The electorate of Parramatta has existed without interruption since federation, shrinking over time from Sydney’s broad north-western outskirts into the immediate area of the town itself. It presently extends from the Parramatta town centre southwards to Granville, westwards to Wentworthville, northwards to Carlingford and eastwards to Rydalmere. This area is distinguished by a high level of ethnic diversity, being home to particularly large Chinese, Indian and Lebanese communities.
Parramatta was once a conservative stronghold, having only been won for Labor prior to 1977 with the election of Jim Scullin’s government in 1929. Notable members included Joseph Cook, who held the seat for its first 20 years and served as Liberal prime minister from June 1913 to September 1914; Sir Garfield Barwick, member from 1958 to 1964, who served as External Affairs Minister and Attorney-General in the Menzies government before going on to an immensely controversial tenure as Chief Justice of the High Court; and Philip Ruddock, who began his parliamentary career after winning the seat at a by-election in September 1973, adding 7.0% to what had been an extremely narrow margin in 1972.
The watershed in the seat’s history came with a redistribution in 1977 that effectively changed the existing seat’s name to Dundas, of which Philip Ruddock became the inaugural member, while creating a new seat of Parramatta that extended deep into Sydney’s Labor-voting west. The newly safe Labor seat was won by John Brown, the Hawke government Tourism Minister remembered for his dislike of koalas and inappropriate use of his ministerial desk. Brown resigned as minister in 1987 after admitting (which he would later retract) that he had misled parliament, and he was succeeded in Parramatta by Paul Elliott in 1990.
Redistributions in 1984 and 1993 returned the seat to the marginal column by pulling it back to the east, reducing the margin to 1.0% ahead of the 1993 election. Elliott was able to increase his margin on that occasion, but he was unseated by a 7.1% swing in 1996. Incoming Liberal member Ross Cameron held out against a relatively mild swing of 1.1% in 1998, and further survived a highly unfavourable redistribution that pushed the electorate southwards in 2001 by picking up a swing of 3.6%. Shortly before the 2004 election he felt compelled to tell Fairfax’s Good Weekend magazine that he had committed numerous infidelities throughout his married life, and he emerged from the election as one of only three Coalition members to have lost their seat.
Labor’s new member was Julie Owens, classically trained pianist, former chief executive of the Association of Independent Record Labels and member of the Left faction. Owens faced an early challenge when another substantial distribution ahead of the 2007 election pushed the seat back to the north, but she easily accounted for the notional Liberal margin of 0.8% with a 7.7% swing consistent with the western Sydney trend. The redistribution pendulum swung heavily the other way when the seat absorbed the northern half of its abolished southern neighbour Reid ahead of the 2010 election, boosting the margin to 9.5%. There were suggestions this might result in Owens contesting Greenway, which took over the western end of the old Parramatta around Pendle Hill and Kings Langley, with Parramatta going to Owens’ factional mentor, Reid MP Laurie Ferguson. However, Ferguson was instead accommodated in Werriwa and Owens stayed put, surviving a 5.5% swing that reduced her margin to 4.4%.
The Liberals have preselected Martin Zaiter, a 29-year-old partner in a local accountancy firm, who was chosen ahead of a field that included the unsuccessful candidate from 2010, engineer Charles Camenzuli. There has been ongoing speculation over the years that Ross Cameron might seek a return to politics, but invariably in relation to other seats.
Btw I reckon Abbott is an equal opportunity thug. As soon as he became LOTO, Rudd crumbled
Puff
Its the media groupthink. They are blind to Abbott flouro vest stunts.
Only see the PM’s as long as they can find a negative.
Greensborough Growler@44,
An interesting point was made in the reporting today that one of the crowds of ranting and rioting Muslims had made up an effigy of President Obama with a noose around his neck. Forgetting entirely that the President is the first African American to hold the esteemed position and what the history of that country was before he got there.
