Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor

The latest result from Newspoll lands slightly at the upper end of the government’s recent form.

Courtesy of The Australian, the latest result from Newspoll records Labor with a two-party lead of 52-48, down from 53-47 in the last poll (which was three weeks ago rather than the usual two, owing to Easter). Labor and the Greens are both down a point on the primary vote, to 35% and 9%, with the Coalition and One Nation steady on 36% and 10%. Malcolm Turnbull is up two on approval to 32% and down two on disapproval to 57%, while Bill Shorten is up one to 33% and down one to 53%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister shifts from 41-32 to 42-33.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

1,209 comments on “Newspoll: 52-48 to Labor”

  1. phoenixRED @ #1041 Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 – 3:20 pm

    Thats fast! NBN wireless 11 times faster than fibre

    The National Broadband Network today revealed that its fixed wireless technology has reached 1.1Gbps download speed in a trial that promises improved services for country areas currently battling to match the performance of big cities.

    https://au.finance.yahoo.com/news/nbn-wireless-just-hit-11-145953564.html

    Fast, but also a meaningless comparison without knowing how many concurrent users can be accommodated per base station at those speeds. And also what the performance is like as the signal attenuates due to distance, atmospheric conditions (rain, etc.), occlusion, and so on.

    And it’s a theoretical/lab-test speed that’s being compared to actual, real-world speeds that people can buy today at retail. The lab-test speeds for single-mode fibre (as used in NBN FTTP) currently stand at over 100 Tbps (that’s 100,000,000 Mbps) over a distance of at least 165 km, and the theoretical limit is around 1,000 Tbps.

    Obviously that’s with specialized hardware at both ends of the fibre, but current NBN fibre can support 1 Gbps speeds today (except no ISP will actually sell that speed, due to how NBNCo runs their CVC pricing) and should be able to support 10 Gbps without any hardware changes whatsoever.

    To the extent that the article wants to declare that wireless is (or can be) faster than fibre, it’s full of holes and basically talking nonsense.

  2. Al Pal
    Good on you Keating is my favorite politician by miles just love him and he left school at Bankstown after the itermediate he has style.

  3. Abdul-Magied’s tweet:

    Every day of the year, including ANZAC Day, she’s quite entitled to comment on the Middle East, Manus and Nauru.

    But linking that to ANZAC commemorations on ANZAC Day is deliberately provocative.

  4. One Nation’s federal leader, Pauline Hanson, has previously openly canvassed joining forces with Bernardi, telling 2GB in December that “if Cory wants to take over {One Nation} so be it but at the end of the day it has got to be on the issues that I want to fight for the people”.

    A spokesman for Hanson told Guardian Australia that Bernardi’s invitation “{did not} apply to One Nation because it’s not a minor party”.

    Asked if One Nation was still open to joining Australian Conservatives, the spokesman said “it’s a no”.

    Pauline now thinks she is the head of a major Party.

    https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/apr/26/one-nation-rebuffs-cory-bernardis-invitation-to-join-australian-conservatives-party?CMP=share_btn_tw

  5. lizzie @ #1044 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:25 pm

    From the link by Bemused:

    His background has helped him navigate the local culture, which has some of the social complexities of China such as saving face and the need sometimes to skirt issues gently rather than approach them head-on.

    I have worried about this for some time. Aussies often take pride in being ‘frank and outspoken, but… What if Barnaby was given more authority? Or Derryn Hinch? Or any of the RWNJs currently posting their aggressive rubbish on Twitter?

    Did you just read my extracts or the whole article?
    I thought it was fascinating and contained quite a number of important lessons.
    When I was in the RAAF it was very monocultural and men only. Women were in a separate entity, the WRAAF.
    At some functions I attended over the years I saw the introduction of women in all sorts of roles in the RAAF such as Engineering Officers and even Drivers, Airframe. But still largely monocultural.
    I commented yesterday about noticing an Asian female RAAF Officer Cadet and an Asian Naval Officer, the latter having a prominent part in the ceremony at the War Memorial.
    These are welcome changes to the service I knew.

