A new poll conducted for ReachTEL by Sky News gives Labor a 52-48 lead on two-party preferred, which is down from 53-47 at the last such poll on May 11. At the moment, primary vote figures are limited to the first question which allowed for an undecided response, which comes in a 7.1% – I assume the undecided were then given a forced response question, to which we don’t yet have the results. If the undecided are simply excluded from the available numbers, the results are Coalition 36.5%, Labor 35.6%, Greens 10.3% and One Nation 9.8%.
An all-or-nothing question on the Liberal leadership breaks 68.3-31.7 in favour of Malcolm Turnbull over Tony Abbott, while Turnbull leads Bill Shorten 54.1-45.9 as preferred prime minister. Turnbull’s combined very good plus good rating is “just under 27%”, compared with 36.5% for poor or very poor. Same-sex marriage has 62.4% supportive and 25.9% opposed, with most believing the matter should be determined by a plebiscite, and 64.1% believe penalty rates should be higher on Sundays than Saturdays. The poll was conducted yesterday from a sample of 2389.
“Just because we’re not going to church doesn’t mean there’s not a new sort of religion to hold us in its thrall.”
Why do people who are religious need to assume everyone else needs religion too. We all want a sense of the spiritual – or at least a sense of meaning that gives our life purpose – I might get it from planning public transport that will in some ways make a small part of the world a better place. We also all want a sense of belonging – a group we identify with. But it does not have to be religious, and certainly does not have to be in an organised religion with a power structure.
A certain trial is about to commence soon in this country that illustrates much of what is wrong with such things in my opinion. Put simply, religious power structures are too open to abuse by fallible human beings, and too often emempted from normal processes of accountability for their actions.
I also preferred Keating to Hawke (and Gillard and Rudd). I do not want to dump on Hawke because he was a skilled politician. But apart from being too far to the right, Hawke was the beneficiary of a victory platform that had been laid for him by Hayden in my opinion. Keating by contrast had much tougher battles to win following the recession.
Have a good day all.
Sorry that was “too often exempted from accountability”. I’m sure you can think of an example of the sort of person I mean.
Lizzie
Yes. I noticed the agencies using it declined to say ‘what for’.
Fraud, I’d say true, but also think that it’s use is most likely only for agency internal employees purposes.
I am certainly not in favour of it and want to hear in what circumstances they would use this software.
If it gets to that point, I think, it should be the AFP conducting the investigation.
William at 3;46 am
Bemused, I’ve generally been rather a critic of Kevin Rudd’s, but now that you’ve pasted a slab of text and bolded the bit with his name in it, I think I might have come round.
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Pure gold William! Can I join the line of bludgers wanting to marry you? Of course the posse of prejudiced purveyors of wedding cakes could be a problem, but I have a cunning plan [Hint: Maxine Max….]. Suffer in your downsized jocks GG…
Quite obviously the CPG and the MSM generally are flailing around in the dark over Abbott vs Turnbull. Today’s wide variety of opinionated pieces (Abbott full steam ahead, Abbott doesn’t have a hope, Turnbull on the offensive to regain votes etc) show that they have no more inside knowledge than you or I.
Perhaps the other writers will join Massola soon and mention that Shorten has started talking about what he will do in his first 100 days of office.
LOL too funny!
Thanks BK. PvO seems to be getting more and more annoyed with the Liberal party antics with each passing column!
The bottom line is the RGR war gave us Abbott. He was never popular. The nation wanted the RGR war to end.
The Labor party didn’t or wouldn’t do it so the nation did. The Labor party shot itself in the foot.
The Libs are doing the same thing. The result for them will be the same.
confessions @ #257 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 2:11 am
Probably the most unintentionally hilarious statement ever made on PB by the main protagonist.
greg mcauliffe @ #309 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:25 am
The other bottom line is if the loser accepts the decision and walks away you don’t have the potential for this undermining inspired purely by their bent ego.
This morning’s Alan Moir: Abbott’s 10 Point Plan
‘Probably the most unintentionally hilarious statement ever made on PB by the main protagonist.’
bemused, you know how people here talk of your lack of self awareness…? Well, you totally won’t understand the point of this post….
william bowe @ #261 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 3:46 am
It is never too late to mend your ways!
More seriously, I am critical of some of his actions too.
I posted that as we get a persistent, mendacious claim repeated on this site that he doesn’t have any positions post politics and is some kind of a pariah.
That article is from Wharton University in the US. It illustrates that he is taken seriously and his opinions valued.
Barney
Yep — and that is the main difference between Hawke/Keating and Rudd/Gillard.
‘I posted that as we get a persistent, mendacious claim repeated on this site that he doesn’t have any positions post politics and is some kind of a pariah.’
So why address that post to me? I’ve never made any such claim.
Bemused
I shall be very relieved when you abandon your obsession with Confessions. It’s very childish. You accuse her when she isn’t even involved.
DG – Moir has Tones barnyabbie puce!
