Following on from the thumping Labor lead in last week’s Newspoll, the addition of the latest ReachTEL to the BludgerTrack poll aggregate causes Labor to regain nearly all the ground it lost on the back of last fortnight’s Nielsen. However, with new contrary signals emerging through a shift back to the Coalition in Essential Research, it’s perhaps telling that the two-party trendline (displayed as always on the sidebar) looks as though it’s not sure which way to turn. Labor is now back into majority territory on the national seat projection, having picked up three seats each in New South Wales, Victoria and Queensland and a further one in the territories (i.e. Solomon). It’s interesting to note that the state breakdowns show emphatic swings to Labor except where they govern at state level, at least until next Saturday’s elections. On the primary vote, Labor makes a gain this week directly at the expense of the Coalition, while the Palmer United Party is up slightly on a post-election low last week. There is no new data for leadership ratings this week.
The modern tragedy for Australia is not that we have an increasingly uneducated right-wing stupid-hardline party running the country, it is that the opposition to that state of affairs is run by absolute politically incompetent morons, who in the 21st century are a hundred years displaced.
Well…….ALP PMs getting knifed (either by infighting or dumping by GG).
Better?
[Perhaps Howard’s win might be about wealth creation that occurred during those years.]
Perhaps it might also be about there being way more Labor PMs during the period surveyed than coalition PMs, meaning that coalition-leaning voters are more likely to coalesce around Howard.
Either way, who cares? We all knew eons ago that Howardia was well received in retrospect by the electorate, hence Abbott’s aping of the man and willingness in opposition to cast himself as a Howard throw-back.
But Tone don’t play that game anymore now they are in govt.
It is quite interesting that among ALP voters:
Howard basically ties with Rudd and beats Keating, Whitlam and Gillard.
Only Hawke clearly beats Howard among ALP voters.
[They should do the poll from Menzies on]
According to Mumble Essential did the poll but going back to Chifley.
[#Essential Poll Aust’s best PM: Howard 39 Hawke 14 Rudd 8 Whitlam 8 Keating 7 Gillard 4 Abbott 3 Fraser 3 #auspol]
Well that just confirms my view that voters are largely dumb.
[They should do the poll from Menzies on]
Harold would score 1/10 for swimming skills and judgement.
Actually ET that poll does not tell us much. If you add the votes you have Lib PM 45 and labor 42. Not much difference.
All it really shows is that amongst Liberal voters Howard is very much preferred over Fraser or Abbott, whereas Labor voters are more evenly spread. This is not really news.
Interesting that Rudd is so far ahead of Gillard. The PB world view must find that incredibly uncomfortable.
Also:
Only two thirds of ALP voters chose an ALP Prime Minister (vs 80% of LNP voters picking a LNP PM)
On the ABC Drive program this evening Police Commissioner O’Callaghan stated that the witness who reported the driver of the erratically driven vehicle as looking like Buswell was thought to be “joking”.
So they knew it appeared to be Buswell, knew it was a State Government vehicle being driven, (the kind that Buswell drives), knew it was located where (obviously) the perpetrator lived, located the vehicle, saw the damage, and did naf all about it.
Don’t tell me the police did not have 24 hour contact with the office responsible for government vehicles.
What a stinking pile of manure.
silmaj@3246
Or the increase in household debt. 😀
[WeWantPaul
Posted Monday, March 10, 2014 at 9:33 pm | PERMALINK
Interesting that Rudd is so far ahead of Gillard. The PB world view must find that incredibly uncomfortable.]
I wasn’t touching that with a 10 foot pole! :devil:
[Interesting that Rudd is so far ahead of Gillard. The PB world view must find that incredibly uncomfortable.]
I don’t know why you’d think that.
While interesting, diverting and entertaining, the “Let’s vote on the best PM in the last 50 years” is heavily influenced by who participates and who can make any kind of judgement.
I would wager that 99% of the population under 40 would not even know who Menzies was. Many would struggle to remember any of Frazer, Keating or Hawke.
I would even guess many under 25 could not even name the current PM or the one before.
This game is a bit like pondering the “best fast bowler of all time” or the “best batsman of all time” stuff.
However, it does make a change of reading the tea leaves or examining the gizzards of chooks to predict the future.
No harm in it and totally useless in any which way.
Did anyone else notice how Mod Lib cleverly steered the topic away from Liberal Party horseshit to something more palatable to him/her self?
[Fulvio Sammut
….What a stinking pile of manure.]
It took a decade to charge Thomson for his $100k splurge….not to mention Obeid!
I am not sure why you would get so worked up about a story I have not even heard about other than the references here!
WeWantPaul
Posted Monday, March 10, 2014 at 9:33 pm | PERMALINK
Interesting that Rudd is so far ahead of Gillard. The PB world view must find that incredibly uncomfortable.
-must have short memory. i remember this being a rudd fan club
Perhaps those voting for John Howard thought they were voting for the actor of the same name. 👿
Doesn’t make sense otherwise.
It also just shows that Howard was superior than Abbott.
Abbott being below Gillard Mod Lib.
[I don’t know why you’d think that.]
Because so many here have an obsessive hate of Rudd that manifests itself in all sorts of weird posts and theories, that makes me worry for their mental health.
Also Gillard is worshipped as an infallible goddess by many of the same people.
But if that poll doesn’t concern them all is good in lala land I guess.
funny thinking of ex PMs – they move on, and do very well out of it … and the troopers, who hang on in the wings hour after day after months in places like PB … what was it all about, 2007, 2009, 2010, 2013 and all in between. it this the best we could hope for???
[-must have short memory. i remember this being a rudd fan club]
ROFLMAO … you need a better memory
still laughing, if this was a Rudd fanclub Bemused would be a revered and adored poster. I’m not saying he isn’t but he does seem to be swimming upstream against a really strong current quite often.
