Newspoll: 56-44 to Coalition

James J reports Newspoll has the Coalition lead steady at 56-44, from primary votes of 28% for Labor (down three), 46% for the Coalition (down two) and 11% for the Greens (steady), with “others” for some reason hiking five points to 15%, which GhostWhoVotes tells us is the highest since February 2006. Julia Gillard is up two on approval to 29% and one on disapproval to 62%, while Tony Abbott is down two to 30% and up four to 61% – apparently his worst net result ever. Even so, his lead as preferred prime minister has opened from 39-36 to 40-36.

Also out today:

• The weekly Essential Research has Labor recover the point it lost last week to trail 56-44, from primary votes of 33% for Labor (up two), 49% for the Coalition (steady) and 10% for the Greens (steady). Further questions find 53% thinking it “likely” an Abbott government would introduce industrial relations laws similar to WorkChoices against 22% unlikely, and 37% thinking “Australian workers” would be worse off under Abbott against 32% better off. There is also a rather complex question on amendments to surveillance and intelligence-gathering laws.

Morgan face-to-face, conducted over the previous two weekends, has two-party preferred steady at 54-46 on previous-election preferences and down from 57.5-42.5 to 57-43 on respondent-allocated. On the primary vote, Labor is up 2% to 31.5% and the Greens down 2.5% to 12%, with the Coalition steady on 43%.

Preselection news:

Newcastle (NSW, Labor 12.5%): Labor’s member since 2001, Sharon Grierson, has announced she will not contest the next election. The Newcastle Herald reports the front-runner to succeed Grierson as Labor candidate is “her long-serving staffer and Newcastle councillor Sharon Claydon”. The Liberals have preselected Jaimie Abbott, principal of media training company Gold Star Media who has worked in the past as a public affairs officer with the RAAF, media adviser to Paterson PM Bob Baldwin, and television and radio journalist.

Petrie (Qld, Labor 2.5%): Sandgate Pest Control managing director Luke Howarth has won LNP preselection from a field of ten candidates, emerging a surprise winner over the John Howard-endorsed John Connolly, former Wallabies coach and unsuccessful state candidate for Nicklin.

Rankin (Qld, Labor 5.4%): Jamie Walker of The Australian reports David Lin, Taiwanese-born founder of the Sushi Station restaurant chain, will take on Craig Emerson after winning LNP preselection from a field of six candidates.

Melbourne Ports (Vic, Labor 7.9%): NineMSN reports that the Liberals have again preselected their candidate from 2010, Kevin Ekendahl, a manager at non-profit social enterprises organisation Try Australia.

Throsby (NSW, Labor 12.1%): Bevan Shields of the Illawarra Mercury reports that Mark Hay, military prosecutor and son of state Wollongong MP Noreen Hay, has announced he will not as rumoured be launching a preselection challenge against Stephen Jones in Throsby, as he is about to take a posting with the Royal Australian Navy.

Author: William Bowe

William Bowe is a Perth-based election analyst and occasional teacher of political science. His blog, The Poll Bludger, has existed in one form or another since 2004, and is one of the most heavily trafficked websites on Australian politics.

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  1. BB @ 5447

    [Just listening to 2UE in the car…..

    All negative. Not one positive thing. And not one thing about the Opposition. It’s assumed they’re perfect. ]

    If there was a balanced MSM the ALP would be 58/42, if the current bias was reversed it would be 68/32.

  2. Morning All (buenos dias Queenslanders 🙂 )

    Personally I think Eddie, Leila and Andrew did a pretty good job – it was frustrating they missed a few countries focusing on Australia too much. Great to hear it’s the first Olympics at which every country has had a female competitor.

    Early sporting mentions to Japan for rolling Spain in the Football, Senegal for drawing with the Great Britain and Im Dong-Huny from South Korea who set a new world record in the archery despite being legally blind – amazing effort

    Either way, off to a good start, back to sleep for me and ready to cheer on the athletes of the world – especially the Aussies – once the real action starts this evening.

    p.s. technically not politics but once the poll (pole) vault starts it will be relevant 😉

  3. kezza2,

    [scorps

    I got unfriended by Frank!

    I’m not on myfacespacebook.
    But I got banned from his website.

