The Essential Research fortnight rolling average records a one-point shift to the Coalition on two-party preferred for the second week in a row, which reflects an unusually strong result for them in last week’s sample. Labor’s lead is now at 52-48, with both parties up a point on the primary vote, the Coalition to 39% and Labor to 37%, the Greens down one to 10%, and One Nation up one to 6%.
Presumably in response to the Margaret Court episode, there are a number of questions on same-sex marriage, which records 60% support and 26% opposition compared with a 62-27 split in August last year. Sixty-one per cent support of the matter being determined by a plebiscite, with 27% favouring a vote by parliament. This compares with 59-25 in August, although Kevin Bonham notes Newspoll had it at 48-39 for a vote in parliament last September. Thirty-four per cent say they would be more likely to vote for a party or candidate who supported same-sex marriage, compared with 19% for less likely.
The poll finds 41% saying jobs on the Great Barrier Reef should be prioritised in a trade-off with jobs in the coal industry, compared with 12% for vice-versa and 21% denying such a trade-off was real. Apropos the Uluru statement, the poll records solid pluralities in favour even of of the more radical of its proposals. The poll also records 41% saying too much is spent on foreign aid compared with 16% for too little, although it also found the median respondent believed foreign aid accounted for around 2% of the budget, compared with a true figure of less than 1%.
We’re also now getting weekly attitudinal polling from YouGov for Fifty Acres, which will in due course expand to voting intention results. Its findings published on Friday recorded 45% support for a new verse for the national anthem recognising the indigenous as the first peoples, with 30% opposed; 53% opposed to a proposed increase in the refugee settlement program to 10,000 a year (no result for in favour was provided); and 52% support for same-sex marriage (no result for opposed was provided).
Bill Shorten must grow a beard!
Maybe when he’s 68, GG. 🙂
However, what I would like him to do is get bolshy about some Corbynite policy!
trog sorrenson @ #1046 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:43 pm
It stinks of a deal between big unions/Shorten/big coal/Turnbull
The smart ones will see that he offers them great opportunity.
Step up and take a bow the Deputy Leader of the Labour Party, Tom Watson. Now just a step away from the top job when Corbyn retires.
c@tmomma @ #1052 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:52 pm
Tom Watson the great flip flopper
This one’s for Cud Chewer, straight from Finkel, and based on 2017 figures …
Average LCOE ($ per MWH) for various sources, predicted for 2020:
PV + storage = $138
gas CCGT = $83
supercritical coal = $76
Average LCOE ($ per MWH) for various sources, predicted for 2030:
PV + storage = $87
gas CCGT = $93
supercritical coal = $75
So yes, by 2030 PV + storage may be competitive with gas – but it is not yet.
trog sorrenson @ #1046 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:43 pm
Well, just as a guess, I’d say that is because Finkel knows the difference between exponential growth and logistic growth.
rex douglas @ #1051 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:50 pm
You truly are a ratbag Rex.
Shorten and unions would have had zero influence.
Shorten is plenty bolshy enough.
Hitting neg gearing, and capital gains, going to bat for higher taxes for millionaires and no tax rises for the middle and lower class, funding public health and education. These aren’t so far from Corbyn’s manifesto. And Bill’s been at it longer than Jezza.
As with the attacks on Corbyn it mostly driven by insiders telling each other what they think the bubble expects. Corbyn would kill to be in Shorten’s position.
When did you last see your mandate, madam?
https://t.co/uQxL6MuCyg
Did anyone think the Finkel report wouldn’t be compromised in some way?
Have you been watching this govt when it comes to AGW and the environment?
Theresa May’s Brexit team are warming up!
https://t.co/wXmjG2PSsQ
C@Tmomma
Check out Jezza “fighting Tories” in 1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZsYvkTw4Rg
and fighting Maggie T in 1990
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhEPyjolGQQ&feature=youtu.be
Finkel doesn’t work out his own figures – he just gets them from the incumbents or adjusts them to suit his political case.
e.g.
Prices less than this were quoted last year – before we had the massive price drop precipitated by Musk’s Tweet.
