James J reports Newspoll has ticked a point in the Coalition’s favour, so that they now lead 51-49 on two-party preferred. This is down to a two-point increase in their primary vote to 43%, with Labor steady on 36% and the Greens steady on 10%. There is yet again bad news for Tony Abbott on personal ratings: his approval is down three points to 27% and his disapproval is up five to 63%. This marks a new low for him on net approval, and has been matched since the inception of Newspoll (in late 1985) only by the polls which preceded the downfalls of Alexander Downer in January 1995 and John Hewson in April 1994, and several for Andrew Peacock in the lead-up to the 1990 election. Julia Gillard meanwhile is respectively up two to 37% and up one to 52%, and her lead as preferred prime minister has widened from 45-34 to 46-32.
Today’s Essential Research survey included its monthly personal rating questions, and these too found Abbott falling to new lows. Whereas the previous survey showed both leaders up in the immediate aftermath of Julia Gillard’s sexism and misogyny speech, the latest result has Abbott down four on approval to 33% and up four on disapproval to 58%. Gillard is steady on approval at 41% approval and down two on disapproval to 49%, and her lead as preferred prime minister is up from 43-36 to 45-32, her best result since February 2011.
Essential is also chiming better with Newspoll now on voting intention, with the Coalition’s lead now at 52-48 (down from 53-47 last week) from primary votes of 37% for Labor (steady), 45% for the Coalition (down one) and 9% for the Greens (steady). Also canvassed are options on how the government might rein in the budget, with reducing or means testing the baby bonus and increasing tax for those on high incomes respectively coming on top.
Preselection news:
• Ben McClellan of the Blacktown Advocate reports there are “at least” 10 candidates for the Liberal preselection in Greenway, of whom the highest profile is former Rose Tattoo singer Gary “Angry” Anderson. However, the presumed front-runner is the candidate from 2010, Jayme Diaz, whose work as a migration lawyer and family background in the locally numerous Filipino community is believed to stand him in good stead. Diaz is aligned with the David Clarke “hard Right”, but he apparently has an opponent in Tony Abbott, who no doubt has a strong recollection of Diaz’s failure to win the crucial seat last time. Also mentioned as starters have been Ben Jackson and Brett Murray, who are associated with federal Mitchell MP Alex Hawke’s “Centre Right” faction.
• The Tasmanian Liberals have preselected Brett Whiteley, who held in state parliament from 2002 until his defeat in 2010, as their federal candidate for marginal north-western seat of Braddon. The party originally chose local businessman Michael Burr, but he withdrew for health reasons. Whiteley did not contest the original preselection, saying at the time he was focused on returning to state politics.
• Chris Johnson of the Canberra Times reports that Kate Hamilton, a former councillor in Leichhardt in inner Sydney, and local party member Stephen Darwin will join former GetUp! director Simon Sheikh in the contest for Greens preselection for the Senate in the Australian Capital Territory.
• Phillip Coorey of the Sydney Morning Herald reports on the prospect of federal executive intervention if Noreen Hay, state Wollongong MP and member for the Right, uses her influence over the local numbers to back a preselection challenge against Stephen Jones, federal member for Throsby and member of the Left.
• Don Farrell has agreed to accept relegation to the second position on Labor’s South Australian Senate ticket in deference to Penny Wong, after his victory in the state conference ballot met a hostile response within the party and without.
[I find football, netball and cricket a decent substitute for war.]
More knee injuries in netball. 😆
lizzie
[Alex @xx_Alexandra
Oh my god. Bush accidently voted for Obama. HAHAHAHA. #election2012]
There’s accidentally and then there’s “accidentally” 😆
As much as we’d like to believe it….http://www.snopes.com/politics/satire/bushvote.asp
ruawake@3651
As well as sliding on plastic advertising. just ask Liz Ellis. My GP was the doctor who attended to her. OH and I have had assorted stuff done, courtesy of her, to our legs and now give mountain goats a run for their money. You just don’t know how lucky you can be.
