The enterprise of poll aggregation has been thrown into a spin after one major pollster, Nielsen, reported a 53-47 lead to the Coalition last week, and another, Newspoll, reported a 54-46 lead to Labor this week – leaving a 1% gap between the outer edges of the two error margins (UPDATE: Nielsen was actually 52-48, so scratch that about the gap between the error margins). BludgerTrack plots a course through the middle, with some residual influence of scattered results from Morgan and Essential, to give Labor a 50.7-49.3 lead after a dead heat last week. However, that only converts to a two-seat Labor gain on the seat projection, with one seat added from the New South Wales tally and another from Queensland, leaving the Coalition one seat shy of an absolute majority. Labor’s primary vote gain comes mostly at the expense of the Greens, who lose a bit of air after inflating over previous weeks, while the Palmer United Party maintains a slow downward trajectory to record its weakest result since the election.
The dire result for the Coalition from Newspoll was reflected in the leadership ratings, which have caused Tony Abbott’s trend on net satisfaction to point downwards again after levelling off in the early new year period. The trendlines on preferred prime minister had likewise flattened out over the past month or two, with Tony Abbott record a lead of slightly below double figures, but it now looks to be narrowing again, at least for the time being. The one constant is Bill Shorten’s net satisfaction, the only measure in the Newspoll numbers that is not off trend. Shorten is accordingly down to a new low, as he has been with every update so far this year. He has, however, been spared the ignominy of crossing paths with Abbott, which he came within 0.3% of doing last week.
LOL
Everything read Kezza @ 3431 😆
Ok detractors, let’s get this back on track:
Obama has called out Putin: if you do/don’t act this way etc, the consequences will be isolation, suspension from G8 etc. He hasn’t mentioned military action.
I’m saying that Obama will do nothing whatever Putin does, because doing anything decisive on foreign policy is not his shtick.
I’m not judging the actions on either side of the Ukraine divide, because I honestly don’t know which side is worse, but Obama has made his call and soon he will back down .. that’s his shtick.
[Centre
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm | PERMALINK
LOL
Everything read Kezza @ 3431]
LOL
Lets quadruple it then! YAY surpluses for eternity at no cost to business nor consumers!
YAY 😉
.. 3452 ….
and that’s how Obama is perceived at home and abroad so, kezza2, that hardly strengthens America.
[Everything
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:21 pm | PERMALINK
I think you are all taking me the wrong way….I reckon you are all in contention for the Nobel Prize for Economics next year. Apparently you have invented the no-pain tax:]
And you’re missing everything, Everything.
The carbon price was introduced to reduce emissions, not give everyone a slap and tickle. It was an inducement for everyone to reduce their personal resource consumption.
And they did. Well most everyone. Except for a lot of the wealthy who thought they were entitled to consume as much as they bloody well liked as long as it didn’t interrupt their lifestyles. So they paid for their consumption, while the rest us reduced ours.
You obviously didn’t take it seriously. You think the world’s fuel is unlimited.
People with a brain know that finite organic resources means we not only have to look elsewhere for our power, we also needed to reduce our reliance on it, so that our kids will have some access to what we’ve always had access to.
Is $5 a week too much for you to pay to secure the future for your kids?
Using Mod Libs/Everythings thinking the taxes charged to airfares that affect fuel costs are somehow contributing to Qantas’ difficulties. Likewise our taxes that pay for air traffic control systems, pilot training, airline safety regulation ad infinitum are somehow anti-competitive.
When will these neanderthals realise that taxes are the prices we pay for a civilised, safe world? The carbon tax is no different. A 150 years ago there was a similar cabal of right wing opinion makers who bitterly fought taxes to pay for safe water, decent sewerage systems etc. They were wrong then and they are wrong now.
Guytaur
SHY’s tweet?
It’s a worry!
That’s all I will say 😯
Everything seems to be on a mission (not from any Diety) to spread and support Abbott’s lies regarding the Carbon Price impacts on business failures. Let’s ignore him / her.
