The latest reading of the BludgerTrack poll aggregate finds at least some of the gloss coming off Malcolm Turnbull’s honeymoon poll ratings, with Labor gaining half a point on two-party preferred since last week and clawing back a point on the seat projection. This week’s Newspoll result means there are now two useable data points this year for personal ratings, the other being the monthly reading from Essential Research that was released a fortnight ago, and they collectively indicate a double-digit drop in Turnbull’s net approval rating since the end of last year, and a downturn in his standing on preferred prime minister. Nonetheless, Turnbull retains commanding leads, and the Coalition is credited with a bigger two-party vote and seat majority than was achieved at the 2013 election.
BludgerTrack: 53.7-46.3 to Coalition
Aggregated poll ratings find Malcolm Turnbull falling short of the heights he achieved towards the end of last year, without giving Labor any real cause for optimism about the election due later this year.
SK
We have a shortage of housing. See Housing Department waiting lists and people sleeping on the streets
Wayne Swan @SwannyQLD · 4h4 hours ago
BCA has no idea. The cause of its dysfunction infects the Lib Party – the blindness of affluence. See #TheGoodFight
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renailemay: The ABC is about to be grilled about the @NickRossTech NBN affair at Senate #estimates, watch live here: https://t.co/cXbOGuOsdw
c@tmomma@1987
I understand what you mean. Democracy has well and truly been hijacked
victoria@1960
He pulled the pin out of the Tax grenade and its blown up in his face.
He has lost control of it all when the AFR says the following (AFR BTW….catching up with whats been said here on PB for sometime now) –
[ A tax debate shemozzle, for that is what it has become, raises questions anew about Turnbull’s political judgement,
…Business is dismayed over what it perceives to be a vacillating leadership,
…Months of drift on the tax issue – of not ruling anything in or out, of differences of emphasis between Prime Minister and Treasurer – has left the country confused.]
http://www.afr.com/news/politics/malcolm-turnbulls-tax-shemozzle-raises-questions-of-judgment-20160208-gmo9vf
and –
[….the question increasingly will be asked: what is the point of Mr Turnbull’s government? ]
http://www.afr.com/opinion/editorials/malcolm-turnbulls-government-what-is-the-point-of-it-20160208-gmoj08#ixzz3zboZiskh
vic
[Democracy has well and truly been hijacked]
What?
G
[We have a shortage of housing. See Housing Department waiting lists and people sleeping on the streets]
I tried to post a nice long reply to that. But it got eaten by the dog. I dont know the full details behind the dept of housing waiting list, and certainly dont know why people are on the street. The is very likely a shortage of housing in the right areas for these people. Perhaps there is a lack of government funding to assist them in owning a house or accessing cheap rental.
But as for the market as a whole, if you ignore the usual articles from interest groups and try to prise out the independent analysis you will notice many say undersupply is either a myth or is overstated.
The Age
The Age – Verified account @theage
#auspol Radical #MalcolmTurnbull plan for private sector to deliver Medicare http://bit.ly/1O0mpmb
SK
Then those articles are lying. The years of people waiting for housing on lists with departments is no myth.
People sleeping on the streets is no myth.
That is you indication of a housing shortage not BS from those justifying their profits
Renai LeMay
Renai LeMay – Verified account @renailemay
ABC #estimates is now pausing for lunch, the @NickRossTech stuff will likely start after 2pm
victoria
Convenient timing to hide behind QT.
Simon
[The is very likely a shortage of housing in the right areas for these people. Perhaps there is a lack of government funding to assist them in owning a house or accessing cheap rental.]
It has nothing to do with the right area they do not get a choice and if they knock it back they stay on the list.
I worked in Glebe for the State Member of the time and there are absolutely thousands looking for a home and it is a very slow process.
[Mainly because the Anti Problem Gambling…Tax campaigns, run with the money from the bloated coffers of the Vested Interest groups who reside at the Big End of Town, against the former Labor federal government]
Included in the top 5 political donors to the ALP for 2014-15 was Clubs NSW who contributed $66,000 to the party’s coffer.
[ClubsNSW represents more than 1200 member clubs, and makes an important contribution to state and national policy direction, including the development for industry-specific legislation relating to alcohol, gambling, taxation, and industrial relations.]
http://www.clubsnsw.com.au/our-industry/corporate-profile/about-clubsnsw
Political donations from Registered Clubs Association of NSW (t/as ClubsNSW) dating back to 1999 can be found at:
http://periodicdisclosures.aec.gov.au/Donor.aspx?SubmissionId=56&ClientId=16043
What’s in it for Clubs NSW to be donating large sums over many years to the ALP if not to buy influence, specifically no ‘real reform’ supporting anti-problem gambling legislation?
Simon
I agree with guytaur the number of people living in shop doorways would shock you a lot of them mentally ill.
ABCNews24: The Government has successfully gagged the Shadow Attorney-General & Manager of Opposition Business ending #StuartRobert debate #auspol
guytaur
If something of interest comes up during estimates, Labor senators will let it be known to those in the HOR
victoria
Yes but it does mean some journalists will be at QT coverage not Estimates and no ABC and probably no Sky coverage
Doug Cameron on Capital Hill
guytaur
It means HOR Labor MPs can ask questions on the spot
victoria
No I think Labor would need a bombshell to break in on Roberts and Medicare questions.
9NewsAUS: UPDATE: @Telstra says it is investigating reports of an outage, affecting multiple cities across Australia. #9Newscomau
[The embattled minister Stuart Robert took his controversial “private” trip to China several days before he was due in Singapore for official business, raising questions about portions of his international travel being taxpayer-funded.
