Out of bed now, so I’m a bit late with the news that Morgan has completed a hat-trick of polls that have produced their closest result for the year just in time for polling day. Conducted last night, it has Labor ahead 53.5-46.5, their primary vote at 43.5 per cent (the lowest since January) and the Coalition’s at 41.5 per cent (highest since last November). The odd pollster out, ACNielsen, conducted its poll much earlier in the week.
In administrative news, I just did cleared out a huge volume of comments from moderation, so apologies to those who were held up there. Most of you were first timers you should be able to comment freely now. I’m off to perform my civic duty, and will have a think about how to handle the election night traffic on my return. I’m much preferring IRC to Meebo (see “Dress Rehearsal 3” post below) and beginning to think that alone should be enough to divert enough blog comment traffic to prevent my server from melting down.
so sky didnt even give a “who did you vote for” poll? what a waste of time then.
Bit of gossip on Solomon.
One of the strong liberal booths (which has a large army contingent) is “too close to call” at this stage.
It’s true that the Exit polls are innacurate to a point, BUT if Howard was going to win they would have showed a trend toward the Libs, which they haven’t It’s over.
John Hunt Is A Coward: “Did you think that deNial is a river in Egypt?”
Quote of the day!
Don’t think the precise numbers in the exit polls can be relied on, but the general trend can.
Good…my local booth is a strong liberal one…I was standing there with a solitary Labor htv card.
No wonder Howard is still going around his seat. He is Bill Clinton Standing in the rain in Iowa on the night of the primary. Yes Clinton one in the end but he finished 3rd in Iowa.
352 RGee The actual count doesn’t start till after 6pm.
I did my on poll last night at my party…the poeple who wanted ALP were to use the upstairs toilet and the LNP vote were to go downstairs. Unfortunately there was a “house’ bias later on in the night when all the LNP women refused to use the downstairs toilet. So there is no point publishing figures.
Exit polls suggest late H*ward “surge” fabricated by Murdoch press.
Excellent news RGee. If Howard has lost the Defense crowd, it’s all over.
It is isn’t it Thommo?
There were no pictures of Howard or Costello where I voted in Macquarie, just reems of negative rubbish and plooms of Kerry Bartlett signs. Some capricious official made me put my ‘your rights at work shirt’ on inside out though before I could vote…
So Sky’s exit poll wasn’t a real exit poll at all???
If they didn’t ask them how they voted you can be sure it’s because they have no idea how to tally the data up properly.
The sudden change in method by Newspoll for the very last poll was too strange to take without suspicion.
Ashley they said they will reveal the vote question later… it’s a teaser
No, Sky just hasn’t released the national voting intention figures yet
Chris B – This is from a reliable source… 🙂
[… have no idea how to tally the data up properly.]
Or should I say, construct a proper sample. So they weren’t game to use their info to actually call the result.
Can anyone confirm that they are not actually giving a result??
Here’s a tribute to Thommo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhMbVuXH0JI
Yeah, Sky will release their exit poll voting figures around 11pm tonight….
Are you guys telling me that after all this refreshing I’m not going to get a voting exit poll!!!?????
Ah, OK. They’d better watch it or 7 and 9 will get in first!
Howards end said:
The problem with the weighted mean approach is that it assumes that the population proportions remain constant over time and that variation between the polls is just sampling error. This may be invalid if the underlying proportions are changing over time.
Snap says: Yes, that is what it assumes. However, you’re still better off to take the weighted mean, without knowing which is best. You can decompose things into errors associated with polls and time. This means the standard error is far bigger than you’d get for the weighted mean.
That’s why I took the sd of the means from the polls above, which is about 1.4%. This is vastly bigger than can be attributable to sampling error.
The weighted mean is still the best bet, without knowing which is best, and the s.e. is clearly most affected by between polls/samples variance.
Voting intention shortly – including eden monaro and bennelong
Are we Peeved off with Sky News 99.99% Agree
Diogenes,
You will get a voting exit poll. Expect it by 5:30 AEDT.
368 RGee It maybe, but no one knows until they are actually counted. I have worked as a scrutinizer.
William states what he is doing tonight on new thread…..
Looking at Sky’s exit poll discussion, looks like Neilsen was about rght. They haven’t got the the actual exit poll results yet, but of the 5 top issues identified by voters as impacting on their votes, 4 are owned by Labor. Those 5, in descending order of importance are: Hospitals, The Economy, IR Laws, The Environment and Education.
Agreed. It’s a landslide.
GHow much fun is doing th HTV?
I was at a booth in Seven Hills, a lib guy there saying “liberals for a strong economy” “liberals for jobs growth”. I thought that was really cool, so I started saying “liberals for Iraq, Liberals for Tampa, Liberals for kids overboard, liberals for interest rate lies”.
He stopped.
Have to say thoug, all in all it was pretty pleasant, just one knob this morning at my first booth. Apart from that, all pretty civilised, and I was amazed to find that some liberal voters don’t have two heads.
I passed by the AEC’s Melbourne CBD office just ninety minutes ago, where there’s a polling booth. Liberal ads plastered all over it, only a couple of Labor ads.
Makin. I volunteered handing out Labor and Greens cards.
Bob Day was there. He sounded down.
Anyone a prediction for Makin, Wakefield & Kingston?
379 – couple of beers and some nibblies I imagine….
58% think Howard has stayed in for too long and 59% don’t want Costello.
What does that tell you?
One reporter please. Facts.
BillBowe
SkyNews
http://www.news.com.au/live/popup
377 Swing Lowe- How accurate do you think it will be? I’d think that a lot of people who voted Rodent would be too ashamed to admit it in an exit poll. They’d scurry away to their lairs and hope for some cheese tonight.
I think some are calling it a bit early on flimsy evidence – not much to hang the hat on yet. Patience … patience. We don’t know much about these exit polls so far – where, sample etc.
HooHoo – All will fall easily to Labor with 5% margins.
Excellent sky results, you know when the libs don’t like what sky is telling them that they are in trouble.
Fair Dinkum, if that despicable dessicated coconut was going to win this election, there is no way the odds were going to stay as rock solid as they still are.
If enough of a swing was going back to the coalition, their odds would have shortened markedly in the betting to at least 2.75 by now from the current Sportingbet 3.25.
If I am wrong, I will walk from ever making comments on politics again.
The wording of the economy question was dubious as well. But I think – superseding all are the questions that Howard has been there too long AND I dont want costello to be PM
Hmmm.. Yeha I know… but I can’t say much more.. 🙂
Thanks Possum (and anyone else who answered).
Settle.Down.People.
They haven’t cracked a single cardboard box yet.
Poss, thanks for the Sky news web feed – I couldn’t be bothered moving to the next room where the TV is 😉
Once again, a RIDICULOUSLY WORDED economy question.
“Is Howard experienced enough to handle the economy?”
What a stupid question. Of course most people would say he is. He’s a 68-year-old who has been PM for 11 years!
The question SHOULD be: “Are Rudd and Swan too inexperienced to handle the economy?”
The markets closed at 12pm centre.
The Sky questions released so far were incredibly loaded ones and probably skewed the results significantly… Hopefully their voting intention questions weren’t as loaded…