The weekend edition of The West Australian has results of a ReachTEL poll of federal voting intention in Western Australia, presumably conducted on Thursday night. It shows Labor with a lead of 53-47, which if borne out would amount to a 7.6% swing compared with last year’s election. I’m not sure about a federal poll conducted in the immediate aftermath of a state election, but there it is. More detail to follow.
UPDATE: After exclusion of 3.2% undecided, the primary votes are Liberal 38.7%, Nationals 5.1%, Labor 35.7%, Greens 11.6% and One Nation 5.3%. The poll also finds Malcolm Turnbull leading Bill Shorten 54.5-45.5 as preferred prime minister; Turnbull rated very good or good by 29.3%, average by 37.2% and poor or very poor by 33.5%; Shorten respectively coming in at 27.7%, 36.7% and 35.6%; and 75.5% rating it very important, 17.0% somewhat important, 5.6% “indifferent” and 1.9% not at all important that Western Australia get a bigger share of GST revenue. The poll was conducted on Thursday from a sample of 1554.
CTar1
Slaughtering the residents of the town/village/city you just conquered was pretty SOP in the good old days. Good old Ghengis was a master at it. Crusaders weren’t to shabby either but then neither were their opponents
PR@693:
Interestingly, most of the BW research outside Japan & Russia was focused on animal disease (mainly anthrax & glanders) until well after WW2, hence the predominance of vets in the field. The last known deliberate use of BW agents was in the “tribal” regions of Zimbabwe during the civil war – when anthrax infected cattle cake developed in the UK & South Africa (Project Coast) was dropped in the field – resulting in a spike of human cases.
Dr Seuss gives an opinion of Turnbull (albeit from the grave).
rhwombat Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:36 pm
PR@693:
Interestingly, most of the BW research outside Japan & Russia was focused on animal disease (mainly anthrax & glanders) until well after WW2, hence the predominance of vets in the field. The last known deliberate use of BW agents was in the “tribal” regions of Zimbabwe during the civil war – when anthrax infected cattle cake developed in the UK & South Africa (Project Coast) was dropped in the field – resulting in a spike of human cases.
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Maybe not biological – but there is still many lingering deaths/malformations with the US use in Iraq from ‘depleted uranium ”
Fallujah, Iraq – Contamination from Depleted Uranium (DU) munitions and other military-related pollution is suspected of causing a sharp rises in congenital birth defects, cancer cases, and other illnesses throughout much of Iraq.
IF you have the stomach to watch :
Depleted Uranium birth defect epidemic IRAQ :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etR01pWgzVA
PhoenixRED
Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 3:36 pm
Stone already preparing his excuse for destroying evidence, maybe the letter & email were sent via Moscow, that would account for the 1 month delay
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/324665-senate-panel-asks-trump-ally-roger-March 18..stone-to-preserve-russia-related-records
….Stone acknowledged that he received the letter this week even though it was dated Feb. 17, according to the Times, which said the letter was signed by Sen Richard Burr (R-N.C.), the chairman of the committee, and Sen. Mark Warner (Va.), the panel’s top Democrat.
Aquasure need to remove this line from its website asap.
“When not producing water, a comprehensive maintenance program guarantees the plant is available to produce water when the need arises”
Totally contradicts what the Victorian Water Minister Lisa Neville has said today.
ALSO : Agent Orange Orphans : 50 years on children suffer from effects of U.S chemical weapons in Vietnam
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etR01pWgzVA
Poroti
Yep, and they weren’t so long ago.
After Napoleon was defeated …
Sorry faulty cut & paste
http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/324665-senate-panel-asks-trump-ally-roger-stone-to-preserve-russia-related-records
sorry – try this :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4hbe5BaBoo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZUD2Bi-enc
So, is Malcolm still going to be PM at the end of this fortnight of sittings? The latest leak was a pretty biggie. Malcolm obviously wet himself when he saw it. We going to get a newspoll tonight?