    Does that count? ]

    Only if he skites about it gleefully, numerous times on PB. 😉

    I was shattered, I tells yuh. Shattered!

  4. vic
    [Speaking of Frank]
    Lest you think I was having a shot at him earlier, I think Frank does a sterling job both personally and as the most stalwart of ALP stalwarts.

    Good on him.

    Yesterday, I signed the petition he linked and read all the articles.

    I’ve tried to talk to my Lib-voting friend about the NDIS – she has a severely disabled son (Rasmussens) but she’s so worn out looking after him, she’d never even heard of it! Her husband’s no better. Would never give Labor kudos for anything.

    Will email Frank’s links to her.

  5. kezza2

    Not at all. I too appreciate Frank’s passion and loyalty.

    Your friends hopefully will appreciate being enlightened about the NDIS

  6. Yet another reason why I think the US is a sick society. Batman killer likely to face death penalty

    The guy is plainly nuts and no civilised society would contemplate executing someone who was mentally ill no matter what they did due to the obvious diminished responsibility.

    A civilised society behaves like the Norwegians did and like Australia did over Port Arthur. While the US continues to behave like this and ignores the underlying reason why it has so many gun deaths it remains a very sick society.

  7. Ha ha
    and still the outrage continues against Can’tDo.

    [If the LNP are bright, they would organise a leadership challenge and send this out-of-his-depth premier to the back bench where he belongs. With three years to go before the next election, may God bless us all
    Comment 150 of 156

    PaxUs of Brisbane Posted at 9:19 AM Today
    Everyone has a bad week. Just make sure it’s not a bad year! Remember, you’re only in power because of the backlash against the ALP, not because the LNP are popular. Keep that in mind …. continually.
    Comment 151 of 156

    peter of hervey bay Posted at 9:19 AM Today
    Campbell is doing a great job and is human like the rest of us. If you have never done any thing wrong or made a mistake then you can run him down. Otherwise shut up, nobody is effect.
    Comment 152 of 156

    Mark Posted at 9:20 AM Today
    Before the election Newman said the public service would be bigger. He lied. He has sacked 4400 with another 20000 to go. If Bligh lied, then so has Newman except he has been destroying livelihoods for 1000s of people. Newman said no cuts to front line services yet he has axed services up and down the state. Newman lied.
    Comment 153 of 156

    GCB of Brisbane Posted at 9:27 AM Today
    Howard increased the Medicare levy, (was it rescinded ?) to fund the useless gun buyback.Now all Premier Newman is suggesting is a similar Federal “tax” to help fund a Disability program . A much more worthy cause which I would support totally unlike the buyback previously mentioned .
    Comment 154 of 156

    Observer of Queensland Posted at 9:28 AM Today
    He has turned-out to be a dud, just like Rudd. The only difference is Newman has done it in record time.
    Comment 155 of 156

    johnh Posted at 9:30 AM Today
    How long before you backflip too, Campbell?
    Comment 156 of 156]

    http://www.couriermail.com.au/news/queensland/premier-campbell-newman-experiences-the-week-from-hell/comments-e6freoof-1226437109035?pg=2

  8. bemused,
    As was commented upon by John Barron on Planet America last night re gun violence in America: since the Colorado massacre another 200 Americans have lost their lives due to gun violence. However, no one in America is giving a toss because it wasn’t a massacre, just day to day murder. 🙁

    Which is why I am so distressed by the increasing power of the Gun lobby in Australia. Laura Tingle’s father, were he alive, should have hung his head in shame for starting a political party based around Shooting. It was all downhill from there for NSW.

    The Gun lobby appear to have Tony Abbott’s ear as well. Sigh.

  9. kezza2,
    I particularly liked this comment, which seamlessly linked the Jobs for the Boys & kids of MPs, to the Queensland Public Service cuts and NoCanDo’s smack in the face to the Disabled:

    State protector Posted at 12:54 AM Today

    Dear Mr Newman. I really understand what it’s like to have a week like yours. If its any comfort, I just lost my beloved job through the harsh job cuts you have imposed across the sector. I feel lucky I have no disability like a colleague of mine who does and who will be hard pressed to find another job. Mr Newman please stop talking down our state economy and seriously question the self-imposed stooges advising you. When you surround yourself in “yes…can-do..people” you lose candid advice. Already the loss of truly independent and candid advice across government is astounding….I just hope you have a posse of people to remove the sugar-coating!!

