12.04pm. Those postal votes have been very favourable for Labor in Narre Warren North, increasing their lead from 804 to a probably insurmountable 1022.
11.30pm. Awaiting 830 postal votes to be added to the two-party count in Narre Warren North, which I would say is the only thing further we’re likely to get tonight in a significant seat.
11.23pm. 2475 postals added in Narre Warren North, increasing Labor’s lead from 773 to 804.
11.19pm. 2122 postal votes added in Macedon, reducing Labor’s lead from 741 to 719.
11.12pm. Labor leads by 225 votes (0.4 per cent) in Eltham, with 2013 postal votes added to the count.
11.09pm. Hadn’t heard anyone mention Eltham, but it seems Labor still only have their nose in front.
10.59pm. The VEC has added 1958 postal votes from Monbulk, and their lead is now out to 1.9 per cent.
10.53pm. Same story in Narre Warren North – the VEC has Labor ahead 773, the ABC has it at only 190, with much the same number of votes counted. The VEC has a booth on the primary vote that the ABC doesn’t have, and it’s increased the Labor vote 0.4 per cent and reduced the Liberal vote 0.3 per cent.
10.46pm. Actually, the VEC’s figures from Macedon aren’t more advanced than the ABC’s, they’re just different – both have almost exactly 30,600 votes added. So I’ve no idea why the discrepancy.
10.38pm. The ABC computer seems to have a more up-to-date two-party figure from Bentleigh than the VEC. 2538 postal votes have been added in this seat, whereas there are none yet in the other crucial three, but only half have been added to the VEC two-party count. The ABC however seems to have them all, and has the Liberals leading by 624 votes (1.1 per cent) rather than 213 (0.4 per cent).
10.28pm. Now looking at VEC figures, which are further advanced in Macedon and Narre Warren North and have Labor surging ahead in both, with respective leads of 1.2 per cent and 1.8 per cent.
10.17pm. Another Narre Warren North booth turns a 0.3 per cent Labor deficit into a 0.4 per cent surplus.
10.15pm. Antony also has Labor pulling negligibly ahead in Monbulk, with Daniel Andrews sounding confident – “maybe not even in the doubtful column”.
10.14pm. Daniel Andrews claims counts in all booths counted have Labor ahead in Macedon, where the ABC computer projects a 0.4 per cent Liberal lead.
10.11pm. ABC computer count in Bentleigh has caught up with David Davis’s – two booths left to report two-party counts, Liberals ahead 13,302 to 12,690, lead by 1.2 per cent.
10.09pm. Albert Park count goes from 45.4 per cent to 53.8 per cent, Labor lead goes from 0.3 per cent to 0.5 per cent.
10.03pm. David Davis’s latest figures from Bentleigh have Liberals moving further ahead – 11,892 to 11,175, or 1.6 per cent.
9.55pm. Ben Raue on the upper house:
On my count the Coalition has 21 seats out of 40 in the Legislative Council. Labor has at least 13, with the Greens on 3. In North and East Victoria, Labor is competing with the Country Alliance. Country Alliance will win in either region if the Greens knock out Labor, as Labor preferenced the Country Alliance ahead of the Greens. In South East Metro Labor is competing with the Greens, but I’m on the verge of calling it for Labor.
9.50pm. A run through the seats of destiny. Labor trails by 0.2 per cent in Monbulk with 67.5 per cent counted with one booth to come. In Bentleigh the ABC’s figures are behind what we were told earlier, which is that with most (all?) counting done for tonight the Liberal lead is down to 0.4 per cent. In Macedon too Labor trails by 0.4 per cent with one booth to come. Liberals ahead by 0.3 per cent in Narre Warren North with two booths to come. If Labor wins them all it will be 44-44.
9.48pm. Labor confirms it won’t concede tonight – sounding growingly hopeful of hung parliament.
