The weekend edition of The West Australian has results of a ReachTEL poll of federal voting intention in Western Australia, presumably conducted on Thursday night. It shows Labor with a lead of 53-47, which if borne out would amount to a 7.6% swing compared with last year’s election. I’m not sure about a federal poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of a state election, but there it is. More detail to follow.
UPDATE: After exclusion of 3.2% undecided, the primary votes are Liberal 38.7%, Nationals 5.1%, Labor 35.7%, Greens 11.6% and One Nation 5.3%. The poll also finds Malcolm Turnbull leading Bill Shorten 54.5-45.5 as preferred prime minister; Turnbull rated very good or good by 29.3%, average by 37.2% and poor or very poor by 33.5%; Shorten respectively coming in at 27.7%, 36.7% and 35.6%; and 75.5% rating it very important, 17.0% somewhat important, 5.6% “indifferent” and 1.9% not at all important that Western Australia get a bigger share of GST revenue. The poll was conducted on Thursday from a sample of 1554.
Canavan,
“We have got coal up here, the new clean coal technologies can {generate power} at a reliable price, affordable power and lower emissions. We should look at bringing those technologies in.”
He should look around him. The Mid to Northern Queensland Coastal and Interior areas have also got Sun and Wind, plus the capacity to build a Pumped Hydro storage unit somewhere. They produce MORE affordable power and much LESS emissions than ANY Coal-Fired, ‘Clean’ or otherwise, Power Plant.
Fulvio Sammut,
I see it as my national duty. 😉
CTar – Yep.
Many ordinary people amongst the allies who went through the war would agree with that.
As I do.
Kellyanne Conway’s husband is no legal lightweight. He led the Republican Prosecution Team against the Clinton’s wrt Whitewater, and Bill Clinton’s Impeachment.
He may not have ultimately succeeded but he sure did a lot of collateral damage that they have never really recovered from.
[Poroti
Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 3:59 pm
“Hell as no more fury than will be expressed by a Lib Pensioner that has their entitlements cut.”
2GB phone lines and Hosts will be at Defcon 1]
This is probably the reason why Turnbull went into Twitter meltdown today. Many of 2GB’s listeners on part pensions would lose their concession entitlements and will vent forth given a little encouragement by Hadley & co tomorrow.
Because the story was broken by News Ltd, it will be taken as gospel by the shock jocks.
greensborough growler @ #729 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 6:35 pm
Sounds like some abuse from Pravda during Stalin’s reign.
That is, the description ‘extreme Blairite’, not GG’s comment.
Hmmm – is killing someone ethically the same as enslaving them?
Certainly, up until quite recent times, quite a few significant figures had a spell or two of time spent as slaves in their past (St Patrick leaps to mind), and in ancient times ex-slaves often became respected citizens.
I’m sure that, given the choice, they’d have plumped for slavery over death.
And, of course, although people obviously preferred NOT to be slaves, it wasn’t necessarily regarded with the repugnance it is now – more of a ‘there but for the Grace of God go I” attitude.
Slavery at least gives the person a chance of being free again someday. Being dead is a little more final.
He said that, on speech day, when Malcolm got up onto the stage, all the students booed!
They’d had the chance to get to know him
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First result declarations reveal Green preference flows to Labor up about 10 percentage points on 2013 #wapol #wavotes
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And One Nation exclusion in Warnbro delivered only 56% of preferences to Liberals over Labor #wavotes #wapol
Gorkay – Thanks. Does that mean that pissed of Lib voters who went Green didn’t give their second prefs back to the Libs??
If done humanely, killing may arguably be the ethically superior option as enslaving them might in many cases essentially amount to nothing more than torturing and then killing them.
I think those numbers need to have quantities set against them. Because certainly it’s also the case in ancient times that slaves would “often” be worked, beaten, or starved to death, or otherwise meet an unpleasant end without ever regaining any amount of freedom. And heaven help you if you were a freshly captured female slave of reproductive age.
