Newspoll has Labor’s lead back at 53-47 after a 54-46 blowout a fortnight ago, with primary votes at 37% for the Coalition (up two), 38% for Labor (steady), 9% for the Greens (steady) and 8% for One Nation (down one). Both Malcolm Turnbull and Bill Shorten are on 34% approval and 54% disapproval, which means one-point drops in both for Turnbull, and no change for Shorten. Oddly, Malcolm Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister has blow out to 46-29, from 43-33. Paywalled report from The Australian here.
Newspoll: 53-47 to Labor
Back to normal from Newspoll after a blowout in Labor’s favour a fortnight ago.
My twitter timeline is still showing stories on the NBN on the Annabel Crabbe timeline. She is probably regretting that sorry tweet by now
New Rex policy (for me): Dude’s either an idiot or a troll (or both.) Either way, not worth wasting my time even reading. Automatic scroll past when I see his name in future.
guytaur.. expand?
On the Newspoll. Its all steady as she goes at the moment. Thats set in concrete now. Just like it seemed to be late in the term for Gillard and replacing with Rudd didn’t help much.
What we don’t have is swings to the LNP with them ahead. This is reassuring news to me. This before the bruising parliament fortnight starts. Its only going to get worse for them as Labor and other parties highlight the divisions of the LNP and ramp up the illegitimacy claims.
If you really believe that Rex you are a bigger fool than I thought. If Labor switched horses now they would be crucified by the media and their poll lead would evaporate overnight. You are just displaying your ignorance with these silly comments all the time.
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This morning Crabbe started tweeting about her problems getting the NBN. The usual horror story. She tweeted out an apology to all those she disbelieved before it occurred to her.
Steve777 @ #50 Sunday, September 3rd, 2017 – 8:47 pm
All published opinion polling significantly underestimated the result for WA Labor in their recent election. Newspoll, Galaxy, Reachtel and the Reachtel exit poll all put the result on 54-46, and the actual result was 55.5-44.5.
rharris334: Taxpayer to fund Tony Windsor’s legal costs against Barnaby Joyce heraldsun.com.au/news/news-
storhttps://twitter.com/rharris334/status/904327398455336960
GeorgeBludger: So, that’s 19 in a row now.
“Are you smoking the the same stuff as as Rex (or are you just taking the piss)?? “
As it turns out, I’m drinking a can of VB.
But seriously, there seem to be more rusted on conservatives than there are rusted on Laborites. I would not vote for my Liberal member if Labor were led my Eddie Obeid, and lots of people feel like that about Labor. It’s a challenge.
Further, a biased mainstream media, parts of which are actively campaigning for the Government and against Labor, doesn’t help. Just imagine the mouth-frothing rage if doubts were raised about the eligibility of members and Ministers in the Gillard Government to sit in Parliament. The calls for resignation, let alone standing aside, would be deafening. And we know an L/NP Craig Thomson would be given a free pass. Again, a challenge.
HRC: Influential Christian leaders around the world released a powerful statement affirming #LGBTQ inclusion & equality. hrc.org/blog/hundreds-…
https://twitter.com/hrc/status/904328122031591424
This is spoken by someone who one can presume was against decriminalisation of gay sex. And the language itself is very negative. Heterosexuals “exchange bodily fluids” (sounds fun to me) but you won’t hear a peep about that.
In any case, his argument, if you call it as such is this. We “respect” gays enough to not lock them up for “exchanging bodily fluids” but we cannot afford them the dignity of being married under the (civil) law. No, that would be going too far. Take your consolation and go away..
As I said, so much of this is really just bullying. Bullying of gay people for the sake of maintaining the rage. Of showing disrespect for them as people. Its not just Christians I was referring to when I talked about religious zealots. I have gay friends from other cultures in Sydney who are shamed, bullied, force to live lives that are shams. Now, gay marriage won’t take all of that away, but its one step towards a culture that does respect gay people and does frown on people who bully others for not acting in a way that suits the bully.
guytaur, so I assume that twitter responded to Crabbe with lots of reminders of how stupid, uninformed and rubbish her previous “journalism” was?
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That and lots of photos of Turnbull and Abbot with the suggestion go interview these guys about it.
Steve777 @ #60 Sunday, September 3rd, 2017 – 9:00 pm
The MSM is becoming increasingly irrelevant as a news source for most people, and Labor has been outstanding in using social media to work around them. Social media as a source of information, and as a campaign tool is becoming increasingly important, and the L/NP have themselves admitted they are being left behind by modern campaigning techniques.