9.43pm. Peter Reith has apparently criticised Antony Green on Sky News for calling the election too early – he’s only sure 11 seats have gone. If Labor can burrow ahead in Bentleigh, Macedon, Narre Warren North and Monbulk, it will a 44-44 hung parliament and a new election.
9.40pm. Labor hanging on to only a slight lead of 0.3 per cent in Albert Park with 45.4 per cent counted.
9.37pm. This is the first federal or state election since South Australian in 1993 in which no independent or minor party candidates have been elected to the lower house.
9.34pm. David Davis relates figures fron Bentleigh with Libs leading 10,303 to 10,129 – a margin of just 0.4 per cent.
9.06pm. With count up from 29 per cent to 35 per cent, Labor has gone from dead level in Albert Park to 0.3 per cent ahead, which Antony expects to continue.
9.02pm. If preferences had gone as they did in 2006, the Greens would be on 56.3 per cent in Melbourne, 52.5 per cent in Richmond, 51.0 per cent in Brunswick and 45.3 per cent in Northcote.
8.57pm. Daniel Andrews says computer is behind on Bentleigh – with one big pro-Labor booth to go, he thinks they could still get there, but with only limited confidence.
8.51pm. Antony can’t see the Liberals winning Albert Park, even though the computer has them 0.1 per cent ahead with 28.6 per cent counted.
8.50pm. Monbulk continuing to go back and forth, Liberals now in front by 0.2 per cent with 66.1 per cent counted.
8.44pm. Labor moves to the lead in Monbulk, by 0.1 per cent, as count progresses from 48 per cent to 65 per cent.
8.43pm. Labor now ahead in Albert Park by the skin of their teeth, after the count progresses from 14 per cent to 21 per cent.
8.41pm. Macedon count up from 56 per cent to 62 per cent, Liberal lead goes from 0.5 per cent to 0.6 per cent, ABC prediction goes from Liberal ahead to Liberal gain, though obviously not on much basis.
8.39pm. ABC TV has 26.3 per cent rather than 18.8 per cent counted in Bentleigh, but the Liberal lead is basically unchanged. But Daniel Andrews expects better of later booths.
8.36pm. If Labor can somehow fluke wins in each of Bentleigh, Monbulk, Macedon, Albert Park, and Narre Warren North, they would still have 44 seats for a hung parliament in the genuine sense of the term. But they’re behind in all. Might want to stop and note the fact that after all the new paradigm talk of late, we now have a Legislative Assembly with no cross-benchers.
8.34pm. Daniel Andrews not giving away Bentleigh, not unreasonably because only 18.8 per cent is counted, although the Liberals lead by 2.5 per cent. Albert Park count remains very slow.
8.30pm. ABC calling Ballarat West for Labor.
8.29pm. Liberal lead in Monbulk only 0.9 per cent, so if you subscribe to the theory they’ll do better on late counting you wouldn’t be giving it away.
8.28pm. ABC now calling Monbulk a Liberal gain.
8.23pm. Labor can’t afford to lose 11 seats, and 12 look definitely gone. Liberal leads in Macedon, Albert Park and Narre Warren North could yet be chased down if late counting does indeed favour Labor.
8.20pm. Albert Park count up from 9 per cent to 13 per cent, Libs still slightly ahead.
8.16pm. ABC calls Bentleigh for Liberal, Yan Yean for Labor.
8.13pm. Slow count in Albert Park.
8.12pm. ABC computer calling Bendigo East for Labor.
8.10pm. Liberals now ahead in Monbulk.
8.09pm. Still lineball in Narre Warren North, but Labor retains Narre Warren South.
8.08pm. Labor retains Ballarat East, loses Bentleigh, ahead in Ballarat West and Eltham.
8.07pm. ABC computer figures update!
8.04pm. Labor in trouble in Oakleigh as well.
8.03pm. Labor looking gone in Mordialloc, but the computer’s not giving it.
8.02pm. ABC party bods not ready to call Prahran yet.
8.00pm. Still waiting for ABC computer results to update …
7.59pm. Maybe Antony wasn’t quite calling it for the Coalition. Daniel Andrews not giving up South Barwon.
