No change on two-party preferred this week on Essential Research’s fortnightly rolling average, with Labor remaining 52-48 ahead, but the Coalition has gained a point on the primary vote, to 41%, at the expense of the steady decline of Palmer United, down one to 3%. Labor and the Greens are steady on 39% and 10%. Essential also features its monthly personal ratings, adding to a picture of improvement for Tony Abbott who is up five on approval to 40% and down four on disapproval to 48%, while Bill Shorten is steady on both measures at 35% and 36%. Abbott has also opened up a fairly solid 38-32 lead as preferred prime minister after trailing 35-36 last time.
Other questions find an impressive 72-2 split on the question of whether the gap between the rich and poor has increased over the past decade, and a series of further questions address what respondents feel should be done about it. A question on mining finds no view to the effect that it has become more or less important to Australia since five years ago, but there is a very strong view that mining exports principally benefit company executives and shareholders. In dealing with budgetary problems, there is a 68-22 split in favour of higher corporate tax and 56-31 in favour of abandoning the parental leave scheme, but 67-21 against cuts to tax concessions in areas like superannuation, 69-21 against for higher income taxes and 81-12 against for cuts to social services, health and education.
Newspoll has had another week off, presumably so its return can be timed to coincide with the resumption of parliament next Tuesday.
You are already in “a pointless a retarded loop of debate”, haven’t you noticed?
Anyway this is boring…
*Insert predictable leftard rants and attacks on HC below this line*
Well apart from that last poll for John Howard run by the AEC? How far back have you got to go to find another PM that lost their seat?? 🙂
I heard an ABC presenter say today that she felf sorry for Africans because of the devastation caused by Ebola
This made me think:
Total population of Africa = 1,100,000,000
Number infected with Ebola < 10,000
Or less than 1:1,000,000
This is still a very limited and localised epidemic which should be controllable with quarantine but we have a disproportionate media response not helped by today's WHO ennouncement. This is apparently the greatest threat to world health since the swine flu panic of 2008.
500
Hash Convicts
nothing remotely political…nothing resembling debate…just a belch….
#503 Your talking about 1 poll? You must have missed the part about ‘across a 40 year period’, this means an overall statistical analysis of all PM’s during the period they were PM, I thought that bit was clear.
#501 So you don’t understand the concept of a debate?
*wonders how many times he will have to repeat it until Hash Convict’s sense of humour kicks in*
#505 Not that I didn’t mention it is not worth debating on this page already from a right position… sorry, but that is as sharp as a butter knife.
*wonders how many times I have to hear it before the person saying it realises his humor has no logical tie to anything that has been said…*
The more I get to repeat it the better the joke becomes.
I’m sure it does…. *cough*
You’re clearly of the same mind as I am in seeing it grow ;).
Ahh, but as they say, it was the one that mattered. 🙂
#513 You do understand what a statistical analysis across a 40 year period means right?
Hahah! Listen to that useless plonker Hockey getting PWNED on UK TV over CO2 emissions.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/absolutely-ridiculous-joe-hockey-denies-australia-is-dirtiest-greenhouse-gas-emitter-in-oecd-20141014-115q9g.html
He begged the Chinese, the Japoanese, the Koreans, the British, the Ukranians and now he’s begging the Iraqis…
Pathetic.
Oakshott
You are a medico so you have no excuse to be so silly. Eboloa is NOW in its early exponential rapid rise stage. This week alone has seen the no of Ebola deaths jumping from 3500 to 4500 – ie so next week we can assume perhaps 6000 deaths and the week after 8000. By the end of November at the rate we are going it would seem likely there will be 10-15,000 deaths and 20-30,000 infected. Your figures are not so rosy when it is chance of being infected is 1:55,000. By Xmas the Figures are more likely to be 20,000 dead and 40,000 infected ie a ration closer to 1:30,000.
If left unchecked the deaths will increase exponentially so that by the end of March 2016 the chances of being infected with Ebola in Afica will be below 1:4,000 and by June the chances more like 1:500. By the end of 2016 more 1:10.
It means you’ve conducted t-tests to establish that the differences between the relevant sets of numbers are statistically significant. Though I don’t think that is in fact what you mean.
Drug Crims, i think you are mixing me up with someone else?
Hash Convicts
Ok, how about, “You are a douche bag”?
Hah Convicts
What is your idea of good policy for the medical use of marijauna?
And, in the spirit of individual freedom and self determination, should adults have the right to take any substance they like, as long as they do not operate machinery?
Do you favour the dignity of risk for people with disabilities who want to undertake dangerous activities, such as base-jumping, and should the tax-payer fund supports for this?
