The Coalition had relatively good numbers this week from Essential Research, but unchanged ones from Newspoll. The first of these is cancelled out by the fading impact of the Coalition’s improved result from the post-budget poll from Ipsos, so BludgerTrack once again goes nowhere this week. Newspoll’s leadership numbers have the net approval trends improving for Malcolm Turnbull but deteriorating for Bill Shorten, but the opposite is true on preferred prime minister, so take your pick really.

victoria Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 10:28 am
PhoenixRed
Yep. And the NSA boss Mike Rogers is due to front up to senate committee in next few days
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NSA Director Mike Rogers poised to ‘drop a bomb’ on Trump admin during Wednesday testimony: MSNBC
“While a lot of people have focused on James Comey and that’s obviously a huge anchor in this,” Clemons said at the end of the segment, “watch the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings on Wednesday. National Security Agency Director Mike Rogers may have a bomb to drop in this, as well as Dan Coates. I have been tipped off that Mike Rogers has a story to tell as well that goes right along the lines that our friend David Corn has shared.”
http://www.rawstory.com/2017/06/nsa-director-mike-rogers-poised-to-drop-a-bomb-on-trump-admin-during-wednesday-testimony-msnbc/
Adrian – For some it’s all about debating skills rather than the subject itself.
Turnbull is a Trump-like grub. Turnbull, May and Trump are one of a kind.
ctar1 @ #1302 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 10:45 am
Not for me. For me it is mainly about the amount of misinformation that gets posted here.
Let’s all hope that after the Finkel report is released on Friday, some of the more ‘excitable’ posters calm down a bit. Yes, I realize this is probably a vain hope … : )
Sohar – Alan Bond with a grammar school accent.
PhoenixRed
Schindler wrote an article last week on Mike Rogers wtte that he had told staff that Trump colluded with the Ruskies. Although Schindler not too confident he will say much at hearing
John Schindler @20committee
Replying to @bonitarosekemp
Just pointing out that people who want to present Rogers as The Great White Hope in #KremlinGate may be disappointed.
I can’t wait to see Player One disagree with Finkel if Finkel disagrees with Player One. 🙂
What sort of idiot wants to privatise air traffic control? Oh… http://time.com/4805726/donald-trump-air-traffic-privatization-document-signing/
victoria Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 10:58 am
PhoenixRed
Schindler wrote an article last week on Mike Rogers wtte that he had told staff that Trump colluded with the Ruskies. Although Schindler not too confident he will say much at hearing
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The leaked NSA document may have been part of the “bomb” that Mike Rogers was going to bring up at his hearing Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday
Leaked NSA Report Suggests Russian Hacking Could Have Affected Election Day Itself
If nothing else, the leaked NSA report will amp up media interest in NSA director Mike Rogers’ appearance before the Senate Intelligence Committee on Wednesday, the day before former FBI director James Comey’s much-discussed testimony to the same committee. There has already been speculation that Rogers will drop a bombshell; the leaked report could be a preview, though it should be noted an NSA contractor — with unlikely name of Reality Leigh Winner — has already been arrested for what could well be a leak to The Intercept.
http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/leaked-nsa-report-suggests-russia-could-have-hacked-election.html
There’s more smoke than fire in the report, which mainly establishes that the Russians were making an effort to gain access to voter registration database information—though that’s a big deal given the impact of voter registration information on access to the ballot. But it also opened up the possibility the hackers got access to vote-counting machinery as well, particularly in states with electronic voting machines (which happen to include Pennsylvania and Wisconsin, two of the three states that decided the presidential election).
c@tmomma @ #1307 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 11:03 am
player one @ #1311 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 11:15 am
Well, I guess there is no guarantee he will get it right : )
Bugger!
ALP, what on earth are you doing?
fess,
As a Christian, he might be taking the ‘Stewardship of God’s gift of the Earth, to humans ‘ seriously. Or ‘Thou shall not Kill’ half the population of the planet. Or Don’t be an arsehole.
I would like to see added resources in gun control. Anyone distributing a gun (by whatever means) unlawfully which is used in a crime is charged with accessory to that crime with a deeming presumption as to culpability.
Queensland is a basket case. Even Labor is Liberal.
puff, the magic dragon. @ #1316 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 11:21 am
Agreed. Also, I reckon we might see some electoral backlash on this at the Federal level.