[Repealing Section 3 of the Q sales act means they can offshore everything, even the stock exchange listing and HQ.]
Wow. Really?
Be careful what you wish for, Liberal shills.
Centre
Still cant say it hey. 😆
I will leave it at that. Its a slogan Labor should be using.
Abbott’s war on Jobs.
Says it all
Could somebody take post 3453?
I really don’t feel like smashing it to the nearest super nova.
24 is coming from Pretoria. Pretorius trial
Perhaps the Qantas Board should not have spent $400+ million buying shares to use as bonuses for themselves and CEO.
That’s one way to get rid of profits and run at a loss.
Bet they still get their bonuses.
Sorry Pistorios
ModLib
Oh, I thought we were discussing Qantas.
guytaur
I’m afraid it will come with more authority from a Labor MP.
When was the last time the Greens defended the carbon tax 😆
That’s where SHY should be focusing her attack, after all it was Loon policy 🙂
Everything. Why don’t you get on to something real and push for the repeal of the GST. Far more detrimental, perhaps the cause of all our current economic woes, huge tax impost on demand and profits.
do they have an ounce of self-reflection
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/in-hiding-abc-only-increases-the-suspicion-of-bias/story-e6frg6zo-1226839948628#
“The ABC’s Managing Director Mark Scott believes, like Joseph Goebbels, that repetition convinces.”
Which public figure in Australia, fully backed by the murdoch media, has over the past 5 years done nothing but endlessly repeated three word slogans and lies, and continued these lies even when publicly corrected? which opposition and now government has based their entire strategy in repeating lies even when publicly corrected. Abbott is the chief offender, but Hunt, Hockey and Morriscum are not far behind. The Australian of course can see nothing of the sort, and seek to howl down the ABC for doing its job and questioning the government and the motives of a media owner and newspaper that has run significant losses for years purely to influence/corrupt Australian democracy. a royal commission is in order. Murdoch in chair answering why he pays so many hacks to REPEAT crap would be worth seeing. Turnbull in the chair explain why he has gutted the NBN to give Murdoch billions of windfall profit would also be good. Conroy or Combet as commissioner please.
Everything
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:30 pm | Permalink
Centre
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm | PERMALINK
LOL
Everything read Kezza @ 3431
LOL
Lets quadruple it then! YAY surpluses for eternity at no cost to business nor consumers!
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Surpluses are evidence that the Government has either;
-not spent enough on infrastructure, education, health etc
or
– has overtaxed the workers
[Centre
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:28 pm | PERMALINK
LOL
Everything read Kezza @ 3431 :lol:]
Okay, let me in on the secret, Centre. What is it that you find particularly laughable about the facts:
1. All domestic airflights in Australia attracted a carbon price.
2. All domestic airlines passed on the carbon price to travellers.
3. There has been an increase of domestic travellers since the introduction of the carbon price.
Or shall I call an ambulance for you? And Everything?
Compared to the Carbon Price the GST had a greater effect on prices and costs
Petersen out – gloved a Johnson quick one to Haddin.
When Qantas announces a single job will be moved offshore – Blame Abbott.
[zoomster
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:41 pm | PERMALINK
ModLib
Oh, I thought we were discussing Qantas.]
What part of “the airlines” confused you?
[zoomster
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:24 pm | PERMALINK
Apparently when the airlines say that the carbon price isn’t the reason they’re struggling, they’re wrong.]
So, do you concede that the carbon tax has a negative impact on the airline industry?
[Mick77
Posted Monday, March 3, 2014 at 8:29 pm | PERMALINK
Ok detractors, let’s get this back on track:
Obama has called out Putin: if you do/don’t act this way etc, the consequences will be isolation, suspension from G8 etc. He hasn’t mentioned military action.]
Oh, der.
Are you going to be disadvantaged if we don’t get into another war? Are you?
Or do you think killing people helps?
I’m so sick to death of people like you thinking killing, smashing, everything in sight, is an answer. It’s not.
I fail to see how the carbon tax could have had any deleterious weffect on Qantas.
