The Guardian reports that the latest reading of the Essential Research fortnight rolling average, which has been delayed a day due to Monday’s public holiday, has Labor’s two-party lead unchanged at 52-48, after it fell from 53-47 last week. Primary votes will have to wait until later today. UPDATE: Full report here, with primary votes at Coalition 38% (down one), Labor 36% (down one), Greens 10% (steady), One Nation 8% (up two).
Other reported findings focus on terrorism and a low emissions target, with the former including a 47% approval rating for Malcolm Turnbull’s handling of the terror threat, compared with 56% in October 2015, and 24% disapproval, compared with 17%; 74% saying the terrorism threat in Australia has risen over recent years; 46% saying the government should be spending more on counter-terrorism, compared with only 9% for less; and 44% saying there should be more restrictions on rights and freedoms to combat terrorism, with only 12% saying current restrictions go too far, and 19% believing the current balance is right.
With respect to carbon emissions, 44% favour a low emissions target and 20% an emissions intensity scheme, with 36% opting for don’t know; and 27% saying capture and storage from coal generation should count as a low emissions energy source, compared with 29% who disagreed.
Also this week:
• The Australia Institute has published a ReachTEL poll of the Environment Minister Josh Frydenberg’s seat of Kooyong, which after incorporating prompting responses for the undecided finds primary votes of Liberal 48.9% (58.2% at the election), Labor 25.5% (19.8%) and Greens 17.0% (18.9%), and a respondent-allocated two-party result of 56-44 to Liberal (63.3-36.7). The poll also records a 77.9-15.5 split in favour of a clean energy target,
• Western Australian Senator Chris Back has announced he will retire as of the end of July, leaving a vacancy for a three-year term that runs to mid-2019. Andrew Burrell of The Australian identifies two possible successors: Slade Brockman, former chief-of-staff to Mathias Cormann, who is rated the front-runner; and Matt O’Sullivan, chief operating officer of Andrew Forrest’s GenerationOne indigenous youth employment scheme, who ran unsuccessfully in the southern Perth seat of Burt at last year’s federal election.
Doyley – yesterday, Madam Asbestos in Parliament showed it is clearly dead-cat on the table time (I wonder why) and Fairfax is helping them.
Virginia used her ‘in the interests of balance’ frame this morning to say that the ALP are also conflicted over Finkel.
That discussion would be between the sides wanting to accept it as is and/or wanting to improve it! COMPLETELY different to the Coalition battle.
C@
No, he’d be 4th in that case…
Put it this way, I’ve had friends boast about being fourth on the ticket. I’ve never ever even heard someone mention being lower than that. It doesn’t even give you boasting rights.
zoomster @ #48 Wednesday, June 14th, 2017 – 8:38 am
A Senate candidate is not an office boy.
First comes “the denials” 😉
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/politicsnow-live-energy-target-backlash-as-pm-faces-revolt/news-story/f2ac5cd94eed7404301a2f08fb4593d5
Thanks BK,
Here is a breakdown of the IELTS bands.
http://takeielts.britishcouncil.org/find-out-about-results/understand-your-ielts-scores
They are proposing you need to achieve a Band 6 to pass, this is what a foreign student needs to achieve to be accepted into an Australian University.
F$%&ing ridiculous!
A person with a Band 4 ability has the basic simple English to deal with many situations in the present.
I would be fascinated to see the results if a random sample of Australian born citizens were asked to take the test.
Frydenberg fucks up the Lord Howe Island board, ARENA, and NSW Treasury plan to reduce diesel usage on the island. They wanted to install 2- yes 2 – not 20 – wind turbines as part of their wind-solar -battery microgrid. The project has been on the drawing board for months and just as they were calling for tenders, Josh says no.
Much better to pollute the environment with diesel fumes, according to our Minister for the Environment, Coal and Diesel.
Lord Howe microgrid in doubt as Frydenberg rules out wind turbines
http://reneweconomy.com.au/39084-2/
Player One
Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:37 am
booleanbach @ #42 Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 8:31 am
Virginia used her ‘in the interests of balance’ frame this morning to say that the ALP are also conflicted over Finkel.
They sure are – they don’t know whether to laugh or cry!
ROFL that about sums it up.
GG
Someone at 7th is. They stand absolutely no chance at all of being elected, under any conceivable scenario (fourth is a distant outside chance). They don’t even campaign (fourth does).
It’s the same with very Coalition safe seats – they’re often allocated to someone on the basis of an organiser, on the day nominations close, tapping someone in Head Office on the shoulder and asking if they’d mind having their name put down.