  6. yabba88 @ #1047 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    bemused: re your #935
    What was exposed last night was your narcissistic personality disorder, and your incapability of understanding when you had been gratuitously and deliberately offensive to another contributor to this blog. Your absolute certainty of the correctness of a seriously stupid assertion of yours, when you were patently just plain WRONG, was also amusing to those of us with functioning, socially adept personalities.
    You have an absolutely staggering lack of self awareness. You are plainly too far gone, and too thick, to do anything about your disorder, so the rest of us will just observe, and make up our own minds on whether to ignore you, or laugh at you. I choose the latter.

    Good grief! I readily admitted last night I had been wrong.
    Get over it man. Get help if you need it.

  7. abba88
    Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35 pm
    bemused: re your #935
    What was exposed last night was your narcissistic personality disorder, and your incapability of understanding when you had been gratuitously and deliberately offensive to another contributor to this blog.

    Without wanting to buy into the argument on either side, isn’t it one of the unwritten rules on this site that we don’t attribute mental illness to other bloggers? If it isn’t, it should be.

  8. ctar1 @ #1042 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    PhoenixRED
    Thid bit of the article sounds dodgy:

    The 1,100 megabit per second, compares with the often-criticised speeds of 25 megabits per second download or slower if many users are active, available on the Fibre to the Premises (FTTP) or to the Node (FTTN).

    Just remembered. I think this is the article I read which explains that poor FTTP performance. https://www.themonthly.com.au/issue/2017/april/1490965200/paddy-manning/network-error
    It is not inherent in the technology.

  9. darn @ #1058 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    abba88
    Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:35 pm
    bemused: re your #935
    What was exposed last night was your narcissistic personality disorder, and your incapability of understanding when you had been gratuitously and deliberately offensive to another contributor to this blog.

    Without wanting to buy into the argument on either side, isn’t it one of the unwritten rules on this site that we don’t attribute mental illness to other bloggers? If it isn’t, it should be.

    I am not a precious little petal and can shrug off all Yabba can throw at me. After all, I cope with GG.
    It is rather curious though in the light of his own behaviour.

  10. Check out this photo of failed One Nation candidate Mark Ellis giving a Nazi salute to a swastika mowed into his lawn, which proves beyond all reasonable doubt what a complete nong he is:

    https://twitter.com/JoshButler/status/857095139281571841/photo/1

    Notice anything funny about it?

    He is giving the nazi salute with his (wait for it)…..

    ……………. left hand. That’s right, his left hand. What a fvcking d!ckhead.

    (Insert a million ROFLMAO emojis here)

  11. Was there this much outrage 2 years ago when this piece was published http://theaimn.com/lest-we-forget-weve-forgotten-too-much-already/
    or it just because Yassmin Abdel-Magied is Islamic & from the ABC?
    Why are Australian’s supposed to shut down their brains on ANZAC day. Can’t we combine remembering the horrors of the past and acknowledging current horrors our country is part of. How can the tweet be possibly be seen as insulting to anybody?

  12. Opticomm a private provider of fibre services won the right to provide a cable to the basement of a block of flats where a relative of mine lives. They have no competition. When my relative wished to get a RSP to provide the data, only one company (IiNet) was available to choose from. When my relative asked Opticomm why wasn’t Telstra or Optus were not offering their services, he was told that was up to Telstra and Optus. Reading between the lines, the wholesale price for these companies was so high they refused to deal with Opticomm. Which makes me wonder why IINet still did. Is there a connection between the companies and they have a very cosy monopoly of providing the infrastructure and the day exclusively?

  13. Apologies if posted earlier.

    Those who stand politically on the far right often complain that those on the left are too precious and too quick to outrage. But strangely enough no one does outrage quite like them.
    It’s the very people who have spent the past few years complaining the loudest about the lack of free speech in Australia and the restrictive, almost-Stalinist nature of Section 18C who seem so traumatised that Abdel-Magied is exercising her democratic right to free speech.


    It’s now clear that the whole campaign on the conservative side of Australian media and politics against Section 18C and for absolute freedom of speech has been a sham.

