James J reports Newspoll has ticked a point in the Coalition’s favour, so that they now lead 51-49 on two-party preferred. This is down to a two-point increase in their primary vote to 43%, with Labor steady on 36% and the Greens steady on 10%. There is yet again bad news for Tony Abbott on personal ratings: his approval is down three points to 27% and his disapproval is up five to 63%. This marks a new low for him on net approval, and has been matched since the inception of Newspoll (in late 1985) only by the polls which preceded the downfalls of Alexander Downer in January 1995 and John Hewson in April 1994, and several for Andrew Peacock in the lead-up to the 1990 election. Julia Gillard meanwhile is respectively up two to 37% and up one to 52%, and her lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 45-34 to 46-32.
Today’s Essential Research survey included its monthly personal rating questions, and these too found Abbott falling to new lows. Whereas the previous survey showed both leaders up in the immediate aftermath of Julia Gillard’s sexism and misogyny speech, the latest result has Abbott down four on approval to 33% and up four on disapproval to 58%. Gillard is steady on approval at 41% approval and down two on disapproval to 49%, and her lead as preferred prime minister is up from 43-36 to 45-32, her best result since February 2011.
Essential is also chiming better with Newspoll now on voting intention, with the Coalition’s lead now at 52-48 (down from 53-47 last week) from primary votes of 37% for Labor (steady), 45% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). Also canvassed are options on how the government might rein in the budget, with reducing or means testing the baby bonus and increasing tax for those on high incomes respectively coming on top.
Preselection news:
• Ben McClellan of the Blacktown Advocate reports there are “at least” 10 candidates for the Liberal preselection in Greenway, of whom the highest profile is former Rose Tattoo singer Gary “Angry” Anderson. However, the presumed front-runner is the candidate from 2010, Jayme Diaz, whose work as a migration lawyer and family background in the locally numerous Filipino community is believed to stand him in good stead. Diaz is aligned with the David Clarke “hard Right”, but he apparently has an opponent in Tony Abbott, who no doubt has a strong recollection of Diaz’s failure to win the crucial seat last time. Also mentioned as starters have been Ben Jackson and Brett Murray, who are associated with federal Mitchell MP Alex Hawke’s “Centre Right” faction.
• The Tasmanian Liberals have preselected Brett Whiteley, who held in state parliament from 2002 until his defeat in 2010, as their federal candidate for marginal north-western seat of Braddon. The party originally chose local businessman Michael Burr, but he withdrew for health reasons. Whiteley did not contest the original preselection, saying at the time he was focused on returning to state politics.
• Chris Johnson of the Canberra Times reports that Kate Hamilton, a former councillor in Leichhardt in inner Sydney, and local party member Stephen Darwin will join former GetUp! director Simon Sheikh in the contest for Greens preselection for the Senate in the Australian Capital Territory.
• Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports on the prospect of federal executive intervention if Noreen Hay, state Wollongong MP and member for the Right, uses her influence over the local numbers to back a preselection challenge against Stephen Jones, federal member for Throsby and member of the Left.
• Don Farrell has agreed to accept relegation to the second position on Labor’s South Australian Senate ticket in deference to Penny Wong, after his victory in the state conference ballot met a hostile response within the party and without.
poroti@3698
I join you in an atheistic concurrence.
zoomster,
Conroy should have replaced HoJo on Kitchen Cabinet. Joe had zero idea about onions. Quite made semi-competent males blush, he did.
my say@3555
The great thing about democracy is that you are free to vote for whoever you think will represent your views in government. If you wish to base this decision on disagreements on an internet blog then go for it. I hope you can look your grand children in the eyes and explain to them why you voted for a party that destroyed their future.
Your petty whinging does you no service.
[Joe had zero idea about onions. Quite made semi-competent males blush, he did.]
AT least he tried to cook, Pyne got Mandy Vanstone to do it for him.
[Och no lassie. It will confirm what we all know. The Scots invented modernity
Thank you my bonny man, will watch it, from ye wee lassie]
Yous’ve bin watchin’ too much Neil Oliver, youse ‘ave!
thats ok ru we want have to put with joks
like two headed people
my word you lot can give cant you but cannot take
i have taken crap about my state my religion
ect here for long enough,
you all deserve each other
and bemused at lease mr abbott does not vilify
catholics
you all see the vote drop soon if all the public
behave towards catholics you lot have here
but of course out there in the real world they dont
ru at least we have a labor gov, here what sour grapes
mari
[most went to Nova Scotia in Canada which is very similar to Scotland eg the dales,glens and brooks]
My several great ancestors followed this religous loon .
[Norman McLeod of Assynt,St Annes (Nova Scotia) and Waipu.]
http://www.broadrunit.com/RootsWeb/NormanMcLeod.html
Nearly 200 years later.
[Waipu Highland Games – New Zealand 2012]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8Bd0H8FZQY
What do you win on Emmoquiz? I reckon I just got the answer.
It seems the current program on ABC TV is “heart-warming”. Does anyone else lose interest when a program is introduced with a series of subjective judgements? “Confronting” is another omnipresent one.