History shows us that the Hammock dweller made his name in the “Dollar Sweets case” and on the back of that into the liberal party and then did not have the B***s to oust the Lying Rodent, Teflon man had his “Spy Catcher case” moment and did have the B***s to stab his leader in the back but was pushed to do so. Question now is which legal case is going on that will see the rise of the next aspirant Liberal leader anyone ??.
Player One @ #1313 Tuesday, June 6th, 2017 – 11:20 am
Panicking over one bad opinion poll?
Adani’s CEO will announce today its controversial central Queensland coal mine has been given the go ahead, the state’s Premier Annastacia Palaszczuk says.
Ms Palaszczuk is in Townsville for the announcement and will sign contracts with Queensland businesses later today.
“I’m very pleased to say Adani will be announcing the green light for their project,” she said.
This is fucking disgraceful. So many people had so many opportunities to stop this idiocy.
Ms Palaszczuk. It is not too late. Step in now and end this. Adani will shift the profits to the Caymans, shut down the mine before the royalties become due, and leave the taxpayer to remediate the site. When this happens, people will blame you, and you alone.
Player One
I thought the story is that the MSM is reporting wrongly. Now I’m as confused as Anna must be.
VE
Exactly.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-06-06/nick-xenophon-to-run-candidates-against-three-independent-sa-mps/8592162
$88oK would certainly help any depression i might have…..
“It’s time to bust the myth: Most Trump voters were not working class.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2017/06/05/its-time-to-bust-the-myth-most-trump-voters-were-not-working-class/?utm_term=.7ed6fba8304f
Goodbye little finch. Coal is so good for you.
https://theconversation.com/queensland-coal-mines-will-push-threatened-finch-closer-to-extinction-55646
https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/06/medical-experts-say-lending-to-adani-is-the-same-as-supporting-big-tobacco
lizzie @ #1321 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 11:31 am
The only hope left are the reports that Adani is in deep financial trouble but is still pursuing this because they desperately need to turn the mine into a salable asset. They will hopefully be unable to find a buyer, and the whole project will then collapse in due course.
But this is a very dangerous course!
May seems to be having some trouble giving a straight answer: https://twitter.com/MichaelPDeacon/status/871751697328205825/photo/1
I’ve heard that the lobbying outfit that employs ex-Liberal MPs after they leave parliament is called, ‘Liars For Hire’. 🙂
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/planning-minister-richard-wynne-rejected-planners-input-on-175b-crown-tower-20170605-gwkfdz.html
Also, I now have less faith in what Finkel is going to recommend on Friday. I now suspect it might simply be ‘full steam ahead’ (or perhaps ‘full smoke ahead’) for Clean Coal here in Australia, because very little (if any) of the Adani coal is ever going to go to India.
Depressing : (
6 June: http://www.essentialvision.com.au/category/essentialreport
Includes questions on Reef versus Coal.
From the latest ER:
To be honest, they’re probably correct. The northern parts of the reef seemed doomed at current temperatures. Given the warming that’s already locked in, I doubt much of the reef will survive regardless of what happens with the mine.
Good morning all,
Bill Shorten and labor would be wasting their time arguing against the Adani mine progressing. They are not in government and have no power at all to stop the mine. It would a fight that may allow some to sleep better but it would be a waste of energy. All they could do is throw their arms around and jump up and down in a tantrum that would result in nothing. Pick your battles.
Where Shorten and labor can fight is the issue of the $1 billion loan for the rail link. That is a issue that they could prosecute and one which will gain traction both in Queensland and across the country. Shorten has placed labor well on this issue and it is a issue that draws a strong line between federal labor and the coalition. Pick your battles and prosecute those that have a chance of being won.
Cheers.
Peg
Qld-ers are a separate breed. Must be the heat.
Re: Adani, what I can’t understand is that there are coal mines in Australia with required infrastructure that are on care & maintenance and others operating at considerably less than their capacity. There are mines elsewhere in the world in the same position.
Ignoring the environmental position, it makes absolutely no sense to me that anybody would take the financial risks of a mine in a location which is completely greenfields – no other mines, no transport infrastructure and not even a port. It’s not a rational risk.
Someone(s), somewhere, are getting a massive payoff.
I used to Arabian horse shows.