Oh, gee shucks…
[Julia Glllard@JuliaGlllard
RT @ZuveleLeschen: Have you ever seen a Lib policy & if so, can you describe it? #QuestionsGillardMustAnswer / Invisible, mostly hot air. JG]
NOT EVEN WRONG!
Thanks, ru.
The LNP are consistently inconsistent, I find. Pity this stuff just gets mindlessly reported. The thing that struck me was that what I did hear just didn’t make any sort of logical sense.
Nevertheless, the Abbott Broadcasting Corporation duly reports. In the interests of balance, of course. And the segment was of course introduced by “The Opposition says”.
I’m almost at the point where I want to araldite the ABCs off switches shut.
Very cross.
Memo to self: have a scotch and settle down.
Bruce Flegg just does not realise what accountability means.
[“I’ve chosen this life, they’ve had it chosen for them. It’s not nice and it’s not like anything of a serious nature is involved at all – this is a few lines on a form that a secretary fills out that weren’t filled out – that’s pretty much what it is and it needs to be kept in perspective.”]
No Bruce, your son was told not to contact your office in a work related sense, he did, many times. His employer found out and have suspended him.
You seem to have forgotten to get your staff to fib for you, instead you sacked them and sent them legal nasty letters. Go away you nasty man. 🙁
zoomster,
whoo hoo
tweets with the PM
HSO
the sad thing is that Milne is tweeting along the same lines.
Thank you to “the wish we were there PBers” Space Kidette, MsAdventure plus others PBers who because of work commitments etc couldn’t be with us today, also others who have expressed interest in coming to future get togethers, or just wished up the best, we did have a ball today and there will be future get togethers in 2013. Watch this space!
TLBD
[Morsi might be a horse of a different colour.]
About 80% of the Egyptian population would feel ‘more comfortable’ if Iran had a nuclear bomb (polling by an US company).
Ice-hockey with Joe’s head might work.
ruawake@3651
[I find football, netball and cricket a decent substitute for war.
More knee injuries in netball.
]
Even back in my day netball was known as “The Orthopaedic surgeons friend” . Big shout out to our Tree Surgeon 🙂
Zoom, not sure if you knew this but that account is fake. PMs twitter account has lower case ‘i’ in her surname
Gillard down for count, by Phillip Coorey – and Tony Abbott is by far the nation’s favoured leader – http://www.smh.com.au/national/gillard-down-for-count-20110717-1hkak.html#ixzz2C2pVnENy … bwahahahaha
zoomster, do you mean that Milne is tweeting about the solar rebate cessation is a failure of the project?
If so, has just hardened my resolve to never vote for them again at any level.
Sadly I doubt those tweets are coming from Real Julia.
poroti,
Netball is quite a bit faster these days. Not so much planting your foot; more looking up, gliding and passing. The
girlsladies in the shooting circles cop the worst.TLBD
[OH and I have had assorted stuff done, courtesy of her, to our legs and now give mountain goats a run for their money]
The bike ride up from the sewerage works?
And the outcome of the bike revival?
The Finnigans You give me a shock each time I see one your Bwahahahaha comments, such as 3665, I think gawd there I was enjoying myself at the MCC PB meet and Abbott has suddenly become the “favoured” leader, I suddenly didn’t feel so good!!! But keep doing it and stick it up those Journos and their comments, what is the saying”those who laughs last laughs best”
Damn it, yes – checked ‘real Julia’ ‘s tweet stream.
My eyes are fading, along with my other faculties…
MARI !!!!!
Sorry for shouting but by golly you,my,Scots connections take on a whole new dimension after listening to this radio program.OMG, the Scots were a full on 800 years ago in Vikings lands as traders and as “men of violence” . Hundreds of settlements in Scandanavia,Poland,Latvia etc etc. That is just the start.