    Gold Medal!

  10. C@tmomma @ 5467

    There are two issues that intersect with this latest massacre, America’s mad gun culture and America’s penchant for executing the mentally ill.

    Both are just indescribably sick.

    I have done a bit of shooting and no serious shooter would think an sort of self loading rifle with a large magazine capacity was required for any serious sporting shooter. Likewise, handguns. These are just tools for mayhem.

    I see no prospect of an Australian gun lobby with anything like the power of the US gun lobby emerging and I don’t see our laws taking a backward step.

  11. Kezza2:

    [I wish you’d take on Andy Semple, Assistant Managing Editor of Menzies House]

    I didn’t realise that he was the one trading under the twitter nym “@BULMKT”. Back in the day when I spent a fair bit of time at the #auspol hashtag I regularly traded remarks with him.

    Eventually, I tired of his arrant and insistent stupidity. I do occasionally respond to recklessly foolish people, but after a while the sheer futility and boredom of the exercise and the appeal of speaking with those who bring something novel and salient to a conversation bring it to an end.

    Browsing your link to Mr Semple, I’m reminded of why I stopped paying attention to him.

  12. Will some more stupid, recklessly foolish people stump up to the PB site so that Fran doesn’t have to go through the boring and futile process of answering their stupid posts?

    I have already volunteered.

    Who will join me?

    Youse too will be able to say youse were there on St. Crispin’s Day.

  13. Just watching the Olympic Opening & the bell.

    As no one’s posted it yet; the inscription on the bell, Be not afeard; the isle is full of noises/ Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.

    is spoken by Caliban in Shakespeare’s The Tempest III (ii) – a fitting inspiration for the ceremony as it was conceived, as you can see. Here it is in full:

    [Be not afeard; the isle is full of noises,
    Sounds, and sweet airs, that give delight and hurt not.
    Sometimes a thousand twangling instruments
    Will hum about mine ears; and sometime voices
    That, if I then had waked after long sleep,
    Will make me sleep again; and then in dreaming,
    The clouds methought would open, and show riches
    Ready to drop upon me, that when I waked
    I cried to dream again.]

    It was my Senior set play. I’d hoped for one of the Tragedies or Histories (we’d had As You Like It for Junior); yet fell irrevocably on love with that most lyrical of Sweet William’s plays.

  14. Another good one from Mike Carlton this morning. I suppose it has already been mentioned but at the risk of repeating, here it is again. Bob’s your uncle in Labor’s civil war
    He has not stepped back from his criticisms of Gillard:

    Here are two examples of how the Prime Minister gets the communication thing so badly wrong.
    The Temby report into the Health Services Union detailed the biggest scandal in the union movement since the Melbourne Painters and Dockers were shooting each other a few decades ago. It required a strong response from Julia Gillard, along these lines:
    ”As Prime Minister, I am dismayed and angered by the sleaze and corruption Mr Temby has uncovered in the HSUeast branch. I am especially angry for those low-paid workers in our hospitals whose hard-earned union dues, millions of dollars, have gone to line the pockets of greedy manipulators who betrayed their trust. Without pre-empting the police inquiries, I want to assure those workers and all Australians that my government will see justice done and will ensure this sort of scandal can never happen again.”
    Instead, on the TV news that night we got:
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    ”It’s clear there have been real problems at the Health Services Union.” And that was it.
    The second example was her handling of the Tory premiers’ cynical refusal on Wednesday to stump up a few million dollars for trials of the National Disability Insurance Scheme in their states. Bob Hawke or Paul Keating would have flayed them alive, especially Barry O’Farrell, whose penny-pinching meanness was a disgrace. For whatever reason, Gillard didn’t or couldn’t do it. There was a mild reproof of sorts, but nothing more.
    Perhaps it’s her legal background that makes her seem so dispassionate and uninvolved. That’s fine in a courtroom, but not when you are trying to drag your primary vote somewhere north of 28 per cent.