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Guardian Australia asked Robert whether he had undertaken the Beijing visit as a side trip to his $10,450 government-funded trip
dr_nic: Somewhere at @telstra HQ, there is a bottle of bad tequila sitting on a delete key… https://t.co/nPDKtOJjtN
This link should work
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2016/feb/09/stuart-roberts-china-trip-preceded-official-singapore-visit-records-show?CMP=share_btn_tw
adamgartrell: Health Minister Sussan Ley has confirmed the government is considering a major health payments shake-up https://t.co/twQRAEATVU via @smh
Homelessness isn’t necessarily an indicator of housing supply. Many homeless people couldn’t even begin to afford a mortgage, no matter how cheap or available housing was or how easy it was to get a loan.
GG
[The only reason you’d go to a polly’s funeral would be to ensure they are in the casket ready for despatch.]
Especially in Philip Ruddocks case !
guytaur
So it is not a scare campaign
zoomster
People rent. Not all own properties.
victoria
Certainly not.
JasonClareMP: Today’s Burnie Advocate – Tassie Mayors are angry with Turnbull’s 2nd Rate #NBN https://t.co/fLMu8dAr4e
guytaur
Indeed they do. Doesn’t change my point.
Using the basic microeconomic laws of supply and demand I think we can assume that most (not all) homelessness is an incicator that there is insufficient supply. If there was an oversupply the price would fall and more people would be able to afford to buy or rent.
There are some homeless people who choose to live rough (I know of people who own homes who cannot live indoors), but these are rare.
More commonly there are people who are socially dysfuctional such that they are unable to rent privately. People with a history of property damge, non payment of rent, just out of jail, very large families, drug use, alchoholics etc. This is a very real problem, for housing agencies, who often give such people priority.
zoomster
Yes it does. Housing Departments are rental not owner occupiers. So therefore renting a property mean you are not homeless.
A basic fact I am surprised you are disputing
SK
Thanks. You’ve got to be right.
A curious way of describing self made -v- inherited.
jendudley: If this #TelstraDown issue continues, you realise we’re all going to have to talk to one another today. In real life. #TheHorror
dtt
I think we’re talking about different things.
There can be (nominally) enough houses to meet demand whilst at the same time having a housing shortage.
This can be for a number of reasons – for example, an oversupply of unsuitable housing (e.g. apartments when people want houses), people owning second or third homes (I would say the proportion of the population who own holiday homes, for example, has risen over the last couple of decades; similarly, I know of quite a few families locally who have two residences, their home and a ‘commuter pad’).
The original comment (not made by me) was that there was not an undersupply of housing as such, but that the housing that existed was not necessarily available.
Homelessness isn’t an indicator when we’re discussing that scenario.
guytaur
[So therefore renting a property mean you are not homeless.
A basic fact I am surprised you are disputing
]
OK, so we’re not talking about the same thing, because I wasn’t (obviously) disputing that. (In fact, I deliberately didn’t refer to public housing at all).
MTBW and G
You are talking about a specific housing type. I am talking about the market in general.
The crisis in affordable housing and accessible rentals is more complicated than you are stating. 200000 houses were built last year, 200000 more will be built this year. The question you should be asking is ‘Why arent enough of these houses in the affordable market?’, not ‘why arent we building more houses?’.
..I should add, of course, that another factor is the location of the housing. So you can have plenty of houses available, but in the ‘wrong’ location.
zoomster
Under supply exists. Its why people are on waiting lists and homeless.
The fact the market may be supplying more houses for the rich does not change the basic fact there is an under supply of houses.
The reasons may be varied however the fact remains the waiting lists for Department of Housing places and the number of homes is the indication of housing supply not the market people making excuses.
SK
The question should be why is the market failing our society in not providing the right housing for all people.
This is market failure and government failure. All the excuses you list are used by the US real estate market and governments so they don’t have to deal with their homeless problem.
Australia should not be following their lead
Simon
[The question you should be asking is ‘Why arent enough of these houses in the affordable market?’]
Sydney is not the right place to ask for that the median is about $800,000.
MTBW
[the number of people living in shop doorways would shock you a lot of them mentally ill.]
I havent always lived in the leafy Adelaide Hills. In student digs in Erko and going out late in the X, as well as working in William St at 3am (no, not that sort of work), you get to see a lot. But nothing prepared me for a month working in Macquarie Fields.
Guytaur who are ‘the rich” that all these houses are being built for? I think they are probably ordinary Aussies.
SenatorLudlam: before ABC #estimates resumes, here is the @NickRossTech forensic piece on the #NBN that you’ll be hearing about https://t.co/BhAwf7YAcu
dwh
Rich is relative. Rich is certainly those with more wealth than those on housing lists and homeless.
Its not a small number its a large number.
Simon
[But nothing prepared me for a month working in Macquarie Fields.]
That is interesting it is also a largely Housing Commission area and yes a lot of the tenants may not be the best of tenants.
http://www.smh.com.au/digital-life/mobiles/major-telstra-mobile-outage-hits-nationwide-with-calls-and-data-affected-20160209-gmpagu.html
G
[The question should be why is the market failing our society in not providing the right housing for all people.]
Agree
[This is market failure]
Not sure, how about the market isnt failing, but it is failing society?
[and government failure]
Agree
[All the excuses you list are used by the US real estate market and governments so they don’t have to deal with their homeless problem]
I dont understand this. What excuses? I just dont think we should heat up the residential construction market anymore than it is by buying into the developers mantra of undersupply.