Essential Research’s fortnightly rolling aggregate ticks a point to the Coalition this week, putting Labor’s two-party lead at 52-48. The only change on the primary vote is a one point gain for the Coalition to 40%, with the balance being lost in rounding. This leaves Labor on 39%, the Greens on 10% and Palmer United on 4%.
Also:
• The poll finds a decline in climate change skepticism, with 56% attributing climate change to human activity and 30% to normal fluctuation, respectively the equal highest and lowest results out of nine going back to 2009; and 52% professing greater concern about it than they felt two years ago, versus 9% less concerned. However, only 12% favour an emissions trading scheme out of three options to deal with it, with 50% backing incentives for renewable energy and 10% the government’s direct action policy.
• There appears a rather indelicate mindset so far as the balance of freedom and security is concerned: 50% want more restrictions on “rights and freedoms for some people” in the interests of national security, with 34% opting for “current laws strike the right balance” (oddly, there is no option for less restrictions); and 59% support detention without charge in relation to terrorism allegations, with 24% opposed. However, 71% are concerned about privacy and surveillance of social media, compared with 25% not concerned.
• 53% profess themselves concerned about ABC funding cuts, compared with 39% not concerned.
Even going to war can’t save Abbott.
From previous thread:
Turkey is interesting.
Apart from Israel it has the most effective boots in the ME. It dearly wanted to intervene in Northern Iraq last time around but was pressured out of it by the US and Turkey’s NATO partners.
It wanted to intervene in Syria earlier but was pressured out of it by the US and Turkey’s NATO partners.
Theologically, it leans towards ISIS.
But Turkey has the Kurds as its number one existential threat.
So Turkey lets ISIS rout the Syrian Kurds (Turkey is accepting Syrian Kurdish refugees but is preventing arms and supplies from reaching Kurdish Kobane, currently besieged by IS fighters) and chase them into Turkey.
The question is, once the Syrian Kurds are vanquished is it THEN time for Turkey to intervene with boots on the ground?
You would have to say that once Turkey invades Syria, it will not be leaving any time soon.
Some enterprising journalist should ask Mr Abbott what he expects from Turkey. After all, whatever Turkey does will have a far bigger impact on any outcome than what Mr Abbott does.
mh
No doubt some enterprising MSM journalist will be asking that since humanitarian considerations are THE considerations, what does he intend doing about humanitarian crisis in (here append list of humanitarian crises du jour).
fran
[I feel sorry for the employees and scandalised that there can be people who could suppose that Islamic State would be running a construction company here with a corporate logo. ]
‘bin Laden Constructions’ signs were common in London in the 80’s and 90’s.
CTar1
A bin Ladin rellie, son or bro , must have been really pissed Osama . A bit of a fashionistas he had been about to launch an upmarket Bin Laden brand aftershave range.
about to launch an upmarket Bin Laden brand aftershave
Osama saved them from themselves
Shaving?
Were they girls?
Completely off-topic but here is a beautiful double rainbow seen from a helicopter over Cottesloe Beach.
[ You would have to say that once Turkey invades Syria, it will not be leaving any time soon. ]
ie taking it back.
Forgot the link: http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/astropix.html
[ Kinkajou
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about to launch an upmarket Bin Laden brand aftershave ]
Bit like when Saddam’s sons where hold up in a house etc which was then blown up with them in it. One of the sons was called Uday.
Jay Leno produced a *new* product on his show that night called ‘Oil of Uday’ a spiff on Oil of Ulay.
[1785
Fran Barlow
And now for some genuine stupid behaviour …
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/marketing/43976-isis-australia-employees-cop-abuse-in-case-of-mistaken-identity.html#.VCoshLU6mlA.twitter
Apparently people working for a construction company called ISIS have copped abuse as terrorists … They have stopped wearing the company logo as a safety measure.]
This is a pertinent example of how “knowledge” (properly, belief) of violence or potential violence – in this case a mistaken belief – becomes socially distributed and changes behaviour.