    He reported, interestingly, on Labor ‘True Believer’ reaction:

    A few Labor people took aim at the messenger. Others whacked me with ”et tu, Brute”. The latter were mostly women passionate that Gillard must be supported – because she’s a woman, apparently – even as she rides the bomb to the ground.
    The majority response of the true believers was pride in the government’s achievements and despair at the failure of the Prime Minister to sell them on the front foot, thereby allowing Tony Abbott and his media claque to define the battleground. Reluctantly, they recognised that Gillard must go sooner or later for the good of the party and to give Labor a fighting chance of saving the country from a reactionary Abbott interregnum.
    The striking thing: in the hundreds of emails there was zero rank and file enthusiasm for the return of Kevin Rudd. None at all. Some thought a Rudd second coming inevitable – another shot of the good ol’ detailed programmatic specificity, gotta zip etc – but they feared the explosive effect on cabinet and caucus, with Wayne Swan and other senior ministers heading for the exits.
    The real eye-opener was a groundswell of support for Bob Carr as leader. Here was Labor’s most successful campaigner, they said, a consummate media performer and an elder statesman respected on all sides.

    Nice to see PB debates echoed out there in the real world.

    Carlton seems to have swung in favour of Bob Carr taking the Labor leadership and goes on to discuss the obstacles to this.

    Well worth a read.

  15. Meguire Bob @ 5477

    Yep gillard and labor are still winning, according to bemused statements

    Pardon?
    Where did I say that? I did not express an opinion on that issue, I merely reported what Mike Carlton said and he most certainly does not thing Gillard is winning anything.

  16. [Will some more stupid, recklessly foolish people stump up to the PB site so that Fran doesn’t have to go through the boring and futile process of answering their stupid posts?

    I have already volunteered.

    Who will join me?

    Youse too will be able to say youse were there on St. Crispin’s Day.]

    👿 😀 😀 😀 👿

    Youse iz a seriously wicked bowman, BB!

  17. Meguire Bob @ 5477

    Actually, if you are interested where I stand, it seems I am in the majority reported by Carlton.

    The majority response of the true believers was pride in the government’s achievements and despair at the failure of the Prime Minister to sell them on the front foot, thereby allowing Tony Abbott and his media claque to define the battleground. Reluctantly, they recognised that Gillard must go sooner or later for the good of the party and to give Labor a fighting chance of saving the country from a reactionary Abbott interregnum.

    I am certainly not in the idiot group he described as:

    A few Labor people took aim at the messenger. Others whacked me with ”et tu, Brute”. The latter were mostly women passionate that Gillard must be supported – because she’s a woman, apparently – even as she rides the bomb to the ground.

    Fortunately, as he noted, there were only a few such responses, unlike on PB where this suicidal group appears to dominate.

  18. Doyley 5448
    $850 a year for the NDIS sounds like a lot more money than the cost of a coffee or a beer a week, which is why media put it that way. Any levy would, as has been said several times here, be leapt on with the coalition not far behind. Interesting though that the rabid radio taunts Gillard as not having the guts to introduce one. How many thousandths of a second do you think it’d take them to reverse their position if she did?

    Oz Pol 5433
    Pleased to find another Great Western enthusiast. Brunel was indeed a true visionary, but locomotives weren’t his strong point. He saddled the GWR with a right collection of wrecks until Daniel Gooch took control of the locomotive department.

  19. Bushfire Bill,

    Will some more stupid, recklessly foolish people stump up to the PB site so that Fran doesn’t have to go through the boring and futile process of answering their stupid posts?

    I have already volunteered.

    Who will join me?

    Sorry, life’s too short to waste it on condescending elitists who spend their time attempting to predispose others to thinking THEY have all the answers.

  20. I hope it does not happen but if JG was to stand down or be deposed I hope we don’t waste anyone useful for the future.

    Bob Carr or Shorten would be suitable for now.

  21. bemused,
    How then do you explain the fact that, within 24 hours of an outright refusal by O’Farrell & Baillieu, the Prime Minister had them exactly where she wanted them stumping up the cash for the NDIS Trial Sites which they were unable to find the day before?

    You call that failure?

    Put the fangs away, bemused.

  22. I am not a fan of Shaun Carney as a rule, but he does have some interesting comments today in the Age. Party of the people beaten by the people of the party

    The media refers to people who favour the status quo as Gillard supporters. More correctly, they are Rudd opponents; few among them are sticking with Gillard because they see her as a skilful or able prime minister. Their goal is to stop Rudd from getting back in charge.