“Abbott softens ‘dirt unit’ claim” article from Michelle Grattan has been edited since it first came out, on site, this morning. This critical final line to the whole story, in which Ms Ramjan get’s her say on why nothing has been heard from her before, has been deleted.
[Replying to Mr Abbott’s point that she had not put the story on the record before, she said she had told it to more than one journalist but it had not been used.]
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/national/abbott-softens-dirt-unit-claim-20120914-25y7a.html
victoria,
I, too, was at Sydney University from 1977-1981, at the same time as the young Mr Abbott. His Thug Life was notorious. However, he was a smart thug, not a dumb thug. Which is why I guess he has survived and prospered to this day.
Don’t. Let’s get to carried away i happen to know some great
Gentlemen who attended jesuit schools, who are good husbands. Fathers and. Good men of the
Highest. Order, including my three nephews
Please don’t put all people educated by jesuits in the same square
Que? He’s running away from it at a million miles an hour because it’s a lie. A real one.
Ctmomma
It is the scumbag’s quietly voiced heckling of the PM when she stands at the dispatch box which hardened my loathing when I read about it in the Ann Summers piece. That is disgraceful behaviour, and ties back to the reports of him and his goon quad (I want o know who they were!) standing outside the women’s meeting room at that conference, yelling crude sexist jokes.
my say
Yes a very good point. Generalising is dangerous when it comes to groups of people.
It is to be remembered. However in this case I feel no one is attacking Jesuits generally. Just Abbott in particular using a Jesuit saying to reflect on the character of that one man.
my say
I agree. It does appear that Abbott’s generation of Jesuit educated politicians are all ratbags.
My oersonal experience of education in a Jesuit school has been exemplary.
my say
I agree.
Weren’t some good Labor men Jesuit schooled?
C@tmomma read the bit that has been deleted from the article that I quote. Has it been killed because it reflects badly on the journalists?
my say,
I’m not saying all Jesuit-educated children turn out the same as Tony Abbott. I am merely making the point that Tony Abbott wishes us to excuse his behaviour at University but, because Jesuits say ‘Give me the child and I will give you the man’, it follows that Tony Abbott cannot run away from his University behaviour because that ‘childish’ behaviour WAS that of the man. According to the Jesuitical arm of Catholicism, which he follows.
CTar1,
I suppose it would be the politically correct thing to do. So, no!
[Replying to Mr Abbott’s point that she had not put the story on the record before, she said she had told it to more than one journalist but it had not been used.]
It’s one thing to back away from never ending support of Abbott, it is quite another to admit it. After all the press is also fighting for survival. Admitting that in trying to set the agenda they destroyed their profession is a bridge too far.
joe2,
Probably. 🙂
And also because, without it, Abbott is still able to credibly run his line that, if the incident occurred why didn’t Ms Ramjan go to a journalist and why didn’t it appear in the press, as he has always been a public figure of some notoriety?
Good morning everyone!
Greg Sheridan’s op-ed piece in today’s OO makes this observation:
[The DLP had no presence on campuses in the 70s.]
Which IIRC is starkly at odds with the recollections of commenters here who were around in those days. The whole article is designed to make it appear as if the questions over Abbott’s character are somehow a communist conspiracy. For good measure he throws in a few digs at the ABC.
Do people really pay for this stuff?
http://www.theaustralian.com.au/opinion/columnists/selective-cold-war-memories/story-e6frg76f-1226474491943
confessions
If you have not seen the tweets from Eric Campbell re Sheridan’s latest contribution. Go back on previous page
Hate to put a dampener on things in relation to Biffo Rabbott, but our local Kerry Stokes rag, the West, has not one mention, repeat, not one mention I can find in nearly 100 pages of Abbott’s wall punch and associated goings on.
It is as if the West has decided it is not worthy as a news item at all.