Before seeing it for myself, I was a doubter about the effectiveness of Labor’s field campaign. Now having seen it and been a part of it myself, it presents Labor with an enormous advantage in ensuring that swings, which are never uniform, occur everywhere that matters.
The use of data analytics to ensure that their field campaign only calls or knocks on the doors of swinging voters is an enormous step forwards in the effectiveness of field campaigning and Labor are to be applauded for having the foresight and courage to adopt this approach after learning about it from the American Democrats.
The Crabb statement on the NBN was pathetic, it is as if she, like the rest of the press gallery took completely on faith what Abbott and Turnbull said on the NBN, despite what the experts said, and now only when she has direct experience has second thoughts.
This is a $50bn infrastructure project.
The Newspoll result is in the MOE, (and on a snowy week), so all it does is confirm the existing trend. The only thing that might be drawn from it is that it is taken in a non sitting period, which may be predictive.
Goodnight
Loving the Crabb twitter NBN thread..
Says it all 🙂
I am no fan of Judge Judy but I have to post this one,
https://youtu.be/IqZKFzFZEqc
Stupid.. Stupid.. Stupid..
https://thinkprogress.org/trump-names-climate-science-denier-to-run-nasa-c9a46a6f4a52/
STUPID!!!
Is this prick Drump just a massive Troll.. rhetorical…
@GuardianAus
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John Legend: ‘Trump is an embarrassment to the country’
guytaur:
“This morning Crabbe started tweeting about her problems getting the NBN. The usual horror story. She tweeted out an apology to all those she disbelieved before it occurred to her.”
It’s typical of the conservative mindset – it’s not a problem unless/until it affects them personally.
“In any case, his argument, if you call it as such is this. We “respect” gays enough to not lock them up for “exchanging bodily fluids” but we cannot afford them the dignity of being married under the (civil) law. No, that would be going too far. Take your consolation and go away..”
GG implies homosexual relationships are just about “exchanging bodily fluids”. It’s written in his “it ain’t a marriage” remarks – i.e. it’s not a *real* relationship; just a bit of rumpy-pumpy. Because, you know, all heterosexual marriages are based on love, and exchanging bodily fluids doesn’t factor into it.
The Daily Telegraph and it’s continuing campaign on ‘How bad Abbott was’ …
It’s obviously aimed at helping Turnbull and even possibly some “journo’s” writing now what they wish they’d written and got published ‘then’.
But the purpose of it immediately before Parliament resumes other than trying to influence members before Party Room Meetings?
Good government could start tomorrow? Next week? After Christmas?
(Whatever happened to Joe Hilderbrand?)
Is the Daily Terror worried about the prospect of Liberal leadership change?
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Americans have weird priorities.
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A ‘who makes better looking corpse’ concern?
ESPN commentary on results at the US Open – One female competitor got a positive endorsement after a win because she “didn’t lose her temper too badly”.
Pakistan:
http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2017/08/pakistan-slice-china-islamabad-170830081303813.html
UK:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/damian-green-a7926911.html
UK polling:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/theresa-may-warned-lynton-crosby-snap-general-election-a7926596.html
From the comments on the Survation Poll results –
🙂
German Federal Election:
https://ig.ft.com/germany-poll-tracker/
The only televised debate – Angela Merkel -v- Martin Schultz will take place in the next hour.
Good Morning Bludgers : )
You know, sometimes I’m glad that I have a million and one other things to do at the moment. That way I don’t have to waste my time reading Rex Douglas’ passive aggressive anti Labor trolling.
It’s positively Seinfeldian. An opinion about nothing!
Since No One Takes Trump Seriously, The White House Sent Out Mattis To Threaten N. Korea
Defense Secretary James Mattis warned North Korea that any threat to the United States would be met with a massive and overwhelming military response.
Mattis was sent out to threaten North Korea because he has more credibility than Trump. The North Koreans aren’t taking the President Of The United States seriously, so the White House to send out the Secretary of Defense to illustrate how serious this crisis has become
http://www.politicususa.com/2017/09/03/takes-trump-seriously-white-house-mattis-threaten-n-korea.html
‘He’s the pilot of a plane in a terrible downward spiral’: GOP consultants panicked Trump is destroying the party
According to the Washington Post, Trump’s antics are playing well with his rabid base but even Fox News viewers are beginning to recoil from the president.