Re Finkel – it would be barely worth doing if the report were adopted in full by the Government. Finkel seems to have already compromised, coming up with something he thought the Coalition Government might accept. Labor could consider supporting it on the grounds that we have to make a start and they can fix it when they get in.
However, if the Government tries to lock in allowance for further coal development, “clean” or otherwise, that should be a deal breaker. We’d be better off doing what we’re doing now (i.e. nothing).
Trog
Was Josh lobbied by the provider of diesel on LHI? 🙂
…and the serious advice always is that if you have any political ambitions at all, don’t let your name be put forward, because if anything it counts against you.
No rising star would LET themselves be 7th on the Senate ticket.
The MSM seem to be generally ignoring (deliberately?) what Shorten has to say on energy.
However local FM radio news this morning played a short sound grab of Shorten telling the LNP to get their act together.
Lizzie
This project has LHI has been actively funded and planned since 2014. Coalition resistance is purely ideological. Just another example of economic and environmental vandalism by the worst government managers in Australia’s history.
The biggest losers in the UK election?
No surprise to anyone here — it’s the media.
‘..the media has created a hall of mirrors, in which like-minded people reflect and reproduce each other’s opinions.
The broadcasters echo what the papers say, the papers pick up what the broadcasters say. A narrow group of favoured pundits appear on the news programmes again and again. Press prizes are awarded to those who reflect the consensus, and denied to those who think differently. People won’t step outside the circle for fear of ridicule and exclusion.’
Whilst true, the amusing thing about this is that it’s exactly what the msm say about social media outlets such as facebook.
‘… broadcasters allow themselves to be led by the newspapers, despite the massive bias of the printed press. For example, during the 2015 election campaign opinion polls revealed that the NHS came top of the list of voters’ concerns while the economy came third. But the economy, on which the Conservatives were perceived to be strongest, received four times as much coverage on TV news as the NHS, which was seen as Labour’s strongest suit. This appeared to reflect the weight given to these issues in the papers.’
We see the same thing here, where issues such as education, health, climate change and the NBN are ignored in favour of ‘economic management’ and boat people.
‘ Those who have thrown so much energy into the great political revival, many of whom are young, have been almost unrepresented; their concerns and passions have been unheeded, misunderstood or reviled. When they have raised complaints, journalists have often reacted angrily, writing off movements that have gathered in hope as a rabble of Trots and wreckers.’
Or, as with Laura Tingle, stating that all her critics are unintelligent and don’t understand the issues. Or ‘the context’.
‘Wherever they come from, journalists, on average, end up better paid than most people. Whatever their professed beliefs, they tend to be drawn towards their class interests…’
Absolutely. When has someone like Annabelle Crabbe suffered because of a decision made by the Coalition?
‘But the biggest problem, I believe, is that we spend too much time in each other’s company, a tendency that is fatal in an industry that is meant to reflect the world. …The first ambition of a journalist should be to know as few journalists as possible – to escape the hall of mirrors.’
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/13/election-tories-media-broadcasters-press-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
‘https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jun/13/election-tories-media-broadcasters-press-jeremy-corbyn?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other
Trog
When the Islanders are 92% in favour, the cloth-eared decision seems madness. What price democracy now?
Yep Frydenberg’s refusal to allow wind power on lord howe isl is on ideological and political grounds only. Having made such a fuss about renewable energy sources in SA they’d look silly allowing LHI to have renewable energy. This is just madness – the national interest is being held captive by the rank incompetence of our govt!
Lizzie
Autocratic in the extreme.
zoomster @ #65 Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 9:04 am
Also, the one thing that really surprised me when I lived in the UK was how the tabloids could drive the political debate/conversation of the day.
It seemed like every front page headline was something that had to be commented on, no matter how trivial.
‘Mark, the ABC was giving balanced coverage this morning, they had reps from both LNP factions.’
Don’t listen to AM anymore, but heard on a promo that Morrison would be making what is probably about his 20th appearance this year.
I’m sure that Sabra’s little promo announcing that the treasurer would be on again will draw in all those listeners, eager to listen to his words of wisdom.
Maybe the ABC is aiming for The Australian’s readership as its radio audience.
I have to be out this morning, but I though Grimace deserved a further response to his proposed “decarbonization” proposal outlined here …
The problem with this is it is just a description of a possible endpoint scenario (two, actually). It describes a very rosy future, albeit with some heroic technological, social, demographic, growth and economic assumptions. It is also (it has to be said) extraordinarily expensive – around $800 billion dollars in new investment, plus additional god-knows-how-many billions of dollars to support the write-off of stranded assets (e.g. nearly all existing generation plants). So perhaps a final figure approaching a trillion dollars?
