump chaos: ‘Impossible to cover every single thing without going mad’
When Jon Sopel was assigned as the BBC’s North American editor in spring 2014, he and his wife were most concerned about the weather conditions in Washington, D.C. — but now he’s starting to worry about his mental health.
“It is impossible to cover every single thing happening at the moment without going mad,” Sopel wrote for the Evening Standard. Or, as someone put it to me, reporting on this President is like trying to put your mouth over a fire hydrant and catching every drop of water.”
[guytaur
Morrison on Liddell: Let the market decide]
That’s the Government’s problem, it has.
KayJay
Sorry. I couldn’t know it was very long until it finished, could I? 😉
My computer is so slow to load streaming ABC that I often miss the events.
On refurbishment of Liddel – I’m very reluctantly of the view that one of the NSW coal fired stations will need to be kept online.
Decisions that needed to be made over the last decade have not been made.
It will be expensive but necessary
CT
Nah. If we are going to pay that much just do gas. At least will only be turned on when needed. Not the other way around.
lizzie
KayJay
Sorry. I couldn’t know it was very long until it finished, could I?
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KJ hides head in shame at his complete assbackwardness. Brown Bear has no sympathy.
Wanders off singing mournfully to contemplate freesias growing in the lawn.
Trump’s New Jobs Plan Is To Hire People To Make Coins With His Face On Them
It was three minutes of North Korea-style propaganda, served up to portray Trump as a president who’s fighting for working men and women.
In a new and slightly chilling propaganda video released by Donald Trump’s re-election campaign, the president showcases his big new jobs plan: a program that puts people to work producing metal coins with his face on them.
The lengthy pro-Trump ad shows the president boasting about an executive order he signed to make such a program possible before it goes on to feature a handful of Trump supporters gushing about the unpopular man in the White House.
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/07/trumps-jobs-plan-hire-people-coins-face.html
KayJay
What prompted you to take up the uniform of the Coalition cabinet.
Apparently someone has put their survey “vote” up for sale on Ebay
Revealed at Xenophon presser
Regarding the Willoughby local council elections, I have a choice of two “Liberals” for Mayor, the incumbent Mayor Gail Giles-Gidney and challenger Cr Angelo Rozos.
Mr Rozos was one of four Councillors who last June voted against a motion supporting Marriage Equality, which involved the Council lobbying the Prime Minister Malcolm Turnbull for a change to the marriage act. After an apparently heated debate, the motion passed 7-4. Rozos decryed the vote as a “black mark”. All four ‘No’ voters left chambers after the vote passed, in spite of a full agenda for the remainder of the meeting.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/newslocal/north-shore/willoughby-council-passes-motion-advocating-marriage-equality-despite-protests-from-some-councillors-and-gallery/news-story/0e5ced1c8c1a0fc821dd5b57504da90c
The Mayor supported the motion.
That does it for me. Rozos is an Tony Abbott / Zed Seselja style conservative, so I’ll vote for the current Mayor.
Voted at prepoll today for nsw council election.
Independent all the way.
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/sep/07/greater-gliders-fears-of-catastrophic-consequences-from-logging-in-victoria?CMP=share_btn_tw
A useful gif.
guytaur
Apparently someone has put their survey “vote” up for sale on Ebay
Revealed at Xenophon presser
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After the Hazelwood fires – the power company delivered $ 100 compensation packages to every Morwell residents letter box – it did not take long before petty crims would go whole streets breaking into letterboxes ……. I guess it could all happen again with someone determined to sway a vote a certain way ….
Trump lawyer Ty Cobb, tricked by an ’email prankster,’ asks for ‘drone’ in private emails slamming reporter
A partner at the law firm Cobb worked for before joining the White House told Business Insider on Thursday that “the words ‘clown’ and ‘buffoon’ were bandied about” among the firm’s lawyers when they spoke about Cobb before he left for the White House.
“He was supposed to be the DC insider who was going to help Trump get away from the Kasowitz mistake,”said the former partner, who requested anonymity to discuss the subject freely. Trump’s former personal attorney on the Russia matter, Marc Kasowitz, found himself in hot water earlier this summer after sending threatening emails to a stranger.
“Ty isn’t a DC insider. He’s the D team,” the former partner said.
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/ty-cobb-emails-prankster-drone-reporter-2017-9?r=US&IR=T
Glancing at The Australian website today confirms once again that the Coalition remains the party of personal responsibility. It just happens that the person is Bill Shorten.
IaD
‘And in your case, and indigenous people, the ethnicity can’t be hidden, like say homosexuality. Which raises the issue of being forced to confront your difference, or deny it, the dark secret. ‘
Partially true. Many migrants have anglicized their names either informally or legally, for example. Then there are the attempts to conform, not to disturb, to play the fool, etc.
Finally there is the obverse: the passion to succeed, whatever society might decide that means. Another means is to get your language as close to the King’s English as possible.
phRD
Coins – The guy has no idea…
[phoenixRED
……. I guess it could all happen again with someone determined to sway a vote a certain way ….]
I doubt it.
You would need to take tens of thousands of letters which would require huge coordination.
The areas targeted would be easily recognised and you could then deal with the issue.
From The Guardian about Miami amd Irma
As Hurricane Irma threatens to pound Miami with winds of mind-boggling power, a heavyweight hazard looms over the city’s skyline: two dozen enormous construction cranes.
Because those cranes were not designed to withstand a storm of Irma’s ferocity, city officials are telling people who live in the shadows of the giant devices to leave.
paulkidd: Caller on @abcmelbourne says #SSM will lead to gay terrorists sponsoring their same-sex terrorist partners through the immigration system.
A very long Shorten presser on ABC24 is 35 seconds.
[guytaur
paulkidd: Caller on @abcmelbourne says #SSM will lead to gay terrorists sponsoring their same-sex terrorist partners through the immigration system.]
If it wasn’t so serious that would be absolutely hilarious.
How ignorant can one person be?
“paulkidd: Caller on @abcmelbourne says #SSM will lead to gay terrorists sponsoring their same-sex terrorist partners through the immigration system.”
That’s enough evidence for the Australian and the ABC news to make a headline out of it.
GT Barney
The mind boggles.
Woke up today feeling a bit down on yesterdays HC ruling. I know it doesn’t matter much as ME will arrive one day but just watching how the PM gloated over this minor “victory” over a survey as to whether all Australian’s should have equal rights just depresses the shit out of me. Lizzie posted an article some way back describing Australia as a “middle of the road country”. How true, once upon a time I thought we were progressive and “clever”.