This week’s BludgerTrack reading goes a fair way towards illustrating what all the fuss is about in federal politics just at the moment, following the addition of new numbers from Galaxy, Ipsos and Essential Research (albeit that the latter was actually something of a dampener). Compared with last week’s reading, shifts of approaching 2% have been recorded for the two major parties on both the two-party and primary vote. Even Palmer United, which had fallen below 2% for a while there, seems to have lifted itself off the canvas as voters desert the Coalition every which way. No fewer than nine seats are recorded as switching from the Coalition column to Labor since last week’s result, including two each in Victoria and Western Australia, one each in New South Wales and Tasmania, and interestingly enough three in Queensland. There is presently not a single seat in Brisbane where the model rates the Coalition win probability at higher than 31%.
Ipsos and Galaxy also provided new numbers for the leadership ratings, albeit that the latter only did so for preferred prime minister. Sharp as the drop on Tony Abbott’s net approval has been, his present reading of minus 27.6% is a lot more flattering than the numbers produced by Ipsos, suggesting he has a good way further to fall next week. Because the model has two sets of numbers to work with on preferred prime minister rather than one, its reading has nearly caught up with the Ipsos and Galaxy results, putting Bill Shorten nearly as far ahead as Tony Abbott was immediately after the election.
Josquin @ 1590,
I got 8. Mind you, I reckon picking between Tony Abbott and Idi Amin would have been harder.
CTar1
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The cost of provisioning PC plods with tikka masala , pies and burgers in Knightsbridge would be horrendous.
Nicholas@1569
Agreed. The EU/Germany strategy of forcing loans on Greece (to primarily pay German and French Banks*) while simultaneously forcing austerity on a depressed economy has seen governmental revenue fall faster than the cuts. It has been a colossal failure for 5 years.
The Greek government has cut its budget by 25% (one of the largest peacetime consolidations in history) while increasing its tax revenue to GDP ratio, but it still can’t pay the interest payments because its economy has shrunk
The EU strategy of not writing down debt, forcing extra loans while cutting the national income of Greece simply cannot work. People can pontificate about obligations, repayments of debts, etc. but the maths simply does not work.
* About 80% of the loans go to this.
Snafu Rowan Dean is now talking crap
[If this mandatory cabinet solidarity is correct then it will doom the spill motion to failure. Thankfully.]
Well Mathais Cormman went on 7:30 and said he strongly supported Abbott but said that the spill motion should be decided by a secret ballot based on a precedent that Malcolm Turnbull created in the two spill motions first against Andrews and then against Abbott.
A secret ballot gives all the ministers the opportunity to vote against Abbott.
victoria
I advise a cup of tea, a Bex and a good lie down 🙂
poroti
😀
Albrechtsen has said that the cabinet, and most of the MPs came out in strong support of Abbott, do not support him and that Abbott is 100% finished.
Shows On @ 1591,
Maybe right the first time – possibly Prince Philip of Spain and the Virgin Queen.
poroti
[The cost of provisioning PC plods with tikka masala , pies and burgers in Knightsbridge would be horrendous.]
There’s a McDonalds not that far away.
The idea that Cabinet solidarity or Ministerial solidarity would bind a meeting a party members deciding its leader is bizarre.
First problem to work out who would be bound – 19 in Cabinet, 11 in Outer Minisrty and 13 parliamentary secretaries on a rough count.
Second problem is to solve the conundrum that it creates an artifical barrier getting in the way of normal organisational democracy.
Why should a member of Cabinet be denied the right to express a view on their leader.
The Labor Party use of the same idea to try and dominate caucus voting on policy issues equally undemocratic.
gloryconsequence 1608
Expect Abbott to visit GG tomorrow.
Re Josquin @1590: I got 9/12. I assumed that the more complex and coherent answers were Jones’.
WarrenPeace
[Expect Abbott to visit GG tomorrow.]
Wouldn’t that be a hoot!!!
ShowsOn
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If Turnbull wants to be PM he should say that he will resign from the ministry if there isn’t a secret ballot for the spill motion.
—-turnbull will need to do a few brave things or he is history too – not sure he is up to it – that party’s only choice but he is it of jelly –
CTar1
That would be the McDonalds with the Beluga Burgers 🙂
Yes, WarrenPeace. It’ll be interesting to see Sir Governor General’s face when Tony taps on the front door at breakfast time demanding ELECTION NOW!
sohar@1617
Even better to see the GG ask abbott to prove he has the confidence of the House in respect to his *request*.
“Come back after the leadershit spill, sonny boy”
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sohar
Yes, WarrenPeace. It’ll be interesting to see Sir Governor General’s face when Tony taps on the front door at breakfast time demanding ELECTION NOW!]
Were he to try this he would, naturally, find he would get no votes at all in the spill.
poroti
There is a McDonalds just around the corner from the Embassy… 🙂
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And even if an election were granted the LNP would be almost completely wiped out.
[gloryconsequence 1608
Expect Abbott to visit GG tomorrow.]
Simpkins and Randall would go out and demand the spill motion go ahead.
New thread.
Meanwhile, this week the Commonwealth borrowed $1.9 billion.
Apologies if posted already but David Marr in The Guardian sums up Abbott perfectly in one sentence:
[…to an uncomfortable degree he remains the man recruited in his teens by the conservative fanatic BA Santamaria to save the nation from the future.]
http://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2015/feb/06/tony-abbott-is-in-trouble-because-he-never-let-the-junkyard-dog-go
Musrum@1475
Ah, interesting. I haven’t got my head around the framework thing in CSS. Good to know that wasn’t too hard of a fix.
Can someone clarify that in order for the spill to be carried and then move onto a leadership vote there has be a majority of the 102 liberal members, ie 57 votes minimum?
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swamprat
With an average price for a flat of £3,792,131 the denizens of Knightsbridge slumming it by eating Maccas food would see as “rad” and a larf.
swamprat
With an average price for a flat of £3,792,131 the denizens of Knightsbridge slumming it by eating Maccas food would see as “rad” and a larf.
Should check my maths – 52 votes minimum that should be.
poroti /swamprat
[They could do the double decker burger.]
Victoria @1604
Rowan Dean: groan. Put him in the mix with Devine, Chris Kenny, Alan Jones, Bolt, Nick Cater, etc, etc, etc, and we can see why the Fiberals are in trouble all over the country.
It’s not just the pollies; the urgers in the media are constantly in denial. We have periods of sunshine, and then they slip back (Bolt, I’m talking to you).
There’s so much stuff about Abbott’s leadership woes on Google that I’ve given up trying to find a link, but I woke up laughing this morning, remembering those reports not long after the last election about that coterie of Abbott insiders who had decided 2013 was the perfect time to “teach the electorate a lesson.”
Remember that? Such hubris.
Now, not many of the electorate might ever even have read or heard about that, but methinks they have taken that shoe regardless, firmly planted it on the other foot, and are in the process of sticking firmly up the Government’s derrière.
They can try changing horses midstream, but unless they also ready to drastically change their direction, and learn the lesson the voters are determined to teach THEM, I expect they will still be going nowhere….
Front page of the Sunday Telegraph
Peace Deal to save PM!
https://twitter.com/LillSaleh/status/564014592917921792
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