LCOE of PV + storage is going to be less than $100 /MWH according to ex Hazelwood boss Tony Concannon
http://reneweconomy.com.au/ex-hazelwood-boss-says-solar-storage-already-cheaper-than-gas-17924/
P1
It is perfectly reasonable to expect current growth rates in solar pv to persist for another 3-4 years. At this rate Finkels 350% increase in rooftop solar will be met in early 2021 – not 2036.
Do the fucking sums. Do you understand spreadsheets?
Shorten is plenty bolshy enough.
… And Bill’s been at it longer than Jezza.
Maybe he does just need to grow a beard then? 🙂
But in all seriousness folks, there are similarities between the way Corbyn operates and the way Bill operates as well.
Going around the legacy media and holding listening posts and rallies certainly sharpens the mind when it comes to formulating policy that will appeal to, and answer the needs of, the electorate.
It’s not rocket science but the high-minded Tories, like they have always done, think THEY know what’s best for US.
Trump also has this side of the equation sussed. What he doesn’t, or what those around him who are The Donald Whisperers, don’t understand is that, to be truly successful politically, you not only have to appeal to peoples’ needs and wants, but actually act upon them when you get your hands on the golden ring of power.
A fault the babbling Abbott found to be his Achilles heel as well. That is, you have got to walk the walk as leader of the nation once you get there from Opposition after having talked the talk.
Basically, people are starting to sort the political wheat from the chaff as far as that goes now.
Re P1 and others earlier, regarding Finkel’s report and no mention of what level of emissions constitute ‘low emission’ or clean energy.
As you say figures like 700kg of CO2 per Mwh bave been mentioned but no figures are in the report.
I saw an interview with Finkel yesterday that he sees his role as suggesting a mechanism and it is a government policy decision where to set the benchmark.
If I recall, he will be providing modeling of different levels and leave it to Harbourside ( or his backbench, or the Nats) to decide the level.
I see Shorten accepting the report in principle but only supporting the government if the benchmark is acceptable, or perhaps it ratchets down over time.
trog sorrenson @ #1063 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 8:17 pm
It is not me you are arguing with. It is Finkel.
P1
You are the one quoting Finkel as an authority – I am the one questioning them. If you disagree explain why –
P1
You are the one quoting Finkel as an authority – I am the one questioning them. If you disagree explain why.
Corbyn did ok, but he would have romped it in with Lord Bucketheads manifesto:
MY 2017 MANIFESTO: Strong, not entirely stable, leadership
1. The abolition of the Lords (except me).
2. Full facial coverings to be kept legal, especially bucket-related headgear.
3. No third runway to be built at Heathrow: where we’re going we don’t need runways.
4. Ceefax to be brought back immediately, with The Oracle and other Teletext services to be rolled out by the next Parliament.
5. Regeneration of Nicholson’s Shopping Centre, Maidenhead.
6. Buckethead on Brexit: a referendum should be held about whether there should be a second referendum.
7. Nuclear weapons: A firm public commitment to build the £100bn renewal of the Trident weapons system, followed by an equally firm private commitment not to build it. They’re secret submarines, no one will ever know. It’s a win win.
8. Nationalisation of Adele: in order to maximise the efficient use of UK resources, the time is right for great British assets to be brought into public ownership for the common good. This is to be achieved through capital spending.
9. A moratorium until 2022 on whether Birmingham should be converted into a star base.
10. Legalisation of the hunting of fox-hunters.
11. New voting age limit of 16 to be introduced. New voting age limit of 80 to be introduced too.
12. Katie Hopkins to be banished to the Phantom Zone.
13. Stop selling arms to Saudi Arabia. Start buying lasers from Lord Buckethead.
14. Prospective MPs to live in the seat they wish to represent for at least five years before election, to improve local representation in Parliament.
15. Free bikes for everyone, to help combat obesity, traffic congestion and bike theft.
P1
You are the one quoting Finkel as an authority – I am the one questioning them. If you disagree, explain why.
From today’s Crikey. More despairing than anything else.
player one @ #1003 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 6:14 pm
You really should have known better than to have been surprised.
In the months leading up the L/NP have declared that they would not accept any sort of carbon price or an ETS, they’ve recently stated they want to subsidise carbon capture and storage, they’re supporting the Adani coal mine, several members have celebrated the US pulling out of the Paris Agreement and yet more have threatened war should Brian Trumble even consider taking action to reduce emissions. How did you not see something like this coming?
