A paucity of new data last week caused Labor’s lead on the BludgerTrack poll aggregate to inflate further off the momentum established by the previous week’s post-budget blowout. It now moderates somewhat with the arrival of new numbers from Newspoll and Morgan, together with the always reliable Essential Research, although the first two recorded only minor changes on their previous polls and Essential actually moved in Labor’s favour. Both major parties are found to have lost ground on the primary vote, although Labor somewhat more so, and Palmer United has once again reached a new high. The biggest gain is for “others”, but it should be noted that this measure amounts to the residue after trend-based determinations are made for the four principal parties, which causes it to be rather volatile.
The 0.6% shift to the Coalition on two-party preferred produces a net change of two seats on the seat projection, with Labor losing one seat each in Victoria, Queensland and Western Australia, while gaining one in Tasmania on the back of a strong Morgan result. Of note in the state breakdowns are a substantial moderation of the swing in Queensland over the last few weeks, as a flood of bad data for the Coalition from April and early May washes out of the system, and a surge to Labor in South Australia. The latter in particular may well just be a statistical artifact, but it interestingly coincides with trouble for the Liberals at state level.
Newspoll has furnished BludgerTrack with new data for the leadership ratings, but the story here is similar to that on voting intention last week, with the latest shifts driven largely by the trend set in place by the post-budget polling. The changes on approval offer a muted reflection of this week’s more moderate numbers from Newspoll, but the lead to Bill Shorten as preferred prime minister has overshot the data points which have set the current trend in place, making it all but certain that it will reduce when the next new numbers are added.
confessions
[ Lots of ratcheted up anger, silly vendettas and shrill outrage in that space as well.]
You summed it up perfectly.
fess
I think you never bothered with the Drum but Dean’s presence on that show always had me reaching for the mute.
Saw this on twitter
[BREAKING: Qld Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney has referred Clive Palmer to the CMC – full story on @730qld]
K2
To clarify my cherry picking, here are 2 propositions.
1) all war mongers here are men
2) all men are warmongers
In your original comments tonight you assert the second proposition; this is objectionable stereotyping.
Now you appear to be asserting the first, which is quite a different matter and may well be true
I have no problem with the first proposition, especially if anyone cares to count up the comments to show that all posters were men.
psyclaw
[Of course these events happen in peacetime, but certainly not to the same extent as in war, when absolutely no protection by law and order prevails for anyone.]
Sure, but BW’s saying we can’t understand unless we experience it.
In my experience a lot of those things happened outside of wartime. And the only retribution was if you happened to know the local cops.
There was mass corruption in our police force, from the beginning.
Or does history only refer to war time crimes and war time paraphernalia?
I’m sorry for what BW experienced. Yet, he has told us time and again that part of what he experienced was slave labour. That is, he had servants who waited on him hand and foot. And he liked that.
What he didn’t like was when that was taken away from him.
And now he tries to tell us how easy we had it during war time.
No, we didn’t. My folks certainly didn’t.
But they didn’t try to tell anyone else how hard they did it because someone else had it easier.
Bout time BW woke up and accepted that his family made a motsa in Indonesia and there was no wonder his family wasn’t safe when war broke out.
Nothing worse than slaves being pissed off with being treated badly.
Just watching the D Day coverage on 24, dreading the moment Dear Leader shows up. Please tell me they’ve sent him elsewhere.
WB
[It would seem this is based on a sample of about 20 people.]
What sort of margin of error are we looking at here?
BW, kezza
I might be missing the context here.
Suddenly the thought of Australian POWs during WW2 have experienced many of this.
[(6) had random members of their families killed or injured]
Gangland wars.
mikeh:
One good thing about Turnbull replacing Abbott as Liberal leader is that we at least wouldn’t be represented by an embarrassing PM overseas.
This conversation reminds me of those Yorkshiremen “Thee were looky. I were brought up in paper bag.” etc.
I’m sure poroti has the link.
victoria:
On a Clive related matter, I noticed earlier reports that he has resigned from his company Mineralogy.
Rua – Success launched in 1984 and is stuffed.
Sirius launched in 2004 and expected to go through to 2020. I expect it to be kept even once the two new ships arrive.
mikehilliard
Triple 😀 Sky showing services commemorating D-Day landing . Lots of footage but no footage of Tones. They helpfully said Tones was “Also in attendance” . Seat ZZ40 I think 🙂
lizzie
You rang 🙂
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe1a1wHxTyo
[What sort of margin of error are we looking at here?]