    Says it all really.

    If the media ignores it, it will not go away. The fact is that government MPs are resigned to an inevitable loss next year under Gillard. This is not the only thing they talk about but it is one of the only things they talk about. Whether it leads to Rudd’s restoration is an open question. Perhaps it won’t.
    But the question of what will happen to the Labor Party and the legislative achievements of the Gillard government after next year’s election, which at this stage looks like ushering in an Abbott government with a massive majority, control of both houses and a determination to wipe out Gillard’s program, is something worth contemplating.
    In the face of the caucus’ abject despair so far out from the election, it’s interesting to consider how history will judge this generation of Labor Party MPs, a majority of whom appear inclined to sit pat and essentially do nothing, waiting to be swept into the ashcan of history.

    Sad but true.
    I could weep for my party that it has come to this.

  23. C@momma @ 5484

    bemused,
    How then do you explain the fact that, within 24 hours of an outright refusal by O’Farrell & Baillieu, the Prime Minister had them exactly where she wanted them stumping up the cash for the NDIS Trial Sites which they were unable to find the day before?

    You call that failure?

    Put the fangs away, bemused.

    Improve your reading comprehension skills and direct your inquiry to Mike Carlton.

    He merely described a lost opportunity to flay them.

  24. bemused:

    [A civilised society behaves like the Norwegians did …]

    Very much so. The Norwegian Labor Party-led government (“the Red-Green Alliance*”) drew the admiration of all of us seeking a more humane polity. I have no Norwegian relatives or friends, but at that time, I’d have loved to be able to have called myself Norwegian. The anti-Breivik demos outside the courthouse went no further than to call for him to apologise. People apparently complained when one newspaper described him as porky, insisting that this was unfair. Their prison system focuses on rehabilitation. Whale policy aside, they seem an admirably sensible lot.

    Back on the Denver shooting, it seems to me that there are several predisposing factors in the whole spree killing problem they have.

    1. Necessary (but not sufficient) condition — easy access to firearms and ammunition
    2. The view that proficiency in the use of firearms marks one as both an authentic male and an authentic American
    3. America’s status amongst its people as the most important country in the world
    4. The notion of America as a nation consecrated by God
    5. The largely religious framework within which education if the poorest parts of the country takes place
    6. Angst over the apparent decline in relative status of America held by large sections of the population
    7. Marginalisation, alienation amongst large layers of the population and the connection of this sentiment with one’s own personal circumstances
    8. The lack of an effective welfare system and the disruption of the older unofficial community safety nets existing in small communities by urbanisation, demographic change and modernity more generally
    9. The particularly poor provision for those who are dealing with mental health issues

    It seems to me that none of the items in the above list really would suffice to make events such as this occur, but put together, what we have is a dangerous cultural cocktail which will produce events of this kind on a regular basis.

    Almost all, if not all of the shooters are male. I can find only three spree killers (people shooting randomly in a public place as distinct from trying to kill specific people) who were female in the last 50 years (and a couple of those aren’t quite random). The vast majority are also of anglo-celtic descent and would have seen themselves as authentic Americans. (The Virginia Tech shooter would have been an exception). Almost all of them felt in some way rejected by their chosen community and were suffering from quite serious mental illness. One of the women shooter — San Marco — was both mentally ill and a hardcore racist. The charged man in this latest was receiving treatment for illness, apparently.

    The NRA has been brilliantly successful in making gun possession and operation so quintessentially American that a consensus aimed at curbing ubiquity is likely to prove impossible, but there can be little doubt that the campaign (as distinct from the weapons themselves) is at the core of much of the problem — not merely of spree killing events but of gun homicides more generally — gang murders, drive-by shootings and so forth. Family annihilators are big too.

    The big surge in spree killings comes in the 1960s — roughly 20 years after the end of WW2, the beginning of the Cold War and then Vietnam. This radically disrupted the US, and its view of itself and it is hard to imagine that this wasn’t a predisposing factor mapping itself onto other forms of marginalisation in America.