Ooh….Brandis says it’s everyone’s right to express an opinion without interference from government.
[zoidlord
Posted Monday, March 10, 2014 at 9:37 pm | PERMALINK
It also just shows that Howard was superior than Abbott.
Abbott being below Gillard Mod Lib.]
I can’t understand how anyone could decide that Abbott has been the best PM that Australia has ever had after 6 months with hardly any sitting time!
He hasn’t done anything, on what basis would he be best PM?
i think the md tsar have overplayed his hand. he lack negotiating skills – like someone in oz – his motivation are transparent, to unsettle then seize … yes it seems he did have baltic state in sites – send him to siberia this meglomanical psychopath. I’ve been ashamed to hear pro putin stuff on this site …
3262
Yes debt did rise. Many ordinary folks decided in those years to take risks,buy extra property or invest in shares. A lot of money was made hence continuos budget surpluses. If you are asked in a poll about better Pm that will all get taken into account.
[He hasn’t done anything, on what basis would he be best PM?]
But ironically what he has done has been so diabolically bad he could easily be named the worst PM without fear. As mumble said many silly voters will forget what an incompetent lying clown he has been over this first short period if he has a magnificent three term reign.
@Mod Lib/3276
And it took you this long to find out?
He hasn’t done anything, on what basis would he be best PM?
I think the 60,000+ who are now becoming unemployed are thinking he’s done more than enough to wreck the place!
wewantpaul
no you need a small sprinkle of irony
but i miss those days stirring the blog with any mention of kev. of course he came through and almost pulled it off. got the timing wrong, hubris beat him in the end
Everything@3276
Ha! Just wait till he does something and watch him sink lower.
It will have people pining for the good old days with Julia. 😛
CRAIG PAUL ROBERTS REAGAN’S ASST TREAURER ON WAR
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He looks at the way the warmonghers in the Pentagon and the CIA will lie and deceive the US media in their ongoing plans for yet more wars (remembert Iraq ? REMEMBER LIBYA ?) agaInst all who stand in the way of the US Empire’s Hegemony
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2014/03/05/propaganda-rules-news-paul-craig-roberts/
I think the numbers in the sidebar clearly indicate what people think of Abbott.
His 6 months has been the worse performance of an Aussie PM in history.
[AussieAchmed
Posted Monday, March 10, 2014 at 9:45 pm | PERMALINK
He hasn’t done anything, on what basis would he be best PM?
I think the 60,000+ who are now becoming unemployed are thinking he’s done more than enough to wreck the place!]
What has Abbott done that has resulted in those 60,000+ losing their jobs?
If you were to blame anyone, it would have to be Rudd and Gillard and Rudd again :devil:
I’ll stick to what I said earlier today. Hawke wins based on any criteria you want to use.
QnA.
Slippery Soapy calling breaching 18C a criminal offence and the impressive Markson women calls him on it. gutsy in her position.
Should 18C be used against the Chaser boys and what they say about right wingers?
Where’s the $500+ that Abbott promised we would get before last Christmas?
Another lie..
more Grinch that Father Christmas..just ask the workers who are losing their jobs
@Mod Lib/3286
Now Mod Lib back in denial.
It’s called lack of Goverment Support, namely, Funding.
While I think Howard was a evil conniving dishonest war-mongering cane toad he was probably the most “successful” PM since Whitlam, in the sense of changing Australia..
He privatised $80B of public assets to private corporations, he succesfully attached (forever) the Fraser/Hawke/Keating era debt to the ALP and he successfully fed an unforgiving/winner-takes-all/greed is good attitude amongst a section of the polulation.
The ALP, (Rudd/Gillard) governments had little impact on the Howard legacy.
They never investigated the shadowy business (AWB, children overboard etc),
they never brought one former public enterprise back into public ownership,
they accepted the “hardline” line as the new year “zero”.
And the new “hardliners” will remove the Carbon Trading Scheme and all other recent RG changes.
Medibank stlll exists despite the governments, both ALP/LNP, since Whitlam.
Rudd and Gillard were not great PM’s in the sense of achieving long term changes. I may be wrong but I don’t think either of them really had a convincing long term “vision” for Australia.
Obviously Abbott has even less.
I mean how does the Liberal Party sell “we will hand over your country (your lives) to the control of foreign corporations and you will accept it?
Soapy copping from all sides on QANDA. 😀
Lisa Wilkinson just called Brandis a heterosexual male!
[Because so many here have an obsessive hate of Rudd that manifests itself in all sorts of weird posts and theories, that makes me worry for their mental health. ]
Well you need to find yourself a life, babe. Because hating on everyone who doesn’t buy into the cult of the former member for Griffith is seemingly doing all kinds of weird shit to your sorry arse.
Nobody is denying the man had good polling. Of course he bloody did. That’s what makes the revelation that he was such a crap leader all the more tragic FFS!
Re Rudd 3282
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Hubris may have beaten him in the end ….but it also was a problem at the start and all through his term
It seems he was a very odd person in his administration if one can believe many observers
BTW ..Billy Hughes has similar shortcomings…but on a massive scale and he was also a lying scoundrel… if Donald Horne great bio “In Search of Billy Highes ” is correct
It’s nice to know Brandis doesn’t understand the law he wants to repeal nor the case that has inspired him to do so.
Mad Lib@3289
Of they made a racist attack like Bolt did, most certainly.
But we know that is the preserve of Right Wing Nuts.
They’ve all lined up against Soapy – and Bowenb has hardly started on him!
I reckon Brandis did brilliantly just then, although the twitterverse is probably agreeing with itself that it is right and he is wong!