    They only believe in freedom of speech if you agree with them and their narrow view of the world. They don’t want freedom of speech, they believe in freedom from speech – from Yassmin Abdel-Magied or anyone else daring to oppose their view on Anzac Day or Australia’s shameful treatment of refugees or anything else.

    To paraphrase George Brandis, the ability to bravely say what you think, no matter how unpopular, is exactly why the Anzacs fought at Gallipoli. Accordingly, we should celebrate Abdel-Magied, not attack her.

    http://www.canberratimes.com.au/comment/we-should-celebrate-yassmin-abdelmagied-not-attack-her-20170426-gvsp1k.html

  14. I live at in a small village approximately 200 k to Sydney. No mobile reception at home, fiber at front of my home and I am getting Fttn.
    Communications that cost billions all directed by stupid politics

  15. I live at in a small village approximately 200 k to Sydney. No mobile reception at home, fiber at front of my home and I am getting Fttn.
    Communications that cost billions all directed by stupid politics

  16. ‘Jackol
    Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    Perhaps the O’Dwyer baby comment was some sort of moan that she or her supporters are ‘hiding’ behind the recent birth of her baby to discredit those making a move on her seat.’
    WTF? Are you saying that is why she had the baby?
    Jebus.

  17. kevjohnno @ #1066 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    Was there this much outrage 2 years ago when this piece was published http://theaimn.com/lest-we-forget-weve-forgotten-too-much-already/
    or it just because Yassmin Abdel-Magied is Islamic & from the ABC?
    Why are Australian’s supposed to shut down their brains on ANZAC day. Can’t we combine remembering the horrors of the past and acknowledging current horrors our country is part of. How can the tweet be possibly be seen as insulting to anybody?

    There was as much or more outrage when the SBS guy cut loose a couple of years ago. But in that case, he refused to take down his tweet, which also identified him as an employee of SBS, and he was sacked for his refusal to obey a lawful direction from his employer.

    Ms Abdel-Magied did take down her post, whether under direction from the ABC or not. But there is no doubt that her post was a gift to all those like Abetz and Joyce, who were slobbering at the thought of bagging a high profile Muslim woman for doing something ‘un-Australian’. Which might be why she took it down so quickly.

  18. Whisper, stupid politicians is correct. I am NBN ready, but to switch means I get two thirds of the speed now and have to pay twice as much for it. As far as I am concerned they should have saved the $50,000,000,000 and done nothing. I would have been better of!

    I have to change over in 18 months. I am not looking forward to it! Unhappy emoji!

  19. **Why are Australian’s supposed to shut down their brains on ANZAC day.**
    If you look at the photos from the AFL Anzac Day game you will see footballers running through banners and over slogans with references to Anzac Day…. and Toyota, and Emirates, and Tissot…..
    If we can play commercialised sport on Anzac Day why not discuss human rights issues – especially about people who have fled from or are suffering through war.

  20. simon aussie katich @ #1076 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    **Why are Australian’s supposed to shut down their brains on ANZAC day.**
    If you look at the photos from the AFL Anzac Day game you will see footballers running through banners and over slogans with references to Anzac Day…. and Toyota, and Emirates, and Tissot…..
    If we can play commercialised sport on Anzac Day why not discuss human rights issues – especially about people who have fled from or are suffering through war.

    I am pretty sure my father and his mates did not go off to WWII to fight for the rights of an Australian fascist gang in government to run concentration camps.

  21. “I have to change over in 18 months. I am not looking forward to it! Unhappy emoji!”

    Same here PeeBee. Just had a reminder (threat) from Telstra I would have to decide soon. HFC or nothing.

    How sad is it that the NBN is so stuffed a technophile like myself can almost dread being connected to the shambles Turnbull & Co have made of it. The clever country indeed.