    The seriously punitive paradigm within which the US operates invites large sections of the population to identify justice in general with getting personal justice. I’ve lost track of the times that some hero in an American movie or TV show says “this time it’s personal” and picks up a gun to “get even”. I’m not proposing the hackneyed “media causes violence” thesis, but merely note that these themes re-appear because they exist within the chosen identity of many Americans. Historically, the development story of European America is one of being cast out of Europe and then carving out a new life in a land that was alien, in which they could rely on little but their own wit and perserverence and perhaps the handful of others like them in the same place. That makes the notion of justice and right a very personal thing, often tied in closely with the idea of drumhead rules.

    It seems to me that this is why comparisons with other countries with apparently equal or higher levels of gun ownership and similar wealth fall down. If gun homicides in general and spree killing in particular are to be kerbed there will, IMO, need to be a coextensive process in which Americans reinvent themselves as committed to their wider community — humanity — and give up on the idea of personal justice. The place will have to become secular in practice (as opposed to secular in theory) and above all they will need to begin overcoming the radical inequity marking US society, especially in areas such as housing, health and education. Oh … and as part of that, they will need to make possssion of firearms and ammunition a lot more rare. For those obsessed with the Second Amendment, they could for a start require that all who possess guns participate actively in “a well-regulated militia” that is committed to exclusively lawful and collective conduct.

    *Here the Greens are the centre-right party — focused principally on environmnetal matters)!

  25. [Carlton seems to have swung in favour of Bob Carr taking the Labor leadership and goes on to discuss the obstacles to this.

    Well worth a read.]

    Carlton is highly amusing and a very witty writer who has the gift of distilling an absurdity into its most concise form.

    He is often wrong, but hilariously so, and thus forgiven by many of his readers.

    There is no way that changing leaders now will help the ALP. The benefits of it would be illusory in the extreme. That the Tories actively spruik for a leadership change is enough for me to realise it’s exactly what they think will kill Labor.

    But there’s a lot more reasons why a change would be wrongheaded: giving Abbott another scalp, feeding the media meme of an ALP out of control etc.

    The Liberal poison is doing its work already with the pathetic showing by their state Premiers and the buyer’s remorse now being routinely being expressed from Melbourne to Cairns.

    Good, sound Labor policies are starting to settle in. Sure, there’s an element of stubbornness in many voters’ minds. They’re not going to go back on their oft-expressed “hatred” for the “backstabbing”, “lying” Gillard just yet. They’re not going to give up their misery at what they claim to believe is the terrible state of the economy so quickly.

    But I have no doubt that the error of voting with a baseball bat instead of a stubby pencil will start to sink in and ultimately gain momentum. Ask any of the thousands of public servants that have been sacked in NSW and Queensland whether they regret their vote for the LNP.

    Then ask any of the many tens of thousands more public servants about to be sacked (if Abbott becomes PM) if they’re as gung-ho for the federal Liberals as perhaps they once used to be.

    Ask the disabled. Ask the motor vehicle industry workers who’d now be out of a job. Ask the companies that have invested in good faith in renewable energy projects that will have these cut off at the knees if Abbott gets in. Ask the country towns actually benefiting, or about to benefit from the playing field levelling NBN. Ask the low income workers who take home more pay from the rescheduling of the tax free threshold.

    Will they sacrifice all this simply for the gut feeling of grim satisfaction of voting for the Coalition – two parties that have virtually no costed or even coherent policies – faced with what they will lose?

    A lot of the “dysfunctional” air about the government revolves from various “scandals” that have enveloped it. But wait until the full import of Ashby and Jackson finally sink into their brain.

    Can’t be too long now. Jackson has had her money cut off, and I can’t believe that Ashby’s backers are going to send more millions after the already wasted pro bono moolah on an ill-fated Constitutional challenge that claims there are no longer any official secrets, and that there is no longer any comfort from confidentiality. Ashby will fold, and beg forgiveness. He may have to surrender up a scalp or two before he’s finished grovelling.

    The slightest sustainable improvement for Gillard in the polls, taking pressure off her, puts double that pressure on Abbott’s own leadership. Every point she gains will have the effect of two pointslost on Abbott.

    What was supposed to be a quick war of manoeuvre, over before Christmas 2011 in Abbott’s mind (and many others’), has turned into the grim reality of a thousand miles of muddy trenches, a war of attrition that only the strongest and most determined can win.

    Gillard is a fighter and she won’t lie down. The more the voters recognize that and act on it with their voting intention (they already do recognize it, which is why the shock jocks and the tabloids spend so much time claiming the opposite) the more they will respect her and fear the alternative.