Interestingly, yesterday, at the one hour “Friday Free For All” conservative love-in on 6PR local stand-in morning shock jock Rob Broadfield, (though must say he is a long way ahead of Paul Murray in the reasonableness area) virtually poo-pooed the whole topic as some kind of beat up and sanctimoniously wanted the “press to lift its game” and “concentrate on matters that really are important for the electorate”.
The only problem with this was that when the PM was facing the conservative media not so long ago in her hour marathon, Paul Murray had Julie Bishop singing the “there are more questions to answer” line, while Murray in his usual up-himself way, claimed that the PM had “talk the Canberra Press Gallery to a standstill” and implied all the journos there were being snowed by the PM.
He also implied that if he were there, he could have given the “true” picture.
Meanwhile, Labor turncoat/reject/pompous/know it all/sexist Larry Graham – on this same segment then – implied there was “more out there” as well, and that he “knew” there were some “diaries” where the truth was outlined, written by some union hack years ago. When questioned about the “diaries” he claimed they were “destroyed” at the time of the death of said union hack.
However, again, yesterday, he, Graham darkly mentioned “there was more to this story” – meaning I know what.
On balance, it looks as though the “It happened too long ago, during the mad student days” theme is what is alive and well as far as the West and local Red Neck radio is concerned.
The line was, “Oh, if everyone had to be accountable for things said and done while a student, nobody would go into politics.”. We all know this is worthy and we all agree with this lofty sentiment, but it did not seem to cut much ice when the PM was under the pump. The rank hypocrisy of the conservatives never ceases to amaze me.
I think I can safely vouch that the Biffo story has not caused a ripple here let alone gain one more vote for the progressive side on the back of it.
Speaking of people hiding their true nature, Campbell Newman has proven his honesty matches his compassion:
[“Despite all the hype and the hysteria, not one permanent employee has been ‘sacked’ as a result of the budget process,” he said.
Mr Newman said employees deemed to be surplus to requirements had a choice about whether to be redeployed to another position or to take a generous voluntary redundancy payout.]
http://www.brisbanetimes.com.au/queensland/noones-being-sacked-newman-20120914-25w4i.html#ixzz26UM6kyyF
They are not sacked, merely presented with a choice that does not involve keeping their jobs. I think at the next Qld election many LNP backbenchers will not lose their seats, merely choose to concede before the vote is finalised.
[“Abbott softens ‘dirt unit’ claim” article from Michelle Grattan has been edited since it first came out, on site, this morning.]
I think it’s BB who has noticed this before with Carney articles.
Tricot
I agree. The votes to the progressive side are changing in Qld, and to a lesser degree in NSW and Vic, thanks to our state coalition govts.
thank god someone has got it fredn, I was quite shocked when I realised a bit had just disappeared from the article. I went back on other laptop and found original words in history.
victoria:
Good on Eric Campbell!
Tricot
The good news is that punchgate has made headlines in the Eastern Suburbs. Along with cuts to public services being linked between State and Federal Coaliton.
So while no gains in the West many may be made in the East. Just by how much remains to be seen.
Guytuar
The. Journalist email address is near his name
Think its time we wrote and ask
For further explanation. of woeful
Just had a new follower a Man called Johnson the Federal candidate for Lalor, don’t think he can count on me being a follower. Doesn’t say even what party he belongs to.
Tricot
Oh dear I am sorry I meant Eastern States not Eastern Suburbs. Local was in the autopilot.
Confessions
[The DLP had no presence on campuses in the 70s.]
I can’t strictly contradict that because I started uni in the early 80s, but the DLP loons were still around then. I remember being criticised by some for suggesting the Vatican II reforms in the catholic church were badly needed and didn’t go far enough. Maybe I was dreaming. If it wasn’t reported in the Oz I guess it mustn’t have happened.
Interestingly c@tmomma, re Obama, a Kansas Repug governor and backer of Romney had been considering a birther claim in respect of keeping Obama off the ballot in Kansas.
Kansas Birther Case Ends After Joe Montgomery Withdraws Objection to Obama On Ballot
Apparently the complainant — Joe Montgomery, has withdrawn his complaint but contrary to the HuffPo headline, the Kansas Objections Board is seeking “further information”.