Do you believe in state funded sex workers for people with disabilities to have fulfilling sexual recreation, as they do in Sweden?
Do you think Australia’s best contribution to cutting dangerous emissions to not to introduce an ETS, but to simply leave all our coal in the ground?
521
I think you have confused Sweden with the Netherlands. Sweden has an abolitionist policy.
http://www.amnesty.org/en/news/saudi-arabia-appalling-death-sentence-against-shi-cleric-must-be-quashed-2014-10-15
Though I don’t think that is in fact what you mean.
A 40 year analysis conducted about all the PM’s based off one PM and one poll was the reply I recieved. Similar to me talking about a car and getting a reply about a boat.
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Good Morning
think the East West link is a lot less certain to go ahead today
http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/victoria-state-election-2014/sacked-senior-government-adviser-don-coulson-to-tell-court-of-mp-porn-ring-run-from-treasury-place-offices/story-fnocxssc-1227091913312
Morning all
Guytaur
The tories in Vic appear to be under a little pressure
Members of the investment community have reacted with shock to the Abbott govt’s attacks on ANU’s divestment decision http://www.theaustralian.com.au/higher-education/investment-sector-shocked-by-attack-on-anu/story-e6frgcjx-1227090486678 …
victoria
I suspect the image of your tax payer paid MP being a porn actor is going to have a bit of an impact in the polls 👿
guytaur
It is going a little pear shaped for Napthine and Co
http://www.roymorgan.com/morganpoll
Another questionable issue for the Napthine govt
Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/victoria-state-election-2014/schools-undervalued-by-state-says-watchdog-20141015-116dmf.html#ixzz3GFL4XTXa
Good morning Dawn Patrollers.
Peter FitzSimons – It’s time for the Wallabies to have a good look at themselves. Peter’s not happy.
http://www.smh.com.au/sport/the-fitz-files/wallabies-its-time-to-handle-the-truth-20141015-116flh.html
Putin “unlikely” to Meet Abbott until times are “more diplomatic and unpleasant”.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/15/vladimir-putin-unlikely-to-meet-with-tony-abbott-at-g20-says-kremlin
Sounds like ALL of them are drama queens.
http://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/celebrity/private-sydney/paul-howes-drama-takes-centre-stage-at-opera-house-ball-20141015-116h5t.html
Will Abbott’s stance on coal hurt him at the polls?
http://thenewdaily.com.au/news/2014/10/15/fossil-fuel-fixation-threatens-abbott-comeback/
The unrelenting campaign against Clover Moore continues.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/illjudged-politics-underlies-clover-attacks-20141015-11681u.html
Economics Nobel laureate challenges Hockeynomics.
http://www.independentaustralia.net/politics/politics-display/nobel-prize-for-economics-challenges-hockeynomics,6997
Compensation reforms in the APS are “harsh and unjust”. Abetz continues his work.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/public-service/public-service-workers-compensation-reforms-are-harsh-and-unjust-say-labor-20141015-116idm.html
Has Germany’s bubble finally burst?
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/10/16/global-news/has-germanys-bubble-finally-burst
Heath Aston – No case for the new anti-terror laws.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/muslim-groups-lawyers-and-academics-call-for-foreign-fighters-bill-to-be-put-on-ice-20141015-116hyz.html
Enough to make you sick!
http://www.theage.com.au/comment/uniforms-a-weapon-in-the-school-marketing-wars-20141015-115n0a.html
Section 2 . . .
Wayne Swan – Australia is a leaner when it comes to climate change.
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/oct/15/australia-a-laggard-rather-than-leader-on-climate-change-says-wayne-swan
Will the US free trade agreement hurt us when it comes to health?
https://theconversation.com/coalitions-policy-bodes-ill-for-health-in-free-trade-negotiations-32575
Man bites dog.
http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/workcover-nsw-bullying-wayne-butler-receives-belated-apology-for-poor-treatment-and-dismissal-20141016-116jx1.html
Are the polls getting to Napthine?
http://www.theage.com.au/victoria/premier-denis-napthine-reportedly-seen-ripping-into-david-davis-in-victorian-parliament-20141016-3i3mc.html
Microchip RFID implants next?
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/opposition-grows-to-storage-of-photo-and-biometric-data-20141015-116lur.html
The Russian PM gives Abbott a coathanger.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/dmitry-medvedev-calls-on-tony-abbott-to-tone-down-comments-after-threat-to-shirtfront-vladimir-putin-20141015-116mtc.html
The G20 is no place for shirtfronting.
http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/dmitry-medvedev-calls-on-tony-abbott-to-tone-down-comments-after-threat-to-shirtfront-vladimir-putin-20141015-116mtc.html
Baird’s donation reforms are flawed says this SMH editorial.
http://www.smh.com.au/comment/smh-editorial/bairds-donations-reform-flawed-risky-and-halfhearted-20141015-11683d.html
Section 3 . . .