Aquasure chief executive Matt Brassington said it was “more rewarding” for staff at the plant to actually produce water rather than merely maintain the plant.
Who gives a shit whether Aquasure staff find their job rewarding or not.
C@t
“Such a blinkered, Victoria-centric view.”
The thread was about what was happening in Victoria.
“Or is it simply that The Greens pamphleteer is blissfully and ignorantly overlooking the fact that NSW Labor have had a legislated ban on Developer donations for over a decade now?”
I am well aware of this. The situation in NSW was irrelevant.
fyi The Greens attempted to make amendments at the time, all of which were voted down by Labor and the Coalition.
“Can’t let even a sliver of an enlightened and balanced perspective in on these matters, can we, Pegasus?
The irony.
Lizzie owned up to making the comment offending you so mightily. Just as well I don’t demand apologies for such personalised snark for something I didn’t even say. If the foot was on the other foot the howls of outrage would be deafening.
Someone is “blinkered” but it isn’t me.
Want me to broaden the scope relating to the issue under discussion. Here’s an update on what is recently occurred in NSW.
12 May 2016: https://nsw.greens.org.au/news/nsw/labor-joins-liberals-oppose-banning-donations-mining-companies
Maybe a little late, but can I give a candidate in the rather pointless debate about who was the most qualified Us president. James Buchanan, President 1856- 1861!
He served as secretary of state , ambassador to both GB and Russia, and was a senator or congressman for most of the period 1814-1856! he was chairman of the House committee for the judiciary. A VERY qualified man!!
He is regarded as one of the least competent Presidents, who supported the Dred Scott decision on Slavery, and whose administration was notably corrupt! Many regard his administration as bearing a heavy responsibility for the Civil war.
Is there a Newspoll tonight? With a sitting week coming up and all.
Oh my goodness, here’s a gob smacking spray against Jeremy Corbyn.
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/mar/19/jeremy-corbyn-labour-threat-party-election-support?CMP=share_btn_tw
Check out @roweafr’s Tweet: https://twitter.com/roweafr/status/843357214194597888?s=09
David Rowe’s Sunday effort
PhoenixRed
The weight carrying part of whacking armor plating – with a sharp hardened steel spear enclosed.
You can get them in .50 to put a hole in most troop carriers.
Up till now Truffles has continually called Shorten a hypocrite, but mostly in QT. I think we’ve moved a fair distance into panic mode (see also Weatherill 😉 ) when Truffles tweets that Shorten “always lies”.
greensborough growler @ #717 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 6:09 pm
Checked him out. Looks like an extreme Blairite. Perhaps some good points but need to know where he’s coming from. Supporter of the Iraq war amongst other things.
Taylormade @ 5.53 pm,
I think it’s a good thing that a chief executive cares whether or not his staff find their job rewarding. I think productivity in general would improve if more CEOs took that much interest in their staff
Increased stridency from Turnbull bespeaks a person under considerable stress. Who knows what’s going on in the background. Certainly not the CPG, or if they do know they’re not telling us so they can keep their insider credentials intact.
Add in Dutton strutting his stuff during the week and I reckon there’s a fair chance of a leadership challenge in the wake of the Newspoll if it’s bad enough.
Also Shorten, who probably DOES have a fair idea what’s going on in the background, has been ratcheting up the strength of his comments.
It may all die away again, but I think there’s a fair chance of an explosion this time.
The hidden context is: “You know niggers, they always lie”.
Such a stupid statement for Turnbull to make. Somewhere there is a dusty piece of paper from a focus group, conducted long ago. Turnbull may have it framed on the wall in his office. It sayssimply, “Any mention of Bill Shorten’s name is worth 2 points in Newspoll”.
The naiveity of this stupid anti-Shorten,”Blame Bill For Everything” trope adds weight to my theory that Mark Simkin, ex ABC “impartial and fearless” political correspondent (now part ofTurnbull’s press battalion) is the “Brains” behind it.
Has anyone drawn Canavan’s attention to the respiratory problems suffered by coalworkers?