Large.
vic
Seeney would not know if his testicles dropped off.
fess
Was just thinking same thought earlier today. What would Abbott have to say about death in conflict other than “shit happens”. That would go down like a bomb with the D Day veterans.
poroti
[They helpfully said Tones was “Also in attendance” . Seat ZZ40 I think]
B shit. 😆
ruawake – supply ships are a lot more complicated than just painting an oil tanker grey. That’s essentially what they did with HMAS Sirius, and it took 2 years to convert it into a ship that isn’t actually that good at what it needs to do – because it’s not designed for the conditions and role.
6 years to design and build two fit-for-purpose supply ships is probably pretty normal.
poroti
I knew I could rely on you!
I’m off now. Night.
Everyone has been making fun of the dorky looking, apparently unhappy, Bob Anderson who Cambell Newman is parading as the LNP candidate for the next by election to hit us, Stafford in QLD
@markjs1: .@Can_do_Campbell doing a skit with one of the Chaser boys…
http://t.co/0DY1tEzeg9”
Now what if “Bob” wasn’t really Bob but in fact Jared, With “Bob Anderson” being a trading name?
Fascinating what is being revealed here…
http://nofibs.com.au/2014/06/06/they-call-me-bob-follow-the-mystery-trail-on-the-lnp-candidate-for-staffordvotes-qldaah-qldpol/
wtf
Retweeted by Clive Palmer
Chris O’Brien @COBrienBris 29m
“@MattWordsworth: BREAKING: Qld Deputy Premier @JeffSeeney has referred @CliveFPalmer to the CMC – full story on @730qld”
mikeh:
He would probably utter some idiocy about stopping the boats.
lizzie
Sweet dreams……….are made of this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjlTKHFjG5g
[lizzie
Posted Friday, June 6, 2014 at 7:07 pm | PERMALINK
This conversation reminds me of those Yorkshiremen “Thee were looky. I were brought up in paper bag.” etc.
I’m sure poroti has the link.]
Yeah, well it might remind you of it, but what do you think of it? Do you really think that BW got the worst of the war?
You don’t want to have an opinion, do you? Just in case you upset someone.
Somebody else can fight that battle.
In my family, I was always the one sent onto the frontline. I’ve got many a battle-scar.
Not so much because I was an opinionated son-of-a-bitch, but because I was the one who had the least to lose.
Weren’t they surprised when I survived.
What a load of crap. Oh I forgot while Clive was on our team, but because you asked why I didn’t refer it to the CMC, I now have, after this interview.
My belief that the LNP will win the next election is getting tested.
[Mr Seeney says just after the LNP won office, Mr Palmer approached him wanting corrupt special treatment to advance his mining interests.
He told tonight’s 7.30 Queensland program he alerted Mr Newman, but not the police or the CMC.
“The way things have developed since then I regret that I didn’t report it,” Mr Seeney said.
After the interview Mr Seeney referred the matter to the CMC.]
confessions
Yes i noticed the report too.
Ru
Will you be watching 7.30 program?
A little Jonesy for you.
Alan Jones: The Closet Recordings
Posted on October 5, 2012 by macca
There’s been much ado about Alan Jones lately, insulting the Prime Minister and such. But we tend to forget the essential nature of the man; his monumental ego, his hard-right abrasive politics and his abusive temperament.
Lest we forget, I offer the sample above, compliments of the ABC’s JJJ Hack archive.
I’ll let JJJ Hack do the introduction:
“He says Julia Gillard’s father John ‘died of shame’ because of her political lies… and yesterday had some trouble pushing out a convincing apology. One thing Alan does NOT have trouble doing, is letting his temper fly.
“As advertisers abandon his program and calls for his sacking grow louder, Hack returns to a station favourite: the leaked Alan Jones stuff up tapes.
Sit back and enjoy as Alan curses ‘the f#%!ing dust!’ demands ‘who the f*&$ is Huey Lewis?’ and wonders ‘what’s that poking up like a broken penis for?’”
WARNING: THIS RECORDING (obviously) CONTAINS STRONG LANGUAGE
http://ianmcpherson.com/blog/?p=2706
fess
Oh dear, in the context that’s so funny. 😆
Zoid
Some time ago, Palmer was threatened by Seeney to shut up or we’ll use our powers to go through your business operations like a dose of salts.
Watching Obama speaking at the D-Day service. Still no sighting of the Mad Monk.
How typical of the Liberals –
[Clive Palmer referred to Crime and Misconduct Commission by Queensland’s Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney
Mr Palmer has previously said such corruption claims are a complete fabrication. Photo: Mr Palmer has previously said such corruption claims are a complete fabrication.
Queensland Deputy Premier Jeff Seeney has referred two-year-old corruption allegations against federal MP Clive Palmer to the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC).