Michael Leunig gets down and dirty on Abbott.

A brilliant effort from David Pope.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/david-pope-20120214-1t3j0.html
Ron Tandberg says it all.
http://www.smh.com.au/photogallery/federal-politics/cartoons/ron-tandberg-20090910-fixc.html
Last night Mad as Hell was a laugh. Especially the latter part of the show
Watching Shaun Micallef’s MAD AS HELL Series 4 Ep 4 in iview
http://iview.abc.net.au/programs/shaun-micallefs-mad-as-hell/LE1404V004S00
More bad news for Murdoch
@ZDNet: Look out, cable TV, Netflix! Here comes HBO to the Internet http://t.co/kChYJndXa3
Morning all. Thanks Victoria for those delightful headlines about Victoria’s charming State government. Sometimes the level of stupidity evident in Canberra can be so great we forget about the idiots in some State parliaments.
Speaking of which, the SA opposition has come out with a truly breathtaking demand that the government apologise for wasted millions of $ resulting from the delay of the Gawler line electrification.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-10-15/sa-liberal-party-demands-apology-from-government/5816560?WT.ac=statenews_sa
What is breathtaking is that the waste occurred directly because the Abbott government, contrary to past convention, pulled the Federal funds from an in-progress rail project. The State warned of the implications, but they did it anyway. Of course, since Abbott and Hockey also required that the State contribute funds to Federally (Liberal) promised road projects, there was nothing left to pay the balance of the rail work with.
Oh Dear! Does not sound good
@DailyMail: Nurses caring for Ebola patient Thomas Eric Duncan didn’t wear hazmat suits for two days http://t.co/VCWZlLm4ji
http://www.theage.com.au/world/ebola-outbreak-race-to-notify-131-other-passengers-on-flight-that-carried-second-infected-nurse-20141016-116pfb.html
BK thanks for the links as always. The story on Germany is just the tip of the iceberg:
[Has Germany’s bubble finally burst?
http://www.businessspectator.com.au/article/2014/10/16/global-news/has-germanys-bubble-finally-burst%5D
Paul Krugman had a piece a few days ago about the risk of the whole of Europe sliding into another recession. Their economic policy has been very foolish, and deflation is occurring, which often causes people in debt to go into bankruptcy.
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/10/11/europanic-2-0/?_php=true&_type=blogs&module=BlogPost-Title&version=Blog%20Main&contentCollection=Opinion&action=Click&pgtype=Blogs®ion=Body&_r=0
Of course the ECB is dominated by German bankers. They make great cars, but German bankers do not make great financial policy. They think running Europe is the same as running Germany. It is not.
The treatment of Queensland Doctors suspended for talking to media over ebola practise may be part of Senate Inquiry into Newman Government
The second Ebola case in a Texas hospital really does sound bad. Unfortunately it is also consistent with this Wired article “What would stop the spread of Ebola” which is highly critical of the low priority given to public health and infectious disease generally. Lack of training and lack of equipment from lack of funds is the problem.
http://www.wired.com/2014/10/ebola-ic-research/
How petty!
Putin not exactly being pleasant himself –
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/putin-warns-nuclear-power-consequences-if-attempts-blackmail-russia-dont-stop
‘Open for business
can mean open for rorting Australians.
We stand to lose our equity
Netflix thumped overnight on poor earnings – down 24%
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2014-10-15/netflix-obliterated-after-guiding-half-expected-q4-eps-streaming-adds-hit-brick-wall
Abbott’s diplomacy tactics. Andrew Dyson
Victory is now certain. The Seppos have at last found a manly man name for the current Operation Pointless Bombing.
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11343261
It would be great if we had a right wing poster who came on here to actually debate policy, wouldn’t it?
There must BE arguments – other than “Labor bad” – for at least some of the actions taken by the Federal government, but we don’t get to hear them.
Instead, the right wing idea of debate is to criticise the other side, rather than to defend their own agenda.
It would add greatly to the knowledge of all of us here if someone took the time and patience to take us through the thinking – and the evidence – supporting government proposals such as their PPL, Direct Action, the Medicare co-payment, University deregulation (come on – there must be actual arguments supporting that one!) and denying young people the dole.
In the vacuum created by no one taking the field, of course we overlook the worthiness of these policies. We need the guidance of a greater intellect, and I encourage any right winger who feels they are up to the task to provide it.