[The state Objections Board — consisting of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer and Attorney General Derek Schmidt — voted to delay a final decision, saying it needed more evidence and would reach out to Hawaiian officials for certification of the president’s birth certificate, along with officials in Arizona and Mississippi. The board expressed concern that Obama’s campaign did not appear before the board and only sent a letter with its position. Obama’s campaign attorney Kip Waitscott wrote the board that Montgomery’s objection was “baseless” and that Obama’s eligibility has already been determined by state and federal courts.]
Amusingly, Mongomery claimed:
[Montgomery told The Huffington Post Friday afternoon that public reaction to the complaint led him to decide against continuing. He declined to say exactly what was said in the calls and emails he received, but indicated that people who knew him both personally and professionally were also contacted about the complaint.
“I didn’t file this objection with the desire to involve anyone else. This is me expressing myself on a personal political level,” he said. “I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.” {…} More in Entertainment
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.Kansas Birther Case Ends After Joe Montgomery Withdraws Objection to Obama On Ballot
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A Kansas resident has dropped his objection to President Barack Obama appearing on the state’s ballot. A Kansas man who filed an objection with the state to President Barack Obama appearing on the state’s ballot, is withdrawing his objection.
Joe Montgomery’s decision, which he communicated in an email to the secretary of state’s office Friday afternoon, ends a process that caused the all-Republican Kansas Objections Board to vote unanimously Thursday to seek further information before making a decision on whether Obama could be on the ballot.
Montgomery told The Huffington Post Friday afternoon that public reaction to the complaint led him to decide against continuing. He declined to say exactly what was said in the calls and emails he received, but indicated that people who knew him both personally and professionally were also contacted about the complaint.
“I didn’t file this objection with the desire to involve anyone else. This is me expressing myself on a personal political level,” he said. “I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.” ]
If significant numbers of well-armed people in the US were not suffering from socio-spatial/existential angst directed at, inter alia black people, this might be borderline funny. As things stand, it is deeply troubling.
I can’t think of any Labor leaders who were Jesuit educated. Chifley was almost certainlt taught by the Sisters of Mercy and had little or no secondary education (i womder how he pronounced the 8th letter). Keating was taught by the De La Salle brothers until he was 15. Rudd had 2 very unpleasant years with the Marist brothers until he went to Nambour High. (note how one is educated by the Jesuits but taught by the brothers).
Seriously we should be telling these journalists what we think
The first thing i do when reading a piece is tocheck their email address
A dose of reality from Peter Hartcher this morning:
http://www.nationaltimes.com.au/opinion/politics/wanted-message-in-a-battle-20120914-25xpx.html
Oakshott
And your point. Is ?
Maxine Mckew’s book will make uncomfortable reading for 99% of you here:
http://www.news.com.au/national/claims-julia-gillard-was-deeply-involved-in-rudd-sacking/story-fndo4bst-1226474480101
William: serious request — please delete last post … I didn’t intend that all that spam be included:
Interestingly c@tmomma, re Obama, a Kansas Repug governor and backer of Romney had been considering a birther claim in respect of keeping Obama off the ballot in Kansas.
Kansas Birther Case Ends After Joe Montgomery Withdraws Objection to Obama On Ballot
Apparently the complainant — Joe Montgomery, has withdrawn his complaint but contrary to the HuffPo headline, the Kansas Objections Board is seeking “further information”.
[The state Objections Board — consisting of Secretary of State Kris Kobach, Lt. Gov. Jeff Colyer and Attorney General Derek Schmidt — voted to delay a final decision, saying it needed more evidence and would reach out to Hawaiian officials for certification of the president’s birth certificate, along with officials in Arizona and Mississippi. The board expressed concern that Obama’s campaign did not appear before the board and only sent a letter with its position. Obama’s campaign attorney Kip Waitscott wrote the board that Montgomery’s objection was “baseless” and that Obama’s eligibility has already been determined by state and federal courts.]