The legal measures so far passed by the Parliament are mainly confined to enabling the acquisition of information (intelligence) about exactly this matter – violence or potential violence with political or social dimensions.
So far, no-one has mounted a convincing argument against the collection and analysis of information pertaining to such violence. Really, is there any such argument to be made? Why would we not want to avail ourselves of this information – information that can be used to protect not only particular individuals but our political culture more generally from the effects of violence?
Mr ABC has just confirmed his invitation for moi to attend and be part of the audience for QandA next Monday Night in Rockhampton.
Re a question – Instead of trying to ask one I might just tell Dutton where he can go and something he can well and truly get
Re Jeffemu @13: you could ask him why he hid his plans for the co-payment before the election. That would put him on the spot, even though he will waffle and dissemble and not answer the question.
M Emu
Can you wear an unusual head covering so we can identify you? …oh hang on
From previous thread:
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Fran Barlow
It is hard to imagine that ISIS will triumph.
In many respects, they already have]
I agree that in many respects ISIS has triumphed.
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jeffemu
You could ask him why the LNP want to create a two-tier health system – a system in which those who most need access to public health care will be the most likely to be excluded from it?
Why do they want to do it? Is it because they assign a lower value to the health and well-being of the many in order to protect the bank accounts of the few?
I agree that in many respects ISIS has triumphed
Beyond their wildest dreams.
They are medievil popstars and the John Paul Ringo tag is not ridiculous…the panic is just like I remember Beatlemania.
Kin hardly wait to see them at the Southern Cross
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Dee]
We are probably the only two here that agree on anything 🙂
Bear forces at work in markets for metals and ores….
http://www.macrobusiness.com.au/2014/09/asias-industrial-production-shocker/
[Some more troubling news on the export front for Australia as an Asian regional slowdown seems underway, with Japan and South Korea reporting some woeful stats this morning.
The August print for Japanese industrial production came in well under expectations at -2.9% year on year and coupled with a core CPI read that is hovering just above 1%, it pays to ask the question if Abenomics is actually working.
More from David Scutt at Marketscuttlebutt:
South Korea logged a monthly decline of 3.8%, the sharpest contraction seen since December 2008, with the annual rate sliding to -2.8% from +3.9% in July. Coupled with the ugly Chinese print for August, +6.8% YY, a level not seen since December 2008, and you get a good understanding of why commodity prices continue to weaken aside from renewed USD-strength.
If you strip away the extremes of volatility caused by easy money flooding the commodity derivative complex, it still reveals the basic supply/demand dynamic that’s been in play since the start of civilization.
Its hard to deny the fact that alongside iron ore, which has dropped some 45% from its peak, the all important economic commodity copper is now down over 30% in a near two year long decline:]
[Fran Barlow
Posted Tuesday, September 30, 2014 at 3:06 pm | PERMALINK
And now for some genuine stupid behaviour …
http://www.smartcompany.com.au/marketing/43976-isis-australia-employees-cop-abuse-in-case-of-mistaken-identity.html#.VCoshLU6mlA.twitter
Apparently people working for a construction company called ISIS have copped abuse as terrorists … They have stopped wearing the company logo as a safety measure.
]
The whole thing is ridiculous. How about the people living in postcode 4660 (Isis Central, Isis River, Nth & Sth Isis)? Or the Isis Central sugar mill that dates from 1897?
Or the 8yo girl called Isis (worried parents were apparently on TV)?
Certain politicians and media types who stir up community anxiety care little about the collateral damage in these cases.
Brandis stuffs up his Senate procedures, should be Odgered. 😆
After all the fear mongering and ‘terror’ headlines overflowing from the MSM in the last 2 weeks, we see no significant movement in the Essential Poll, with a rounding up of the primary votes yielding a slight uptick for the Coalition.
We won’t see the Morgan multi mode results from last weekend and the one upcoming until next week, along with Newspoll.