Bushfire
I’d forgotten Simkin. Well, you would, wouldn’t you…
I saw the pic of the tweets on the News Ltd article on Bill’s response.
All that was incorrect was the time, the next Twitter Tirade ® will be at 3am.
Bill’s response was good, Turnbull would not be happy.
For those who missed Insiders.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2017/mar/19/coalition-says-coal-subsidies-still-on-the-table-despite-snowy-hydro-plan?CMP=share_btn_tw
Ajm,
Whether he’s an extreme Blairite (whatever that is) or not, he did not miss and an his analysis of the situation is honets and unambiguous.
Poroti – I think that, for most of the history, the rule has been that if a besieged city surrendered after a major breach in the wall, everyone would be spared; if it fought on, everyone could be massacred. In other words, you couldn’t force the besieger to suffer heavy losses and then put up your hands at the last moment. I can see the point of that.
Perhaps her job is to read papers to Paw afterwards and explain the big words.
Yep, killing everyone in a conquered city – although it did happen – wasn’t a common event. For most of history, you sold them as slaves. In that context, a dead body meant no profit.
frednk @ #596 #596 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 1:57 pm
Trump treated the majority of the US population as stupid, and he got to be POTUS.
Lizzie – I don’t think there is any strategy behind blaming Shorten. Turnbull is a nasty shit who never takes responsibility for anything. This is Malcolm being himself.
AJM – Yes, things are getting very febrile in the Liberal camp. The pensions leak was a big shot across Malcolm’s bow. Wouldn’t be surprised if someone does something very stupid very soon.
Shorten is certainly playing the govt well. The Turnbull Experiment is in tatters and the coalition are not so silently tearing each other apart from the inside out.
Even the Greens have lost the plot, with Di Natale losing a golden opportunity at the NPC to assert his party’s policy on renewable energy (in a week when politics was ALL about energy), and attack the craziness being offered by the govt, but chose instead to focus on a 4 day working week.
The only rational party out there at the moment is Labor!
The man from Bloviating River is just the latest meme.
ctar1 @ #684 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 4:34 pm
On Military Tribunals: We kept on doing old fashioned ‘court-marshals’ on captured Japanese until 1949.
That we stopped was a direct result of US intervention and their propaganda that most of the German people didn’t ‘know’ and that also they’d need to have bases in Japan to ward off the Russians (and mainland Chinese).
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Except many of them did know about ‘it’.
Japanese newspapers carried graphic details of the rape of Nanking, including beheading completions between a number of murdering raping arseholes – all updated daily in “leading” Japanese newspapers with the count of chinese heads chopped off and who was leading the count.
The newspapers even reported some of the murdering arseholes dropping from exhaustion from chopping so many heads.
“Killing the Rising Sun: How America Vanquished World War II Japan” by Bill O’Reilly (yeah I know!) and Martin Dugard covers the above.
Even after all this time many in Japan refuse to accept they did much wrong – as well know. Docos of IJA Vets cover ‘how much they enjoyed’ the above – no doubt also communicated to those at home in Japan.
One of my favourite stories about the end of the war, was IJA troops waiting on docks to be shipped back home, bragging to the Chinese they’d be back, 5 years at the most. The Chinese shot them out of hand.
Thanks for posting the transcript of Canavan. Seeing it in black and white is powerful.
Given those comments from a member of cabinet, what chance of any meaningful response to the Finkel inquiry?
Interesting how things have ramped up since the Snowy hydro ” nation building ” announcement from Turnbull.
It would not surprise me that if very few within the government were aware it was coming or at the very least when. Caravan made the point today that coal was not forgotten in the governments energy plans.
Perhaps a few within the government who are on the mining teat are not happy. Canavan is one who is upset and I wonder how Scott ” the coal man ” Morrison is feeling especially when Turnbull has ” lumped ” him with a plus $2 billion price tag to be added to the budget topay for hydro. The mining boys would not be happy.
Cheers.
