The latest fortnightly Newspoll sees Labor’s 51-49 lead last time obliterated by a six-point shift to the Coalition, with Labor’s primary vote down four points to 32 per cent, the Coalition up five to 45 per cent and the Greens steady on 12 per cent. Large amounts of tosh were written about the Labor lead last fortnight, even though a lack of corroborating evidence from other polls made it clear enough the result was an aberration. No doubt there will further over-analysis of this correction – probably over-correction, with the New South Wales state election perhaps injecting a bit of static into proceedings. On the primary vote, Labor is down four points to 32 per cent, the Coalition up five to 45 per cent and the Greens steady on 12 per cent. Julia Gillard’s lead as preferred prime minister has narrowed from 50-31 to 46-37.
GG
“Suck it up princess” would have been worse.
Chiming in late SK — had to actually do some work!!!!
Yeah — it is sad, but it is the way of the world, I’m afraid. Aussie book retailers are just too expensive. I buy all my books from the Book Depository — and pay less than half Aussie prices (shipped free) and right now with the good Aussie dollar, they’re even cheaper!
vic,
They’re soft. I reckon if Rudd does come back, it’ll be “no more Mr. Nice Guy”!
Actually GG I am not an anti Ruddster. I like the man and will be ever grateful to him for getting rid of Howard. But I am of the school which believes he could not have won in 2007. Others will disagree.
GG
How can Rudd make a comeback if his own party did not want him last time?
Darn
I think you mean 2010?
Not winning hearts and minds in Iraq
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A secretly filmed pic. of the verbal abused heaped in Iraq recruits for the police force… by a US military officer/instructor….calculated to alienate them all !!
Probably filmed in secret…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYqBsBmGHjw&feature=rec-LGOUT-exp_fresh+div-1r-3-HM
Yes. Thanks Victoria. I think I would have to concede that he might have won in 2007.
Diogenes: the big problem I’ve always had with the McDonald case (and others like it) is that it lays the blame at the feet of one person and absolves the other from taking ANY responsibility for their own health.
In this day and age there is no reason for anyone to have unprotected sex with anyone, let alone someone they don’t know. In the event that they do catch a sexually transmissible disease (or any disease that is transferable through close contact) is it really fair to blame the victim – someone who is already unwell – rather than admitting they are BOTH a pair of clunkheads; one for not telling the partner of his/her communicable disease and the other for not insisting on infection barriers?
End of rant 🙂
vic,
Politics is about interests. The indulgence in personality politics is quite a new phenomenon.
People can and do come back. Churchill was a Minister during the First World War, lost his seat and was in and out of parliament inn the 20s, was yesterday’s man in the thirties. Yet is regarded as one of the greatest PMs in British History.
(BTW he was a bastard too).
When the the right circumstances present, Rudd will come back.
According to SKY he’s called for a ‘crackdown’
jen,
Riding a bike lends itself to that sort of rhetoric.
Victoria
I cannot help but laugh at your comment
“I notice that Abbott always waits to see which way the wind is blowing. God forbid if he were our PM. He would be three days behind everyone.”
Wasn’t this what everyone said about Gillard and the focus group monkeys that Arbib trained?
As for having more position on Carbon tax
Rudd said Gillard told Rudd to say no to the ETS
Then Gillard said no to the Carbon Tax
Then Gillard said yes to the Carbon tax
Then Gillard said she prefer the ETS
Gillard has adopted every position under the sun possible
…except to make one further point. 😉
I am old enough to remember the first reporting of AIDS in the gay press and then the subsequent publicity (much of it over-the-top hysterical) as it moved from just a “Gay, So Who Gives A Shite” disease, to something that could affect any of us via the blood supply or unprotected sex.
There was one very clear message in one of our most famous HIV education ads, and that is that you aren’t just sleeping with one person; you are potentially sleeping with all their previous partners as well. It was a potent image and the point was well made.
In addition, there was an education campaign amongst the gay community (I was heavily involved with ACSA at the time) to not trust people who told you they were negative; assume everyone was positive, use a condom and take ownership of and responsibility for your health status.