  22. There are well-organized anti-Islamic Digital Storm Troops in Australia. These have been reasonably-well documented.
    They can be mobilized more or less instantly with a single entry on the keyboard.
    The post/tweet/txt patterns when they ARE mobilized are patently obvious.
    If you want to taste the flavour look at the posts in response to ‘The Australian’s’ articles on Maguid yesterday and today.
    There are some dead give aways but I will let you enjoy decoding them.
    Maguid has been for 48 hours the target of a Troll Storm.
    Maguid showed bloody idiot judgement.
    The Troll Storm Troopers’ posts are recognizable for many of the characteristics of fascism that someone posted above.
    Murdoch’s rags have deliberately set out to magnify the Troll Storm.
    Mr Barnaby Joyce, Acting Prime Minister of Australia, is nothing loathe to demonstrate why HE is totally unfit for that honorable occupation.
    He has fueled the Troll Storm.
    The articles by Murdoch’s rags serves the Murdoch political interests in three ways.
    The first is that they love fomenting anti-Islamic fervour for its own sake. They hate multi-culturalism. Their default starting position is contempt for anyone who is not Anglo, white, rich and male.
    The second is that they want desperately to do anything that serves the Government’s culture wars.
    The third is that they are right now desperate to unicorn Dutton’s latest series of very blatant and very public lies about Manus.
    By aiding and abetting all this, Maguid has shown appalling judgement.
    She is totally out of her depth as a political player.

  23. ‘But linking that to ANZAC commemorations on ANZAC Day is deliberately provocative.”

    As far as I’m concerned the RW nutjobs that so infest our media are ‘deliberately provocative’ every day of the week.
    Not that there’s anything inherently wrong wrong with being deliberately provocative, although we are all supposed to be little more than compliant consumers these days.

  24. PeeBee @ #1075 Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 – 4:26 pm

    Whisper, stupid politicians is correct. I am NBN ready, but to switch means I get two thirds of the speed now and have to pay twice as much for it.

    I think the speed you can get on NBN Fibre is actually quite good and essentially exactly as advertised:

    http://www.speedtest.net/result/6248709414

    Thanks, Labor.

    Of course, the story if you ended up with FTTN or HFC “NBN” is probably very different. Vent your frustration by not voting for the people who came up with those ideas. A mostly-fibre NBN was actually a very smart infrastructure and nation-building project. The NBN one side of politics has stuck is with (mainly out of spite) is mostly a shambles.

  25. BW – I’m not saying that at all. In fact I’m not even suggesting that anyone else is saying that. I’m suggesting that the tasteless gypsy comparison may have been driven by the people moving against O’Dwyer being unhappy with the negative reactions from the media (and presumably the public) to making a move against a woman who had so recently given birth.

  26. While I am having a grumble, I have had my house insured with RACV for decades and never made a claim. Recently, some cornice fell down which I believe was due to a very heavy vibrating compactor working next door. The whole house was shaking. Because there was no evidence of an event (water damage, inundation, lightening strike) RACV has refused my claim. The time it took them to deny my claim was 40 days. They have not sent me a letter yet and I had to follow up a number of times and each time left on hold for a lengthy time.

    I would have thought my non claiming record would be worth some leeway. (particularly as my excess is $1,000 and would have covered a lot of the repair).

    Their service was terrible and a million times slower than when they want my premiums.

    I was also disappointed that they could not see that an event such as severe vibration doesn’t leave a mark once it stops (except to weaken the plaster).

    I would not recommend them to anyone.

  27. peebee @ #1067 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    Opticomm a private provider of fibre services won the right to provide a cable to the basement of a block of flats where a relative of mine lives. They have no competition. When my relative wished to get a RSP to provide the data, only one company (IiNet) was available to choose from. When my relative asked Opticomm why wasn’t Telstra or Optus were not offering their services, he was told that was up to Telstra and Optus. Reading between the lines, the wholesale price for these companies was so high they refused to deal with Opticomm. Which makes me wonder why IINet still did. Is there a connection between the companies and they have a very cosy monopoly of providing the infrastructure and the day exclusively?

    This is annoying, and is a bit like the Hillside vs Bayside trains in Melbourne all over again in which the state government did not define specifications and later the state government had to standardise couplings when it brought the two lines together.

    The government should be defining these specifications through NBN such that once a fibre service is put in, consumers can choose from any internet retailer that sells through NBN to go through this infrastructure. Opticomm need not have do negotiate with each retailer.