[The Scots have been leaving their country for all corners of the globe from the 13th century onwards – a phenomenon which has only begun to reverse over the past decade. But what impact did Scottish culture have on the many nations to which they emigrated – and how did it change the home country itself? Originally broadcast on 2/8/12]
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/the-scottish-diaspora/4363376
Question: is there new media laws in place? and what was it called?
CTar1,
The bike has been “renovated” (only required tyres pumping up, after 20 odd years). Very wary of getting on the road and not getting to grips with the gear changes on 2 sprockets but it will come. So I’m still relying on walking for exercise. 10k to the LMWQCC and back is OK.
From Finns article.
[Ms Gillard took her campaign to Adelaide yesterday with a special focus on the assistance for pensioners which will leave all 3.4 million of them better off. She took issue with claims by Mr Abbott that the South Australian industrial towns of Whyalla and Port Pirie would be ”wiped off the map”.]
Has anyone checked Port Pirie lately? Is it still there?
This little black duck
In trad sheepens land women all played netball in the morning before all the men played ruggerby in the afternoon. I am a huge Netball fan and the clashes between Straya and NZ in netball have provided some of the most heart stopping exciting sports moments like EVA. Just think the Olympic double extra extra sudden death time. Took years of my life ! 🙂
[3555
my say
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 5:18 pm | PERMALINK
i wonder do i have areason to vote labor any more
mr abbott is looking more safe and good to me every day]
Bookmarked for future reference when you next proclaim yourself a loyal ALP supporter.
TLBD
[Very wary of getting on the road]
The X-over bike tracks seem like madness to me.
Keep good.
is it possible for bass striat to be widened
i wish so,, less mainlander s
just saw the abc christmas giving tree start
where it was expressed tasmania is the richest state
becauce we all look after each other
Drat, zoomster, drat.
Yay, the BISONs now TALKIE TALKIE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Is the Finnigans retro news articles being sent into the twittervers?
HSO
Ah well, I do have a personally addressed letter signed by her….
(I have one from Keating, as well).
Laocoon,
[ Mormons aren’t Christians ]
Ah! So that explains why they do readings from the new Testament and have Communion at their services.
Mmmmmmm! Something doesn’t seem right here. Even the Book of Mormon talks about Jesus appearing in the Americas after his little problems in Palestine.
Maybe you should do a little research and rewrite that comment.
I think the dissection on PB of the various faiths in the past couple of weeks often demonstrates just how much a lot of people ‘don’t’ Know about them!
It is not smart to bag something you know nothing about here. It generally just causes distress to somebody needlessly and makes the writer out to be ignorant as well as odious.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Church_of_Jesus_Christ_of_Latter-day_Saints
[poroti
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 7:37 pm | PERMALINK
MARI !!!!!
Sorry for shouting but by golly you,my,Scots connections take on a whole new dimension after listening to this radio program.OMG, the Scots were a full on 800 years ago in Vikings lands as traders and as “men of violence” . Hundreds of settlements in Scandanavia,Poland,Latvia etc etc. That is just the start.
The Scots have been leaving their country for all corners of the globe from the 13th century onwards – a phenomenon which has only begun to reverse over the past decade. But what impact did Scottish culture have on the many nations to which they emigrated – and how did it change the home country itself? Originally broadcast on 2/8/12
http://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/latenightlive/the-scottish-diaspora/4363376
POROTI I thought I was in trouble from you of all people, I will now go and listen to your link, won’t give me a shock will it like the one you sent me on “what is under the kilt?
[The intersection of Malcolm and tech stuff: Malcolm is no tech head.]
Listening to Conroy the other night he seems to have all the tech stuff within his command.
poroti,
Oz and NZ netball ain’t netball no more. I used to barrack for the Thunderbirds way back when. The best GA I have seen was that slight red-haired lady who took no time to line up her shots.
Club competitions, like football, are suffering from people being “traded” all over the place. I’ll watch internationals now, not club matches.