But the main problem with it is that it provides no hint of a mechanism on how we might get there from here. It is not really a proposal, a scheme, a process or a plan. It is just a description of the endpoint. As such, not a lot of use.
And of course the report believes that rooftop PV is going to be simply Yuuuuge! Not that surprising in a report sponsored by a group affiliated with rooftop PV, I suppose.
Be nice to each other in my absence : )
lizzie @ #66 Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 9:05 am
A bit like with SSM.
We will look back on this govt as being a wasteland of missed opportunities on a whole range of fronts, but most esp when it comes to the environment and mitigating our GHGEs.
I can’t wait to turf them out.
The cloth earredness of the local media is on display – Cathy McGowan voted with the government yesterday to disallow Labor’s bill against the penalty rate cuts. She was the only independent to do so (even some Coalition MPs pointedly stayed away). Her facebook page is filled with criticism of her actions.
Not a peep from the local media.
Seems Massola finally found where the real “leadershit’ crisis is.
When you’re Massola all roads lead to leadershit.
Zoomster you are correct about the 7th position but it is still irrelevant. As GG said it is a bad look to have them there at all. Crying “the Libs took donations too” is also no help to our side. It’s always seen as a weak position. Labor needs to accept responsibility for it’s own stuff ups and be seen to be fixing them.
All Labor can do is be seen to be making sure they have an internal process in place to stop repeats and be seen to support any measures to limit the influencing of all the parties by China or any other government. Hoping for a fair hearing from the MSM is always wishful thinking. Labor always needs to be more careful than the rest and should know it.
The LHI Board website explains the detailed consideration of building wind turbines (including visual impact, noise) and the extent of consultation with residents. Solar and battery storage have also been examined. The LHI board is essentially a local government under NSW legislation, so the NSW government would be fully aware of the proposal to build the turbines.
This is one place where renewable energy is likely to be more reliable than using diesel generators, with fuel delivered fortnightly and the possibility of generators breaking down.
On noise, I remember various outback settlements relying on diesel power generation having the constant sound of generators going through the night.
Perhaps there are some Lord Howe residents of the RWNJ variety who know the ‘right’ people in Frydenberg’s office.
http://www.lhib.nsw.gov.au/infrastructure/renewable-energy
kevjohnno @ #76 Wednesday, June 14, 2017 at 9:30 am
Where did Zoomster say anything different?
Have to go out, but I’ll leave you with this. 🙁
https://www.michaelwest.com.au/revealed-adani-embroiled-in-african-corruption-scandal/
Barney I did not say or mean to imply that Zoomster had said anything different. I was just giving my opinion that whether or not being 7th on the ticket was any indication of Zhou’s true status in the party was irrelevant to the position the Labor party find’s itself in, as were any attempts to point fingers at the Libs and media bias.
Kevjohnno
I was more commenting on the accuracy of the reporting – calling someone a ‘rising star’ when they’re clearly not.
Either the writers don’t know much about the importance of various spots on the Senate ticket – in which case they shouldn’t portray themselves as political commentators – or they do and are deliberately trying to make out that this guy is more important than he is.
Either way, it’s poor reporting and we shouldn’t accept it.
Although “Minor party official…” doesn’t make as good a headline.
…and, sorry, why shouldn’t the Liberals have fingers pointed at them and why shouldn’t media bias be called out? Particularly if both are relevant to the story.
Andrew Robb getting $800 k a year from Chinese interests after negotiating a trade deal with China is a bigger story than a donation linked to an office boy.
Labor losing a promised donation of $400k because they refused to take the line the donor wanted is a bigger story than Sam Dastyari making a few phone calls.
We can walk and chew gum.
7th on Senate ticket would only apply in a double dissolution, or possibly a normal one where one of more casual vacancies arose in the current term. In a normal election (e.g. 2013) the major parties have six candidates, one for each spot.
My take for Labor chances in a Senate election:
1-2: shoe-in
3: possible
4: very remote chance
5-6: also ran
Actually, Steve, good point – it was a DD, so 7th spot had more significance.
My bad. So he was the equivalent of 4th on a normal ticket, which gives C@’s theory more credence.
Apologies.
