The always reliable James J relates in comments that the latest Newspoll result is 53-47 in favour of the Coalition, up from 52-48 a fortnight ago. More to follow.
UPDATE: Primary votes are Coalition 46% (up one), Labor 34% (down one) and Greens 10% (down one). Malcolm Turnbull’s personal ratings finally appear to be levelling off, with his approval down two to 56% and disapproval up one to 24%. Bill Shorten is up one on approval to 27% and down one on disapproval to 57%, while Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister is 61-18, which is little changed on the 63-17 result last time.
UPDATE 2 (Essential Research): The latest fortnightly rolling average from Essential Research finds the Coalition losing the point it gained on two-party preferred last week, putting its lead back at 52-48. Primary votes are Coalition 45% (steady), Labor 35% (up one) and Greens 10% (down one). The poll includes Essential’s monthly leadership ratings, which have Malcolm Turnbull’s approval up nine points from his debut on approval to 56% and up three on disapproval to 20%, while Bill Shorten is down three to 27% and up five to 47%. Turnbull’s lead as preferred prime minister widens substantially, from 48-19 to 55-14. Also featured:
Forty-three support mining and exporting of uranium with 30% opposed, while support and opposition for nuclear power plants in Australia are tied at 40%. However, only 31% support development of nuclear waste storage facilities, with 50% opposed.
If it’s taken as a given that revenue needs to be raised, 27% favour increasing the GST, 26% favour increasing income taxes and 14% favour expanding the GST to cover food, health and education. If it’s taken as a given that the GST needs to be expanded, 54% favour increasing the rate from 10% to 15%, and 46% favour removing the exemptions.
Seventy-seven per cent oppose changing the voting age, with only 14% agreeing it should be voluntary for sixteen and seventeen year olds, and 4% believing it should be compulsory for them.
Sixty-three per cent approve of the decision to end the knights and dames awards.
TBA @162
Most people prefer bobbing apples TBA, but each to his own I suppose…
it’s all about stripping rights and income of lower income – privatise schools health etc etc turnbull is a pansy
https://www.getup.org.au/campaigns/climate-action-now/australia-blocking-global-climate-deal/urgent-australia-blocking-global-climate-deal
Turnbull no better than Abbott – same climate sabotage.
Gloss coming off – thats peak Turnbull now. All downhill from here.
Sign on above
http://kevinbonham.blogspot.com.au/2015/11/poll-roundup-coalition-equals-term-high.html
Poll Roundup: Coalition Equals Term High
2PP aggregate: 52.8 to L-NP (+0.1)
[Royalty is just another synonym for a tax]
I thought Royalty was a synonym for parasites.
[TBA @162
Meanwhile Bill Shorten is the bobbing turd in the toilet bowl that’s waiting to be flushed.]
I belatedly call TBA’s attention to article 11 of comment moderation guidelines.
[Allow people with a large family home / principal residence asset to claim the pension but place a lien on the asset such that when it is sold or inherited the pension payments are repaid to the government.]
While neither side of politics seems to have any interesting in actually reforming retirement income policy in a sensible way, if you are going to do so you cannot ignore the home, it is a key element of retirement. You can’t disregard its value, to do so will create stupid outcomes.
The home also needs to come into the CGT net, there is no real reason to exclude it.
There should in fact be a mechanism to allow super to go into the home (and mechanisms to ensure the super value is preserved) early in the cycle. That is if you like the carrot, the stick is that the value must count to the asset test and the home must be subject to CGT.
You could also have a mechanism to reward post retirement downsizing.
A pretty self-explanatory David Pope cartoon:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
And an article accompanied by a photo of the duchess of cornwall getting up close and personal with our new prime minister:
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/duchess-of-cornwall-treated-to-perfectly-planned-truffle-tasting-20151110-gkvw59.html
WWP
[ People are expecting 15% GST start date of 1 July 2018, with an election and liberal win after the budget. ]
People? What people?
Am I allowed to ask who the nicknames “Oili ness” and “Rod ent” refer to, upon reading section 12 of the Comment moderation guidelines, even though they’re banned? (Even if I’m not I’m banned now 😛 )
It was a group of 10 or so senior tax experts. Not one of them thought there was any risk of Turnbull losing and not one of them thought there was any chance a returned Turnbull wouldn’t increase the GST to 15%. Like me they all thought that there was no political win and lots of pain in expanding the base.
Victoria – So you spend 30 years as a young adult propping up everybody else, then you become elderly and they suddenly decide to charge you full freight. What garbage.
Yet Morrison is desperately keen to make sure that none of his mates are “retrospectively” affected by super changes.
” Rod ent ” A senior liberal once referred to John Howard as a lying rodent. Brandis i think??