7.59pm. Antony calling Prahran and South Barwon for the Liberals.
7.58pm. Craig Ingram concedes defeat. Antony calls the election for the Coalition.
7.56pm. No good news for the Greens.
7.55pm. Labor now looking better in Geelong.
7.54pm. Macedon seems to be better for Labor now, but I say that without the benefit of booth matching.
7.53pm. Antony says he has his internet back, but the website figures haven’t updated yet.
7.52pm. Still tight in Narre Warren North; Labor ahead in Yan Yean.
7.51pm. Liberals home and hosed in Burwood.
7.48pm. No internet connection for the ABC due to technical problems at the totally unnecessary tally room. Liberals well ahead of Prahran, but this electorate is such that you’d need to look at the booth results. Liberals easily ahead in Mitcham and Forest Hill.
7.44pm. I’m counting 11 seats where the Coalition are ahead of Labor, with no figures in from Forest Hill and Mitcham which they will surely win, and nothing from Prahran and Burwood.
7.40pm. Geelong and Albert Park also tight, despite margins of around 10 per cent.
7.39pm. Early 11.5 per cent swing in Macedon – easily enough for it to fall. Narre Warren North lineball.
7.38pm. Labor ahead in Monbulk on early figures.
7.37pm. Labor holding firm in Bendigo East as well as Ripon. So Newspoll looking good, again.
7.36pm. Computer not calling it, but Labor well ahead in Mordialloc.
7.34pm. ABC computer not calling Mount Waverley, but Antony is.
7.29pm. However, Ripon called ALP retain, but Labor merely “ahead” in Yan Yean.
7.25pm. ABC computer calls Gembrook, Carrum and Seymour for the Liberals – the latter two make it very hard for Labor.
7.20pm. Phil Cleary bombing in Brunswick. Greens and Labor level pegging on primary vote.
7.18pm. ABC computer calls Gippsland East a gain for the Nationals from independent Craig Ingram. Labor ahead in Eltham.
7.17pm. Antony detecting overall swing of 6 per cent, more or less where this morning’s polls had it but better for Labor than the exit poll.
7.16pm. Sorry, had that the wrong way around – 65 per cent of those preferences went to LABOR.
7.11pm. Greens get 65 per cent of preferences from first booth reporting in Richmond.
7.08pm. Ballarat East being discussed on the ABC, which Labor weren’t worried about a week ago.
7.07pm. It looks to me like only the entry page on the ABC results is providing booth-matched 2PP results – click on the link and you get raw comparisons. So the swing in Ripon looks like 0.5 per cent and not 11.0 per cent, though it’s early days.
7.01pm. First booth in from Northcote has Greens primary vote on 50.14 per cent – but it’s a new booth, so we can’t match it.
6.59pm. Antony Green detects 7 per cent swing in the metropolitan area, 6 per cent in regional cities.
6.54pm. Antony Green sounding almost ready to call Gippsland East a Nationals gain from independent Craig Ingram.
6.52pm. Overall early swing seems to be under 4 per cent, but this is mostly rural booths where the polling suggested the swing wouldn’t be so big.
6.49pm. In yet more bad news for Labor, Electoral Commissioner Steve Tully reports the weather has hit turnout.
6.47pm. Tiny booth (203 votes), but 22.4 per cent swing against Labor in Ripon.
6.46pm. Five booths in from Mildura, and Nats member Peter Crisp has picked up a booth-matched primary vote swing of 24 per cent. So I wouldn’t bank on Glenn Milne causing an upset.
6.42pm. Two booths and 180 votes, but Craig Ingram down 12 per cent in Gippsland East.
6.40pm. An independent, whom I know nothing about, is supposedly in with a show in Essendon.
6.33pm. A tiny booth in Nationals-held Mildura (81 votes) has supposedly competitive independent Glenn Milne on 5.6 per cent.
