Brendan Nelson has thrown the Liberal leadership open to a party room vote tomorrow morning. A source quoted by the ABC calls the move a “suicide mission” and “predicts Malcolm Turnbull has the numbers to take the leadership”. Nelson defeated Turnbull in the first round five days after the November 24 election by 45 votes to 42.
I’m not sure I understand the alleged connection between the US financial crisis and the Liberal leadership ballot.
Do you really think that if it were not for the leadership instability then the Liberals would be able to attack the Government regarding the sub-prime crisis? Do you really think the members of the press gallery, or the public, are stupid enough to entertain arguments that blame the Australian Government for the fate of Merrill Lynch?
Andrew! The Global Economy has a problem that is undermining it and it is the U.S and to a lesser exstinct the European
Housing markets are falling this has left a sea of dept.
You say that I should grow up for suggesting the Liberal Party should be focusing its attention onto Wayne Swan to ensure that the Australain Economy remains healthy, rather than focus on a leadership ballot brought on by the leader.
The voters out there want to hear their politicians speak about Economic security and how Australia will build on the currant boom not who is the most popular within the Liberal Party room.
Leyman Brothers is one of the larges financial sector companies in the world therefore its important to the global ecomony.
[Gotta love Tuckey:]
That reporter was lucky. I think Tuckey was still carrying his “ironbar” looking to bash the 3 traitorous Libs undermining Nelson.
Nick Xenophon is to oppose the Medicare Levy bill:
http://abc.com.au/news/stories/2008/09/15/2365365.htm
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Blaming Rudd for the fate of US Banks would certainly be innovative. LOL
No355,
He gets blamed for pretty well everything else. So why not?
There is no connection what so ever between the Liberal Party leadership ballot and the U.S Economic situation and there is no connection between the Rudd Government and the U.S crisis but has the share market declindes and the job market retracts people will want to know how the Government is reacting and what if anything the Liberal Party as the alternative Government have to say about the situation.
Politics is about preception and at the moment the Liberal Party seems more interested with itsself rather an than being an alternative Government.
I’m off to bed. I want to be fresh in the morning to watch the blood sports.
Sure hope ron’s ok over on the island though?
MB @ 357
Ever considered that perhaps getting a new leader is the first thing the Libs need to do before they can even start to be seen as an alternative government?
If not for the spill, what would you have the Nelson do tomorrow, given the Lehman Bros/Merryl/AIG news?
Bilson argued on Sky News with respect to private members bill.
The argument essentially was that the Budget papers had already been appropriated and hence any Coalition bill would merely amend the calculation of the pension, not appropriating new money. Thus, it is constitutional in the view of the Liberal Party.
JP! You have a point about moving to Turnbull may be the best thing to do!
You ask what would I do as Liberal leader, tomorrow every question in question time would be directed at Wayne Swan, I would want him to tell the parliament about what is the advice he has received from the banking sector, I would want to know what is he doing to ensure the Australian Economy is seen as healthy aboard and I would be wanting to know what is the Governments approach to any financial company that finds itselve in trouble, a Treasurer on his game will have no problem handling these questuions also has I wrote its about preception as an alternative Government looking like its ready to Govern
And talking about leaders – those who find it interesting listening to Keating’s take on things can do so here at this address of 12th to the Melbourne Writers Festival, he ponders on everything from Australia’s place in Asia, nuclear weaponry and the future of Kevin Rudd’s Labor government.
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http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/stories/s2362757.htm
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Paul Keating need not have any more of our attention. His insufferable arrogance reminds me of Germaine Greer.
He praises GH Bush and gets down on Clinton’s two terms and GW Bush.
Keating may well have been arrogant. He may well be bitter also.
Keating, however, was not pure evil.
Having watched Four Corners last night (Baxter and Woomera Detention Centres) I am more convinced than ever that Howard was a small man suffering small man’s syndrome. What a disgraceful, inhumane, dishonest little grub of a man he is. Phil Ruddock, along with the aforementioned little grub, should face the music. Rudd, unfortunately, hasn’t got the clackers to initiate a Royal Commission (a firing squad is more apt IMHO).
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Fortunately we do not depend on the Liberal Party’s idea of what is constitutional and what is not – there is a high court for that. And I for one would enjoy the entertainment value of the Opposition rabble (regardless of who is leading them) going down in a screaming heap because even after 12 years in Government they still don’t get how the place works.
Keating did mention the hundreds drowned and Howard in that presentation.
If Turnbull had won the leadership, after the election, I suspect he would be in a similar position to Brenda now.
All reports seem to be saying it will be close – exactly what the Liberals don’t need. The big problem is that the Libs are split and no amount of waffle will cure this.