  28. AR, ‘I think the speed you can get on NBN Fibre is actually quite good and essentially exactly as advertised’

    To you maybe, but not to me. My speed at the moment is 135mbps download. The best I can get with NBNCo is UP TO 100 Mbps.

    Of course it is ‘essentially as advertised’ because 1 Mbps is still covered by the ‘up to’ get-out-of-jail clause!

  29. Player One
    I refer to the various problems with emoji and Windows 7 with Chrome.
    I updated my Windows 7 Ultimate Service Pack 1 machine and installed the latest Chrome 58.
    Many of the problems with posting emoji are related to Musrums CCCP.
    I had to install into Tampermonkey the following
    Emoji Polyfill
    and
    Twitter Emoji for all Sites.
    As well as these I installed extension
    Emoji for Google Chrome.
    About 2 A.M. Don posted information relating to Emoticons which I think solves most of the problems
    http://www.amp-what.com/unicode/search/emoticons
    Open a new tab and go to this emoticon address and then pin the tab.
    You then have access to many, many emoticons.
    Examples are 😢 😋 and so on and on.
    I notice that Lizzie mentioned that her “smile” did not display – this is because of the CCCP problem I believe.
    Please refer any queries or complaints to Brown Bear 🐻

  30. Greensborough Growler
    Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:14 pm
    Aqualung,

    The Donald would just regard Turnbull as one of those Executive odours he never reads.

    Or orders. Same diff

    😃

  31. Keane about Dutton’s Immigration Dept. I can’t post the whole, from Crikey, but the summary ain’t bad (my bold).

    Many of these flaws were found after the department had ostensibly overhauled the 457 visa program in response to a 2014 independent review, which had specifically recommended improved compliance monitoring. All of that was done under the current leadership team of Immigration Minister Peter Dutton and secretary Mike Pezzullo. Last week, the Prime Minister declared that the entire 457 visa program had “lost its credibility”, though Pezzullo and Dutton don’t appear to have accepted any responsibility for this.

    Perhaps most alarmingly, the department had also been failing to properly confirm the identity of people seeking citizenship. In mid-2015, the ANAO reported that more than half of electronically lodged citizenship applications “were processed without the officer sighting or reviewing the supporting identity documentation”. And “at the citizenship test appointment stage, DIBP officers did not follow the key processes for identity verification for 26 per cent of applicants”. Nor did the department actually check to see if proper identity checking procedures had been followed. This was at the same time as the Abbott government had sought to hype the threat posed by asylum seekers and dual citizens. Immigration’s lax processes might have meant criminals or terrorists were waved into Australia without any effort made to check their claimed identity.

    Based on half a dozen ANAO reports, it’s clear that the Department of Immigration cannot perform any of its basic functions properly — including functions critical to the economy and national security. Mysteriously, it seems to remain immune to any form of political accountability.

  32. On my last comment I realised Opticomm might have done this outside of NBN, then I guess the government can’t enforce it. But then there’s the question of apartments not giving residents a choice in fibre internet, and I believe ACCC was looking into it at one point.

  33. I think that the gypsy comparison, like other reflexive racism, just comes naturally to a certain type of bogan authoritarian, of whom many are found in the Liberal Party.

  34. Trog Sorrenson
    #1036 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 3:01 pm
    Bemused
    (blockquotes this time)

    I hate the way many things have been captured by bogans with Australian flags as items of apparel.
    I used to accompany my father and am familiar with the demeanour of him and his surviving comrades at ANZAC day and other events.

    Your comment about “bogans with Australian flags” is spot on.
    My father was a medical orderly on the Kokoda Track and had to cope with some pretty horrific stuff which he did not talk about until late in life. He had no time for the RSL bullshit, and would have been totally appalled by the plight of refugees on Manus.

    My father was in the middle east (British Army) retrieving tanks. So, like your father, the sights that he saw are best left to the imagination. Also, alike your father, he didn’t do Anzac day. It didn’t help that he worked at a local RSL as a barman for a while. He used to say that the majority were using Anzac as an excuse to get drunk, not to show respect for the fallen. He also had little time for many of the peace time ‘chocolate soldiers’.

    Tom.