6.27pm. To brace yourself for what’s likely to come, Madcyril in comments relates that according to the ABC, Labor is “worried” about Justin Madden’s seat of Essendon (11.7 per cent) – the sort of seat that fell in 1992.
6.19pm. Auspoll finds 11 per cent decided today, 9 per cent last three days, 10 per cent last week, 17 per cent last month and 52 before that – a high proportion of late deciders, if the shift to the Coalition hadn’t already made that clear.
6.13pm. It seems the Auspoll figures are a straight result from the 18 seats targeted, and that this included the four Labor-versus-Greens contests. The upshot of this is that the swing is 8 per cent, putting the Coalition on track for over 50 seats. Bruce Hawkins on Sky News putting vague hope in pre-polls lodged before the late swing favouring Labor.
6.02pm. Primary votes of 35 per cent, 45 per cent and 12 per cent, Brumby leads as preferred premier 43-35.
6pm. Sky News exit poll tips an easy win to the Coalition, with a two-party lead of 54-46. However, I can never be sure what these figures mean – this looks at the 18 most marginal seats rather than a statewide result. What we need to know is the swing. It should also be known that the pollster, Auspoll, has gotten it wrong before.
That’s pretty broad strokes. You may as well say “the polices that suck!” You don’t have any more detail than that?
I am predicting that Adam Bandt will be a oncer.
Glen
Once those small/non-party dudes get in, they can be very hard to shift.
glen,
Without Liberal prefs he is farqued.
The Greens cannot win Melbourne without Liberal preferences.
[BTW Since you know about filmsand festivals, did you know that Grog worked for the Feds in the film area of the Fed Arts Dept.]
Does that mean I can blame him for all the bad Australian films?
Glen,
I’m sensing a GG and G consensus. Gee!
GG
Do the Fed Libs decide prefs on a case by case, state by state or Australia-wide basis.
Diogs,
I hope so!
[1503 DiogenesPosted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 9:35 pm | PermalinkGlen
Once those small/non-party dudes get in, they can be very hard to shift
]
That’s gonna bite you on the bum in the 2013 WA State Election in the seat of Fremantle 🙂
Adele is as popular as a fart in a lift.
Frank
I think Adele might be an exception. She clearly shouldn’t stand again. She could potentially get the biggest swing against her of any member in history.
GG the fact is Tone was stupid giving the Greens preferences for 0 in return.
Bandt has no chance whatsoever of retaining Melbourne unless he gets preferences from the Liberal Party which now looks so unlikely given the VIC result. Hence Bandt can clean his office out the moment an election is called and he hasnt stitched up a pref deal with the Tories. The Libs are never going to win Melbourne but to preference the Greens for 0 just for the sake of removing a Labor MP for a Mellon one makes no sense.
Re: State Election…
Brumby now takes his place in history alongside other Labor luminaries such as Joan Kirner and Carmen Lawrence lol!
Glen,
Kennett lost three elections. Howard lost two.
Tell me about their luminosity.
SNIP: Little more maturity, please – The Management.
Lizzie
you say you dont understand , but then congrat a Green bloger rod Hagen
who reacts immediate re Greens criticism with clever nuanced words whether its Zoomster or any othr Labor blogger That some here fall for it is amazin
What GG and I is calling him out on is he is talking BS , tho with pretty nuance words
we got Abbott and Ballaeu accusing Labor of pursuing Greens Agenda’s and in a Labor/Greens alliance” WITH polls in Vic and Federally showing poor Labor 2PP , and peoples here cannt see a key cause and effect reason for that middle oz voters hav swung (from Labor) to Abbott and Ballaeu ….Greens whole Agenda is damaging to this criticol mass of millions of middle austalian Voters , polls in part show it
Well 2 smartest EVER labor tacticians in oz , Labors Robert Ray and Graham Richo both ex Fed labor Senior ministers (plus ex Labor Finance minister Lindsay Tanner) is saying same thing as me , as is 000’s of Labor voters directly ie Preferably put Greens last and differentiate Labor from Greens to voters
You can choose to ignore polls cause and effect , and ignore these Labor experts and beleive Green Rod Hagen whose Greens interst is NOT for Labor to retaliate in criticisng th Greens/changing its pref flows so that Greens can keep taking Labor votes by critical poparlisms of Labor polisys
SNIP: LOT more maturity, please – The Management.