Despite the heavy lifting done by the Murdoch Circus, our PM remains in the doldrums, becalmed and awaiting a war zephyr to put wind in his flagging sails, and from the published polling results so far, he’ll still be waiting for the longed for boost in 2016.
850% + Investment Returns
Too good to be true?
Should Crikey be advertising this sort of thing?
Fran Barlow@1785
I wonder if the presence of the ISIS building along Queens Road in Melbourne strike fear to some of the drivers on Queens Road, or to some of the joggers across in Albert Park.
I might also add that the workers for the contract cleaning and facility management company ISS may also cop some abuse from these uninformed members of the public.
rua
[Brandis stuffs up his Senate procedures]
Brandis can stuff up anything.
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[So far, no-one has mounted a convincing argument against the collection and analysis of information pertaining to such violence. Really, is there any such argument to be made? Why would we not want to avail ourselves of this information – information that can be used to protect not only particular individuals but our political culture more generally from the effects of violence?]
Good question, why should information about violence by our goverment against us be protected?
Bummer, just found out that Dutton isn’t going to be on the panel. Well when you think of it, that has to be a win for me.
Boerwar, whatever it is that you’re talking about, I dare say it’s the work of Google Adwords, and is quite probably there because of some search term you’ve entered recently.
Meanwhile, in the real world, according to the SMH front page:
[Kyle and Jackie O lose top spot
3:45pm Sydney’s neck-and-neck FM breakfast radio rankings battle takes another twist.
Contains: total comments13]
Amazing that 13 people took the trouble to comment.
Erica betz should maybe rethink his tactics on trying to threaten PUP. Does he not realise he needs them to pass legislation?
[The poll finds a decline in climate change skepticism, with 56% attributing climate change to human activity and 30% to normal fluctuation, respectively the equal highest and lowest results out of nine going back to 2009; and 52% professing greater concern about it than they felt two years ago, versus 9% less concerned. However, only 12% favour an emissions trading scheme out of three options to deal with it, with 50% backing incentives for renewable energy and 10% the government’s direct action policy.]
So many believe that we are causing Climate Change but few wants something to actually be done about it? People must still be buying that “let others do something about it” or “our impact is small enough that we should wait the bigger players to take action”.
[50% want more restrictions on “rights and freedoms for some people”]
I wonder if among the people polled, some people mistake “some people” for meaning specific racial groups rather than people who might flag a risk to national security.
William Bowe@29
BW should stop looking at dodgy investment deals.
ruawake
But but bit before the budget hit the Senate and there were the first rumblings Abbott proudly declared that Erica was “leading the charm offensive in the Senate” . So far Erica has aced doing “offensive” but stumped on how to do charm
[Bushfire Bill
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Meanwhile, in the real world, according to the SMH front page:
Kyle and Jackie O lose top spot
3:45pm Sydney’s neck-and-neck FM breakfast radio rankings battle takes another twist.
]
What is it about breakfast radio in Sydney that allows the worst kind of presenters (including Jones) to top the ratings?
[What is it about breakfast radio in Sydney that allows the worst kind of presenters (including Jones) to top the ratings?]
If I knew that I’d be on breakfast radio. I’d be terrible, but that seems OK.
http://www.antihate.vic.gov.au/
Anti-hate Spray – Removes Hate Fast
PUP get their enquiry into Campbell Newman.
[Senate divided on Minister Abetz’s amendment: ayes – 28; noes – 31 NEGATIVED]
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So far, no-one has mounted a convincing argument against the collection and analysis of information pertaining to such violence. Really, is there any such argument to be made? Why would we not want to avail ourselves of this information – information that can be used to protect not only particular individuals but our political culture more generally from the effects of violence?
Good question, why should information about violence by our goverment against us be protected?]
It’s not. The implied proposition that the Government is or may be implicated in carrying out political violence against the public is plainly false.
The Government is, however, about to become actively involved in violent operations in the territories of the former Iraq and (possibly) Syria. Some Australian citizens are already involved as combatants and in other ways in this violence. These are certainly matters about which we should be informed, not least because they will have effects on us for many years to come.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/news/nsw/life-under-the-muslim-veil-our-reporters-day-shrouded-and-afraid-on-familiar-streets/story-fni0cx12-1227073346610
This must be what Toorak Toff “joked” about yesterday.