“Trump’s job-approval numbers remain mired in the 30s in most polls, and several new findings last week gave Republicans interested in expanding the party’s appeal fresh reason to worry,” the Post reports. “A Fox News survey, for example, found that majorities of voters think that Trump is ‘tearing the country apart’ and does not respect racial minorities.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/09/hes-the-pilot-of-a-plane-in-a-terrible-downward-spiral-gop-consultants-panicked-trump-is-destroying-the-party/
I noticed that President Tiny Hands was wearing see-through plastic gloves on his visit to Texas after Hurricane Harvey. He’s giving Howard Hughes a run for his money!
Turnbull live on ABC TV this morning!
So, the WA Liberals are so dissatisfied with the Commonwealth Government they want to leave the Federation!
This is an indictment of both the local Liberals, who are tacitly admitting they have been completely ineffective in advancing WA’s interests, and their Federal counterparts, who clearly have taken WA for granted for many years.
Following the coming election, WA will benefit from the victory of a Labor-filled contingent of Federal MPs; and then from the cohesion of like-minded Labor Governments in WA and nationally for the first time since the early 1990s.
CTar1 @ #89 Monday, September 4th, 2017 – 7:05 am
And I bet they flayed him with a limp lettuce leaf.
http://www.9news.com.au/national/2017/09/04/04/30/malcolm-turnbull-called-tony-abbott-hopeless-and-disloyal-a-before-taking-prime-ministership
This doesn’t sound like Brian Turmoil! I’m starting to get the impression he’s a big pisshead.
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The Barnett Govt keeping the state National Party ‘sweet’ for 4 years in WA will cost the state for at least a decade.
http://www.theage.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pyne-flags-seat-switch-if-boundary-change-unfavourable-20170903-gy9s48.html
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At the end of the Channel 9 vid on Turnbull’s ‘dummy spit’ Charles Croucher, ace reporter, describes 2PP 53-47 as a ‘small lead’.
If that washed out even to the ALP gaining only 10 seats from the Libs you’d have to wonder how many seats he’d need to report a ‘winning lead’?
Good morning Dawn Patrollers. Sorry about the lateness this morning.
Adam Gartrell writes that the Turnbull government is bracing for another chaotic week in Federal Parliament, with Labor warning “anything could happen” as it seeks to turn the screws on Deputy Prime Minister Barnaby Joyce.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/chaos-looms-as-parliament-resumes-amid-ongoing-citizenship-drama-20170903-gy9pk5.html
Mark Kenny uses cricket analogies to show what trouble the government is in.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-opinion/torrid-times-test-turnbulls-team-20170903-gy9u7b.html
Pyne hinted he would switch seats even if Sturt is retained but is rendered more marginal by boundary changes.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/pyne-flags-seat-switch-if-boundary-change-unfavourable-20170903-gy9s48
Urban Wronski tells us about Magnificent Malcolm’s latest diversionary efforts.
https://urbanwronski.com/2017/09/03/super-mal-of-monaro-fails-to-save-the-day/
Peter Martin looks at various proposals for the Medicare and other levies.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/dont-just-lift-the-medicare-levy-remove-the-loopholes-acoss-20170903-gy9ukd.html
Remind me to avoid going to Sydney in the future!
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/double-toll-looms-as-lendlease-bids-to-build-motorway-to-sydney-airport-20170903-gy9nk8.html
North Korea’s sixth nuclear test was expected. The timing speaks of Kim Jong-un’s willingness to provoke China; and an attempt to seize the moment to wedge South Korea and Donald Trump. Only China can do something.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/kim-jongun-crossed-chinas-red-line-with-nuclear-test-now-ball-is-in-beijings-court-20170903-gy9sva.html
But US Defence Secretary Jim Mattis threatened a “massive military response” to any attack on the United States or its allies after North Korea conducted its most powerful nuclear test to date.
http://www.smh.com.au/world/massive-military-response-if-north-korea-attacks-us-defence-chief-threatens-20170903-gya0m7.html
Barack Obama warned Donald Trump to uphold the rule of law and not undermine the “international order” in a newly revealed letter from the 44th US president to his successor. The former president gave Trump three key pieces of advice in a letter he left in the Oval Office when he departed the White House.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/03/obama-warned-trump-not-to-undermine-international-order-new-letter-reveals
A leading member of a congressional intelligence committee is threatening to subpoena the White House in order to obtain a draft letter that Donald Trump reportedly wanted to send to James Comey when he fired him as FBI chief.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/sep/03/white-house-threatened-with-subpoena-over-draft-letter-from-trump-to-comey
Section 2 . . .