GG Kennett still won two and Brumby has never won a State Election.
Oh come now George facts are facts he’s never won an election off his own bat.
However that being said he ran a more competent govt than Kirner and Lawrence combined.
[However that being said he ran a more competent govt than Kirner and Lawrence combined.]
And all three more competent than any Liberal.
[georgePosted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 9:47 pm | PermalinkBrumby now takes his place in history alongside other Labor luminaries such as Joan Kirner and Carmen Lawrence lol!
You really are a farqwit
]
Kirner and Lawrence were there to save the furniture after State Labor enddured financial scandals initisated by John Can and Brian Burke.
Brumby left the state in a good financial state.
Glen,
RE Abbott and Baillieu.
I’ve said already on PB that Baillieu’s victory was due to his call on the Greens and exploiting col issues.
Abbott’s lack of courage may well have cost him Governemt. Certainly, Baillieu will look Abbott in the eye and ask him what he did to make a difference.
From what I’ve seen as an outsider, the Brumby Govt is leaving with some goodwill and plenty of runs on the board. Sadly Howie’s Govt left under similar circumstances instead of being disgraced. And I’m sure that helped the Libs get very close in ’10.
[And all three more competent than any Liberal.]
Now who’s drinking the koolaid 🙂
Conviction?? lol
hello Green supporters you might have noticed but your vote was lower than it was in August.
The Greens were belted and in Melbounre are only a few points ahead of the Liberals and this I thought was the Greens strongest seat.
Yes I will grant that the Greens did break 20% in Preston which deserves credit but in places like Prahran and even Hawthorn along with Brunswick and Richmond we saw a Green flop.
Even up in the hills the Green vote declinded in the case of Monbulk by over 1% decline and this really should have been a good sort of seat for the Greens.
Overall a poor night for the Greens. if the Nats had lost the same amount of support we would be calling the final rights for them and saying they should merge with the Liberals.
Most swing went ALP -> Liberal
Greens ->whoppy custon
Dio
you really miss rattus, dont you?
🙁
[Now who’s drinking the koolaid]
I’m just doing what you do Glen – throw out crap and expect everyone to lap it up. Statistics, reality, record and fact be damned!
Okay explain where I have not been factually correct.
Answer me this question….
How many State Elections has John Brumby won?
Cath Bowtell would have made a much bigger contribution in three years than Brandt will in ten years.
Liberals what ever you do just learn one thing always put the Greens last.
[Without Liberal prefs he is farqued.]
Really? With a 36.2% primary, followed by 3 years of high-profile incumbency, including a share in BOP, sitting member advantage, and approx 3% extra from sex party and dems bascially guaranteed)?
Brave call.
eorge
Posted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 9:22 pm | Permalink
‘Labor is not Greens. Deal with this fact.
I can assure you that no one in Labor harbours any goodwill to the Greens.’
“…but to prove GG’s point, yesterday at the booth the Green’s guy said this to me: “we don’t care who gets in – as long as we can get 5 seats we’ll work with either side”.
As a Labor supporter, I felt like giving him $50 for his time talking to me. You know, like a prostitute… in the end they don’t care who they f-over, as long as they get what they want out of it. (being pinching Labor seats and Labor voters) ”
George well said
One more comment. I said at the time that changing the electoral system for the Legislative Council so that the entire Council was up for election at every election was a mistake, and now we see why I was right. Baillieu, who will probably have an Assembly majority of one after providing a Speaker, will also have a Council majority and will be able to do whatever he likes. Overlapping upper house mandates can be very frustrating, but they provide a necessary balance to lower house majorities. If upper houses just mirror lower house results, they might as well be abolished.
george,
Glen is exctatic that a party he didn’t vote for and has bagged unmercifully for years is now the Government.