Mr Seeney took the step within an hour of speaking to the ABC to defend his decision not to alert police about what he thought were corrupt advances from Mr Palmer.]
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-06/queensland-deputy-premier-jeff-seeney-refers-palmer-to-the-cmc/5506848
[who the f*&$ is Huey Lewis?]
A not unreasonable question.
The ABC must be annoyed that they have to rely on television coverage from people who have never heard of Abbott.
Wilbo
Maaaate in the era of the Abbott it is ….
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LB5YkmjalDg
mikeh:
Don’t laugh. After linking the carbon tax with a veterans-related announcement, it’s a distinct possibility.
The other day I mentioned about two young girls who were raped and hung by their rapists.
I asked if we could perhaps impose sanctions on that country.
I think mexicanbeemer was the only person on here to support that.
Otherwise rape, that happened out of war time, was dismissed or not commented on, by any of you.
Yet again, there’s another Pakistani report on an attempted honour killing.
Okay, these are pretty backward people, but we do have a weapon to play with. Our military hardware.
Stop this carnage, this barbarity, against women, or else.
Fuck or else. Hey as long as we can make money out of selling weaponry, we don’t give a shit about our women, or yours.
If Seeney was sure Clive was dodgy and told The Premier of Qld, why did Newman do absolutely nothing, except dilute the powers of the CMC.
[Former Queensland corruption fighter Tony Fitzgerald has labelled the Newman Government “inexperienced, arrogant fools” over controversial changes to the Crime and Misconduct Commission (CMC).]
I’m not sure disliking the (in)effectiveness of a foreign criminal justice system is really valid grounds for imposing sanctions, kezza.
I demand that our PM be given the chance to give a speech after this one from Obama so all the world learns where we stand
CW – The Alan Jones recordings 😆
kezza2@1186
Somehow I don’t think we supply much military hardware to either country.
India will be jointly producing the PAK-FA aircraft with Russia.
Those crimes were completely abhorrent, but no less so than some that occur in places like the US. But they are crimes and will be dealt with according to domestic law in the first instance.
paaptsef
I hope Abbott is watching & learning how to make an emotive speech without dragging domestic politics into it.
CTar1
The classic Chopper Read calls in to speak to the Parrot on KAK’s program.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3k_3dqcIY24
mikehilliard@1192
I do love your sense of humour… 😆
[Who the *#ck is Huey Lewis?]
I think this explains it best:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vzN3qO-qc8U
[teh_drewski
Posted Friday, June 6, 2014 at 7:33 pm | PERMALINK
I’m not sure disliking the (in)effectiveness of a foreign criminal justice system is really valid grounds for imposing sanctions, kezza.]
Yeah, fine.
Except, when I suggested it, there was the same argument. We can’t do anything about it.
But, in terms on the military industrial complex we can.
We can stop the sale of uranium to India. We can insist on the Indians (or Pakistanis) cleaning up their act regarding women. Or else they can forget uranium sales.
But, hey, we wouldn’t impose such a sanction. Who the fuck cares. Women are a dime a dozen. They’re certainly not worth suspending a uranium contract over. Are they?
Maybe this guy?
Huey Lewis
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Huey Lewis
Huey Lewis 07-05-2009.jpg
Huey Lewis in 2009
Background information
Birth name Hugh Anthony Cregg III
Also known as Hughie Louis (1972–76), Huey Louis (1977–78)
Born July 5, 1950 (age 63)
New York, New York, U.S.
Origin Marin County, California
Genres Rock, blue-eyed soul
Occupations Musician, songwriter, actor
Instruments Vocals, harmonica
Years active 1971–present
Labels Chrysalis, EMI America, Elektra, Jive, Capitol
Associated acts Huey Lewis and the News, Clover, Thin Lizzy, Orleans, King Harvest
Website hueylewis.com
Huey Lewis (born Hugh Anthony Cregg III; July 5, 1950) is an American musician, songwriter, and actor.
Lewis sings lead and plays harmonica for his band, Huey Lewis and the News, in addition to writing or co-writing many of the band’s songs. The band is perhaps best known for their third album, Sports, and their contribution to the soundtrack of the 1985 feature film Back to the Future. Lewis previously played with the band Clover from 1972 to 1979.
poroti
[Chopper Read calls in to speak]
😆
Even funnier, Bemused, is that your obsessive attacks on the previous PM was only ever going to end in tears
Mezzanine #1165
Fair comment.
I think Boerwar’s is touching on a very sensitive issue, that is that there is rape and there is rape+, there is hunger and there is hunger + etc
Probably be (arguably) more preferable to be raped in suburbia, than raped in war, walk outside and then be bombed.