…but still not a rising star, although he probably thought he was (those given fourth spots always do…)
Zoomster I also think the Libs should have the finger pointed at them but know if it is the Labor doing the pointing it will not help, but actually hurt, as it always looks as though you are seeking to downplay your own problems when you use that tactic. I want the media to call them out but am cynical as to the chances of that happening.
Corbyn is pretty impressive. Well worth listening to what he has to say. His speech starts at 5.35.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zncI9vcda0
If the ALP was terribly divided over a central policy and the ABC ran interviews from protagonists in the ALP but none from the LNP, would that be evidence of ABC bias?
The reverse apparently happened this morning with the LNP divisions being the focus and the normal clowns squeal about ABC bias because no-one from the ALP was interviewed on it.
“Never interrupt your enemy when he is making mistakes” is sound advice. Either the ALP followed it or the ABC did them a favour.
If anyone knows of a list of grid scale battery projects (broken down by proposed, approved, under construction etc) equivalent to the below lists, I would be most grateful and give you all the upvotes I can, which is 0 I guess.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_wind_farms_in_Australia#Under_construction
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_power_in_Australia#Status_by_state
Shorten on Energy at the moment.
Translation;
We’re going to stand back and let the Government rip the sh!t out of themselves on energy policy and once they come up with something, if it doesn’t come up to an acceptable standard, then we’ll start on them.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/live/2017/jun/14/climate-politics-comes-back-to-haunt-coalition-with-divided-party-room-meeting-politics-live
‘The broadcasters echo what the papers say, the papers pick up what the broadcasters say. A narrow group of favoured pundits appear on the news programmes again and again. Press prizes are awarded to those who reflect the consensus, and denied to those who think differently. People won’t step outside the circle for fear of ridicule and exclusion.’
Precisely. It’s a little club, and you sure don’t like it if outsiders threaten the sanctity of your club.
Richard Denniss in the AFR:
“Professor Finkel has provided a road map for energy policy for a political class that is determined to stay off the freeway of carbon pricing in any form and seek instead the scenic backroads of encouraging renewables without discouraging the burning of coal. That said, the scenic route is far quicker than staying put.”
Read more: http://www.afr.com/opinion/columnists/finkel-road-map-takes-scenic-route-to-cutting-carbon-20170613-gwpxio?utm_source=TractionNext&utm_medium=Email&utm_campaign=Worm-Subscribe-140617#ixzz4jvrJ2WPw
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“If the ALP was terribly divided over a central policy and the ABC ran interviews from protagonists in the ALP but none from the LNP, would that be evidence of ABC bias?”
Not necessarily, but when the ABC’s agenda setting morning radio current affairs program has consistently, over at least a year, produced a ratio of about 10 to 15-1 spokespersons favouring the coalition, we have a problem that only the most obtuse would fail to recognise.
Adding to Zoomster’s quotation, this is how The Australian wields influence far beyond its limited circulation, when its talking points are often regurgitated by other branches of the right wing media.
Good Morning
srpeatling: #BREAKING Turnbull govt will settle a call action to compensate nearly 2000 current and former Manus Island detainees.
More taxpayers dollars wasted
“That said, the scenic route is far quicker than staying put.”
If he thinks we have time for the scenic route, then he is a fool.
As I said above, according to Coorey, lifting the threshold will not help coal because coal will only get get a tiny benefit from certificates under the Finkel proposal, because they will still have significant emissions, whereas solar, wind, etc, which have zero emissions will get a huge benefit. So, if Malcolm wants to protect “clean” coal he will need to insert a massive fudge somewhere.
zoomster
Agree with you on the media. I doubt having as few journalist friends as possible is going to help them. The group think comes into effect at editorial meetings. No getting around that.
The only way the media can combat their bias is to have independent editors who are willing to be just that. Independent. Then the journalists real life stories won’t be quashed because it does not fit into what the editor wants the slant of the paper to be.
We see this most obviously with the climate change debate where science is discounted and denialists are given a credible space to pontificate in.
Adrian
When ‘The Australian’ first went behind the paywall, I was amused to notice that the ABC morning programs suddenly started reporting issues differently.
Then a couple of weeks later, they went back to whatever was on The Oz’s front page.
Must have sorted out their subscription in the meantime…
guytaur
Firstly, give George Monbiot the credit, I’m only quoting!
Secondly, you’re correct. I remember doing a very in depth interview with a journo locally. She was obviously very interested in my views. Later, another journalist from the same paper (a personal friend) rang me to say the whole newsroom was buzzing with my story, and it was front page material.
It ended up as a couple of paras deep inside the depths of the paper….