Julia Gillard on the Drum now
ruawake@38
What amendment was Betz trying to put in?
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[The implied proposition that the Government is or may be implicated in carrying out political violence against the public is plainly false.]
You, personally, can gaurantee that the government is not taking (lawful) action against citizens that those citizens might consider harmful? Right now? How about in the future?
Let’s give you right now.
In the future, you are unlikely to be informed if they are.
[It’s not.]
It is. These laws protect reporting of actions by our government that are lawful but would not be accepted by our society if they knew about them.
“@CliveFPalmer: Great result from @PalmerUtdParty senators in securing a Senate Inquiry to investigate the activities of @theqldpremier #auspol”
[Boerwar, whatever it is that you’re talking about, I dare say it’s the work of Google Adwords, and is quite probably there because of some search term you’ve entered recently.
by William Bowe]
An advertisement for some investment or other. As for search term, ‘Greens’ Defence Policy’ may have triggered an offer touting 850% returns.
Who knows?
This is it:
http://www.googleadservices.com/pagead/aclk?sa=L&ai=CVK8wcl4qVMGwJIm18AXL8oL4D9fdh8UFj9O2krABwI23ARABIIzT8gpQ3uX_gf7_____AWCl-IiAjAGgAbmIsOADyAEBqAMByAPDBKoE2AFP0IWLlKTuiC3yJYgwn8Sa0iXOBMXmeB3E-3GDeenlXbOxSdmKqsd72ms8uM4fAvsLRjKl5psYPzF3qdlynw_aGQFQ76QVtZmOuw8h1vSD6FhIYAxjGGmgl0gAXT-uJmSjAQDeJ7YibAiPRgbE24EkWw4moMLDF1u_vsI8nNISDUQsYO6GiU0AVN6ByiDPFMMfYfDmVUiXH_X9qJv0OYMDtibwzjti1nHD_gcaiYWR7f-TNAC_DFlRH0XDmpZ9G8S09jgkQt3qibi_-hihrE3tlFmKu2KY9KmIBgGAB6_3zx8&num=1&cid=5GhoacDf1e-GixfGD5unGASb&sig=AOD64_3X2Z56dPF_fDZcnrUz5YWrotxisA&client=ca-pub-6993608102179164&adurl=http://www.Private-Client-Group-Research.Com&nm=28&mb=2&bg=!A0Skc8OoWYr-YQIAAABNUgAAAD0qASXjI3_B_yToKXBroiTFxPtZiFBAkn0N3Dd7ndSRRyrrRjyIq9N_Fa7WHzYfuXR22gcSht4Nc2XM95DjptesEJeRoWgvgtW79EIuGL4Ke_KSCE3s0N7q3thayb6C3Y9M7GU-VmHJjSk_27XS1czcwKVxQCKWvDvEHwcvXxY2HrbIKjYCAUYkYHTcD38Kalf3iM4pAVkCzFXnhzMKIPHma8Pp4vwNrfP8cj_7Ck7c8EkfUpiPM4XwZsczXRgK0JVzDQSR1YVtXsLfHC0WH5h2-70Y5MAeaOfk2XY2h7Pz2PZ0_DKN7Jb6vhdZob8IfalE9wEQBPstNQvHO8RPQjDPgyF_CjmIpClOT8CGbwADec6rfqTRwdoNlB3M7y0HB1-GguORHEF5bQ
Our democracy?
Death by a thousand small coups.
[What amendment was Betz trying to put in?]
An earlier start date for the terms of reference, so it would include Anna Bligh’s Govt.
The Greens backed this last week, but apparently have got some guarantee from PUP on other stuff.
I wouldn’t click on that link.
Julia Baird doing a better interview of Julia Gillard than Ray Martin did a better interview than Ray Martin did.