BTW, can anyone explain why “loose” is pronounced with a shorter vowel than “lose”? Weird!
And yes, I do have many of David Crystal’s books.
Dio # 3538 :
Snort the Boats?
ru i was actully being ligh hearted laughing at our selves
but then none of you seem to have sence of context any more
it may be good if you all actully left your key board s and did things
there is a world out there i have wasted nearly two years of my life lhere for labor
but then it was not a clique place like it is now
seems one cannot live with out the other
now they even have holidays together
Emmoquiz gets you a $50 donation to a charity of your choice.
Congrats! The wait until he announces it on Sunday drags on….
my say@3679
You would have to be joking.
I love Tasmania with all my heart, I am a bushwalker. I have done the overland track more times than I care to remember. Frenchman’s Cap, the sodden Lodden, Lake Vera and the treeroots over which I hauled my overweight yet enthusiastic bushwalking aunt are some of my fondest memories.
But it is a mendicant state. It relies on cash injections from the rest of Australia.
I think that is a good thing.
We are a nation. We look after all of our citizens.
But face facts, if there are less mainlanders coming to Tassie, it is Tassie that suffers.
[Pyne got Mandy Vanstone to do it for him]
Dinks?
My dream is to get JGPM, or when non-PM, to come here for a meal. And she won’t be doing the cooking … unless she wants to.
Tasmania has the population of Luxembourg and the GDP of Bolivia. 😛
If Mormons aren’t Christian what are they?
Yes they have ridiculous, unbelievable, laughable and downright stupid beliefs but name one Christian sect that doesn’t.
It’s funny how (for example) a Catholic might have the gall to mock Mormons for the American Jesus thing but simultaneously believe they are LITERALLY eating the flesh of Christ every Sunday. Or how a Pentecostal might make fun of the magic underwear then start speaking in tongues at the next service they attend.
Glass houses.
my say,
[there is a world out there i have wasted nearly two years of my life lhere for labor]
What you do or anyone else does is not a waste of life.
You learn, you give or you receive. Nothing is wasted.
CTar1,
The sessions of the PhD students’ annual conference that I attended were remarkably good (admittedly, six out of the eight students were members of the lab of which I’m honoured to be a member).
So, not a navel in sight – though one of our more flamboyant students chose an almost fluoro dress – and she looked magnifique.
On two totally different subjects – and neither is directed to you,
(1) What housework do male PBers living in shared accommodation (includes partners of all descriptions) do without being “reminded”? (This comes out of a conversation with another of the gorgeous PhD kids today.)
(2) Can anyone give me a rating of Maggie Beer’s Chocolate and Salted Caramel Ice Cream?
(At least nobody will be able to allege that I don’t do diverse subjects 😉 )
POROTI I am listening to the link now as I am typing, didn’t know the Scots were the “Brawny Mercenaries” of the world, it is so interesting Thanks
[ru i was actully being ligh hearted laughing at our selves
but then none of you seem to have sence of context any more
it may be good if you all actully left your key board s and did things]
Is incurable cancer an excuse for not getting out and doing things?
[Tasmania has the population of Luxembourg]
Who inhabits Luxembourg?
mari
Not only but also . Two High School “gangs” meet in a New Zealand city. They have a show down 😉
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rsjMpJcrCQ
fiona,
[(1) What housework do male PBers living in shared accommodation (includes partners of all descriptions) do without being “reminded”? (This comes out of a conversation with another of the gorgeous PhD kids today.)]
Shopping, cooking, dishes, the accounts, sleeping in, garbage bins out and in. OH looks after the important stuff.
POROTI I saw that one, you bugger
Evening all.
[Would it be possible to ask the coders that if you click on a link here on PB, it opens a new window? PB has so many useful links to weighty articles that it would make more sense to open them and then come back later. As it is, I’m constantly forgetting which window will back up to PB.]
Hold your mouse over the tab you have PB open and right click. Choose ‘Pin as an App Tab’, and from thereon all links you click on in PB will automatically open in a new tab (except Crikey ones).
[3706
my say
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 8:10 pm | PERMALINK
thats ok ru we want have to put with joks
like two headed people
my word you lot can give cant you but cannot take
i have taken crap about my state my religion
ect here for long enough,
you all deserve each other
and bemused at lease mr abbott does not vilify
catholics
you all see the vote drop soon if all the public
behave towards catholics you lot have here
but of course out there in the real world they dont
ru at least we have a labor gov, here what sour grapes]
Would it be too much to ask for you to point me to where I have vilified Catholics?
POROTI So the yanks now have a national tartan day:)
cud chewer@3695
Couldn’t agree more.
This is a wonderful site, William does a sterling job, but his efforts are not given the support they should get from the Crikey hamsters.
And while I am on the topic, why can’t the Crikey hamsters shamelessly copy the code that Musrum & Dario have put together, so that you don’t have to install a whole series of extra apps in order for PB to work the way it should work in the first place?