Just put $20 on talcum Allbull. The Fibs cannot keep going with Brenda.
Ideal scenario for this biased Labor bloke: Nelson wins in a close one, Turnball is sacked from shadow cabinet and goes to the back bench, Nelson promotes some climate change sceptics/right wingers = a recipe for further Liberal Party infighting!
BRING IT ON!
Why would anyone in their right mind want to lead these self obsessed group of self interested members of mens clubs.
Poor old Malcolm, hes going to get flogged in the markets and he can’t win the day here. The problem all the Liberal contenders have at the moment is that they are still tainted with the stain of the previous government.
Has anyone had the heart to tell Brendan what a complete hypocrit he looks over this pension thing. Everyone I talk to says the same thing. “They were in for 12 years and they blocked the push before the last election and now they get their staffers to by plain label baked beans and carry on like cheap pork chops. Really”.
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That’s right, let’s just open up our borders for the whole world and forget about having standards for the type of people we want coming into this country….you lefties are simply contemptible.
We will decide who comes into this country and the circumstances in which they come!
“Federal Attorney-General Robert McClelland has welcomed the convictions of six men who were found guilty of forming a Melbourne-based terrorist cell.
Mr McClelland described the case, in which the jury found Abdul Nacer Benbrika guilty of leading a group of men to foster or prepare for a terrorist attack, as lengthy and complicated.
He has praised the cooperation of various agencies to secure the convictions.”
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008 … 365141.htm
Can you imagine what hysterics the Howard Government would have performed with these convictions. Minister after Minister would have been lining up to ramp up the fear monitor. Endless interviews would have been given squeezing every last drop out of this issue.
Isn’t it a joy not to have to endure those days any more.
What a delight it is.
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Let’s try that link again.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2008/09/15/2365141.htm
It never ceases to amaze that the right wingers have this whole groups of attitudes, Climate change deniers, racists, anti-immigration, anti-reconcilliation, anti our natural environment, usually carrying some strange delusional belief system, etc etc etc.
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Just what types of people were you refering to , white, christian, capitalists?
#373 ‘Attitude’ traverses all shades of the political spectrum.
Malcolm has won according to Skynews
News Radio reporting Nelson rolled.
Double Ouch! The Lehman Brothers bankruptcy filing is the largest in history. $613 BILLION! And it looks like Japanese and Chinese banks are the main ones left holding the can. How robust are those markets to withstand that kind of loss? The Chinese exposure doesn’t look good for Australia, unless they choose to invest here instead of the US. We must have some economists here to tell us how Oz will be affected. Or the infallible William could just pronounce…
Lehman Lists Debts Of $613 Billion In Chapter 11 Filing Monday
http://money.cnn.com/news/newsfeeds/articles/djf500/200809150751DOWJONESDJONLINE000296_FORTUNE5.htm
Will Malcolm do a cleanout of the front bench ?
You’re right there David, you should check out the face book of the Pineapple Party Member for Hinchinbrook, Andrew Cripps, his arrogance extends to calling himself ‘the Prime Minister for Hinchinbrook’. Turnbull at least is voted in to contest the job. Cripps is self appointed.
Gee it’s quick. Malcolm now is described as a “fresh air”. RIP Cossie, EmoMan.
Malcolm has won it.
Turnball Ha Ha Ha Ha
News Radio reports SMS messages from MPs saying Turnbull has won.
What about spineless? I thought he wanted to stop Turnbull.
45-41 change nothing
45-41 Ooops 🙂
Turnbull 45-41…..still close..
That’s some nice work, Brendan.
I guess spineless may now wait another 23 months and walk into the position (drafted) just before the next election. Not withstanding a DD.
I guess getting angry at the party room doesn’r pay off.
The media will now want to talk to Turnbull, there goes “the book”. Straight to the remainder stand.
Another monarchist bites the dust.
Well – 45-41 was probably the closest Nelson was going to get in a leadership challenge versus Turnbull.
If he had waited another few weeks, the margin would have blown out considerably…
Has anyone heard about the Deputy position? For that matter, Turnbull will have to move quicksmart to get front bench positions filled before QT at 2pm …. Not moving the TV channel from Sky today 😉 ……
Bishop retained deputy unopposed.
Ok. SKY has just answered that question .l… Bishop unopposed as the Deputy ..
I love it: Nelson’s suicide mission! I guess acting like the big man last night didn’t work out for Brenda LOL
Turnball really needed to win by far more than 4 votes! It’s still a divided Liberal Party room, and the far right won’t like Turnball presumably taking the Libs back towards the centre. I’d guess it’ll be far easier for Rudd now to get an ETS through parliament, and a few other budget measures? But, Turnball will be a more formidable opponent than Nelson – Labor better not be complacent!