The Essential Research fortnight rolling average maintains its recent habit of shifting between 53-47 and 54-46, the latest instalment going from the latter to the former. On the primary vote, the Coalition is up a point to 37% and Labor is down one to 36%, with the Greens and One Nation steady at 10% and 8%, so that the result is in all respects identical to the week before last. The poll also finds 40% think Tony Abbott should resign from parliament, 17% that he should stay on the back bench, and another 17% that he should be given a position in the ministry. This is worse for him than when the same questions were posed in August last year, when the respective results were 37%, 21% and 25%. Other findings relate to the tightening of 457 visas: 16% said they went too far, 28% not far enough, and 39% that they were about right; 59% approved of allowing visa holders to apply for permanent residency, against 23% disapprove; 78% agreed that those applying for permanent residency should first be put on a probationary visa, against only 10% for disagree.
The Australian also had extra questions from Newspoll, which found that 70% favoured the government prioritising spending cuts over 20% for increasing taxes, but that only 30% favoured cuts to welfare payments with 61% opposed.
In fact Adani is facing multiple investigations in India.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2016-12-22/adani-companies-facing-multiple-corruption-probes/8140100
Socrates
So a “Dollar Sweetie” creation then. Dollar Sweetie also a founding member of the HR Nicholls Society so I think we know the ideology which would have been hard baked into the PC.
trog sorrenson @ #457 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 12:25 pm
You should try actually reading reports before you post them. Also, you should not rely on RenewEconomy for facts – they are a partisan site that routinely distorts and misleads for their own commercial purposes.
If you can’t interpret the graphs in the report correctly (as it appears you cannot) then here it is in plain english on page 26 in the section on “Carbon Abatement”
Also, have a careful look at the following figure (figure 10), which shows a substantial increase in gas generation by 2030 under all the scenarios considered by the report.
Your apology for your gratuitous insults will then be graciously accepted.
Poroti
Yes, that is the one. Understanding its background, you can see why the PC hired people like Canavan.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/28/malcolm-turnbull-tries-to-reassure-new-zealand-over-citizenship-fears?CMP=soc_568
Communications within the Turnbull government are hopeless. And who stuffed up the messages with NZ?
Sometimes cartoons sum up the news best. Have a good weekend all.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/apr/28/fire-up-the-outrageomatic-and-make-sure-theres-extra-sanctimonium-in-the-tanks
Good afternoon all,
Considering the vigour with which Bill Shorten prosecuted the case for no government money for Adani I am very comfortable in saying there is more to come on this front.
Cheers.
GG
bemused’s refusal to specify who he is talking about is causing confusion. PBers are slightly paranoid, so they tend to assume that unspecified slurs are intended for them personally.
Of course bemused should show a little more courage and ‘name names’. From what I can work out, however, this is actually impossible, because – despite the wording of his posts – they’re not actually addressed to anyone here at all.
I have come to this conclusion after several attempts to get him to clarify exactly who he is talking about or to, but he doesn’t seem to really know himself.
In the meantime, I provide a public service to PBers here by assuring them that he isn’t referring to them.
I think Westpac’s decision makes it almost impossible for the Federal Government to stump up the requested $1B. They would make themselves an absolute laughing stock. Canavan knows it too – that’s why he’s gone so over the top about it.
If they DO come up with the money, Shorten and Labor will drive a Mack truck right over them.
DG – Hadrian was Spanish.
zoomster @ #509 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:26 pm
And, more power to your community spirited arm.
However, as Mahatma Gandhi once said, “Ignoring and not engaging trolls is the best defence”.
Another thought. Westpac’s decision was couched in the form of not lending for any coal mining of coal that is below a very high standard of purity (which apparently the Galilee basin doesn’t meet). That gives the Queensland Government a possible way out from under its support for the project. Anyone would think that Shorten, Queensland Labor and Westpac got together on the substance and timing.
Provocative thought – perhaps they did! ! wouldn’t be surprised if business is starting to factor in working with a Shorten government and relationship-building is going on behind closed doors.
ajm @ #510 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:28 pm
I reckon that this is all about he Government funding infrastructure to assist the interests of Rhinehart in the end.
ajm @ #513 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:35 pm
There’s also the owners of the Port of Newcastle frothing over sovereign risk.
GG
I’m sure Rhinehart’s interests are in the equation but they need cover to do that and if Adani can’t provide it, the Rhinehart will just have to miss out.
zoomster @ #509 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 2:26 pm
Clearly you are aspiring for inclusion in my mental list.
JTI has a look over Truffles’ “values” effort.
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/blogs/jack-the-insider-australian-values-a-users-guide/news-story/1f4c9cde1a674d56d5141f2c1799158c
ajm @ #516 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:39 pm
She won’t be pleased then because once this gets to Parliament, then very close scrutiny of the deal will join the dots of who actually gains from the deal and who actually loses.
poroti @ #517 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:40 pm
If you have to explain a joke to someone, they still won’t get it!
GG
Thought it was Abraham Lincoln.
bemused
‘Clearly you are aspiring for inclusion in my mental list.’
Ouch! Rush me to the burns unit!!
Everyone wants to be on the bouncers door list.
zoomster @ #520 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 2:49 pm
OK!
zoomster
You might be interested in this Wikipedia definition of a troll. (Actually, they take a number of forms, but I think this one fits the bill on PB).