I am deeply concerned that this message will be diluted by this court case and that people can believe that, in the event they are infected, they can just blame the other person and take no responsibility themselves.
And that really is the end of the rant 😀
gee i have been away from here for a couple of hours and YOUR s t i l l t talking rudd
dont let the liberal suck you in you never know who is reading,
ANY WAY abbott and turnbull thats a bigger story may be
dovif,
By the time the next election comes around the Carbon Tax will be implemented for over twelve months and confused sods like yourself will be embarrassed about all the angst you caused yourself.
to busy peddling to even know more like it bet he doesnt have the trannie ear phones in when ridding bit har to manage the both
to busy peddling to even know more like it bet he doesnt have the trannie ear phones in when ridding bit har to manage the both
Was just speaking to the guy on the hotline for the NSW government’s solar energy rebate scheme.
Conversation went well for while – advantages of solar panels, public perception of doing good etc. etc. – until I mentioned Global Warming.
Long silence at the other end of the phone line.
“Well of course, ” he said, “The science is pretty evenly divided, though the newspapers only give one side of the story. Actually, it’s pretty clear that the Earth is cooling.”
I said, “That’s a strange statement to come from someone who works in clean energy for the state government.”
“Mate, it’s a job.”
Just, wow…
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but has he discussed it with Mr. James
dovif
You still think mining employs gazillions of people. That was the real laugh. 😆
Dovif and others … you need to differentiate between position on a personal level, and the party’s position.
Just because the Liberals have 15 different positions over everything and get away with it, doesn’t mean Labor is permitted to (by the commentariat and opinionistas).
If one were to compare Abbott’s prevarications and Gillard’s supposed position changes … you’d see quite quickly that Abbott is all over the shop, personally and politically, whilst Gillard follows the party;s agreed stance in each case (it isn’t proven by any means that she was one of the ones who supposedly forced Rudd to dump the ETS … and even if she did, she was likely thinking politically rather than personally).
The other thing that really gets my goat is the double standard that it is great for Abbott to be a wily politician, and to behave with political expediency in mind … but when Labor does it, it is some kind of moral crime!
Is this because Labor is seen and expected to have a social conscience, when the conservatives are not?
Shock Jocks in the USA
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In the USA the worst of them all…Glen Beck on Murdoch TV .. has been dumped.
He has been under attack for some time,and it’s good news all round.
Interesting rumour…it’s said tbhat he had angered Murdoch wife Wendy,who was a fierce critic of his racist attcks on Obama.
Wendy Murdoch,is of course Chinese,….and said in a recent book to be well to the left of Rupert(but isn’t everyone!)..and has grown to be embarrased among her New York circle of friends by Beck’s racist outbursts and his links with the Murdoch Empire.
Perhaps we should direct her attention to Bolt !
SEE also a book “Rupert’s Adventures in China ” on the hopes Murdoch once had for China(with which his wife still has many ties )
Will we live to see Murdoch’s demise(soon please !!)and the rise of..”…. “NEWS(Shanghai)LTD”…
BB
then what did he say,
jen,
I expect it’s because he is the Opposition Leader and he has to put the opposing view.
With the ADF matter, I suspect the Libs were looking for a political angle to get at the Government. Minister loses his cool was the best they could go with.
I see Joe Hockey is attacking Swan over the ASX decision. Will he change his mind by tonight or tomorrow?
dovif
you must be confused. Abbott says one day he believes in man made climate change, then the next the science is not settled. Then on other occasions it is absolute crap. Then on other days, he nods his had for 2 minutes rendered speechless.
oops – head
Well, it was a bit embarrassing for both of us by then, but he did add,
“Look, I’m assuming this conversation is off the record. Right?”
“Of course. Of course it is.”
“It’s just that you never know who’s listening. They record these conversations, you know.”
“Yeah, I knew that, but do they check you out for ideological correctness too? I though it was just an efficiency thing.”
“Gotta go sir, but let me say, the walls have ears around here lately. OK?”
At that point we rang off.
