Big thanks to Tasmanian reader Stuart who tells us that Lateline (going to air earlier in the apple isle due to daylight saving) reports a six point difference in tomorrow’s Galaxy poll, with ACNielsen showing improvement in the Coalition primary vote (from 40 per cent last time).
UPDATE: Report up at News Limited. A full table of Galaxy’s results this year:
| TWO-PARTY | PRIMARY | ||||
| ALP | LNP | ALP | LNP | ||
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Oct 19
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53 | 47 | 45 | 43 | |
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Sept 24
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56 | 44 | 46 | 40 | |
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Aug 27
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57 | 43 | 47 | 39 | |
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July 30
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54 | 46 | 44 | 41 | |
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July 2
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55 | 45 | 46 | 41 | |
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June 4
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53 | 47 | 44 | 42 | |
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May 14
|
57 | 43 | 49 | 39 | |
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April 23
|
58 | 42 | 49 | 37 | |
John of Melbourne (145)
Nothing official yet, but see post 125. I’ll be surprised if that’s not right, based on other comments made tonight on the 7.30 Report and Lateline.
At least one person in the country is showing an interest in this half day wonder John. The average voter will not care less.
And some of the Labor supporters are quickly starting to mimic 1945 Germany – “the fuhrers miracle weapons will save us”, “the fuhrer is holding back his best troops”
John of Melbourne
Mine is pure speculation John: no intent to give the impression that I have a grapevine to ACNeilsen. Don’t think I will be far off the mark though. A drop to 54-46 in the 2PP would be surprising, a lift in the primary vote is likely though.
Too bad most people pay no interest in politics and what is actually happening. If they did Labor would be 60/40.
to think we have 5 weeks of this left….
Thanks, Canberra Boy.
William, as adopted previous thread, please moderate the more idiotic sexual references. Those of us with either delicate sensibilities or expectation of a certain tone are pleased.
Scorpio, if you nip in tonight, Cheers! I am unlikely to stay on line from here.
If we’re talking 1945 I think I know who’s in the bunker here Edward.
Ah remember the good olde days of the first week of Election 2004 when the Libs had the ALP within easy competitive reach of 50/50.
Wouldn’t JWH die for those numbers now?
Cheers Darn, I’m a doubting Thomas, I think I’ll wait for the Age to update their website.
I suppose you’re right Gary Bruce.
JOhn @ 160: yeah – if they ever damn well do…..
I think what spooks the ALP supporters on here is that the Liberal TPP vote is finally showing at something close to or above the ALP primary.
Seems like a big shift to me, and i wonder if this is some kind of outlier poll or “polling overshoot”, they do happen from time to time. If ACN goes in the same direction then somethings on, but we need to wait for next weeks polls to get an idea of magnitude / rate of change.
The GG will no doubt have a field day with this, and thats going to be painful to see. Still, it would have been somehow unfair for them not to get something back in the polls after blowing $34 B of our money.
Long time till its called people. I reckon the final result after a lot of bouncing around in the polls, will be 54 – 46 to the ALP, and ALP/Greens control the Senate.
Saw a Lib ad on unions tonight which ended with some unknown dude saying “Its scary, its very scary”.
So, if its going to be that low-rent, Id say its a good idea for an ALP global warming ad. Which has the added advantage of actually being scary.
Gloves off time. And I’ll wager Team Rodent can dish it out, but not take it.
imacca – just don’t read the GG. It’s tempting, but ultimately bad for you.
ACNeilson results
ALP – 8 points ahead, don’t have spread as yet.
The only problem is the ALP fights like a bunch of schoolgirls from Summer Heights High.
54:46 then
phew
paulk #102
I just hope we can hold Bastogne until Rudd (Patton) can rally the troops and crush the Liberal assault in a pincer movement.
Crikey Whitey 145
Yes it is from a reliable source but as I am essentially unknown here you are welcome to take it at face value and with lots of salt.
Let the result speak for itself and be the verdict when it comes out later tonight.
161: It’ll update a few minutes after 12. After all you can’t have tomorrow’s news today.
ph – source/ link?
ESJ: Das blut!
54-46 from the more reliable poll. And that’s AFTER Crodent’s main tax shot in the locker; and the ALP esssentially doing no campaigning this week.