Anyone here familiar with the writings/opinions of Thomas Frank? Thoughts?
socrates @ #501 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 1:56 pm
It seems like attracts like.
The Coalition seems to be in free fall.
Today we have Canavan telling Qld’ers that they should boycott Westpac because they won’t lend money to Adani (I assume the other banks have declined earlier).
Yesterday we had Turnbull looking panicky while making the latest of his big announcements, only to find like all his big announcements, they are exposed as meaning nothing in less than 24 hours. Pathetic ‘Kick Me’ Frydenberg out this morning to say ‘Mal didn’t really mean to say that’.
And then there’s Dutton who before his latest imbroglio on refugees has spent about a month critising big business because they are making their views known on carbon emissions trading, SSM and lots of other subjects. They clearly have the view that this government doesn’t have a clue where they’re heading.
And then there’s Abbott …
Re Socrates @1:54PM: It is beyond satire. What is the coalition motive for dealing with Adani? This is bordering on Royal Commission territory.
I’d say the border’s been crossed and it’s disappearing in the rear view mirror. The whole relationship between the Coal-ition Government and Coal needs looking into, including the War on Renewables. Maybe it could be included in the terms of reference of a Royal Commission into future energy needs and climate change called by an incoming Labor Government.
CTar1 @ #528 Friday, April 28th, 2017 – 3:01 pm
I’m hoping for the Headline for this debacle after Matt is sacked.
“The dogs may bark, but the Canavan moves on!”
Since zoomster is floundering around for something worthwhile to say, perhaps she can comment on this:
Has BK assured the puff adder he stands ready to provide character evidence?
GG – Like it!
GG
Classic
“The dogs may bark, but the Canavan moves on!”
Simon @2:57PM: I am not familiar with him but just looked him up. He’s apparently following the common path from young ‘liberal’ to old conservative in reverse. He said things like “Bad government is the natural product of rule by those who believe government is bad”.
Katharine Murphy has finally let her anger off the leash in regards to sexism in politics.
Good read.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/28/if-good-women-conform-and-gillard-was-a-witch-then-im-ready-for-a-fight
To be fair to Mirabella, I think they’re both right.
What I think happened is that both women moved towards the visiting dignitary at the same time, and that Mirabella (who admitted after the QandA incident that her vision isn’t the finest) was so single mindedly focussed on the Minister that she brushed McGowan out of the way without realising it.
So McGowan was pushed, but it wasn’t intentional.
*I have re enacted this scenario a couple of times for people, using them as props. (I need a life…)
** I came up with this scenario because I’ve done it myself a couple of times, with the difference that I realised what had happened almost immediately. Mirabella is more single-minded than I am.
The dogs may bark, but the Canavan moves on! Or maybe it’s the otherway round.
zoomster @ #536 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 3:12 pm
So it happened but was unintentional.
Sophie may find it hard going to argue it didn’t happen.
bemused @ #531 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 3:04 pm
BK is anxiously awaiting the phone call – anxious in many ways!
An interesting contribution from Latika.
Steve777
I have come across several of his articles and always found them interesting. I was wondering if his books are good enough to maintain my interest. Especially the one about Kansas.
I was also wondering if he is related to Andre Gunder Frank who I have read a lot while at uni… but I am pretty sure they are not related.
At 3pm AEST the AFP will hold a presser on what is believed to be a metadata breach.
Hmm.
**the centre-right was winning the economic debate until the global financial crisis (GFC)**
And growing inequality, and huge voter disenchantment with politics, and the crumbling of the 4th estate….
So to reword Roskam; The centre right was winning the economic debate… until it lost.
Ctar1
“DG – Hadrian was Spanish.”
Yes Hadrian came from an Italian family that settled in Roman Spain, and made a fortune.
However, it’s not known exactly where Hadrian was born – might have been Spain or Italy. But he was certainly raised in Spain – and (to Italian ears) developed a ‘rustic’ Italo-Spanish accent, like his predecessor Trajan.
Interesting to have one of the CPG explain why she couldn’t see what many of us could.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/28/if-good-women-conform-and-gillard-was-a-witch-then-im-ready-for-a-fight
Seems like the absolutely vile blatant plus coded crap directed at a female conservative politician has finally jolted Katharine Murphy into realising what the male power elite really think, as distinct from their political dissembling.
ctar1 @ #528 Friday, April 28, 2017 at 3:01 pm
…………………………..
Yep.
Scrott’s BS didn’t last until the weekend.
The ‘Good Debt’ v ‘Bad Debt’ thingy is already getting yellow and/or red cards – plus a lecture on how debt is assessed and rated.
Embarrassing –
Read more: http://www.afr.com/news/policy/budget/moodys-and-sp-caution-treasurer-scott-morrison-on-debt-20170428-gvuhko#
lizzie, yes a good article by Murphy. Thanks Barney for posting.
So to reword Roskam; The centre right was winning the economic debate… until it lost.
So to reword the reworded Roskam: The lunar right was getting away with bullshit until reality smacked everyone upside the head.
lizzie, yes a good article by Murphy.
Read more as a bunch of excuses and justifications to me.
Oh I didn’t believe the gross sexism at the heart of the attacks on Gillard was real because it was so all pervasive and vile.
Perceptive much? Useful skill for a political reporter to have. What will be next?
“Oh I didn’t believe Abbott would be a disaster as PM, his stupidity and dishonesty was just too obvious”