LoL
The concluding remarks from PvO:
How unsurprisement that there isn’t a woman among them.
I understand that maths was not Abbott’s strong suit.
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Trump’s latest Tweet
(just kidding)
Confessions
Probably annoyed at it increasing the chances for a (gasp!) Labor government.
lizzie @ #320 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:54 am
Maybe he’s like Trump and you need to draw a pretty picture (graph) for him to comprehend what he’s saying and being told. 🙂
bk @ #282 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 8:15 am
The truth behind our ‘gas shortage’ …
… is that as a nation we are shortsighted, greedy and stupid.
poroti:
Indeed!
So not much has changed, here or in the US since yesterday.
More Abbott, Turnbull, Abbott agitation and the associated media confused frenzy.
More Trump idiocy.
I despair that the leaders of the world are completely bonkers, or more likely, self-serving narcissists
Reading the GG, the only explanations you hear for high gas and electricity prices generally are
* state restrictions on gas exploration.
* the renewable energy target.
That is all.
This is a good article from medium (from Mother Jones), on technology and it’s impact on income and wealth disparity.
“Facebook’s Not Designed to Create A ‘Global Community’” https://medium.com/mother-jones/facebooks-not-designed-to-create-a-global-community-d521d8f9221a
Some quotes :
“Technology is nothing but an expression of human values. It’s not neutral, it’s not about efficiency, it’s about people’s values and their knowledge. If you share information widely, but you present that information in ways that fits your own view, you’re actually still misrepresenting.”
On income :
“Instagram was sold to Facebook for $1 billion with 13 employees in the Bay Area. In the same year, Kodak, which had employed more than 40,000 people, was bankrupt. What is happening in a digital economy where 40,000 people lose their jobs and 13 people become super millionaires?”
Lizzie
Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 9:54 am
“I understand that maths was not Abbott’s strong suit.
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..brilliant!! ..thanx for sharing, Lizzie. Shows Abbott to be so ignorant, he doesn’t know that he doesn’t know ..Lol!!
Great comment on Mike Secombe’s story in the Saturday Paper this morning:
Paul Barratt @phbarratt 20m20 minutes ago
Even with boxing, [Tony Abbott] couldn’t be bothered to find out anything about it.
William if you are still interested in the pollbludger domain I think it needs some love and care.
https://twitter.com/BetteMidler/status/880556126718181376
When a picture speaks a thousand words.
Fess
To be filed under “thing I didnt need to see”
‘fess
On the quote you put up from the PvO article one point. He’s is, I think, right in the names to watch but I doubt that Frydenberg is anywhere as hard line right as Porter or Dutton.
I’ve not got much or any time for him but I’d say as a junior he may be trying to demonstrate that he’ll do what he’s told to do.
Trog
He’s mad enough!
Ides:
Not for the first time I’m wondering how Melania feels about all the misogynistic things Trump says about women. Does she feel embarrassed that she is married to such a sexist pig? How do Trump’s daughters feel about his remarks?
CTar:
I don’t know much about Frydenberg’s politics, but he’s never struck me as particularly sharp. More of a Dutton-lite than anything else.
Very amusing comment on various religions.
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On the topics of conservatives and moderates, I saw an SMH article saying that Concietta Feveranti-Wells was a moderate???
Ides Of March
That’s because she has worked with immigrants, I believe. Doesn’t actually want to send them back!
lizzie @ #338 Saturday, July 1, 2017 at 11:07 am
Thank you ❗ 😇
How many point plans have Abbott has made ??
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/30/climate/scott-pruitt-climate-change-red-team.html?smid=fb-nytimes&smtyp=cur&_r=0
The banks and their business friends, supported by Murdoch’s Advertiser, have whipped up a frenetic campaign against SA Labor’s bank tax.
The protest seems to be bearing fruit. A Galaxy poll in the Tiser today shows 28% in favour of the tax, 55% opposed and 17% uncommitted.
Labor voters are 52% in favour, 32% against and 16% uncommitted.
Liberal voters are 32% in favour, 76% and 9% uncommitted.
Mind you, respondents were asked a loaded question:
“In the recent State Budget, the Treasurer, Tom Koutsantonis, announced the introduction of a new major bank tax that is estimated will raise $370 million over four years. Some analysts say the banks will pass this tax on to their customers through higher fees and charges. On balance, are you in favour or opposed to this new bank tax?”
Opposition leader Steven Marshall initially announced he would not oppose passage of the Budget through parliament but he’s coming under immense pressure to stop the tax in the upper house, where Xenophon and Conservative (formerly Family First) members have spoken out against the tax.
Should read, Liberal voters are 76% opposed to the tax.
Hi William
As of next Friday my current PB email will be made redundant. Do I need to set up a new account with my new email or is there some way to change my existing account
Thanks
David
LNP always wants to avoid paying taxes, thus their supporters also do not want to pay their far share…
@Davidwh
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A great tweet from Peter van Onselen.
https://twitter.com/vanOnselenP/status/880700929695252480
Thanks Zoidlord