Even the Crikey hamsters should be capable of copying and pasting, surely?
Nah, maybe not.
@my say
Who in the federal Labor Party is vilifying Catholics? Where do you come up with this stuff?
Deja vu? I’m sure we’ve been here before …
Or a bung hip, which means walking more than 50 metres at a stretch is impossible?
Honestly, mysay, be a little more understanding.
Tasmania should be made part of Victoria and the NT be made a State in its place.
mari:
How did your MNC PBers get-together go today? I’m sure you had a ball.
Clink on a link?
Right click and you get a menu.
That is the second thing I teach my U3A classes. The first one is: “See that thingy? That’s a mouse.”
bemused@3677
Me too.
I have a little list…
[Deja vu? I’m sure we’ve been here before …]
It’s still less annoying than Ruddstoration hysteria.
But only just.
mari
[
POROTI I saw that one, you bugger]
Sorry about that. This morning I had my internet connection throttled back to 64k. OMFG is it a pain in the asteroid. On the upside I am back up to full speed tomorrow.It is a good lesson as to why old speed ain’t good enough.
Time for New Tricks.
Koko, is that you?
On the bung hip thing, I received my disabled parking sticker the other day.
Fat lot of use it is.
Because I don’t need a wheelchair, the reasoning is that I don’t need a special disabled parking space (because I don’t need extra room to get out of the car).
So the sticker I have doesn’t let me park in a disabled space. All it does it let me park in a normal space for twice as long.
As I only needed it to get close enough to where I need to go so that I can walk there, it’s effectively useless.
[3736
confessions
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 8:29 pm | PERMALINK
Deja vu? I’m sure we’ve been here before …
It’s still less annoying than Ruddstoration hysteria.
But only just.]
Says she introducing the topic…
It’s never to late to stir some more things into the mix, I guess?
zoomster
I had no idea there was that restriction. That is so unfair.
[On the bung hip thing, I received my disabled parking sticker the other day.
Fat lot of use it is.]
Zoomie did you get a Vic one or a National one? If you got a national one park where you feel like -it overrides the Stae ones. If it is recent it should be a National one.
poroti@3737
Poroti, I have had that experience myself. It is not pretty, and it is not something I would care to repeat.
I was obviously on the wrong ‘plan’. There’s an oxymoron if ever I heard one.
It was a visceral reaction, I had this white hot rage inside me, I got onto telstra and said, ‘I don’t care what it costs, get rid of this ******* shaping, and do it now!
I think the last few days have been pretty full on here and events have been debated strongly with emotions and feelings running deep and divided resulting in a confrontational and, to some degree, uncomfortable feel.
I am the first to admit I myself could have acted better with a couple of my posts but what is done is done. That is something for me to deal with.
Perhaps it is time for us to sit back, take a deep breath and realise that we may not all agree on everything with opposing deep and strong views and beliefs being held by posters but the world is pretty good.
Australia is going well, we have a great government and PM and overall we are in a pretty good place.
May everyone have a great weekend and a peaceful time to all.
Cheers.
TLBD,
[Shopping, cooking, dishes, the accounts, sleeping in, garbage bins out and in. OH looks after the important stuff.]
Hmmm. My father was more than delighted to have a partner who returned to work (on a temporary basis, of course, as far as her employer – the Commonwealth – was concerned) three years after they married, and when I was 10 months old.
I accompanied her.
The deal, from his perspective:
1. He took care of me during the weekends so that she could get a proper rest. (We had lots of fun at David Mackay’s hardware shop when I was growing up – and I mean this seriously.)
2. He believed that whoever did the cooking was banned from doing the washing up – and he practised that belief.
3. The house they planned and built together was designed to be practical – minimum housework for maximum effect. He swept, dusted, and vacuumed with the best, and was DEATH on clutter – even my precious clutter (one holiday away, and I returned to several empty drawers).
After he retired, he took command of the laundry, and did it very well. The only complaint that her who must be obeyed (and her daughter) had was his insistence of leaving the pegs on the clothesline.
Indeed, the only domestic chore that he was less than willing to do was cleaning the toilets.
Apart from that, my father was and is a paragon, even if he is a difficult old so-and-so, and I love him dearly.
[It’s never to late to stir some more things into the mix, I guess?]
You know bemused will just start shaking with apoplectic rage again. 😆
Bemused on Kevvie is as bad a whinger as my say is about the catholic church.
ru
I will examine it under a bright light and see. I got it through my local council, which was where I was told to apply.
[confessions
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 8:27 pm | PERMALINK
mari:
How did your MNC PBers get-together go today? I’m sure you had a ball.]
We did, so good we are going to have another one next year, solved the woes of the world in between reading about Tony Abbott’s latest gaffe on the hashkey on Twitter and the comments in it. Food was plentiful and lovely and there was a little bit of drink around? But me a good girl and having to drive home didn’t partake too much of course. The best thing was I didn’t get lost like last time. Many thanks to Lyne Lady for providing the venue and also a vote for C@tMomma for coming up from the Central Coast