The question is, which scenario happened more often? Eventual freedom followed by life as a respected citizen, or an anonymous death after potentially much suffering at the hands of indifferent masters?
My inclination is to think that on the balance of the probabilities, a quick death is the preferable option for anyone facing a choice between slavery and execution in ancient times.
Dave
‘Tick”.
Lots of time has gone past.
But simple tactical stuff does do.
Death to Blairism ! Unindicted war criminal Tony Blah is scum
“If done humanely” Always gives me pause for thought.
A R
In the kind of scenario we’re discussing, a quick death was nearly always an available option, and there were certainly examples of individuals who made that choice.
However, the majority – who were far more aware of the implications of a life of slavery than we are – chose to live.
I Tweeted Malcolm Turnbull’s words about Jay Wetherill back at him today and it went off like a rocket on Twitter! 😀
Next time should I try to pay for groceries at Coles with something other than cash? A bunch of flowers from the garden perhaps?
https://www.buzzfeed.com/aliceworkman/goodbye-ja-goodbye?bffbozpol&utm_term=.ja5L0Dd7Ve#.ah4V8l5JDN
Oncer Peter Hendy is reported to be agitating to be the Liberal candidate if JA retires.
When you see articles like this; I think you can say Turnbull is in trouble.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/18/australians-hold-values-that-are-essentially-leftwing-this-week-in-politics-proves-it
So he’s pro-torture? That alone should disqualify him from SCOTUS nomination.
Confessions
Why ? The US these days are totally cool with “enhanced interrogation techniques” .
News publishing stories about Truffles cutting pensions during Newspoll period indicates that Rupert might be intent on hastening Malcolm’s political death.
I was going to say the Sheffield Shield game between WA and NSW is going down to the wire. But when a team still needs 35 runs and Doug Bollinger is batting the wire still seems a long way away.
citizen @ #768 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 8:11 pm
I don’t buy pizzas, but I think they can be bought for around $6.00 per person.
Call it $12.
For several hours work? Come now.
I imagine this news is too late to influence NewsPoll, for maximium effect it should have come out Thursday
dave
‘Even after all this time many in Japan refuse to accept they did much wrong – as well know. ‘
Nippon Kaigi is an extremist right wing mob with around 100,000 members. It runs at least one large school where the children patriotically sing songs from the thirties. It adores the Emperor and calls upon China and Korea to ‘repent’ for misrepresenting Japan’s role in the war. It is a key player in ensuring that Japan’s history texts white wash Japan’s role in WW2.
They expect Japanese ministers to attend Yasukuni Shrine there to worship, inter alia, an assortment of war criminals.
Naturally, they are big on the honour and sacrifice of soldiers in World War Two.
Naturally they just love having C5631 esconced in Yasukuni Shrine. This was the loco that dragged the first train from end to end of the Burma Railway.
Not entirely clear is the link between this particular mob of raving right ratbags and around half a dozen political assassinations since 1980.
It is one of the main forces behind getting rid of those bits of the Constitution that restrict Japanese militarism.
Abe is intimately linked with this mob, recently visited the school where the children embarrassed him by singing lovely 1930’s songs to him personally.
Oh… and there is a ripe old scandal going on right now. Abe may have been involved in Nippon Kaigi getting a plot of land at very low cost from the Japanese Government.
Sohar. Agree, and some of his cabinet colleagues are leaking to hasten Turnbull’s political death and Turnbull knows that (hence the mad tweets). Maybe this all points to a bad newspoll number coming up. Shades of Tone’s recent intervention?
Apologies if others have already discussed this one. On the power supply mess, this article by Chris Uhlmann points out the risks of inadequate supply associated with the closur of Hazelwood, now only weeks away. Supply risks could cost jobs.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-03-19/manufacturers-will-quit-australia-if-reliable-energy-in-doubt/8366528
The article points out that SA renewable energy investment has been driven by federal policy, and the Weatherall plan for batteries and a gas standy plant. Yet it does not talk about the two elephants in the room. How will the Snow Job plan help in the short term, when it will take four to seven years to deliver? The at risk jobs will be long gone by then. And what has the Federal government been doing with energy policy in the three years since it canned the carbon price? I consider that Uhlmann displays quite a bit of bias in the issue he does NOT cover.