WWP
[ It was a group of 10 or so senior tax experts. ]
So by “people” you mean “people with a vested interest”.
TPOF
With luck Tones’ crew will emula
[They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing. ]
[ Yet Morrison is desperately keen to make sure that none of his mates are “retrospectively” affected by super changes. ]
The Libs are cruising at the moment on the basis of Malcolm’s pleasantness…..and the fact he is not Abbott.
But, people are expecting policy, particularly on tax and i suspect they are getting an inkling about now that it may not be as easy as they thought to dig themselves out of the hole Abbott and Hockey excavated in 2014.
[Am I allowed to ask who the nicknames “Oili ness” and “Rod ent” refer to, upon reading section 12 of the Comment moderation guidelines, even though they’re banned?]
Quite a few of the MGs are dead letters remaining from the days when I applied a firmer hand. It was once the style to call John Howard “the rodent”, and no doubt still is in certain circles. “Oiliness” dates from the Obama vs Clinton wars of 2008, and was a nickname adopted by certain supporters of the latter (perhaps just the one, actually) to denigrate the former. Certain of Obama’s supporters purported to find this racist, such was the atmosphere of theatrical high dudgeon at the time, and I think I agreed to add it to the list for the sake of a quiet life.
[So by “people” you mean “people with a vested interest”.]
I’m not sure I mean people who know a lot about tax, one or two of them might have worked for advising firms but most didn’t.
Most were concerned about cost / inconvenience of implementing the change.
TBA @268
If Adam Crieghton thinks these “disparities are remarkable” then I’m guess mathematics isn’t his thing: that’s the way ordered bins (quintiles in this case) work in a zero sum game.
In contrast to the innumerate sensationalism in the headline some other points in the article are quite good (e.g. regarding taxing income rather than wealth) but tend to undermine the sensationalist headline. For example if one adds in capital appreciation on homes (in addition to imputed rent) then the picture alters rather a lot. Add in the source of that capital appreciation (government spending on the infrastructure and public goods in the vicinity) and it shifts further.
TPOF
Ooops , escaped too soon . Re Pope’s Napoleon Turnbull cartoon. Team Tones will be like the Bourbons of which it was said
[They have learned nothing and forgotten nothing. ]
K17
The coaltion reforms always involves assisting vested interests and profit making exercises
[ such was the atmosphere of theatrical high dudgeon at the time]
Here’s hoping this US Presidential contest brings such a level of passion and excitement.
[exemption in response to a Fairfax Media investigation, published Monday, which revealed one of the key stakeholder organisations used to justify exempting the largest private companies was actually a front group without any members.
The Family Office Institute Australia, which was quoted at length in a Senate committee report, was established in August by two lawyers and a Canberra lobbyist who represent Australia’s ultra-rich in disputes with the Australian Tax Office.]
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/senate-repeals-tax-secrecy-law-after-astroturf-revelations-20151111-gkwm10.html#ixzz3rB5Xc1we
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[such was the atmosphere of theatrical high dudgeon at the time]
At the time???? It must have been bad if it does relate now!
Victoria
What bothers me most about the family office institute business is that if I read the story correctly, the senate committee report seems to have basically copied the institutes submission
That would seem to me that the Tory senators were in on the scam or they just failed hopelessly to do their jobs or a combination of both
poroti @ 971
It was always a hallmark of Abbott to be like those Bourbons. His whole leadership was to play the policies and successes of yesteryear without any consideration of what had changed. Time moved on while he clung doggedly to the certainties of the past.
He certainly seems to be biding his time hoping for Napoleon Turncoat to be defeated by others, upon which point he will be recalled to his rightful throne, gathering around him the relics of the Ancien Regime, like Abetz and Bernardi. But who will play Metternich?
rossmcg
[…was actually a front group without any members.
The Family Office Institute Australia, which was quoted at length in a Senate committee report,]
It really is appalling. How often does this crap go on I wonder ?
[perhaps just the one, actually]
I’m pretty sure it was mainly ron, but Flipper Boy couldn’t help himself.
I don’t recall it being considered racist but I might have missed it.
[ such was the atmosphere of theatrical high dudgeon at the time
Here’s hoping this US Presidential contest brings such a level of passion and excitement.]
That’s not going to happen. Hillary will be the Dem candidate, no-one cares who wins the Repug and we will all support Clinton.
rossmcg
I was thinking the same thing.
[That’s not going to happen. Hillary will be the Dem candidate, no-one cares who wins the Repug and we will all support Clinton.]
Sad but the logic is compelling.
Victoria
I lean to my first suggestion. The senators knew exactly what they were dealing with.