It seems Abbott has buckley’s chance of repealing the QSA now or after June. So when is Tony going to call his DD. 😆
Kezza, I’m in agreement with you. That’s why I said to Mod Lib to read your post.
*rolls eyes
Mick77
Seriously, what do you WANT Obama to do? Start mentioning nukes?
Centre
Sorry, I mistook your 😆 to mean *rolling eyes*
*chuckle* at my my bristles.
[I fail to see how the carbon tax could have had any deleterious weffect on Qantas.]
Especially when Qantas itself has confirmed that it hasn’t.
Will our Defence Minister send in the Tanks again. 😆
sustainable future @ 3468
Another of Goebbels’ maxims was to always accuse your opponent of what you’re doing yourself. Hence the Oz article.
I suppose it is smart politics by Abbott. His “help” for qantas won’t cost a cent and if, as seems likely, it is blocked in the senate and qantas gets deeper in strife he has another stick to beat Labor about the head with which his mates in the Tory press will duly report with no regard to the facts.
Shorten Presser
Re sustainable future @3468 – The ABC’s Managing Director Mark Scott believes, like Joseph Goebbels, that repetition convinces.
Geoffrey Luck, the author of that article, has obviously confused Mark Scott with Tony Abbott or one of his minsters “Carbon tax / unions / Carbon Tax / unions / Carbon Tax / unions…”. A lie, repeated often enough…
Would someone please explain this:
– If Qantas moves off-shore, won’t the Australian govt stop giving it preferential routes via bilateral agreements;
– If that happens, won’t off-shore Qantas be cactus?
“@KJBar: OL Shorten: ‘Under Tony Abbott #Qantas will be Australian no more.’ @ABCNews24”
“@latikambourke: OL Bill Shorten says once Qantas jobs go offshore Australia will not be able to get them back.”
Kezza, you made Everything go sarcasm to the extreme.
You can join the club – everyone who has scored a victory over Mod Lib 😈
confessions
I thought ModLib had already established that Qantas doesn’t know what they’re talking about.
Centre
I think you did, after all. He thought you were on his team (as did I). I dips me lid.
Well done, son, even if you have a gambling problem. 😆
You’ve just gotta love the depths to which the Obama haters will sink to score a cheap political shot.
“Obama is trying to resolve the Crimea situation through limp-wristed, kinda gay diplomatic and economic isolation. What an idiot! What he SHOULD be doing is threatening Putin and the Russian Federation (a nuclear fucking superpower) with war! That will end well!”
Just when you thought it was safe to go back in the water…
I thought Ferguson was a hard but reasonably fair interviewer but after harassing Albo tonight & then indulging in a little giggle in with Sabra, asking the only question that mattered to them about the QSA “what does this mean for Labor?” with a little Uhlmannesque light in Sabra’s eye as she told us they were well & truly wedged. No mention of what it meant for the future of others, perhaps Qantas?
Can’t be bothered with ’em.
zoomster:
Seriously? 😆
I wouldn’t know however, as I haven’t been paying attention to Mod Lib’s comments.
Modern Lib,
Shouldn’t be too hard for you to provide evidence of your claim that the carbon price has impacted on Qantas performance.
Stop picking on Mod Lib, he’s the only extant remnant of his species.
The Crimea is populated mainly by Russians who want to be part of Russia. And most of its history it has been part of Russia.
Putin holds a full house and Obama and NATO are holding pairs of fives.
You can’t bluff someone with a full house.
Shorten – Abbott guvmint has created a new export industry, exporting Australian jobs. 😆
a-t 3479
Obama has stated what he’s gonna do if …, I’m just saying he won’t do it.
kezza2 3475- I think your extreme leftism has poisoned your brain cells. I can think of no other explanation for your irrelevant hate-filled rant. I stated that Obama has NOT mentioned military action, I repeat NOT.
I’d better get out of here before my much used, but fully intact brain cells get infected.
@Mod Lib/3434
The Goverment does not get anymore money by not having CT/MT.