[Is the Finnigans retro news articles being sent into the twittervers?]
yes
Gillard’s hypocrisy stripped bare by her defence of demonstrable misogyny – CHRIS KENNY Australian 13/10/2012 – http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/gillards-hypocrisy-stripped-bare-by-her-defence-of-demonstrable-misogyny/story-e6frg6zo-1226494312712 … bwahaha
mari
[won’t give me a shock will it like the one you sent me on “what is under the kilt?]
Och no lassie. It will confirm what we all know. The Scots invented modernity 😆
Someone earlie linked to a Q&A by Nate Silver see –
http://deadspin.com/5960364/skew-yourselves-nate-silver-is-here-to-answer-your-questions
To one question he offered the following.
“I talked to folks at the Romney campaign maybe 3 times throughout the campaign, and the Obama campaign maybe once or twice. All very brief conversations.
As I’ve thought more about my role, I’ve become less and less interested in speaking directly with the campaigns. They’re just trying to spin you, most of the time, so the value of “insider” information is generally limited to negative IMO.”
It would appear that Mr Silver is much smarter than the average journo here in Australia who believes that a claim to be an insider adds value to whatever rubbish he is sprouting at any particular time.
Mr Silver, it appears, has recognised very early on that those advancing their own self interest are very likely to indulge in spin (in it most negative conations) rather than provide worthwhile and relevant information for the benefit of the consumers – ie you and I.
One in this country only has to review the stories of the restoration of Rudd to the ALP leadership or the avoidance of those less than adequate aspects of Abbotts leadership to see everyday examples of our crop of scribes being led by the nose to the fairy tales put out by the PR departments and away from what is really important.
We are not well serviced by the “fifth estate” in the country.
Finns
Chris “Little Face” Kenny is a blight on journalism.
[is it possible for bass striat to be widened
i wish so,, less mainlander s
just saw the abc christmas giving tree start
where it was expressed tasmania is the richest state
becauce we all look after each other]
Good rack off, take your 5 HoR Reps and 12 Senators, your State Govt and Local Govt and float off into the Antarctic.
Let us now when you miss us, we won’t miss you. BYE.
zoomster, they’re nice consolation prizes. No, better than consolation prizes….the real thing.
Catch you later, it’s fish and chip night and our local does dead set terrific fish and chips.
Note to William,
Would it be possible to ask the coders that if you click on a link here on PB, it opens a new window? PB has so many useful links to weighty articles that it would make more sense to open them and then come back later. As it is, I’m constantly forgetting which window will back up to PB.
POROTI I see the first one is on the clearances in the highlands, that was shocking I went to a little church up in the highlands that the B&B lady told me about, the poor people took refuge in a church in 1844m after the Earl of Sutherland decided sheep were more valuable than people. They scratched their marks and sentences into the window glass, which is still there, an enterprising reporter from the London Times came up and reported on it(brave man different to the journos out here now) they were still ceared most went to Nova Scotia in Canada which is very similar to Scotland eg the dales,glens and brooks
[Would it be possible to ask the coders that if you click on a link here on PB, it opens a new window? ]
cc, right click on the link, your browser can do that, open to a new tab or a new window
This little black duck
[
poroti,
Oz and NZ netball ain’t netball no more]
At the risk of sounding like an old fogie the recent introduction of the netball equivlent of 20/20 is an abomination.
I sat in a room with Conroy and a journo once – a relatively humble one from the local paper.
Conroy talked telecommunications, in depth and (as far as I could judge) with great understanding, for well over half an hour.
He knows his onions.
[poroti
Posted Friday, November 16, 2012 at 7:53 pm | PERMALINK
mari
won’t give me a shock will it like the one you sent me on “what is under the kilt?
Och no lassie. It will confirm what we all know. The Scots invented modernity ]
Thank you my bonny man, will watch it, from ye wee lassie