TPOF
[.., gathering around him the relics of the Ancien Regime, like Abetz and Bernardi]
Ah yes I can see it now. Tony Bourbon returned to the throne after Napoleon Turnbull’s defeat at Waterloo 2016 . Hurrah for Bill Wellington 😆
rossmcg
i would not be surprised. Spivs and fraudsters the lot of them.
[Victims of domestic violence needed to be recognised in the same way Australia honours the sacrifice of soldiers in war, a former chief of army says.
David Morrison, speaking at the launch of a national framework to address violence against women and children, says Australia does not celebrate the victories of women.
On Wednesday – Remembrance Day – the hundreds of thousands who died in war over the past century would be recalled, he said.
“We will honour the courage of those men and women,” the retired lieutenant-general, who made headlines with his 2013 video calling out sexist soldiers, told the audience.
“And yet we don’t do that for the millions of women and children who throughout that century have been the victims of domestic violence.”]
http://www.dailylife.com.au/news-and-views/news-features/former-army-chief-david-morrison-australia-should-honour-domestic-violence-victims-like-fallen-soldiers-20151111-gkwavn.html?
I do like the work Morrison has done in trying to clean up the culture of the ADF, but I’m not sure how I feel about honouring family violence survivors in the same way those soldiers lost at war are remembered.
I’ll need some more convincing on this.
TheCrank @780
“close to half” is a clue…
[Rowan
Rowan – @MalSplaining
Labor eyes Adam Goodes as potential candidate for federal election http://www.theaustralian.com.au/news/labor-eyes-adam-goodes-as-potential-candidate-for-federal-election/story-e6frg6n6-1227605273361 … … https://twitter.com/MalSplaining/status/645241954326867969 …]
lizzie@755
Good of you to raise this lizzie, so lets look at the facts since you haven’t named names.
BEFORE your posts, victoria contributed..
victoria@506
followed by Puff …
Puff, the Magic Dragon.@510
and confessions …
confessions@512
and confessions again …
confessions@515
Before anyone else said anything.
So lets be clear where this crap comes from.
My humble contribution after your posts was simply to dismiss this crap with the comment…
bemused@567
An example of the backward-ness of WA. The state govt regulates the growing and supply of potatoes.
[The Supreme Court handed down an injunction preventing Mr Galati growing more than his quota of 6000 tonnes under an agreement with the Government’s potato marketing watchdog.
The Potato Marketing Corporation sought the injunction with the support of the peak body representing other growers in WA.
Mr Galati and his lawyers will continue the fight against the quota system in a Supreme Court trial. They will argue that attempts to control supply and price under WA legislation dating back 70 years breach Australia’s competition laws.]
https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/30064021/galati-vows-to-fight-on-after-losing-bid-to-grow-more-potatoes/
rossmcg@889
It’s pathetic if true.
Labor should not be courting celebrities, we have enough talent within our ranks.
If Feeney and others are so keen on celebrities, let them stand aside in their seats.
TheCrank @841
I hope you realise all that data has taxpayers ordered and binned by taxable income
It is no surpise at all that someone with a high taxable income pays a high amount of tax!
The problem is that “the rich” and “people with a high taxable income” are not one and the same: whilst everyone with a high taxable income is at least somewhat “rich” not everyone who is rich has a high taxable income – some of “the rich” choose to reduce their taxable income aggressively and hence pay little or no tax.
[Peter van Onselen @vanOnselenP 50m50 minutes ago
First extract out tomorrow in the @Australian… More over the weekend. ]
On why the Liberals “shirt-fronted” Abbott. Isn’t it obvious? Surely we don’t need to buy a book to understand why.
This being Rememberance Day….
The Tory attitude to ex-soldiers……….
victoria, 987
I heard NXT were interested in courting him too – he seems like he’d be a great asset
Airlines
He would be. Although the controversy surrounding him over the past football season has been divisive in the community. Stupid as that is.
[James Massola
James Massola – Verified account @jamesmassola
Yarn by @vanOnselenP: Julie Bishop had eyes in Abbott coup meeting http://m.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/julie-bishop-had-eyes-in-coup-meeting-plotting-against-tony-abbott/story-fn59niix-1227605352342 …]
The pension isn’t paid for by taxpayers. No federal government spending is.
TheCrank @850
Both SG and HK have significant land value taxes – ideal for city states and the best option available in general. Hence they have lower rates for the various other (less efficient and in some cases downright insane) taxes, though SG does have stamp duty for some reason.
I take it you’re now a convert?
Doyley
Why are you so sensitive to criticism of the Labor Party? It isn’t your family, for f***’s sake. Don’t be so tribal.
Airlines:
I remember the fuss and carry on made when Nova Peris was nominated as a Labor candidate, and so far she’s done okay. We usually see outrage from white Australians whenever black people are given a leg up and I imagine it would be the same for Goodes, whatever he decides for his post footy career.