Amusingly, Mongomery claimed:
[Montgomery told The Huffington Post Friday afternoon that public reaction to the complaint led him to decide against continuing. He declined to say exactly what was said in the calls and emails he received, but indicated that people who knew him both personally and professionally were also contacted about the complaint.
“I didn’t file this objection with the desire to involve anyone else. This is me expressing myself on a personal political level,” he said. “I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.” {…}
Montgomery told The Huffington Post Friday afternoon that public reaction to the complaint led him to decide against continuing. He declined to say exactly what was said in the calls and emails he received, but indicated that people who knew him both personally and professionally were also contacted about the complaint.
“I didn’t file this objection with the desire to involve anyone else. This is me expressing myself on a personal political level,” he said. “I would appreciate it if people would not call anyone associated with me, whether a personal or professional association.” ]
If significant numbers of well-armed people in the US were not suffering from socio-spatial/existential angst directed at, inter alia black people, this might be borderline funny. As things stand, it is deeply troubling.
Greg Sheridan is looking more than a little unhinged today. More like a bit demented.
Weird isn’t it the idea that any deity of any description could be less offended by the killing of a person than the showing of a film or the words people say, or whether a person uses birth-control? A deity can’t be offended, by definition, because he/she/it is a deity and therefore above the puny machinations of mere humans. I thought that up there at number one for anyone seeking a religious based life would be not murdering their fellow humans.
The. West is. Behind the east
Did i read you do t have Sunday trading
Hartcher and reality. An oxymoron.
He did not bother to mention that BOF announced cuts to education this week and not before the council elections. I daresay that what have made a big difference?
Also, the supertrawler was indeed good politics. Poor hartcher
LOL peter hatcher
The local election were last week and o’farrell has sacked and cut education spending
Good try thornleigh labor man
Hatcher hasnt come out of his hole from last week
My say you’re the one who said that some Labor leaders were educated by the Js. Can you name one?
Well, at least the East is getting right Vic and guytaur.
I thought there would be one item – but nada!
Interestingly the local cartoonist Alston, who can be funny at times, has gone over to the dark side and on any occasion he can, sends up the PM. I have no issues with this other than he has nailed his flag to the Liberal side and he is getting nasty as much as funny.
I think many here have made the point that the damage being done by Liberal/National premiers is working a treat for Labor and not too much should expected from Biffo Gate. However, it does call into question – again – and more openly – Abbott’s fitness.
Depressingly, some talk back callers yesterday – and yes women among them – thought Abbott was wonderful.
Then again some still think Stalin was a cuddly and caring leader!
Socrates:
A PBer was at university with Abbott (albeit I think a year below him), and I’m sure confirmed the presence of the DLP at that campus.
Uncomfortable reading. Why? It is no secret that Rudd was dumped.
Yeah nice try to be a copy of Rummels their TLM.
Puff
Yes agree. In this respect I do see Islam as being like the Christian Religion in the dark ages. Luckily most of those people that think their deity has to be protected violently are the minority or things would be much much worse.
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zoomster
[Looking at Abbott’s record over a lifetime, as he invites us to do, demonstates one thing absolutely: he’s never faced up to the consequences of his actions.]
And it is long past time that he did.
No. I. did not
As. We here in. Tne south only have. Chritian bros.school
4 lab. Premiers. Adpp and governor
Victoria
In regards to O’Farrell, the ALP have John Robertson. It doesn’t matter how deep he cuts, as the alternative has no moral authroity. Newman is a different story due to the fact there is no opposition in Queensland, he’s broken a firm promise and Queenslanders view of the public service (although I should point out that federally, the ALP have to do much more than hold the line north of the tweed)
He’s right on the super trawler. Rudd got right in behind Melissa Parke and Burke and most of the ministry got scared of the media jumping all over it
Say no more!