Greg Sheridan writes that dictator Kim Jong-un has created the moment of truth for US President Donald Trump and China’s Xi Jinping. Google.
/opinion/columnists/greg-sheridan/north-koreas-nukes-test-trump-china-resolve/news-story/f53168cf7ebb4192bdac79a03700a510
Ross Gittins explains how we get some crazy economic decisions made by politicians.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/the-economy/treasury-must-prevail-against-pushy-young-punks-20170902-gy9jg8.html
Greg Jericho says that the government will be in trouble if the improved business outlook does not translate into higher wages.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/grogonomics/2017/sep/03/economic-news-is-good-for-the-government-but-will-it-trickle-down-before-the-next-election
And Alan Austin writes that August 2017 has been atrocious for the wellbeing of most Australians. Treasurer Scott Morrison and his cabinet colleagues must be jubilant that other calamities are drowning out mainstream media reports on the failing economy.
https://independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/august-economic-news-marvellous-for-the-moguls-miserable-for-the-majority,10680
NAB to employ “chatbots”.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/nabs-virtual-banker-chatbots-to-save-millions-20170901-gy8pn3.html
This Michael West editorial says there is no deterrent for bad behaviour in banking. The system is broken. The top brass at the banks invoke the “reverse-Nuremberg defence”. They blame their foot-soldiers for not following orders, claim there is not enough evidence to prove they were following orders or, in CBA’s case … “it was the computers wot did it”
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/banks-regulators-and-the-reverse-nuremberg-defence/
US senator Claire McCaskill’s bid to clarify the act that gives internet firms a get out of jail card over content published on their sites has alarmed Silicon Valley.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/sep/03/woman-strikes-fear-into-internet-giants-claire-mccaskill-communications-decency-act
The Liberal heroine Kathy Jackson has abandoned her $3m claim on a wealthy barrister’s estate. Google.
/news/nation/kathy-jackson-abandons-claim-on-barristers-estate/news-story/9825976ce60dc78fa014638e90529d8c
This GP says pathology tests are over used.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/young-healthy-and-demanding-blood-tests-the-americanisation-of-aussie-patients-20170829-gy6ei1.html
It seems inevitable that the CBA will face investigation in the US.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/banking-and-finance/cbas-alleged-transaction-monitoring-problems-spark-american-probes-20170903-gy9p8k.html
Section 3 . . . with Cartoon Corner
The charity sector is in a last-ditch effort to shield itself from the Turnbull government’s planned crackdown on foreign political influence, amid concerns charities will be caught up in the donations ban.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/political-donations-charities-fear-unintended-consequences-of-new-rules-20170825-gy4kzs.html
And it’s bye bye to Adrian Poiccoli. This will make three by-elections for Gladys before the end of the year.
http://www.smh.com.au/national/education/former-education-minister-adrian-piccoli-quits-politics-to-take-up-job-at-unsw-20170902-gy9mnu.html
Private health insurance is not without its problems.
http://www.smh.com.au/money/planning/is-private-health-insurance-worth-it-20170831-gy7uvq.html
The SMH editorial supports the banning of the US ant-vaxxer.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/with-freedom-of-expression-comes-responsibility-20170901-gy99uk.html
Matt Golding and “unintended” consequences.
Matt Golding traces Trump’s obsession with this thumb.
Jon Kudelka and the desperation in the government ranks over citizenship.
http://cdn.newsapi.com.au/image/v1/fa6def8d71d9b76a38a62d4648539c62
Re the 53-47 “small lead “, reported on Channel shows the lack of numeracy and awareness of how the Australian political system works.
It is only 14 months since the last election.
The opposition has led for 19 polls.
Given historical and marginal seat figures this is a significant swing.
Also regarding PPM, I think at least some people don’t necessarily dislike Shorten, it’s just that they like the idea of Turnbull as PM, even if not the actuality.
Some people of course would never vote Labor, even if Albanese was leader (or should that be especially if Albo was leader, given he is from the left).
Morning all
Thanks BK, Phoenix and others for todays offerings!