  35. peebee @ #1084 Wednesday, April 26, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    While I am having a grumble, I have had my house insured with RACV for decades and never made a claim. Recently, some cornice fell down which I believe was due to a very heavy vibrating compactor working next door. The whole house was shaking. Because there was no evidence of an event (water damage, inundation, lightening strike) RACV has refused my claim. The time it took them to deny my claim was 40 days. They have not sent me a letter yet and I had to follow up a number of times and each time left on hold for a lengthy time.
    I would have thought my non claiming record would be worth some leeway. (particularly as my excess is $1,000 and would have covered a lot of the repair).
    Their service was terrible and a million times slower than when they want my premiums.
    I was also disappointed that they could not see that an event such as severe vibration doesn’t leave a mark once it stops (except to weaken the plaster).
    I would not recommend them to anyone.

    Try claiming against the operators of the compactor or whoever engaged them to operate it. They may well have insurance coverage and if not, they may still be liable.

  36. Raaraa –

    The original Labor plan for the NBN, of course, was to ensure such retail competition by having the NBN provide universal wholesale coverage with legislated equality of access for retailers.

    Of course when the LNP got hold of it and were looking to gut the NBN, er cut corners, er cut costs, and were being lobbied by various telecoms companies for them to be allowed to install their own bits of cabling the LNP became all gung ho for competition at the wholesale level – and ignored the implications for competition at the retail level.

    When Labor formulated the NBN plan it did prohibit any private companies from installing their own bits of competing cabling. This was for good reasons – facilitating a competitive even playing field retail market for everyone, along with preventing the cherry-picking that would destroy the implicit city to country subsidy that made the sums add up for equal access at equal pricing for everyone.

    I think the prohibition on private companies installing cabling could have been adjusted to open the wholesale market up to competition while keeping an access obligation on whoever wanted to install their own cabling which would have ensured retail competition (though not dealing with the cherry picking issue), but the Libs were having none of that.

  37. PeeBee @ #1087 Wednesday, April 26th, 2017 – 4:46 pm

    To you maybe, but not to me. My speed at the moment is 135mbps download. The best I can get with NBNCo is UP TO 100 Mbps.

    Uneconomic CVC pricing strikes again. Legitimate issue.

    Of course it is ‘essentially as advertised’ because 1 Mbps is still covered by the ‘up to’ get-out-of-jail clause!

    I’m pretty sure that “up to” was only tacked on when FTTN and HFC were added to the mix. Because then attenuation between the premises and the node becomes a limiting factor.

    This shouldn’t apply if you’ve actually got access to FTTP. You get the full 100 Mbps (or more if/when NBNCo fixes their CVC mess). Or if you don’t it’s because the ISP has themselves underprovisioned on capacity, which is something that can happen with any ISP and any connection type.

  38. Raaraa, ‘Opticomm need not have do negotiate with each retailer.’

    Opticomm would have been laughing all the way to the bank. They didn’t have to negotiate at all, they just had to set the price hurdle high enough until all the RSPs pulled out.

    The wholesale price should have been set by the NBNco. So every RSP could take advantage of the infrastructure and introduce real competition.

    The big earner for Opticomm, is the ‘setup’ fee of $330 every time someone wants to use their service. Being a block of flats with mainly renters, the turnover is quiet high. Opticomm get $330 essential to do nothing (ie set up another account).

    I have a feeling the government caved into to these businesses like Opticomm because they could help out the speed of the roll-out. The Governement did care if the customer didn’t get a competitive service or that NBNco loses a high value site because of the customer density, they just wanted to look good as the roll-out was happening.

  39. Oh cripes, they’re springing up like mushrooms after rain.

    Sir Clyde Of Nob‏ @nobby15 · 12m12 minutes ago

    Possible New Party Being Considered By Ex Phony Members 26 April – 2017 pic.twitter.com/jRH1UBa8dY

    Plans to launch a counter organisation “for the people of Australia”.

  40. Lizzie
    I prefer to think of them as springing up like the warty white blobby things that Zoomster reported from her paddock.
    After all, the field mushrooms that spring up after Autumn rains are delicious, satisfying and nutritious.

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