The classic Arabian horse has a gait between a normal trot and a canter, called a ‘floating trot’. It’s a beautiful thing to watch, and it used to be basically a standard feature of the breed.
Breeding directions changed in the late seventies. The ‘new look’ Arabians looked so beautiful standing still that those observing them wanted them to be the complete package.
The ‘new look’ Arabians couldn’t ‘do’ the floating trot. But no one wanted to believe that.
So I’ve sat at countless shows where the audience has been watching a horse being trotted out, waiting breathlessly for the moment when it would go from a normal trot into the floating one, only to have the horse break into a canter.
“If only he hadn’t broken gait,” audience members would sigh. “We would have seen his floating trot!”
So great was the mass delusion that it took me years to realise that the reason we weren’t seeing horses doing a floating trot was because they simply weren’t capable of it…but no one wanted to admit it.
Some commentary here reminds me of that.
1 point party the LNP party!
PhoenixRed
What a name indeed! You couldn’t make this stuff up!
There are so many moving parts to this imbroglio. I am having trouble keeping up
Doyley –
Labor are in government in Queensland.
Queensland Labor will be directly responsible if the Adani mine goes ahead, and they certainly have the power to stop it.
Nothing about the Adani mine makes any sense. There’s either some massive corruption at the centre of it or it is all some ghastly commercial/political theatre.
Just to balance out the Anti Palaczjsuk Government propaganda, I re-post this:
And reiterate the fact that, if the LNP government were in power in Queensland now, none of this would happen.
Had an interesting morning try to sort out problems created by bureaucracies.
Firstly, the whole Centrelink putting me on a pension thing.
When I was waiting for a hip replacement, I pointed out to Centrelink that there was little point me looking for work, as even if I got an interview, hobbling in on a cane and saying that I was facing a major operation sometime in the near future would make the whole process fairly worthless.
I got a letter from my doctor, a cursory phone call from Centrelink, and (although I was kept on Newstart) not required to look for work, with the situation to be reviewed.
In the meantime, my husband got work, and so I wasn’t eligible for Newstart payments, so the review never happened.
Which apparently means that Centrelink thinks I’m still disabled.
When I think about the stories you read (and I have no reason to doubt them) of people having to prove that the disability they were born with hasn’t gone away, this is pretty gobsmacking.
Secondly, I received an email saying that I’m finally eligible to teach in NSW, but I have to do an on line unit first. No problems, happy to.
Sat down to do it last night. None of the links provided worked. Rang NSW DET. Apparently I’m not on the system, despite the email. Had to then ring someone else, to get me put on the system. Still waiting for a response.
In both cases, I have followed every rule and instruction given to me faithfully and honestly.
Goodness knows how many hours are wasted because of situations such as these.
Jackol,
I live in Queensland and the decision to support the Adani mine and the rail link loan is one for the government of Queensland to make. Yes, it is a labor government and the labor government will wear the consequences good or bad. There is absolutely nothing Bill Shorten and federal labor can do to stop the process re the mine actually going ahead.
Shorten is the opposition leader not the PM and federal labor is not in government so at a federal level he has absolutely no control over the process at all.
Where Shorten and labor can fight with some purpose is opposing the $1 billion loan. That is a fight that Shorten and labor should take on and prosecute strongly. They will do that and Shorten had already laid the ground work for that fight.
We need to acknowledge that state and federal labor are two different beasts in this battle. The state labor government has made its decision and Shorten has decided that federal labor will take a different course on the loan given it has no control over the mine approval process. The loan battle is one which federal labor may well be able to win at the federal level.
Cheers.
BTW,
We all need to remember that Mr. Adani is as cunning as a rat. Announcing that the mine will go ahead is a lot different to actually digging the first earthworks. No finance has yet been approved and this announcement could well be a play for the $1 billion loan as well as a play to bankers and financiers who may still be hesitant to invest.
The mine may well actually start but at the moment it is still all theatre from Adani.
Cheers.
Aha! It is my lack of Internet Explorer (because my nephew, who programmed my new computer, hates it) which is causing me problems with the NSW Department…
B.C.
FMD.
But Trezza avoids everything else so more same, same.
zoomster @ #1345 Tuesday, June 6, 2017 at 12:19 pm
I think your only mistake is to assume that these hurdles are ‘accidental’.