Wow — the ABC petition thing is coming up the ranks — now 69th, with 180+ votes!
http://suggest.getup.org.au/forums/60819-campaign-ideas/suggestions/1684971-petition-for-abc-to-return-to-its-charter
for those who don’t know about it!
ruawake
everyone else including stockbrokers are happy with Swan’s decision. Hockey may be getting a memo soon. 🙂
Re the ADF and Tony Abbott: that is the Coalition’s modus operandi these days.
Every issue has the Dries saying something outrageously over the top, the Wets saying something more moderate and then Abbott weighing in a few days later once he’s sniffed the wind. This ensures:
1) they have covered all bases. Each voter will hear their own position on an issue parrotted back to them by some Coalition MP, thus leaving you with the impression that the Coalition understand where you are coming from; and
2) Tony is on the side of public opinion on issues, so he is seen to have his finger on the pulse of what people want. The fact that he has taken days to say anything is either not noticed at all or forgiven.
I cannot believe that NOT ONE of our benighted media has called them on it. Oh, WFT am I saying? Of course I can. The average year 12 student has better cognitive skills than our media.
Sad, but true.
Danny Lewis
the msm know full well. It suits the narrative to ignore.
No longer do you have to listen to right-wing talk radio.
Chicagos Progressive Talk – Listen Online
Danny
McDonald lied to them and said he didn’t have HIV so they were safe. His actions knowingly put partners at risk of a fatal illness. He deserves his time in jail. If one dies, they should do him for manslaughter or murder.
ALP national secretary nominations open
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011/04/08/3186328.htm?section=justin
Darn
No worries. I think we are on the same page, as someone once said, even if we are on different pages.
Dio
Cf McDonald. What you said.
victoria
Maybe the head of foreign exchange and global finance at Deutsche Bank had a word in his ear?
Abbott’s backroom boys did some focus groups and would have sussed the degree of anger out there.
Abbott knows that he cannot afford to piss women off more than he has already, and that the slightest hint that he is not 100% supportive of a young woman will blow up like a landmine in his face.
Foregone conclusion: Mr Abbott plumps for sticking it the ADF.
Meanhile, back at the front, Mr Minchin and Mr Johnson are running interferance for Mr Abbott on a wink, wink; nudge, nudge basis – we are with you all the way, boys. Labor hates the military. Just vote for us; we will look after you.
Diogenes: I agree that it was wrong of him to lie about his HIV status.
HOWEVER, that does not mean they should have taken his word for it. At the end of the day, we are ALL responsible for our own health.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but don’t all you doctors make patients sign consent forms first indicating they understand the risks of undergoing certain procedures? If a patient didn’t sign it, there would be no procedure.
That’s not a million miles away from this. If the men concerned has refused to have sex with him unless there was a condom involved there would have been no problem. They either would have used the condom or gone without.
I’ve got to say that I’m somewhat surprised to see you coming down so strongly on McDonald. Remember that he did use the “HIV doesn’t cause AIDS” defence. It may well be that he sincerely believes it.
Would have been better if Gillard didn’t go through a kama sutra of positions on an ETS or Carbon Tax and if she actually accepted something needed to be done on CC. Which she didn’t until forced by the Greens to actually have a position. Would have also been better if she hadn’t back stabbed Rudd and Labor into its current bucket of woes.
Julia Howard is finding it difficult being a Conservative but having to ape being Labor.
Morgan face to face LNP 55.5 ALP 44.5 (I assume William will adjust this slightly)
http://www.roymorgan.com/news/polls/2011/4656/
TP, let me guess GILLARD IS EVIL.
Dave I had a friend come to visit sorry for the delay in responding!
I know nothing of the kind!
Danny
He knowingly gave 8 people a fatal illness. The guy is a sociopath.
And the HIV doesn’t cause AIDS argument is a joke. He’s taking retrovirals so he doesn’t believe it himself.
According to the Morgan poll, the ALP and L/NP are up 1 point on the primary vote. The Greens are down 2 (probably due to the anti Israel stuff)
Gary Morgan is off with the pixies.
Er Gary what has this got to do with a poll conducted last weekend, before Rudd appeared on Q&A?
Spur212: the polls always go up when Tony goes AWOL.
It is a well-known phenomenon 😀
jen what a great thing.
gee peoples are to impressed with ulman and we thought it was just us