That alone would mean they’d go for it. The coalition is rivaled only by the GOP in transferring funds from taxpayers to billion dollar investors, and for outdated industries.
Aquasure staff, probably. And the entire management/executive team, if they’re halfway competent.
Which is still about as bad, ethically speaking, as just killing them all.
Yes, and Hillary treated them as intelligent enough to handle the truth, and got crucified for pointing out that some elements of the U.S. population aren’t actually that intelligent.
Logic and politics don’t often go together.
This is Malcolm being himself.
Same self absorbed kiss up kick down piece of shit he was in High School.
Pegasus,
fyi The Greens attempted to make amendments at the time, all of which were voted down by Labor and the Coalition.
Because they were claptrap. And likely Unconstitutional.
‘Ban corporate donations’
The definition of ‘corporate’ from The Greens would be useful here. Is ‘Wotif’ a ‘corporate’? Is The Greens’ donor who used to own ‘Kathmandu’ a ‘corporate’, or now that she is the major shareholder in Bellamy’s Dairy Products, is that ‘corporate’ or not?
Not to mention the number of Alternative Lifestyle businesses that no doubt donate to The Greens. How about ‘donations in kind’? What links are there and what support is given to The Greens from the likes of ‘Get Up’, the ACF, WWF, Sea Shepherd and other corporatised/incorporated organisations?
Other than those, who would be exempt I am guessing from The Greens’ ban, am I right in surmising that The Greens want to ban donations from every other ‘corporate’ who doesn’t donate to them but donates to the Majors?
‘place caps on election spending’
So that The Greens, who don’t get as many donations as the Labor, Liberal and Nationals parties, can surf along at election time on a guaranteed spigot of money and on the coat tails of the fundraisers in the other parties who have worked their butts off to raise funds for the party of their choice, such that those efforts are negated? Erm, no.
require all candidates to continually disclose their donations in the two months leading up to an election
So everyone donates in the 2 months + 1 day, in the lead-up to the election.
Then there’s Jamie ‘The Watermelon’ Parker’s risible attempt at introducing legislation to ban the Mining and Petroleum Industry donating to political parties.
They don’t need to! Although I note that they have in the past via your lumping in of all donations by them to, Labor, Liberal and National parties without any breakdown of which party got how much (knowing full well that most of that money went to the Liberals and the Nationals and not Labor, but hey, sleazy behaviour doesn’t end at the door of the Major parties, The Greens can smear with the best of them).
As I said, in this instance, and has been demonstrated repeatedly in recent elections, the Mining and Petroleum Industry, like the Gambling Industry it must be added, don’t really need to donate to the political parties, they just run expensive campaigns at election time against whoever they want to.
So how do The Greens propose to stop that? Because if they even try then, as I stated earlier, such prohibition would be Unconstitutional.
Also, I will add for good measure, there is the ‘Implied Free Speech’ case which the Unions took all the way to the High Court and won against the government, which I am sure the ‘Corporates’ would take a close look at if The Greens ever tried to ban ‘Corporate donations’ to political parties or Corporate campaigns at election time.
Finally, I do agree that real time donation transparency is a good thing. 🙂
This seems like an obviously controversial choice:
The U.S. needs better anti-nepotism laws.
john reidy @ #738 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 6:53 pm
I’d say about the same as the chance of Finkel recommending an Emissions Intensity Scheme in his final report.
taylormade @ #706 Sunday, March 19, 2017 at 5:48 pm
Your comprehension is worse that I had previously thought.
Ratsak – I knew someone who was at high school with Malcolm when he was head prefect. He said that, on speech day, when Malcolm got up onto the stage, all the students booed!
Trump is certainly testing what anti-nepotism rules they do have, isn’t he?
Cat, don’t argue with Horsey over her cut and pastes. There’s no point.
She hasn’t read them, just dutifully passed on undigested horse manure sent to her from Greenie Propaganda Headquarters.
Dave
It’s quite unfashionable to say so but the British C’wlth opinion on the Russians getting into Berlin first was the Germans get what they deserve (and so on Japan).