Confessions
As awful as the man is the main problem is that the “Russiagate” hysteria is based on sfa. As someone commented about Comey’s expected “smorgasbord” it turned out to be a “Nothingburger”
Booleanbach
“I heard some commentators say that Sinn Fein do not vote in the UK parliament, even though they (now) hold 7 seats. ”
Sinn Fein refuge to swear allegiance to the Queen. Good on ’em. So they can’t sit in the Parliament.
refuge = refuse. oops
rex douglas @ #1032 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 7:20 pm
Having worked at an airport, and several seaports, let me assure you that security at these facilities is a bad joke. You’ll only really have a problem with air/sea port security if you’re near the admin building (sea) or going through passenger screening in the main airport hanger.
poroti:
I’m not of the view that the Russia stuff amounts to nothing. If they tampered in the US election (or any country’s election ftm) that’s a big deal. If the Trump campaign colluded with Russia during the campaign that’s a big deal, arguably a bigger deal.
You know how Abbott has a new statue. Did not take people long to vent.
https://t.co/z1sqd2ukYt
GG:
Are they onions?
Confessions
It sure would be but the more you look in to the claims the more you see how they are based on mist rather than solid evidence. I am very sceptical about the claims because the language and so much about the whole thing is exactly the same as the stuff I saw RW sites pumping out about Clinton. One outrageous claim after another declaring “Boom ” it is all over for Clinton before not to long after when that claim does not eventuate another “Boom it is all over for
Clinton.” claim
confessions @ #1079 Friday, June 9th, 2017 – 9:08 pm
Looks like it to me!
Confessions – definitely an onion wreath.
confessions @ #1077 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 9:02 pm
You must be seriously outraged at the long history of the US meddling in the politics and government of other countries.
BuzzFeed has been pursuing the anti one nation RoboCall story and has a recording of it
https://twitter.com/BuzzFeedOzPol/status/873132588919017473
Fess
I caught up with Comeys testimony and it is best summed up by report from John Schindler who remember is a Republican.
I will post it
Fess
http://observer.com/2017/06/james-comey-hearing-takeaways/amp/
Except that the Clinton email ‘scandal’ never had every US intelligence agency and Congress investigating it.
Cute fact from the Mayexit
https://twitter.com/FrankThomas27/status/872971706276753408
Thanks Vic! Will have a read.
What’s your take on all this btw? Haven’t seen you around lately.
Poroti,
As awful as the man is the main problem is that the “Russiagate” hysteria is based on sfa. As someone commented about Comey’s expected “smorgasbord” it turned out to be a “Nothingburger”
I guess it depends on what sites you visit.
Nevertheless, it also depends on whether you believe the sworn testimony of the man who said today that, yes, he believed the Russians hacked the DNC database; yes, he believed the Russians hacked into the Voter database in some States of the USA; and, yes, he believes that the Russians used the information they obtained to enable the election of their favoured candidate.
Plus, he said that Trump lies to favour his own position.
If you want to be selective about what he didn’t say, fine, but if you also want to use that as a pretext to indulge your fantasy that everything James Comey said amounted to a “Nothingburger”, then I can only conclude that that’s what you want to believe. Absent any facts to the contrary.
trog sorrenson @ #1063 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 8:17 pm
I think we’ve got plenty of huge growth to go in solar yet. Perovskite based cells are well under development and will open up roof space that currently can’t economically be used due to not being able to support the weight of traditional silicone PV.
john reidy @ #1065 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 8:32 pm
So more concisely, the report is going to get shelved.
No proof!
https://twitter.com/RepAdamSchiff
greensborough growler @ #1093 Friday, June 9, 2017 at 9:38 pm
I believe the term for “Republicans” like Senator Schiff is RINO.
Fess
I have been around. Just trying to multi task.
So much is going on. Hard to keep up with it all.
We live in interesting times
Frydenberg is on Lateline lying as he usually does.
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Summary of what state premiers told @TurnbullMalcolm today about his school funding cuts: get stuffed.
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Adam Schiff is a democrat
**I believe the term for “Republicans” like Senator Schiff is RINO.**
I see 2 problems there.