I wouldn’t think so, Greens increased their vote by 0.5% so it looks like people who gave higher preference to Lib last time decided to give it to Labor this time.
If done humanely, killing may arguably be the ethically superior option…
reminds me of the 1990s WA Tory minister Graham Kierath, a capital punishment fan, who once offered the view that being executed might be better than spending decades in gaol for a crime you didn’t commit.
I think at the time members of the Birmingham Six and Guildford Four begged to differ.
slav g @ #780 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 9:09 pm
In the absence of hard data, any answers are just speculation.
Because it is illegal, uncivilised and morally reprehensible. And totally goes against the US being signatory to a range of UN Conventions on the subject.
That doesn’t mean that the highest court in the country should have judges appointed to it who are willing to side with the govt embarking on illegal, uncivilised and morally reprehensible acts with prisoners under its responsibility.
Rossmcg
“reminds me of the 1990s WA Tory minister Graham Kierath, a capital punishment fan, who once offered the view that being executed might be better than spending decades in gaol for a crime you didn’t commit.”
It would be interesting to test Keirath’s commitment to that doctrine by introducing the death penalty for official corruption by a Minister. I’m sure he would still support the policy 🙂
Newspoll
52-48 2pp to Labor
Primaries: Coalition 37, Labor 35, Greens 9, One Nation 10, Others 9
Turnbull: Satisfied 30, Dissatisfied 57
Shorten Satisfied 29, Dissatisfied 57
Better PM: Turnbull 43, Shorten 29
1819 sample. March 16-19
Given the trouble getting the desalination plant running again after the Liberals all out attempt to destroy it by ignoring it, I am not surprised that in the future they intend to run it yearly.
Anyone like to make a guess on Newspoll? My money is on 54-46.
I’d dearly love to see 55-45 or even 56-44, unfortunately I feel it is unlikely.
Thsnks James.
If James is publishing the results my guess is 52-48
Grimace,
Look above you!
I feel a nightmare of resentment and criticism of the stupid of voters coming on.
Hmm, the Snowy 2.0 must have been a popular announcement.
I assume 3 points is well outside the MOE.
Galaxy were also in the field today. I don’t know who for because they wanted to not only ask about Voting Intention but Beverage consumption habits!
Possibly C@t, people still want Turnbull to succeed, so if he does anything positive he gets a bounce, a bit like he CPG really.
c@tmomma @ #790 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 9:48 pm
Thanks. If there is an auto update function for this blog it isn’t working on my PC. I did check #ghostwhovotes before I hit submit.
http://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1spneo4?new_post=true hard to believe
Socrates @ 779,
What neither Uhlmann nor any other mainstream commentator reports for the east coast (SA, Vic, Tas, NSW, ACT and Qld) is:
1. Generating capacity in MW by type;
2. Actual availability of this generating capacity, say converting the GWh or MWh per annum to MW (dividing by 365 x 24) to average out coal fired generator availability, or wind turbine availability, or solar panel output availability;
3. Actual minimum daily demand in MW;
4. Peak daily demand in MW; and
5. Time of day for the peak demand,
then leaving out all the gamesmanship of the national energy market, we would all know how serious or otherwise the ‘energy crisis’ is and what needs to be quickly done or more cautiously done to address the real problem – isn’t that what an energy policy should address?
Rather there is comment from a shift operator (or whatever his role is) from Hazlewood Power Station as to his perception of the dire status of the situation.
Its been 53-47 in Essential to Labor for three weeks. I doubt the earlier 55-45 in Newspoll was based on anything other than sampling error. I recall Possum mocked it on twitter when it came out, he thought it was noise.
And Warner fails yet again.
Lion at home, lamb abroad.