    As time ticks away the chances for any successor to make a fist of the Prime Ministership will fade in proportion. The Independents have indicated they are ready to bring the government down. Half the Cabinet (if not more) will desert, broken-hearted.Many of Labor’s staunchest supports will do likewise.

    For Labor to do this damage to itself once was a disaster.

    To do it twice – repeatedly swap leaders looking for a focus group advantage – looks like a mental health problem… particularly as it has never worked, not once, with the single exception of Bob Hawke taking over from Bill Hayden thirty years ago next year. A lot has changed in political dynamics in thirty years. Too much to ensure a guaranteed repeat of Hawke’s success, especially with all the failures in-between to disprove the theory.

    If Labor is going to lose the election – and I don’t believe they will – then they may as well lose with their dignity intact. Any new leader may enjoy a week of sunshine before the media reinstates it particularly self-harming version of political nuclear winter. It’s self-harming because they are trying to wreck our economy, our confidence and our institutions simply because they don’t have the wit to be anything else than victims.

    Think of the media in their cosseted cocoons. They think they are rugged up with high salaries and perks while the companies they work for go down by the bow, their share prices tanking on a monthly basis, with monotonous regularity. Just as to a hammer everything looks like a nail, to a journalist everything likes like a disaster, because they are living in the middle of disasters at Fairfax, News and the TV stations. Why not share the misery?

    I’m not one for changing course now or in the future. If there is an iceberg to be hit, then trying to steer away won’t help now. It’s too late. The Gillard experiment has to be seen through to its natural conclusion, although just what that conclusion is to be is in doubt.

    Labor can’t afford another self-immolation. There’s too much at stake with Abbott and potentially six like-minded state Liberal premiers vying to outdo each other in a race to the bottom as the alternative.

    The public has tried baseball bats and look what they got. Time to put the bats away and engage the brain instead. Not everyone will do this, but I believe enough will.

  26. OzPolT and BSA Bob

    Ah – Brunel and the GWR.
    I spent many hours of my childhood travelling between Cornwall and Devon by train across Saltash Bridge. AFAIK the story was that he committed suicide by jumping from the bridge becasue he wasn’t sure it would hold. Perhas it was merely “money troibles” and this was a myth.

    My grandfather worked as a signalman for Great Western Railways and always swore it was the best of them all.

  27. [I am not a fan of Shaun Carney as a rule, but he does have some interesting comments today in the Age.]

    NOTHING Carney writes is in any way sensible, especially when it comes to commentary about the Labor party. He’s still smarting from his wrong-headed support for Peter Costello (he literally wrote the book on Costello).

    He’s a big Labor hater from way back, trying to disguise it with flowery words and fake, concern-troll disappointment.

  28. Jeezus bluddy christ.

    you turn your back for a minute and out comes of the Labor
    leadershit again.

    heralded by hands-outstretched innocent “who me?” I’m only reporting what the journos say.

    Did you overlook the leadershit stuff on CanDo, bemused?

    Or can you ever only quote those who support your determination to bring JG down?

  29. [ bemused,
    How then do you explain the fact that, within 24 hours of an outright refusal by O’Farrell & Baillieu, the Prime Minister had them exactly where she wanted them stumping up the cash for the NDIS Trial Sites which they were unable to find the day before?

    You call that failure?

    Put the fangs away, bemused. ]

    The first robject of negotiation is to get what you want.

    The second object is to let the other side believe they got something too: win-win.

    All the rest is sour grapes.

  30. BB @ 5492

    Yeah right BB.

    What is sentiment in your ALP branch at present or are you just a commentator like your despised Carney?

  31. [BB @ 5492

    Yeah right BB.

    What is sentiment in your ALP branch at present or are you just a commentator like your despised Carney?]

    I’m not a member, and wouldn’t want to be if they’re anything like you.

  32. Kezza2

    it will come out because Gillard has won this week and is on top, she made the pro coalition media look like fools

    newspoll weekend is next week, so the old rudd chestnut will make a reappearance

  33. [Little big man Newman is giving us a sneak peek at what life under Abbott would be like.
    Uggghhhh!!!!]

    A point that should be made again and again, explicitly.

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