Fair weather sailor is the common term.
mb
I think there’s a big difference between state and federal politics for the Greens.
State politics isn’t about ideologies; it’s about who will best run the basic services like health, transport, education, electricity etc. None of those things are areas the Greens are prominent in. I think they won’t increase their vote much in the states and we may well have seen Peak Green.
Federally they could keep going up though as the issues are more favorable there but they will always have a ceiling there because of their lack of economic credibility.
[How many State Elections has John Brumby won?]
Why does that mean he was a bad Premier? You really have no clue, at all. Not one ounce. Your ignorance is breathtaking Glen.
[george,
Glen is exctatic that a party he didn’t vote for and has bagged unmercifully for years is now the Government.
Fair weather sailor is the common term.]
It hasn’t gone unnoticed GG 😉
I think it is a bit rich to say Brumby was even close to being the worst premier in Victorian history.
His time never saw a recession
His time never saw a major industrial dispute
His time never saw a major financial or land scandle
His time was well regarded by the Business community
His time was seen as pretty good
“A DEFIANT Premier John Brumby has vowed to fight on until all the votes are counted.
Despite the huge anti-government vote and the seat of Bentleigh going to the Coalition late last night, Mr Brumby maintains Labor has a mandate to remain in power.
He is refusing to concede defeat until all of the 530,000 pre-poll votes are counted.”
Is this really the case? Surely not.
lefty e,
You haven’t been too good on the prediction field have you.
Gus
[you really miss rattus, dont you?
🙁 ]
Yep. Like a hole in the proverbial head.
[I think it is a bit rich to say Brumby was even close to being the worst premier in Victorian history.
His time never saw a recession
His time never saw a major industrial dispute
His time never saw a major financial or land scandle
His time was well regarded by the Business community
His time was seen as pretty good]
But he IS a Labor Premier, and in Glen’s book of NFI, that equates to a bad leader. Koolaid indeed 😆
Dio
I didnt know you were into trepanning
explains a lot, I guess
😉
Diogenes @ 1532
Exactly what I have been trying to think out and you have crystallised it for me. Thanks.
Many in the business community will be disappointed to see Brumby depart and I include many Liberal Party aligned people.
[lefty e,
You haven’t been too good on the prediction field have you.]
Im in good comapny there, GG. Weren’t “all the ducks lined up for a Brumby win” etc?
[Cath Bowtell would have made a much bigger contribution in three years than Brandt will in ten years.]
Get real. Bandt is currently having more one-on-one meetings with the PM per week than the Bowtells of this world could expect in a parliamentary term.
GG anything is better than Labor.
[From what I’ve seen as an outsider, the Brumby Govt is leaving with some goodwill and plenty of runs on the board. Sadly Howie’s Govt left under similar circumstances instead of being disgraced. And I’m sure that helped the Libs get very close in ‘10.]
Also what I was thinking. That and everything Peter Brent has said. This was a fine election for Labor to lose – and losing it by one seat, and thus keeping as many resources as they have, was the ideal way to do it.
[Mr Brumby is refusing to answer questions about what went wrong and remains confident Labor can find a way out of the problem and continue to govern.]
[Mr Brumby maintains Labor has a mandate to remain in power.]
That’s some serious denial going on there.
[GlenPosted Sunday, November 28, 2010 at 10:06 pm | PermalinkGG anything is better than Labor.
]
So stop the Bullbutter and admit you are a Liberal and be done with it.
[GG anything is better than Labor.]
Careful Glen, your panty line is showing…
STOP THE GREEN BASHING!!!!!
Lizzie and Dio yes I know federal politics is different but the Greens have in my view had it very good without having anything to show for it apart from a few nice sounding policies which they then claim to have mainstream for yet that support never appears at the polling booth.