Excellent!
Who knew beating Howard was this piss easy? 😉
source?
sauce?
Soon it will be Howard alone in his bunker directing the release of imaginary policy and then waiting for them to come to his aid. Sound familiar. The Rudd army has taken the Riechstag and is moving in on the Chancellery.
My two great passions military history and politics combined. It all my dreams come at once.
Hossen27,
Rudd is Dwight Eisenhower. Patton is over-rated anyway.
Hossen27 you sure you’re not related to Mr. Beazley, I mean with all the military analogies?
There is only one interesting figure – the primary vote of Labor.
Nope. I’ll wait for What the Papers Say, Delroy. In case.
Observed recently two blue singleted, muscle bound real men, chatting together as they delicately consumed their sushi.
Perfect image, Kevin 07.
Not bad after the week we’ve had, but the concern was last time’s Neilsen was down 1, this month’s down 2. Hope there’s no trend developing here guys. Alp primary last time was down 2 from month before – wonder what this one will show?
I know I’m being paranoid, but am I being paranoid enough?
Kina,
It is called 50%.
Cheers.
We probably have not seen all that the Liberals have to “offer” in scare campaigns. Am expecting them to roll out “wall-to-wall Labor” scare ads a couple of weeks out from election day. Hope Team KR are ready for that one!
Paul k # 178
It was never smart to underestimate Patton, but I agree Eisenhower was the greater leader. Also Patton stopped the Bulge so I think it was the proper Rudd analogy. Hey, they both won, lets just hope Rudd becomes a leader of a country and is not run over by a car like Patton.
188 – not so, wouldn’t hte Lord Mayor of Brisbane be a Liberal?
Lol, I think there is a Liberal councillor in the city of Melbourne too.
190 – sometimes sarcasm doesn’t translate well with this type of communication. 🙂
John of Melbourne #179
No unfortunately not. But I wouldn’t mind being defence minister, they all see the need to test out the fighters, making sure they work I guess.
#186 – notas worrisome as having Howard in control of the senate for another three years
All the Labor governments would be democratically elected, so this would clearly be what the Australian people wanted and voted for.
Not a one party state, because if they change their minds they can vote for someone else.
If Labor’s primary is the same or higher [as was suggested] it means that the calling of the election and the Govt’s Tax Cut hasn’t affected its support base AT ALL.
With the big tax cuts it probably should be the Govt’s best week of the campaign and, it hasn’t affected Labor’s own vote. So no soft voters so far. That is the good news to take from ‘the narrowing’.
#188
It would only be that way until such time as a state Liberal opposition got their act together and got elected. After 20+ consecutive defeats in state & territory elections, the Liberals have to hit paydirt sooner or later.
Hossen27 #193 Yeah it would be fun. I’d try and get a nuclear submarine, power plant is everything.
I actually thought that one of the best things to enhance Labor’s cahnces federally was if the libs had got up in one of the state elections this year – to avoid the wall-to-wall alp slogans.
12:02 still no news.
~vaio #199 – that’s the problem with living in a democracy – people get to vote :).
54/46
http://www.theage.com.au/news/federalelection2007news/howard-closing-the-gap-on-labor-age-poll-finds/2007/10/18/1192300954552.htmlv
Wall to wall Liberal governments would be an awful thought too John. Afterall we wouldn’t want a one party state would we.
Hossen27,
I don’t want to turn this into an argument about WWII but you can’t even compare Ike and Patton. One controlled a single army in the field, the other the entire allied forces in Europe. Patton relieved one city, Ike oversaw the defeat of the entire German force along the entire front. It’s like trying to compare Custer with Grant. No comparison.
Some of these Labor States are Labor only by their lable. Vario – you have to admit that they are pretty much like the real liberal party as is Rudd’s Labor. I think the real issue of concern is that as expressed by Dr Hewson last night – that the Liberal party was already so far to the extreme right it couldn’t move any further to the right without falling of the edge of the eath.
I have voted Howard in the past – but the Liberal party we have now is no Liberal party. It is in the firm grip of the hard right and another election victory will seal its fate. ANY genuine Liberal supporter must consider voting against their party – just to save it.